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Does Nintendo Have What it Takes to Compete?

gamrReview's Ben Burnham: "It could very well develop a life as a secondary console in addition to whatever else people may own, and while this would definitely not be a great future for Nintendo's first HD effort, hitting a userbase of 20 million would still be a pretty big accomplishment for a system that's had as rough a time as the Wii U has. If this is the type of goal that Nintendo's shooting for, then after this E3 I'm more easily able to believe that it might be possible."

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1211d ago Replies(3)
Eonjay1211d ago (Edited 1211d ago )

In reference to the Wii's staggering 100m sales... the console was definitely mass market. During the last generation, all three consoles sold a total of 260m units.
If the Wii U doesn't have the same mass market appeal, does that mean we could see a market contraction this cycle?

Even if the PS4 and Xbox One both sold 100m, the Wii U would need to do 60m to support a similar sized market. This is why we want to see as many successful contenders as possible.

iamnsuperman1211d ago (Edited 1211d ago )

Your likely to see less total units pushed since mobile gaming has exploded amongst most younger and older gamers. Also the Wii sold to users who got a PS3 or 360 (the second console). So this would attribute to less total sales (adding all three together) since the consumer aren't seeing the Wii U as a second console or any other console but it is still early days for the One and PS4 (it would be a big disaster for Nintendo if the One and PS4 becomes that second console, they re cheaper than expected) .

FarEastOrient1211d ago

I agree, this market now includes the SteamBix, Android TV, Amazon Fire TV, and Apple TV. All of these devices going after entertainment dollars for the TV.

fonger081211d ago

Definitely, and it's not that the market has shrunk. Quite the opposite, even though we would never compare the likes of a PS4/Xb1 to the tablet/phone/Ouya/and now Amazon console(s) the video game market has expanded 10x fold. Competition for the mass market is extremely competitive. I think we'll see numbers closer to the GC/XBox/PS2 generation... unless this gen goes for a 7-10 year cycle.

60FramesPerSecond1211d ago

As much as i have loved nintendo in the past, i think they are out of touch with gamers. they have made games easier, less in-depth, and have released several games recently more appropriate as an expensive mobile game than what we have come to expect from nintendo. they have even claimed to be targeting mobile game ideas like pick up and play. i have lost faith in nintendo.

weekev151211d ago

See this is where I disagree with you. Its not that they are out of touch, its that they arent trying to be in touch with anyone.

This is the whole point of Nintendos philosophy, they come up with ideas then go "Does that sound fun? Yeah lets make it" whereas Sony would tend to go "Right here is our core audience what would they enjoy"

Neither philosophy is wrong, I personally prefer Nintendos approach because the devs seem to get more invested in the process and therefore when the games release they are super polished due to it being more of a labour of love than chasing down that dollar (although Im not saying that doesnt come into it)

iamnsuperman1211d ago (Edited 1211d ago )

But Nintendo's philosophy isn't working. Currently, apart from the Wii, there has been a decline from system to system of Nintendo's core fanbase or any other consumer buying their systems. If (saying if because currently it is unknown) the Wii U sales around the same or less than the Gamecube it shows Nintendo is out of touch in the home console business. Coming up will cool ideas is only good when the market sees it that way. Ultimately "chasing down the dollar" might be the best route for any console maker because it means you make stuff the market wants (which is extremely important in a market that is being flooded by cheap consoles, lots of games, services designed to replace consoles and so on. The market is becoming too overloaded to not "chase the dollar")

Edit: Although it could be said Nintendo does chase the dollar in a way by continuing to live in an ecosystem built by franchise they made many moons ago

fatneal1211d ago

@iamnsuperman heres the thing nintendo has a handheld every gen that sells atleast 60 million give or take...so they can always afford to try things with their home consoles...also the idea of their philosophy 'isnt working' might not be true at all. they profit every gen and ive read where they profitted more than sony during the ps2 era even though ps2 sold 120 million vs gamecubes 30 million...perceived as a failure or not working might not be the case at all in the long run

fatneal1211d ago

you screenname is '60framespersecond' NUFF SAID

King_of_Nothing1211d ago (Edited 1211d ago )

I think that they do, they have a devout fan base and some heavy hitting titles coming down the pipeline. It would have been nice if they stepped up to the plate sooner, but they seem to be heading in the right direction now.

fonger081211d ago

I think for Nintendo as long as they get back to profitabilty they'll probably consider the Wii U not a faliure but a miss. I'm sure they'll look at what they learned from going into the HD/online era and possibly try and reinvent themselves. Unless there's a complete change in philosophy, Nintendo will never go into the heavy tech/power house console level. I'm sure whatever they'll end up doing is different, will benefite them greatly from a 1st party perspective... and EA will complain regardless.

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