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Kinect has been 'unfairly judged' says Criterion head

Microsoft’s much maligned Kinect peripheral has been ‘unfairly judged’, the head of Criterion has said as the camera accessory is pulled as a boxed accessory.

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Ghost_of_Tsushima1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

He added: “Personally speaking, I think that Kinect has had a tough time from people judging it unfairly.”

Honestly people just wanted a choice it should've never been forced. That's all there is to it. Some people couldn't afford the bundle and that also caused a lot of missed sales.

Septic1245d ago

I don't see it as being forced on people. There were a lot of benefits from having it included in the box.

Sony themselves were quite close to including it judging by what has been said before. I think sometimes this industry is far too hostile to change.

But then again, I also understand why people were (and are) so critical of the device. Last gen, the first Kinect had little to no use for the core gamer and then with the new Kinect and its shortcomings such as its inability to carry out 1 to 1 tracking etc meant that people didn't see the appeal for the device.

So right now, the Kinect device is in limbo. We still haven't seen a CORE gaming application besides some cool system-side uses and the longer that goes on for, the more the Kinect will be relegated to the sidelines and is regarded as a gimmick by core gamers.

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Sitdown1245d ago

@MrTehDiNGO
Are you saying that it is the superior format and does exactly what it was created you do? Interesting point.

Volkama1245d ago

I want to see the face-modelling stuff (something like the champions from Kinect Sports Rivals) utilised in more games. For example Sunset Overdrive, if I could scan in a stylised version of me for the multiplayer that be enough to validate the device for me.

The Kinect functionality can be enabled/disabled on the fly, so for modelling like this the Kinect would only use resource during the scan and would not hinder the performance of the core game at all.

I'm sure that isn't worth the £80 for some people (or more likely £130+ when it is sold separately), but I think it'd be neat.

kreate1245d ago

I think MS shifted focus away from kinect and decided to make AAA games for core gamers.

Once there are enough games out and the core gamers are somewhat satisfied, than they will return to kinect.

If they dont return to kinect, it will die a quiet death.

Spotie1245d ago

If the only way to buy the console was with the Kinect, then it was forced. If the UI works better with than without, then it's forced.

Chevalier1245d ago

What major games use it that changed the way we play games? Non gaming features aside it hasn't been utilized in games properly. MS has promised and hyped up so much more than it can actually do, like those scanning features? Milo demoed on kinect? Major games like Ryse being nothing like their E3 demo and becoming a controller based game instead. Honestly over 3 years of waiting for this game to prove it's greatness and we have dance and exercise games. They're being fairly judged based on heavy cost and lack of games.

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jessupj1245d ago

The fact that MS changed Ryse from a kinect game to a typical hack and slash, ie a more core friendly game, says to me that MS never considered the kinect to be a core device.

IcicleTrepan1245d ago

maybe not a core gaming device..

Why o why1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Kinect was never core. I honestly doubt k2 can handle core games either by itself. Ill add to septics comment that some of the ill feeling towards kinect was down to the shift ms made in order to support it last gen. From a core gamer perspective it was too rapid leaving little to no core releases from its release. Its a strange association but I've heard many people voice this.

Kinect can still prove itself if developers have confidence in its hardware and their ability to utilise it efficiently, obviously whilst making an enjoyable game. Nothing is stopping them. I loosely compare the camera to the steering/gaming wheels which don't need to be forced on us for them to be supported.

Jdoki1245d ago

I think a lot of people would have been OK with picking up an XB1 with Kinect if it cost the same as the PS4 from Day 1.

The problem was, in my opinion, that people wanted a cheaper XB1 - and Kinect was the obvious target for cost savings.

I've said before, if MS had the balls they would have cut the cost of the XB1 and left in Kinect to ensure their 'vision' was seen through.

I am still convinced we could have seen a game that really utilised Kinect properly, and not as a gimmick in a hardcore title - now, we are unlikely to ever see that as Kinect is not mandatory.

ArchangelMike1245d ago

^^^Exactly this!
Microsoft could have simply cut the price of the xboxonekinect console, to match the PS4 price point. But instead they cut loose the kinect. Which suggests to alot of people that the vision for it was a bit to high in the sky for reality.

Volkama1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I think the Kinect still has some major shortcomings that will prevent it being used as the core control mechanism for any game.

There is still noticable latency, and the fact that the device has no idea where the TV is severely reduces the practical application (for example one of the most intuitive gestures would be pointing at something on the screen, but the Kinect has no idea where the screen is so that cannot work).

The voice controls can make sense in core games, but they don't require such a sophisticated piece of hardware.

As I say above, I would love to see greater use of the 3D modelling capability. Kinect Sports champions, Project Spark mo-cap and such.

A competitive FPS where you play as a stylised version of yourself, with mo-capped taunts you recorded out-of-game? That is something I think core gamers could appreciate. And it wouldn't hurt the performance of the game at all.

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GamerzElite1245d ago

MS should have release more stuffs for Kinect. Only bundling and lack of software can't convince user to buy it.

F4sterTh4nFTL1245d ago

Kinect killed Xbox One, that is how I will judge it.

Kingthrash3601245d ago

Well that and the weaker hardware.. Terrible reveal... The lies...the truth...the quotes like "just deal with it".. The DRM..the no trade in games...the720p,900p,792p vs 1080p...the lack of game releases... Lack of New ip's..bad indie policies ...paywalls...ads.
I understand that they have 180ed some of these things...but they happened and they hurt the system too.

URNightmare1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Like I said in that other article
, Xbox is a complete mess I want to stay away from.

Pogmathoin1245d ago

So why come here and comment then? Oh... I would be called the troll.....

ifistbrowni1245d ago

I was one of the Kinect "nay-sayers" before buying my Xbox One. I was making my judgments purely off of Kinect Xbox 360 (unfair judgment).

I was immediately impressed with Kinect 2.0 and now I am sad that it will, most likely, not be supported in the future.

Mikelarry1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Agreed

i am enjoying my xbox one and kinect alot more than i thought i would using voice commands to do certain task just feels great for example the " xbox record that" rather than having to press buttons just feels natural. i really hope ms and developers keeps supporting it and not give up on it so easily.

iamnsuperman1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

It isn't a gaming device. That is the issue. It isn't being unfairly judged. It doesn't suit the gaming enviroment. The kinect is an expensive way to "improve" UI which is why it didn't catch on (after the initial buzz years ago). Improving UI needs to be cheaply done and not with an expensive add on. That and improving the gaming use side in a meaningful way (which is impossible due to the hardware limitations) would have made the kinect 2 popular

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