Twinfinite writes: There can only be One True Snake in Metal Gear Solid. Join me as I compare both Solid and Naked Snake in three separate categories of badassery.
Solid Snake since he's actually beat naked snake in battle.
That was Big Boss in his sixties. Solid wouldn't stand a chance against Big Boss at his prime.
Solid maybe had the upperhand with younger age but Big Boss got tons of upperhand with years of experiences, legendary CQC, Outer Heaven troops, Gray Fox (the best soldier in Foxhound), and Metal Gear. Not to mention at that time Solid Snake still a rookie when he beat Big Boss in Zanzibar Land and Outer Heaven.
do you mean big boss at his sixties with bunch of his lackey at mother base?
Solid Snake... Why? Because even when he was super old and ridden with FoxDie he took down a whole army. Also, he beat Naked Snake with a spray can and a lighter.... A SPRAY CAN AND A LIGHTER!!! As far as the years of training goes. Solid's training was mirrored after Naked Snake. He received those skills earlier and much faster. Yes people, training advances over time.
I like both, but I gotta hand it to Solid. MG became big with MGS1.
Solid Snake is the original, if that makes sense. Although he's just a clone (spoiler), he was the first we played as in MGS1. (I think you played as him in MG and MG2 as well.)
Naked Snake(Jack) is the original. His missions(during the cold war) in MGS 3 takes place before MGS 1 and 2. Solid Snake(David),Liquid and Solidus(George) are clones of Naked Snake. Solid Snake and Solidus favors Naked Snaked physically. Liquid favor EVA more than the Big Boss.
By original, I meant he's the first one we were introduced to, hence "if that makes sense. Although he's just a clone". I understand Naked Snake is literally the original, but the first one we were introduced to or played as is Solid Snake. To reiterate a point I thought I made clear in my first post, I understand chronologically MGS 3 comes before MGS 1, for instance, MGS 1 still came first and we played it before MGS 3.
Na mehn Naked Snake
Obviously Naked. He's been through more then Solid, he's the original snake. Plus they've even said in game that Solid was an imperfect clone. Not that either Snake is bad but Ive always enjoyed Naked's games better because of how deep the themes and character development goes. The Solid story line feels like he's only cleaning up after Zero and Big Boss. He goes through a lot and the end of 4 is heart breaking but it doesn't compare to the BB story.
Naked Snake of course. Everything his three clones have done, he did better.
"Obviously Naked. He's been through more then Solid, he's the original snake. Plus they've even said in game that Solid was an imperfect clone" THIS. [plus, he eats snakes. no brainer] /thread
Dont know, don't care, cant figure out sh!t from shinenola about this series anyway. All I know is there is dude with a bandanna that goes around "sneaking" that periodically has boss fights with anime styled bosses. The solstice of stealth games.....LOL (right).
then why click on this article if you don't care for the series at all?
I was waiting for this response. Answer: Cause I play the games. Just don't give hoot about lore. Tried at some point to "get it" but couldn't. Tried paying a few a people to explain it to me from soup to nuts, with Wiki's, Google, the database, Kojima interviews and all that jazz available and there ate still massive holes in the timeline and so on. Doesn't matter...really.. I kick shin's, hide in boxes, all kinds of silly crap the series is known for. Fart and so on. Shoot some guns, smoke and kill some anime bosses. Then I move on to the next game on my list.
"I was waiting for this response." Snarky sunvabich ain't we?
Its the internet you cocksucker.
Haha thanks for reminding me! Although i already knew, and i didn't even need to pay anyone or use wiki and google to tell me! [INSERT TROLL FACE HERE] Oh and i'm a chicken BTW so the word c*ck doesn't really bug me, just saying. Anyways... de-bubbling in 3.. 2.. 1...
Oh I don't know, I think hes opinion was valid. Hell. I've been playing this series since the NES days and I don't understanding it either. I bubbled you down as well. To bad the other fellow couldn't, he ran out of comments...or maybe you where counting on that. By the way...would you mind explain to me what the whole MGS story is about. I'm sure I and the MilkMan would love to know the whole story. Maybe others as well.
Solid snake killed him twice and brought down all he's unit and killed grey fox... I'd say solid snake wins this one :D
As the 'imperfect clone' Solid beat Naked / Big Boss twice on Zanzibar and Outer Heaven. In MGS 1, Solid also beat Liquid who dub as the better clone compare to Solid. Also, in the end of MGS 4, Solid / Old Snake is the only clone who got "approved" by Big Boss as his "brother" or "son". So, my personal answer: Solid wins. But, Solid and Naked are bad ass, had amazing background story, and i love (no homo) both characters.
"As the 'imperfect clone' Solid beat Naked / Big Boss twice on Zanzibar and Outer Heaven. In MGS 1, Solid also beat Liquid who dub as the better clone compare to Solid" In your assesment you forgot to mention 2 important things. 1. Big Boss was old 2. Foxdie j/s
1. You forgot: Big Boss was old but he got tons of experiences, CQC, Outer Heaven troops, Gray Fox, and even Metal Gear. Compare to Solid who still a rookie at that time (infiltrating Zanzibar is Solid 1st mission as a Foxhound member). 2. You forgot: Solid beat Liquid, mano o mano, on the top of MG Rex. Heck, Solid even beat Liquid when he used a Hind D or Rex. Foxdie is a cruel trick from the Patriots, not from Solid.
@Inception (I never forget. I still own Ghost Babel lol) 1. All that really doesn't mean much when you're an old man. Michael Jordan as a rookie would dominate an old/aging Magic Johnson one on one. Simply because of youth/conditioning/stamina. Experince doesn't really matter. Realistically speaking. That final fight between Big Boss & Solid, (nes/msx)Big Boss would be tired as hell, lol. 2. Liquid was pretty lame imo. Him & Decoy Octopus both died in their 1st video game appearence. Young Solid Snake vs. Young Old Snake Old Snake all day (don't take my comments the wrong way. we agree to disagree :)
A wise man once said; there are many Snakes, but there is only one Big Boss.
Actually it's "there can only be one Snake, and one Big Boss!" :P Great f***ing series! xD Hard question but i gotta give it to Solid.
old snake is the best :D he was ill and weak but he fulfill his destiny and succed in his last mission
They don't call him Big Boss for no reason. Naked Snake all the way.
Big Boss is a character with the lot of depth who questions his actions and makes his own ideals. Solid Snake is just a grunt that does whatever he is ordered to do. As much as I love Solid Snake, imo games that involve Big Boss have better stories and character development. Also Snake along with Liquid had Big Boss 's recessive genes meaning that the old man was genetically superior. On a one on one fight the old man in his prime would've mopped the floor with Solid lol.
Is it just me or do all the comments have devils or demons on them? Am I hacked or is it just me!? I'm serious O_o
I'd say Hayter-Snake.
Solid always did the right thing. He fought for piece and a better world, not matter how many times he was screwed over. He was always strong enough to stick to what he knew was right. He did what Big Boss failed to acheive.
But, what people consider to be right is their own perception. People also don't take into account that with Big Boss's experience came many broken bones, fractures, his eye, dislocated joints, the rock lodged in his skull in Phantom Pain, etcetera. There's so much ridiculous damage to his body and he is still the top soldier of his time.
Naked snake makes my snake solid. old joke but good. Big boss taught solid CQC, so i say big boss.
Solid Snake is true and best depiction of true legendary hero ... the whole series has his cod name after MGS 1(which by one aspect is the first canonical MGS because is more close to Kojima 's original ideas ...and is the Snake which represents him ) Big Boss as protagonist created later so they can continue release games , he may be legendary soldier also but with this whole AI subject (in Peace Walker plot) where he confronts numerous hyper Mechs he distances himself from the realistic view of the series ...while Solid keeps a human vulnerable factor always with him and makes him more easy to believe and attach with
Nothing beats the original. It's a reason why he was cloned.
Solid, because he doesn't sound like a douche.
Naked because all that he has achieved and went through. He's the reason why Solid exist. Big Boss is the greatest hero and villain. Solid snake is bad ass though.
Solid was the greatest hero the world had ever seen. He was willing to sacrifice it all and even when facing certain death he continued fighting. His resolve and sense of doing right never wavered, even when the world turned against him. Also, big boss now sounds like the "lowest grunt" with Sutherland voicing him. Solid snake still has the voice of a cold calculated snake, not a gruff squirrel.
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