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Nintendo Talks About Creating New Genre

Marc Colhoun of StrengthGamer writes, "Shigeru Miyamoto recently gave an interview to the LA times. They covered the whole Tomodachi without gay characters and so on, but the part that caught my eye was the mention of a Nintendo-genre. This is both the best and worst thing Nintendo could possibly do right now."

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AvidGamerrrr3585d ago

Beautiful. Nintendo is certainly it's own genre. Glad they are, let's keep it this way.

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Tetsujin3585d ago

"Nintendo knows that they cannot compete on that level with Sony or Microsoft, going from ‘cinematic-realism’ so they decide to opt out from the race altogether and do their own thing." (from the article)

I don't get this whole race thing; last time I checked the companies each had something they excelled in, and the media/fans who claim there's some magical race with nothing to gain from being in first place.

My respect for Nintendo did go up since in the article it also mentioned they believe Artstyle > Graphics. I can also vouch Nintendo (and Sega) games do age very well; just goes to show Nintendo knows how to make games that last (and can be played years later rather than traded in), and not cater to some imaginary fan war. When Xenoblade X comes out that's when I'll give the Wii U a chance (also buying Mario Kart with it).

miyamoto3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

Yup, a genre for young kids and grown up man-children because as Iwata said, "we haven't been targeting children enough."

http://www.dualshockers.com...

That is Nintendo's role in the industry. Targeting children. This is how they make money-from children and their parents.

@Tetsujin

If you look at all Japanese visual art forms from manga, anime, video games, they prefer traditional stylized graphics over realism due to high costs. Minimalism like in Shadow of the Colossus, Black & white like Mad World, solid primary & secondary cell shaded colors, just look at Jet Set Radio, Wind Waker, the new Zelda Wii U game.
Its their culture. Its their style.

But Japan needs to be flexible too like in Demon's Soul.

Nintendo's style does not appeal to a huge chunk of the video game market though. A problem Mr. Iwata desperately trying to solve with the Wii U.

LonDonE3584d ago

Agreed, Nintendo are trend setters! haters can just keep hating!

Rumble in our controllers, Nintendo done it first, L AND R shoulder buttons, Nintendo done it first, the legendary d-pad, yep u guessed it Nintendo done it first! mario 64 revolutionised 3d game design as did zelda ocarina of time with the z targeting mechanic!
Motion control's, touch control's, analogue sticks, the list goes on and on!

Nintendo are the games industry! even if they didn't invent the above they perfected it and made it mainstream! its why even though i own and game on all platforms i will always love Nintendo! these days gamers dont give the big N enough credit.

If they were around like most of us seasoned gamers through the 8,16,32,64 bit era they would understand!
I admit they have gotten lazy lately, i wish they would go back to the old Nintendo, but regardless i get giddy with excitement when i hear of nintendo making a new gaming genre! just as long as it aint any of that casual rubbish! LOL either wy if it it still benefits the industry!

Tetsujin3584d ago

I wouldn't say Nintendo got lazy, I'd say they went through an identity crisis and forgot who made them famous.

As far as the controller with the d-pad (which is subjective) I'd give that to Sega (although both were comfortable and good in their own right).

I do agree with the majority of what you posted though, Nintendo was "the" console in my early years until I got older. PlayStation is what provided the mature experience I wanted in gaming.

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60FramesPerSecond3585d ago

Spoiler! its Puzzle-Platformer with simulation elements

AvidGamerrrr3585d ago

Did you read the article? It has nothing to do with their next game.

60FramesPerSecond3585d ago

Its a joke. A stupid joke, but a joke nontheless

Utalkin2me3584d ago

He trolls every article that's not Xbox1. Just ignore him and let him be. Thats what i just did.

maniacmayhem3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

Nintendo's E3 proved just how important it is to focus on gameplay, design and most important fun. While the other boys where focused on flash and CG trailers, Nintendo delivered all exclusives backed by gameplay.

It's funny really, by them not competing with MS/Sony and doing their own thing they actually outclassed their competition.

Artista 3585d ago

Game-play, one should never deviate from that.

The "flash and CG trailers " are usually misconceived. The purpose of them is to depict the concept of the game. Gamers are gullible, they expect CG quality visuals in final builds then get disappointed when the actual product is released.

I think devs shouldn't bother showing anything till they've got a playable build...

LKHGFDSA3585d ago

we already had an article on this the other day.

it's not a "new" genre, Nintendo have been doing their own thing for a while.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel17d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8817d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing16d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS16d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder16d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218316d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.