The long-awaited consoles are finally here, but are they as powerful as gamers hoped? Or have these new systems proven unable to wow the public?
Honestly not really because I was expecting 1080p 60fps on all games
Maybe not with the XBone but PS4 is certainly the most powerful console, games like Killzon, inFAMOUS, DriveClub, the Order, Uncharted 4 prove it Also a big selling point for the PS4 that MS can't beat is that all 3rd party games are better on the PS4, and they can all be even better if they didn't get held back by the XBox "pairaty clause"
I will put it as easy as this: Uncharted 4 A Thief's End (1080p/60fps) it met my expectations and im sure when its out + Quantic Dream + Sony Santa Monica my expectations will be a history! A man called Jack Tretton ones said: the best is yet to come.
I think the PS4 is adequate. The XBO isn't quite there, but it would still be a solid choice if the PS4 didn't exist. The Wii U is obviously a bit of a letdown, from the 3rd party perspective, but Nintendo is doing some great things with the hardware. But for the price you can't be the PS4. It's basically a R9 270-. Which means GPU wise the only better options are the R9 270 and 270x (which wouldn't be huge improvements), the R9 280 and 280x (which would be a decent bump up) and the R9 290 and 290x (which would give you 1080p @ 60fps on everything with optimizations). However, the R9 270 alone is $180 ($150 w. rebate), and the 290x is $400+ and only runs cool with the tri-fan models which are $500+. So for the money the PS4 is a great deal.
i expected PS4 to be very powerful but i realise that i have been underestimating so much after the last Uncharted trailer. b...but Ryse?
Fact is games are getting more demanding. It's not like all the games are still using the same engine as old gen. I'm sure Devs can achieve 1080p / 60 FPS if all they did was up the resolution and use the same old engine. But fact is Devs rather push the console by using new game engines such as Cry Engine 3, Frostbite 3, Ignite, Fox Engine, Unreal Engine 4, ETC... Shoot I got a pretty decent PC and I'm starting to notice a rise in demand for 1080p/60 FPS @ High/Ultra on newer titles. I got a GTX 770 FYI. The consoles are what they are, and as time goes by they will be highly optimized. It's said they are about 10x stronger than previous gen. Sure some games aren't 60 FPS and 1080p. But as time goes by we will probably hit some of that. Here are some notable games aiming for that 60 FPS / 1080P : BF Hardline, AC Unity, Evolve, Batman AK, MGS V PP, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4 and GTA V. That said I do believe some of the games won't meet the target, but I'm still hopeful. All I'm trying to say is don't get caught up in these numbers, games can look and run great even if it's not 60 FPS/1080p. But I do understand that it would be sweet to hit that target, especially the 60 FPS. Lower resolution doesn't matter that much IMHO. The Frame Rate is what's really important. Steady 30 or 60 is what matters.
@Lincoln_6_Echo No secret that developers get held back by the lowest common dominator The higher resolution/frame rate on PS4 games happen without developers even trying, if they did take advantage of PS4 hardware the difference will be even bigger, things like textures, lighting AA and other post processing effects can be much better if developers are allowed to take advantage.
Isn't this like the first time affordable PC's are more powerful from the start?
PS4 is not as powerful as I expected either, just a little better than X1. I was expecting both to be around $500-$600 and have 8gb GDDR3 or 5 for JUST Gaming, A 1.5ghz minimum GPU, 2ghz or faster CPU and a 500gb SSD. It could have been done and both systems would be running every game at 1080p 60fps and fast loading times. I did not ask for a gaming computer (16gb DDR3, 4gb VRAM, AMD 7990 Crossfire, Intel i7 Overclocked, etc.) but they both were underwelming when specs were announced :/ The bright side is in 5 years, the games will be beautiful as devs max these badboys out!
These fanboys are too funny. He also said 1080p @60fps not just gfx none of those games are. How do y'all PS fanboys get all these bubz showing how messed up this site is. And how xbone is holding back ps4 when ps4 have better settings and res or frame rate.
Playing games like Killzone Shadow Fall, Tomb Raider Definitive Edition and Infamous Second Son on my PS4 I would have to say that the graphical output has easily met my expectations. Those games are amazing looking, especially for being launch games. I personally think some people have unrealistic expectations. 1080p and 60fps in addition to a massive leap in graphics was never going to happen.
Does that mean Nintendo fans must be quiet then?
@starchild Uncharted 4
The way I see it. The Xbox One should have been at the same level as the PS4 is right now and do 1080p all the time. The PS4 on the other hand should have been 2 times stronger than what it is and easily do constant 1080p 60fps. But hey, both consoles are strong enough for most consumers that own 1080p HD TVs. HD TVs took a long while before they even were "main-stream". It took at least 5 years just to get it mainstream and another 10 years to be widely adopted. PC technology and pricing being what they are today; these are the consoles we've got.
NewMonday in reply to your Quality over Quantity reply from another article I have PS4 PSN WilDRangeRfc and Xbox One XLive WilD RangeR RFC so I get more quality and quantity than you PEACE
Both MS and Sony short-changed us this gen, especially MS who charged more for less. Ok lets hypothesize a little... How hard is to make an announcement saying "ok we have the specs and prices for 2 variations for each ps5/xbox4. One is mid range level at $400 and the other is High-end at $600(based on 2020 standards). Now if we manage to get say 3 million non-refundable pre-orders on the high end machine we will release it. Alternatively we will go with the cost effective option." See?Just a quick idea... Easy! leave the option to the consumer and avoid all this backlash.
It's too soon to debate debate power.
Yes if you play on Pc simple;)
not really cause exclusive wise i cant judge vs pc mutliplats are the only place to draw that conclusion
PC is not a next gen console. And depending on the PC, it could be better, worse or just as good as a console, since they're not all built equally.
ya agreed... I honestly thought that discussions about 1080p and 60fps would not even a consideration at this point. Yet here we are, and almost every game there seems to be some talk about how it's still not hitting those numbers. Ok I get that by targgeting 30fps over 60fps, they are able to do a lot more....but I thought the whole point to these machines was that devs could do whatever "more" it was they had in mind and still do magic numbers and even have some juice left over. I mean that was the way it sounded at the time. I also get that "it takes time to learn the new machines etc" but again, wasn't that the whole point to making them so PC like in architecture ? Just my layman observations as a gamer based on the way these machines were hyped.
This is the problem with today's community. You only get 60fps on PC because you either have the expensive cards pushing all the fx, or you have a mid range card and drop some of the effects, while keeping 60fps.etc, also rez/aa/ are factors. If a Dev wants to Get 60fps on a Console game, it's the same thing. Either Drop some fx, or drop rez. So Basically every game could be 1080p 60fps. If you don't understand this, you have no reason being here.
I get over 150 FPS on my PC ultra settings on most games. But thanks for saying something you know nothing about.And I dont hav a $700 Gfx card.
@pennywhyz Even with my 780 Ti card I STILL suffer some fps drops or need to play in lower settings or rez to achieve a solid frame rate on some of my demanding PC games. 150 FPS with ultra settings on MOST of your games and you don't have a $700 Gfx card? You are either playing your game in the lowest rez possible OR "most" of your games are indie 8-bit games. In short,you are trolling or lying.
That is why many are disappointed with these consoles. They can't at least do what the *current* and soon to be outdated PCs can do. I know it is about cost. If they were made more powerful everyone would moan about price. Now they are cheap but weak everyone complains about low res and/or low FPS. Personally I would have paid an extra $200 to have a better console. If it means it will be relevant longer it is worth it to not have to upgrade again so soon.
I thought that the graphics will almost be very similar to PC for at least first 2 years, but it wasn't. Watch Dogs PS4 vs PC was very different to the point the it had to be downgrade badly on the console
Not quite sure the PS4 was the reason for the downgrade. XBOXONE has alot less power. Has cheaper shadows. Also Watchdogs had major problems with alot of PC'S stuttering, glitching. slowdown. I have it on PC. It's a decent game. But Infamous ss looks better.
I have Watch Dogs on PC and Infamous Second Son for my PS4 and they each do some things better than the other. There is no clear winner between those two games. How can you say this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media... looks better than this: http://doope.jp/media/14q2/... ? They both excel in different areas.
@starchild That is a bad pic of I:SS but a good one of modded WD on PC. Kind of unfair, PC will always be better. I have both too on PS4 but the low res of WD is bad. Then I:SS has much better particle and light source effects. Try this for Infamous: http://i.imgur.com/AzDVrD5.... No cheatin'!
Yes, for a console really getting started in 2014 there should have been the raw-power of pulling out 1080p and solid fps. And the visuals should be great at that resolution too. Things like quality anti aliasing should be standard in most games. But I think we are on a pretty good way. The PS4 has great games and they will improve even more. Same goes for Xbox One. It will get better. But will it last on the long run when games getting more visually stunning or complicated? Well, I don't know but exclusive-game on each console will make the difference.
At the point that the consoles released my PC was probably ~6x more powerful. Certainly the GPUs are that much better. MS and Sony both shot for a low price point rather than packing in power. It is obviously the right decision in business terms, but I would have been more than happy to throw down £500 for better hardware, which would be more in line with previous generations... Still, they are what they are. A huge step up from the 360/PS3, and devs will make the best of them to give us some outstanding games.
I agree with you. Ps4 for its time is a lot less powerfull then ps3. Ps3 was a 800$ machine sold for 600 that was equivalent to a high end pc in 2005. Ps4 is a 350$ machine sold for 400$ and is preaty much a low end pc... the leap isnt as big as people expected
1080p 60fps minimum*
1080p 60 fps is what we would all want as the minimum, however reality slaps us in the face and says not for 400 and 500 dollars. What we expected and reality are two separate things, at $400 i knew 1080p @60 wasn't happening. Although i wouldn't mind 1080p being standardized but i'm not holding my breath.