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TLOU: Remastered on PS4: "Programmers Sacrifices Life To Hit 1080/60fps", 30 vs 60 FPS & New Details

Hitting 1080p/60 fps on Playstation 4 for The Last of Us: Remastered wasn't an easy task and programmers at Naughty Dog have to sacrifice their lives.

NextLevel3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

When they say life, they mean kittens.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

Eonjay3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

Nooooo! :0

badz1493586d ago

you mean puppy, right?

hkgamer3586d ago

they killed kittens.., those bastards

RedSky3585d ago

Oh for the love of god, can people ease up on the TLOU Remaster 'news'?

Yes, it's 60 FPS, yes it looks very pretty.

Naughty Dog are our new deities. Okay? Can we move on now?

The amount of fanboyism over the past few weeks for just a remaster makes circle jerks look tame.

jebabcock3585d ago

@RedSky

Hey at least these articles aren't titled: "What the x1 still does better than ps4" or "X1 has the best exclusive lineup" or some other pure flame bait title... If you aren't interested in TLOU then just stop at the title and go on... Not hard..

Personally, I have the PS3 version but the jury is still out on whether I'm going to get the remastered or not.

mikeslemonade3585d ago

^ it's good news because the remake is warranted. The game looked good on PS3 but you can tell where the game can be enhanced. Just like how GTA5 was great but the full potential of the game was hampered because of the hardware.

UltraNova3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

@RedSky

Clearly you havent been around before Titanfall's release havent you? I mean if you find TLoU's 'news' influx to be overwhelming that is...

Lets have some fun,
I will grade the amount of hype and news flow of Titanfall and TLoU based on Dragonball Z power leveling!

TLoU: 79
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Titanfall: ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see?

EDIT: Oh and yes if games had a deity it would be Naughty Dog.

RedSky3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

@jebabcock
@UltraNova

But it's the same rabid fanboyism, that's my point.

This site could use some more skepticism from its users instead of just lapping up every bit of PR thrown at them.

"Programmers Sacrifices Life To Hit 1080/60fps"

Really? People can't see this as sensationalist PR? As it is, I can't be the only one who avoids the comments because they make me cringe.

A game looks great? Awesome. When it comes out you can judge it on the promises made. A remake promises to have an ultra smooth framerate? Excellent, when the reviews come out, you can verify this is true.

Instead people get into a rabid fever over previews, then when the game comes out they're so invested in it that even if it's bad they're not willing to admit it (and no I'm not talking about TLOU or Titanfall but in general).

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Meltic3586d ago

Seriously who disagreed youre comment for Amazing game?. What a jerk. This game is Amazing !!

Stapleface3586d ago

Someone who has a different opinion. I'm just going to guess that. But me personally I look forward to trying the game for the first time. I didn't play it when it released due to not having a ps3. I hope it turns out to be as awesome as many people say it is.

Gh05t3586d ago

Yes because if you don't like what I do you are a jerk. We should all love the exact same things and live the exact same way with the same likes and dislikes. All hail the death of individualism and personal tastes.

Meltic3586d ago

but if you dont like the game why are you here and Reading this article about this game then ? just wonder

Spotie3586d ago

Yeah, because the people in this article are folks who don't like the game.

That makes a whole lotta sense...

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3586d ago

I have played a little and it was really interesting, My 1st game I get on PS4 in about a month!

XB1_PS43586d ago

@Meltic

You can like a game without thinking it's amazing, and you can read any article you want whether you like a game or not. They could also be disagreeing because it's a content-less post, with no input on what the article is actually about. "amazing game" seems like a lazy way to jump on the first post.

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Freedomland3586d ago

So the masters do the remaster.

jmac533586d ago

The masters do the remaster masterfully.

purpleblau3586d ago

indeed, but I feel like ND is making too much advertisement this time. At least too much info about this remastered game. Well, they want to boost the sale, no doubt.

supes_243585d ago

It isn't ND doing all the advertising. I havent seen copious amounts of tv ads about the game. It's journalist wanting to get info on one of the best, most awarded game of last gen being ported to current gen with updated visuals, added DLC, and 60 FPS on SP and MP. That's a huge achievement. They did such amazing work on the PS3, we can only imagine what this will play like on the PS4. I played it on PS3 and I can't wait to play it again on PS4 with the DLC for $50. Its by far the best game I've ever played and can't wait to do it again on current gen.

That's why this is getting so much attention. Most awarded game n recent memory so it's news for gamers.

slasaru013585d ago

Not only ND, but also too many news on N4G.
As if there are no other games

Braid3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

Oh for f*cks sake, why is 1080/60 fps suddenly a big deal? Such a big deal that they have been bragging about for like, news coming right and left for A WHOLE WEEK? Do I have to read an article per day about how "amazing TLOU 1080p 60 fps looks, how much of a difference will 1080p 60 fps make, how devs saying that 1080p 60fps looks glorious on TLOU are right"? And today comes this: devs sacrificed their LIVES to ACHIEVE 1080p 60 fps!

Mate, let's draw a red line here. It's not the second coming of Jesus. It's not a revolutionary achievement. And I'm a big, big fan of TLOU, and I believe it's easily the game of the last generation but HOLY CR*P did they turn the whole 1080p 60 fps thing into a marketing tool! I mean you're responsible for this to happen actually, you console gamers have been so obsessed with 1080p 60 fps that it's now something that overshadows a game that is PURELY ART. What a shame for us all as an industry.

I have been playing at 1080p for like, five years maybe on my PC. This isn't something new for me, actually it's such an old gig. Future is 4K, not 1080p 60 fps so don't act like it. This madness has to stop, seriously. I mean, sacrificing their lives to achieve this?

What's the next news will be, devs sold their kidneys to achieve 1080p/60 fps? It's a friggin' last gen game, of course it's going to hit 1080p/60 fps, otherwise it would show us that PS4 has a cr*ppy hardware. Achieve that for Uncharted 4 and then we're going to have something to talk about.

StrawberryDiesel4203586d ago

That's because it's really hard to make a console game run at 1080p with a locked 60FPS with ZERO SCREEN TEARING. Naughty Dog should be proud of themselves, name one other game developer that can make a game like this run at 1080p 60FPS with no screen tearing.....I'm waiting....

duckmysick3586d ago

If ND wants to be the best like they claim to be.. They have to take charge of it, and set benchmarks for the console industry.. If the uncharted 4's trailer graphics remain that good @1080p / 60 fps, nobody ell be able to touch them.

I personally want to know every step of progress. And they deserve a lil cockiness as well.

Braid3586d ago

Strawberry,

Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes?

Half_Minute_Hero3586d ago

If the PS3 ran this game at 720P/30fps and the PS4 is as powerful as people brag about, then it shouldn't be a big deal to run a last gen game at 1080/60, now should it?

SpinalRemains1383585d ago

We want the best the machine has to offer.

If you're upset by it, take a break from here and go play some games, brother.

No one is hurt, no one is insulting anyone. We are just happy that a first party studio is going above and beyond.

Its ok

CertifiedGamer3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I agree with Braid on this one, this is a last gen game meaning people shouldn't expect anything less, and the title of this article is ridiculous seriously sacrificing their lives, did someone die during the development of this port? Naughty Dog just did what they are paid to do like any other developer. If making a game is sacrificing lives then you could say that with just about any job. Sacrificing lives is what Soldiers do for their representing nation and die. What Naughty Dog did is invest time which is very different than sacrificing a life. They made the port to make money which in return isn't a sacrifice because they will reak from the benefits of the port. If you dudes don't know what sacrificing lives is then the system has failed you miserably and you need to pick up a dictionary and start learning and gaining knowledge.

CertifiedGamer3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

@SpinalRemains138 so going above and beyond means making a last gen game run as it's suppose to on current gen system. So from your view if they would have made last of us 720p@30fps that would have been acceptable? It apparently is because you claim that 1080p@60fps is above and beyond. You know what above and beyond means to me, when they make a game that graphically pushes the PS4 to its limits and maxing out the power of the consoles resources all while making it look good. The only people I would think would want LOU have the PS4 pushing itself to its limits is the X1 fanboys but to hear a fellow PS4 gamer say that is a shame. Sorry but Naughty Dog isn't pushing the PS4 above and beyond with LOU and I hope they don't with Uncharted 4. I hope that the PS4 can have games graphically improved for at least 3 years before reaching it's graphical peak. Maybe LOU2 will push it in 2017.

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slasaru013585d ago

Isn't there too many news about LOU?
They could have put them into one

sam_job3585d ago

yes indeed... and it will definitely raise the bar on playstation 4 as well....

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pwnsause_returns3586d ago

I wouldnt mind if they provided a FPS lock on the single player, give the player a choice in how they want to play the game. play it on 30 if you prefer the game to have a cinematic look or play it 60fps if you want to play it like a soap.

F4sterTh4nFTL3586d ago

60 fps is always better for games. Cinematic look can be achieved through post-processing, not a lower frame-rate.

tuglu_pati3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

"cinematic look"

Dat word :/

I do agree 60fps all the way

PersonMan3586d ago

What's wrong with having the option to play it at 30fps like some people prefer.

60fps is over-rated.

Way more detail can be achieved if the frame rate is dropped to target 30fps.

pwnsause_returns3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

Let me rephrase that.... The cinematic look, aka the 24fps effect we see in movies... Goddamn man, you guys are out for blood...

Sure 60fps all the way, but some games deserve such an effect. This game was to me and to a lot of us a cinematic experience, he'll it was better than most of the movies that where in theaters last year.
so why not give it that deserving feature? I can understand that multiplayer needing 60fps..but the single player? Give an option for that at least..

KUV19773586d ago

Yes, I want the choice 60fps regular or 30fps 3D... why is 3D dead? Trine in 3D looks awesome...

Raf1k13586d ago

3D TV adoption didn't really take off the way the tech companies wanted it to so it's not really worth the extra time and resources to add 3D to a game anymore.

I_AM_ CANADIAN_19893586d ago

What do you mean almost every tv in the last year or 2 is 3d I think the real reason 3d console gaming died is not because of adoption rate of 3d it's the fact that too much graphics/performance sacrificing was being made for a feature that isn't worth it after all the downgrades. 3d gaming on consoles comes at a cost. Also 3d takes away from visual fidelity.

Flo-con3586d ago

Trine 2 in 3D actually does look awesome! I didn't expect that at all.

opoikl3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

There's also the brilliant 3D in Puppeteer! This game really makes 3D a necessary addition, I can't even imagine playing the game without having props fly at me through the screen (or in this case curtains). Amazing!

KUV19773586d ago

I understand why it didn't take of on PS3, because of ressources and all, but if they have the game at stable 60fps with all details, then 30fps 3D should be no problem at all. Of course they would have to save the cutscenes in 3D too and since they already stated that the disc will be full, that probably is a serious problem... still sad...

uth113586d ago

3D is a fad that comes back every 10-20 years, but it never lasts.

I fear the same may be true of VR, but we'll see..

KUV19773586d ago

Now is the first time though that you get decent 3D, not like it has always been before. I'm pretty sure it is here to stay now. There will be improvements as to 'no glasses required' and such, but I don't see it disappear.

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EverydayGuy3586d ago

They did push The Last of US above 60fps to lock it at 60fps.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

starchild3586d ago

Of course. That is the only way to achieve a steady and consistent 60fps.

Games that are capped at 30fps also would run at a higher framerate if they were uncapped. But of course this would result in a variable framerate with fairly wide swings, so you cap at 30fps to provide a more consistent frame delivery and controller response.

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esemce3585d ago

Comparing framerates of TV / films to Games is idiotic they are not the same!

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WeAreLegion3586d ago

Do you guys need a proofreader? I will do it for free.

JP13693586d ago

Pretty sure he writes and posts from his phone.

tuglu_pati3586d ago

Or maybe English is not his first language.

WeAreLegion3586d ago

You're right, tuglu_pati. English is not his first language. That's why I offered to be a proofreader.

JP13693586d ago

I wasn't commenting on the obvious language barrier, but on the fact that most of his articles contain numerous typos that are easy to notice, regardless of mother tongue.

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LKHGFDSA3586d ago

was it really that hard to hit 60 fps?
I would of thought with all the extra room for processing that the PS4 has over the PS3 that it wouldn't be "life sacrificing".

JP13693586d ago

Twice the resolution, twice the frames, all with better models, lighting, textures and effects on completely different hardware that was never designed to emulate the SPUs of the PS3, which TLoU relied upon heavily. So yeah, it is an achievement.

Kayant3586d ago

Also in a 1 yr and a bit given these difficulties.

GarrusVakarian3586d ago (Edited 3586d ago )

Remaking a game for PS4 that was specifically coded for the PS3's pain in the ass CELL architecture? You bet it would have been.

From my comment below-

"I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no,” creative director Neil Druckmann says. “We expected it to be Hell, and it was Hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds… that took a long time"

"“I can’t describe how difficult a task that is".

http://www.edge-online.com/...

XtraTrstrL3586d ago

They actually mentioned certain aspects being kind of easier because they use to use the CELL's 6 available SPUs to split up tasks and they were able to convert some of that to the PS4's 6 available cores of CPU for multitasking some of the same things. Though, overall, yeah, it must of been a nightmare to get everything even decently optimized, not just ported.

uth113586d ago

The article doesn't really say that, only the headline does.

The article only says that the total remaster effort sacrificed the programmers life, not 60fps specifically, and it's only a minor point in the article.

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The Last of Us Part 1 – Why The Ending is Still so Impactful

The Last of Us never dreams of insulting its audience’s intelligence. And the best example of this is, of course, is its ending.

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shinoff2183495d ago

Shit the beginning was to. I'm not sure how I would feel if I didn't have kids but having them it broke my heart to see.

ClayRules2012495d ago

Yes. The beginning and ending…how they break you, make you think , question things etc. so impactful.

And yeah, I have a son (he’ll be going to college here next year) and just feeling Joel’s pain, heartbreak, loss…it hits you differently when you have a kid (s) of your own.

PhillyDillyDee495d ago

I didnt have kids when i played it and the beginning had me sobbing. That story left an impact on me

Orchard495d ago

The story was a rollercoaster from start to finish. Probably my 1st or 2nd most favorite game on PS3 (the other being MGS4).

Aloymetal495d ago

I agree with you. MGS4 was truly special, I wasn't the biggest fan of the long cutscenes but I understand is part of Kojima. Great game nonetheless.

Snookies12495d ago

Best Metal Gear game, coming from a HUGE fan of the series. I bought a PS3 JUST for MGS4. And got the collector's edition too. Worth every bit of money.

Yes, the cutscenes can be very lengthy. But a lot of it was quite necessary to really tie things together. Previous games had some longer cutscenes as well. It's just that they were trying to wrap everything up with MGS4. So, it's understandable that they'd have to throw some info dumps into the game here and there.

Orchard495d ago

The cutscenes are long indeed, every Kojima game sets a new record there :P

But the game was awesome, the second they showed that first E3 demo, it was clear it was going to be something special.

I still remember being mind blown by the Octocamo. It was also the first third person shooter game where I felt like the controls and aiming etc all went smooth / fluid and weren't janky. Hard to explain in words, but it felt 'natural' to aim, move etc in it.

gangsta_red495d ago

I thought the game went on a little too long and it started to wear thin. It should have stopped at Winter. That would have been a great way to end that game with the sequel continuing from there (if necessary).

-Foxtrot495d ago

I loved it however the ambiguous ending was kind of ruined in the sequel

The first game had this conflicting grey area of Joel's actions, a decision to let you think it over and discuss it with people, however the sequel created a narrative that "OMG JOEL 100% DOOMED HUMANITY...HOW SELFISH" and making out Ellie wanted to die in the hospital even though 1) She didn't know she was going to die and 2) She was ready to see Joel once she got out of surgery so he could teach her how to play Guitar.

For me he did the right thing, I mean they pretty much attacked him when he was trying to save Ellie, they lied to him and said they were going to kill her without thinking any other decision out or asking Ellie herself and they pretty much were going to throw him out onto the street without any of his weapons/gear where he could have probably died. There was no guarantee a cure could be made with these guys, it was all "chance".

Crows90495d ago

Exactly. He made the first good decision and this time around the girl he took care of didn't die while escaping...which alluded to the beginning of the game. He was prepared this time.

-Foxtrot495d ago

Like I just don't know why the Fireflies (and now Jerry in Part II) didn't think about any other tests, it was literally "Yeah this bitch has gotta die". You're telling me they couldn't wait for more blood tests, think of new ways to approach it? The worlds been gone for decades, it's not going to collapse even more by waiting, the damage is done.

If they woke Ellie up and asked her but Joel also told her what they did and were going to do to him I don't think she'd really want to sacrifice her life for these guys compared how she suddenly reacts in the sequel.

Even the hospital setting in the original game was run down, dirty and literally the best they could do, that alone didn't inspire confidence they had the tools to distribute a cure let along make one. I know the sequel and remake kind of retcon it where it looked cleaner, brighter and newer but again I'm going off the original, the first time I played it. The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind, I don't think they would have been fair handing out the cure if they did get it made

TricksterArrow495d ago (Edited 495d ago )

It's a work of fiction, and more than once Bruce and Neil stated that the cure was a given, it was a sure thing and they regret not making it more clearly. If the cure wasn't a thing, the ending wouldn't ne nearly as impactful as is.

Crows90495d ago

@trickster
Except tlou2 states that it isnt a given. The ending is still impactful.

Inverno495d ago

Think the reason why she was going to die was because the guy was a vet, not a doctor

-Foxtrot495d ago

Yet suddenly was the only person who could create a cure

"We deffo need to kill her"

"Wait...WHY"

"Trust me....I'm a vet"

TricksterArrow495d ago (Edited 495d ago )

Jerry was a doctor. A lead doctor. His bio makes it clear that he attended Northern Utah Medical University. He just happened to like animals. I wonder if people really pay attention to the games they play anymore (if they played, it’s a toss with TLOU2’s critics)…

Imalwaysright495d ago

TricksterArrow

You should play the PS3 version. Once you do, you'll realize that the ending was retconned because Jerry wasn't the surgeon that was going to kill Ellie.

TricksterArrow495d ago

I played all versions. He was not a vet in any of them.

Imalwaysright495d ago

He was not in the original version of the game but the "Jerry" that Joel killed in the original clearly wasn't someone that acted professionaly or inspired confidence because he was willing to work in a dirty operating room and was wearing boots.

TricksterArrow494d ago (Edited 494d ago )

Jerry was a minor unnamed role that got expanded on the sequel and also got recast, not unlike any TV series and games before this one (such as Resident Evil, in which Claire, Leon, Carlos and Chris all look considerably different from one iteration to the other). Also, still not a vet. And also unsure what argument you are trying to make by “dirty room” and “wearing boots”. He is still a doctor that has the ability to develop a cure, it doesn’t matter what he is wearing or what tools are at his disposal, the story is what it is.

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ChubbyBlade495d ago

That’s why I didn’t like part 2. It removed all the nuance

Inverno495d ago

I think when you realize he's a vet, Joel's decision feels a bit more justified for those who played both games. Just playing, since you're in Joel's shoes, you don't really question it. Then playing the second there's a justification that doesn't take away from Joel's decision but for the player should reinforce your understanding of it.

You said it in the second comment. "The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind." That's why they just went along with killing her cause they didn't want to figure out some other way.

shinoff2183494d ago

Foxtrot

I think they just tried to show you how Joel's decision affected more then just Joel and ellie . Just showing different angles and a bigger picture. I think Joel did the right thing.

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dmonee495d ago

The story had me emotionally engaged. Gaming for 40 years it was the first time a game story messed with my emotions in the way movies do. As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok. It was the storyline that kept me going in TLOU 1 and TLOU 2.

ClayRules2012495d ago

“As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok.“

What exactly did the game do that qualifies it for just being ok? And same question for the gameplay?

dmonee495d ago

That’s a tough question because I could ramble on and on as to why. I’m speaking for myself because I usually pass on survival horror type games. So instead of getting into a debate as to why I found the gameplay to be ok. I originally commented on how the narrative had me emotionally sucked in. Especially the opening segment. So much that I purchased a game I would never have purchased if not for the story. It’s more kudos to the developer for getting people like me out of my comfort zone to play a game I wouldn’t usually play.

ClayRules2012495d ago

I know some people were upset with Joel lying to Ellie (friends of mine) that they felt it should’ve given the player an option to have Joel either

A. Lie to Ellie or B. Tell Ellie the truth. Type of situation, which just makes no sense. The game nor its story doesn’t given the player any control to have/make any choices that change the direction or outcome of ANY of these characters in this unforgiving and dark world.

I don’t blame Joel for doing what he did.

1. Ellie became the “Something” that he needed to keep fighting for, beyond just living day to day, simply being survivors.

2. Marlene gave orders to that no -name guard to kill Joel if he tried anything…you just done pissed him off all the more with those words. I wonder, if Joel had been killed and Marlene ever came across Tommy again (Joel’s brother) would she have the guts to tell him “Listen Tommy, we need to talk! About Joel…I couldn’t waste this gift. Tommy “What the hell you talking about, Marlene??” Marlene “I had Joel killed, if he” Tommy “YOU SON OF A BITCH!” Got carried away there lol. You get the idea tho. To my point, it wasn’t guaranteed that Ellie was the cure, and after all Joel did, went through, not even allowing Joel to see Ellie, just talk with her, that’s messed up.

3. Of course looking at the actions Joel took in the hospital and how that has major consequences in Part 2 for him, Ellie etc. it’s not like there wouldn’t have been a big threat later on at some point. This world is wicked, dark, unforgiving and everyone’s growing up, has their own WANTS. NEEDS. DESIRES. Solely for themselves, loved ones, or group. All while trying to survive.

Joel I think knew when he said “I Swear” that he’d done something much worse than when he actually saved Ellie from that operating room and possibly causing death to humanity (as if it would be appreciated anyways.

Yes, he lied to the one person who gave him purpose to live, purpose to have hope, purpose to be that father again (which he of course wasn’t looking for, but it just naturally happened upon him) like he was to his daughter Sarah all those years ago. And to him, maybe in that moment, lying would be worth the little bit of time, the years they’d have together creating memories, seeing Ellie grow up before his eyes etc. rather than lie to her and see a reaction in words and deeds in which she might’ve ran off losing all hope and trust in him etc. I mean, she did lose trust in him all those years later etc. but as we saw, she was willing to work with him, try to repair what Joel broke, and he knew it wouldn’t be easy, as did she. But with time she understood I think why he did what he did.

It’s just sad in the end, his lie, the time they lost with his betrayal, and than horrific death, caused Ellie to go seek revenge in a way in which Ellie changed, she kept chipping off more of herself along the journey, scary and sad thing to see, and exhausting. But powerful storytelling throughout it all.

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