Submitted by NextLevel 431d ago | rumor

Crytek's Ryse 2 canned as financial struggle spreads to Shanghai

Eurogamer's own sources confirmed this today. One person close to Crytek told us a pre-production deal for Ryse 2 was on the cards, and that Microsoft wanted to do the deal, but its terms proved a sticking point. (Crytek, Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One)

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mhunterjr  +   431d ago
Shame... The first game was rough, but would have made a solid foundation to a series...
NextLeveI   431d ago | Spam
Magicite  +   431d ago | Funny
Crytek is about to cry.
abzdiine  +   431d ago
how can they think of Ryse 2 given that the game has been both a commercial and critical failure?
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sinjonezp  +   431d ago
Lol good use of one bubble. Its sad though. I believe crytek had a very good engine and thought they could have been so much more. Wonder what was to blame for failures? We always said there games were tech demos but I honestly thought the crysis series was solid and that ryse was compelling. The companys foundation was in graphics and not game play. I think they should have brought in quality devs to create game play that gamers would say, take my money. Maybe ryse should have been multi plat? Maybe more free to play? Mobile versions of cry engine..idk but its sad to see the troubles with crytek.
ShinMaster  +   431d ago
It's probably gonna be a while until PC fans get another game like Crysis 1 to brag about.

Was Ryse the final nail in the coffin or something? Since they said that Ryse development was "catastrophic".
Ashunderfire86  +   431d ago
CryEngine = Crying Crytek

Sucks how this is happening, to this company. They have some Rare developers too. They should of make Timesplitters long ago man. Heck they wouldn't even have these problems, if that game turn out to be number 1.
Mr Pumblechook  +   431d ago
When a company isn't paying their staff's wages it is only a matter of time before they go under.

I suspect when the receivers are called in they will start selling off the IP for cheap and Microsoft will snap it up.
pixelsword  +   431d ago

...no wages does equals company that's about to go under; The same thing happened at Factor 5 a little after Lair was released, some or all of the dev team sued the company, if I'm not mistaken
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Axecution  +   431d ago
guess you could say they're having a bit of a crysis right now
UltraNova  +   431d ago
After their fallout I seriously expect MS charging guns blazing for a full hostile take over. It makes sense business-wise and they get to keep Ryse and everything else exclusive.
Azzanation  +   431d ago

Sad that you think Ryse was a failure and shouldn't consider a sequal. Sony are turning Knack into a franchise and that did even worse on reviews.
harrisk954  +   431d ago

Not funny... a lot of people are going to be losing their jobs.
DevilOgreFish  +   431d ago
Microsoft will probably fund the sequel, if a sequel is possible. story pretty much seemed finished with the first game.
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bigbic  +   431d ago
I don't think Crytek should risk it, they wont have fans If they keep up they way they are going. They need to get back to Crysis 1 and Farcry 1 type games that people grew to love them for.
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styferion  +   431d ago
do you not read the articles?

Microsoft already proposed to fund the sequel's development, but because one of the terms requiring Crytek to give the Ryse IP to MS the deal was cancelled.
IVIEDICATED  +   431d ago
Ryse 2 for PS4 confirmed. But seriously IF this is legit and MS doesn't want it unless they can extort Crytek for the rights to the IP we can surmise Ryse 2 is now a possibility on the PS4. Never change MS lol
Blaze929  +   431d ago
ha, "extort"

it's business. Why would i fund the entire development of a game, help build the brand and popularity, just for you to put it on competition systems later? Especially when the first didn't sell that great?

It's a situation of "give us the game, or it doesn't come out at all." because who else is going to help them publish it? Sony? After "the first one was crap"? LOL

If Crytec were smart, they would've let MS get the IP and just take the money to make it.

Not like they are exactly sitting on a "golden" IP. Now it's just dead.
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pixelsword  +   431d ago
@ blaze:

I agree that it is business, but considering that Microsoft isn't exactly overflowing with development companies, Microsoft shouldn't burn any more bridges than necessary because all it takes is a handshake to make Ryse multiplatform.

That is business as well.
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Blaze929  +   431d ago
lol pretty interesting turn out.

I'm sure Microsoft knows Crytec's financial situation and probably thought, "why pay them to make the game and let them hold the IP when we can buy the entire studio AND CryEngine?"

Microsoft doesn't 'need' Crytec as much as Crytec needs Microsoft, or any publisher for that matter.
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AceBlazer13  +   431d ago
None of these publishers need Microsoft, if they all decided to drop support for Microsoft look at how fast the XB1 falls off the map.
assdan  +   431d ago
I hope crytek doesn't go down. If nothing else, they were great programmers.
pixelsword  +   431d ago
Aye laddie.

Sorry, I watched The Hobbit 1 & 2 a jillion times by now so it feels right when I type it. :P
showtimefolks  +   431d ago
its sad that crytek has so much potential yet all they push are graphics. They leave out gameplay and story and just chase graphics

ryse was more of a teach demo to show the power of xbox one and crytek's new engine. I really hope crytek can get back to be stable but their future right now doesn't look good
VealParmHero  +   431d ago
Crazy, this game deff had potential. I agree that there was deff a base here. They just would have needed to nail the sequel, and market it well
Edsword  +   430d ago
This kind of reminds me of Factor 5 after Lair. However Crytek is a bigger dev and I don't think they'll actually have to shut down.
NextLevel  +   431d ago | Well said
"Apparently, in exchange for funding Ryse 2's development, Microsoft wanted to take over the Ryse intellectual property, something Crytek couldn't agree to, so both parties decided not to continue."

Sound like the wanted in on PS4 and/or PC aswell.
Eonjay  +   431d ago
It makes sense from both parties perspectives. It Microsoft is funding, they want exclusives. If Crytek release on multiple platforms, they can increase profits. It a battle of conflicting interests
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NextLevel  +   431d ago
Agreed. For a bunch of reasons, I can see why Microsoft wouldn't want that.
NextLeveI   431d ago | Spam
MasterCornholio  +   431d ago
One Next Level Account with 5 bubbles and another with 6 bubbles.

There was another Next Level account before with 3 bubbles.

WTF is going on?

Did N4G get hacked or something?
torchic  +   431d ago
there's a NextLevel account with a small case letter "L" at the end of "Level", there's another with a capital letter "I" at the end of "Level", haven't seen the 3rd one.

it's like XiSausukeUchihaXi and all his multiple Xi accounts...
Lincoln_6_Echo   431d ago | Spam
IVIEDICATED  +   431d ago
Given Crytek's financial situation NO it doesn't make ANY sense staying exclusive when they need their games on multiple consoles to stay afloat. In fact I'd wager that Ryse being exclusive to the X1 actually cost them money and contributing to their money woes. Remember deals like Titanfall and Ryse were signed sealed and delivered BEFORE the PS4/X1 were out and most publishers hedged their bets that the X1 was going to be the market leader but nobody told Sony that and here we are obviously being exclusive on the losing machine isn't the best position to be in. Being multi plat or exclusive to the market leader would be and Crytek with Ryse & EA with Titanfall both lost money being console exclusive on the Xbox one and it looks like at least in Crytek's case they won't make that mistake a second time around this gen.
Prime157  +   431d ago
No, it sounds like they wanted to keep the intellectual rights... something that is huge in business. Characters, title, anything.... which COULD mean they wanted to bring it to other platforms, but, OBJECTIVELY, does not directly infer that they would.

I feel sorry for third party studios that give up rights for a paycheck... often the original vision for the game is lost.
mhunterjr  +   431d ago
It doesn't sound like they wanted it on PS4, the deal revolved around MS being the publisher. Why would MS finance a game that will end up on PS? No company would even think of bringing such an idea to the bargaining table.

It sounds like they just wanted to retain ownership of their IP, like Insomniac has with sunset overdrive, or Respawn with Titan Fall. They just wanted MS to handle the distribution.

What I don't understand is why Cryteck wouldn't sell the IP... If the only thing keeping my company afloat was a deal around mildly-received IP, I'd take the deal. It makes no sense that they would sell far cry, but not Ryse.
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rdgneoz3  +   431d ago | Well said
"No company would even think of bringing such an idea to the bargaining table."

Joe Danger was part of the Sony Pub Fund, and they gave their blessings for Joe Danger going to the 360. They didn't have to, but they cared about their business partner.

q8kik  +   431d ago
but didn't they help funding respawn for titanfall ? and the game ended up going to pc
mhunterjr  +   431d ago
Microsoft profits from and publishes PC games. That's not the same as them publishing a game that is going to end up on a Sony platform.

That is an interesting example, but when discussing financials, i don't think it's fair to compare An expensive AAA title like Ryse to a downloadable title like Joe Danger. Your point is well taken, but in this scenario, a similar decision would make no sense. For example, you'd never see Sony allowing Resistance to end up on xbox.
Lincoln_6_Echo   431d ago | Spam
HacSawJimThugin  +   431d ago
Agreed. Why not sell it to MSFT so that your employees can pay their bills and feed their families. For that fact alone crash and burn.
IVIEDICATED  +   431d ago
You are FUKIN hilarious. I'm glad you brought this up because see Titanfall? That's EXACTLY what they've done. Help fund the game and now all the sudden Titanfall 2 WILL be on the PS4. Maybe they didn't want to be burned again but don't go saying "no company would EVER do this" because it's happened already a MS funded/Co funded/moneyhat IP coming to PS4 with Titanfall 2 gotta love the irony here.
Dark_king  +   431d ago
@mhunterjr MS doesn't profit from all pc games only those they release there self are go through MS to distribute.EA Origin's doesn't pay MS to release games.
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mhunterjr  +   431d ago
Nice try, but titanfall is not published by MS. It's published by EA. Ryse was funded and published by Microsoft, and the deal on the table would have been another publishing deal.

MSprofits from the PC gaming business as a whole, since the games drive PC sales. also, If Ryse was going to be published my MS, it's pretty likely that they would be the publishers of the PC version, especially of they were funding the games development.
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Legendary-Status  +   431d ago
ASSASINS CREED WAS ONCE A PS3 Exclusive lol it's like the table have turned this gen..they rather kill it off...then make it go multi_plat to the PS4 like titan fall 2
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maniacmayhem  +   431d ago
Absolutely no where was that even hinted.
Kosmacz  +   431d ago
That's why exclusive contracts are destructible for everyone - a game studio, publishers and gamers. In healthy business Crytek would need to deliver high quality product and gamers would vote with wallets. This is just all twisted.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   431d ago
@Next Yeah, yeah we know you want Xbox to crash and burn. You have nothing else important in life than to drag down Xbox every possible way.

You should try a new hobby.
GUTZnPAPERCUTZ  +   431d ago
The gameplay in RYSE was ok, but the Story... Was really really good I thought, Hopefully we see a sequel appear one day, on multiple platforms.
Trekster_Gamer  +   431d ago
Agreed, the story and voiceover was awesome.

I really hope that one day there will be a sequel.
Drasill  +   431d ago
That quote doesn't imply that whatsoever. Why would Microsoft fund and publish a PS4 game? Dumbass.
ramiuk1  +   431d ago
MS knew they was in throuble and tried to abuse that position it sounds like to me
F4sterTh4nFTL  +   431d ago
The situation is even worse than I thought. They are definitely really badly screwed.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   431d ago
I think MS should acquire them.

MS almost acquired them along time ago until a little game called Halo released in which MS didn't feel the need to buy them afterwards.

If I remember correctly Crytek was interested in being acquired by MS so they can develop a syfy game. But MS wasn't interested because they got Halo and it was a success plus they didn't want another similar games from them.

EDIT: Clarification here.


I think its about time MS snatches them up now.
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BlackTar187  +   431d ago
They make such Average games. Seriously they have yet to make a complete package for a game and they keep trying but the same results.

The games aren't bad but they have nothing the shines outside of graphics and i think xbox fans can agree that Graphics are the least important part of a game rite?
bigbic  +   431d ago
No offense to Microsoft but that would be a horrible idea. Microsoft hasn't had a very good reputation for keeping a studio good after acquiring them, Like RARE. For Gamers sake we need Crytek to stand on their own and go back to making games that made them great in the first place, fun open world, stealthy games. not Ryse 1,2,3,4 that Microsoft wants...
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   431d ago
@Big "No offense to Microsoft but that would be a horrible idea. Microsoft hasn't had a very good reputation for keeping a studio good after acquiring them, Like RARE."

Yeah I agree. But Spencer is in charge he'll treat them right.

Rare's not forced to make kiddy Kinect shovelware anymore thanks to Phil they have some projects in the works right now.

The old MS would continue the Rare Kinect brigade. But Phil giving them freedom to make whatever they want now.

"For Gamers sake we need Crytek to stand on their own and go back to making games that made them great in the first place, fun open world, stealthy games. not Ryse 1,2,3,4 that Microsoft wants..."

Only if Crytek wanted to. Remember this is the new MS not the old MS that we loathed. Phil's open to new Ip's and ideas.

That's the only logical thing I can think of.
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BitbyDeath  +   431d ago
I think everyone should just wait for them to die then pick the bones clean. They won't be missed. MS can then take Ryse and Sony or someone can grab Timesplitters.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   431d ago
@Tar I don't see it being a bad thing MS and Crytek were like an on and off again couple.

Besides MS needs to the first party talent right? Why not have Crisis and Ryse as permanent exclusives as well as new Ips and such?

"The games aren't bad but they have nothing the shines outside of graphics and i think xbox fans can agree that Graphics are the least important part of a game rite?"

For me its all about balance.


Remedy's Quantum Break graphically looks great. The presentation is phenomenal. But its an action game at heart. So you know the gameplay will be fluid and nice like the Max Pain. Along with fantastic graphics.

for me its balance, personally. Other than that I don't speak for other Xbox fans obviously you gotta ask them.

Btw nice salty disagrees on my first post its only facts I'm posting that's it.

Not at you @Tar but in general.
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XiSasukeUchiha  +   431d ago
Crytek is screwed!
I'm sorry, Zabuza-Sama, I have failed you.

Haku (白)
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snookiegamer  +   431d ago
@XiSasukeUchiha & XiYakushijuAkeginuXi

LMAO. You two are freekin' crazy!!! ...But I love it!

I think people take you guys too seriously. Sometimes N4G would be a snoozefest without characters like you...totally super awesome :)
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StifflerK  +   431d ago
That's a shame - I really enjoyed Ryse and would have liked a sequel.

I really hope Crytek get their finances sorted out , it'd be a shame to see any more talented companies go under - especially after all those that closed down during last-gen.
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2pacalypsenow  +   431d ago
Maybe if they didnt release tech demos as games they would be ok right now
truefan1  +   431d ago | Well said
To Xb1 fans who actually played it, most would agree it's a really solid game, not GREAT, but good. I enjoyed the story and game play for what it was. I think a sequel could have built on a solid foundation. Hopefully they can work out a deal with MSFT to get Ryse 2 developed.
Eonjay  +   431d ago
Would you still be interested in it if it became multiplatform?
OpieWinston  +   431d ago
Yes I would've, Ryse was pretty solid Hack & Slash game...It got smashed for having "Repetitive combat" when it had the same fighting system as MOST Hack & Slash games... So in reviewers eyes they walked in with a negative opinion and came out with the same opinion.

I personally would love if it remained on one platform because it lets them focus on building a stronger experience.
ThanatosDMC  +   431d ago
Most hack and slash games? Like what?
user7402931  +   431d ago
it was unplayable
xboxftw  +   431d ago | Funny
On PS4.
Artista  +   431d ago
ocelot07  +   431d ago
And on 360 apparently.
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Christopher  +   431d ago

Even taking away all the troll reviews (both negative and positive trolls) you're going to end up with a game with a score more in line with the game journo review scores. I'm not sure people would say a 6/10 is truly something to brag about or consider as a "solid" or "good" game overall.
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texag2011  +   431d ago
I think I'll still sleep ok knowing there won't be a sequel. I played it. It was just meh...
Sp1tfireXM  +   431d ago
I'd be suprised if Microsoft didn't swoop in and buy Crytek
KontryBoy706  +   431d ago
then you wouldn't see a game out of them for years like they did Rare Studios
barb_wire  +   431d ago
Not good business sense when you think about it.. This situation is just like THQ, why buy them when you can just wait it out for them to go out of business and then buy the IP's you want at auction.

Been reading more of the Crytek situation and it seems it's a lot worse than I even thought.. Unless they do something, they will be out of business before the end of the year.

If I was in charge of Crytek, I'd try to sell (and if that doesn't work) close ALL the other Crytek studios down (UK, Shanghai etc). They could try and sell the 'Crysis' IP rght now to EA for some immediate injection of capital but it won't be enough, at least not in the long run.
Clover904  +   431d ago
Though the game only received mediocre reviews, Ryse had a lot of potential. It's unfortunate that Ryse 2 won't happen.
TheWatercooler   431d ago | Trolling | show
Rainbowcookie  +   431d ago
I always thought that Crytek where great when it came to engines/graphics, but their games kinda lacked that extra character that some other companies have, so i'm not really a fan, but to be honest this is bad news for the developers and families involved. Whatever the reason may be , I pray that the people involved find a new place of work soon.
spartanlemur  +   431d ago
I can see EA buying them out if they don't make it through this alone.

Having said that...Oculus have a LOT of Facebook cash floating around right now and I'm sure they're keen to grab developers skilled at crafting ultra-realistic graphics. Obtaining the CryEngine and thus making the next iteration heavily VR-centric might be another notch in their belt.
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HappyWithOneBubble  +   431d ago
This why you don't do deals with MS. Never lay in bed with them.

Edit: Well how much did MS fund because they sure didn't fund enough if Crytek having these problems. And you don't know what went on between Sony and Insomniac about Sunset Overdrive so shut up.
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True_Samurai  +   431d ago
Because they wanted the rights to an IP they're funding again? Get real and take off your fanboy goggles. Did you say the same when insomaniac said sod wasn't a PS exclusive BC Sony wanted the rights to it?

↓↓ wait are you blaming Ms for Crytek's situation? Ms funded Ryse and Paid Crytek. All Crytek had to do was make the game and receive their share from the sales. In no way could Ryse have affected them.

And for insomaniac it's a new IP. Ms isn't gonna right off the bat want to get the IP from them unless it has potential. That's why ms decided to fund them also to see how it turns out. And if it sells over a million I can ms wanting yo make another contract deal with them allowing to keep the IP but it can only be made for xbox
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barb_wire  +   431d ago
Which looking at it, looking at this situation is all the more strange.. MS wants the Ryse IP, Crytek says no, sequel canned.. Insomniac gets to keep IP for SO - why one and not the other? Apart from Fuse, Insomniac is a total unknown on the XBOX brand, whereas Crytek were familiar with it, releasing numerous games on it.

All I can say for Insomniac is that, their game had better sell gangbuster numbers, otherwise I can see them being in this situation in the near future.. and no matter which console you favor, would be very bad to all of us gamers.
Christopher  +   431d ago
Regardless of how much MS funded or not, it was Crytek that made the deal and agreed with it. Any issues in remaining profitable as a company is totally on their end, not Microsoft's.
Knushwood Butt  +   431d ago
That's a creepy avatar.
True_Samurai  +   431d ago
That's too bad I can see why ms wants the right to it. I would feel the same after funding the first game. It's like the insomaniac and Sony situation. Sony wanted the rights to their IP (ex. Ratchet & clank, resistance) they would want to keep the franchise
Christopher  +   431d ago
Not really the same at all. Insomniac wanted to make their own game whereas Sony wanted them to keep working on the IPs that Sony owned. Insomniac made a good amount of profit on the Sony IPs to make their own IP and Sony is still working with Insomniac to make their IPs.

In fact, what's stupid about Insomniac is that they signed an exclusivity deal instead of doing what they wanted, which was putting a game out on multiple platforms to reach a much wider audience. But, maybe their plan is to put the sequel out on more platforms or something or have a timed exclusive deal on the first? I'm not sure, but this is not what they originally wanted, that being making another console exclusive title.
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aragon  +   431d ago
how can u say that when there has been so many articles from the people that work at insomniac saying that sunset isnt on ps4 because sony wanted the ip and they didnt agree to that but ms said ok keep the ip and they were fine with that, there has literally been tons of articles about it
maniacmayhem  +   431d ago
I doubt MS would want to buy this company and take on their financial burden. Even though if they bought them they would have access to the cry-engine that they could lend out to all their 1st party studios.

But it would probably be cheaper to buy the Ryse IP which did not happen.
jmac53  +   431d ago
Crytek has been hit or miss with their games. Here's hoping Homefront Revolution turnabout alright.
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Goku781  +   431d ago
Thank goodness, last thing Xbox One needs is another Ryse.
The_devils_chum  +   431d ago
I agree with some of the comments above, crytek probably wanted to go pc and ps4.
If you think about it theres really no incentive for crytek to make ryse 2 for xb1. Maybe if there lucky theyll sell 1.5 million. Crytek was put in a bad spot cause ms rushed the consoles launch and no doubt rushed cryteks production of ryse robbing ryse of all it could have been. What crytek needs to do now is do what all the other companies are doing and reusing assets. Port over crysis 1,2,3 along with the map editor and add bots if it doesnt already, i would pay 60 even a 100 especially if the game was at least 900p with that kick ass editor. Crytek is in ruin because of them and ms.
HappyWithOneBubble  +   431d ago
That's a good point. If Crytek is able to stay alive which I hope, they won't be making any more XB1 exclusives for sure. If I was them sell Ryse to MS and move on or continue with Ryse 2 and put it on all platforms.
mrpsychoticstalker  +   431d ago
Microsoft is going to buy it along with capcom. They will announce soon.
Christopher  +   431d ago
bigbic  +   431d ago
You don't want that, trust me. I know Microsoft is your favorite console maker, but that would be bad for gamers in general... I wish RARE was owned by Nintendo. And I hope Capcom and Crytek can build themselves back up.
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pyramidshead  +   431d ago
Let him dream I guess!
wenaldy  +   431d ago

I ain't even mad
Lionalliance  +   431d ago
Crytek is in a Crysis...
Clogmaster  +   431d ago
They are a Far Cry away from good times..
kohlgamer  +   431d ago
Hopefully they can ryse from the ashes to create more games
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KontryBoy706  +   431d ago
shoulda made it multiplat and not treat it like a tech demo like pretty much all of your games Crytek. Ah well...
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BlackTar187  +   431d ago
Tech Demos is all they make.

Lucky they are very pretty otherwise they would have very few redeemable qualities
ghostface9  +   431d ago
Microsoft needs to buy crytek one to support pc gamers like they have been proimising but also so they can have more first party stuidios they would get like 5 from buying them and access to the cryengine to make some beatiful games they can use as a template for all their first party games
LightningMokey  +   431d ago
NextLevel imposter has a caital i (I) instead of a lower case l. It looks the same from a user stand point but its not. Happened to me on another forum before.
D-riders  +   431d ago
Only reason this game tanked was because they bet on Ms.this game needs to be on ps4. I find was crate I'd take 20 mill to ms buy the rights back and put it on ps4
papashango  +   431d ago
? the game tanked because it was just a QTE snore fest. It has nothing to do with what console it was on.
Chapter11  +   431d ago
Holy crap, everything has to be a mega-franchise these days. Five years from now there won't be a single new IP.
Christopher  +   431d ago
People were saying the same thing at the start of last gen. We're still getting a ton of new IPs. Don't worry, that won't happen. At least not for a long while.
iceman06  +   431d ago
IMO, this is why people more and more will start to embrace indie devs. They might be small now, but one hit and they could be your next AAA developers with the new IP. Unfortunately, the status quo seems to still sell. So, many of the AAA publishers aren't willing to take chances on new IP that don't fit the mold of what's currently out there.
corvusmd  +   431d ago
Sounds like more "insider" info with no really backing as of now. If it becomes true, I'll wait till someone legit confirms it to believe it. Right now everyone is just referring to a "rumor report" from Kotaku. If one source was enough to believe something like this, then Last Guardian is canned because IGN said so.
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Gore-Content  +   431d ago
Serves them right. After all, these are the people who said, "We're embracing 30fps"!!!!
cyclindk  +   431d ago
What happens in Shanghai, stays in Shanghai... except in this case.
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