Ed from Twinfinite writes: Let's take a look back at three fantastic Japanese Role Playing Games (JRPGs) over the last three generations of consoles that for one reason or another, never got the respect or attention they deserved.
Lost Odyssey was absolute rubbish compared to tales of vesperia another 360 exclusive!
I own them both. Both are amazing.
weird, i remember playing vesperia on PS3 a couple of years ago.
I should have said exclusive in the west sorry :P
Lost Odyssey was the closest game Xbox 360 owners got to a REAL Final Fantasy experience. Tales of Vesperia was quality too but it's hard to compare games with such different visual styles and systems.
"a REAL Final Fantasy" this makes me laugh lol
I bought x360 recently to play Tales of vesperia, lost odyssey, blue dragon, fable 2 and gears trilogy. Tales of vesperia was best out of bunch, gears following. Basically thats the reason I skip xbox consoles or buy them very late in the end of its lifetime, - theres too few compelling exclusives.
Never played Lost Odyssey, but I've heard nothing but good things about it.
It is just a very traditional JRPG, very similar to FFX IMO. Since the classic turn base style is far from common these days it is probably my favorite JRPG on last gen, besides Valkyria Chronicles and the Souls games
Valkryia Chronicles could have easily replaced LO on this list for me. Tie breaker was that VC is more of a SRPG. Both games are fantastic though.
Someday...I WILL play Lost Odyssey. Still waiting to be able to buy a 360 and the game for $100 or less...I'll still be waiting a while...
I played it up till the second disk. Then the second disk was broken :( Seemed good though
The case for the collection is rubbish, probably one of the reasons for the scratches. I am hoping for Xbox 360 originals or something on Xbone so I can play it again since I sold my 360 a while ago.
Lost Odyssey's problem was being an Xbox 360 exclusive. JRPGs go to that console to the Xbox brand to die. It wouldn't have been a game that was missed on the PS3. The other 2 games I'd personally replace with Suikoden 1 and 2 myself.
Indeed, I'd say the Suikoden franchise is rather overlooked, would be nice to see a proper revival. I never quite understood why people (article author included) only give Suikoden 2 a shoutout and not the original though... Whilst 2 improves upon the gameplay, the first was rather novel with how many characters you could recruit and had just as of a story if not better. I prefer the more tragedy orientated story of the first. Personally I didn't have a problem with LO being 360 exclusive though. Me and my circle of friends all like JRPGs and got 360s over PS3s last gen and enjoyed it. Not say I'd have problems with it going multi-plat though. There's nothing from with games being enjoyed by more people so long as the ports don't suffer.
Don't forget 3. I think 3 is my favorite.
Yeah... looks at Valkyria Chronicles probably the best JRPG game last gen and sold like 1.18M copies not much higher than .87M of Lost Odyssey. Most JRPGs on PS3 do hardly any better look at Ni No Kuni, Tales of Xillia, and Tales of Graces F they all managed around only 1M units. Look I love my PS3 for JRPGs as much as the next guy but these games are hardly any more successful then Lost Odyssey. There are many other good JRPGs that did not sell extremely well on PS3. This idea that JRPGs sell only on PS3 is absurd, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vespiria, and Lost Odyssey all did exceptionally well considering the low popularity in JP. All of this stems from the terrible ideology of Xbox owners only play shooters, which is a load of crap.
You wanna know the difference between a game like Valkyria Chronicles and Lost Odyssey? One is a Sega game. That should be enough of an indication as to the problem, but let me spell it out for you. Sega can't market for sh*t. They also don't know their userbase AT ALL because they then decided to put the sequel on the PSP and not even release the third game outside of Japan. But in the end, every single JRPG on the PS3 did better than every JRPG on the Xbox 360. The market for JRPGs is practically non-existent on the Xbox 360 and Lost Odyssey came out during a time where it would have been a perfect release on the PS3 given that that's where the majority of JRPG fans migrated to, it was early in the console's life, and people were desperate for a good JRPG. Time moves on and interests do as well so by the time good JRPGs came around, the fanbase was too busy with other stuff. "All of this stems from the terrible ideology of Xbox owners only play shooters, which is a load of crap." No it's not, it's the truth. Look at the push the shooter genre has received on the Xbox brand. Shooters are the most played and most successful genre of game on any Xbox console, whereas Sony consoles tend to have a more balanced reception. Sorry but JRPGs go to die on the Xbox, they always do better on Playstation consoles, and that includes multiplats where the PS version still outsells the Xbox version. Get used to it.
Well Tales of Vesperia PS3 did better than Vesperia 360. So the idea that "JRPG sell better on PS3 compare to 360" isn't far from the truth. Because, if JRPG on 360 can have the same sales just like PS3, than tell me why we never heard a 360 version for Ni no Kuni, Valkyria Chronciles, Tales of Graces f/Xillia/Xillia 2/Symphonia Chronicles/Zestiria, Persona series, Disgaea series, Atelier series, Drakengard 3, Dragon's Crown, FF X/X-2, or Neptunia?
I wish Lost Odyssey came to the PS3 as well. On a purely physical level, I hate the packaging with 4 discs crammed in that case. It's practically begging to be scratched to death. But I also know that Mistwalker had no choice in the matter. They were just starting their new studio and needed funds. They went to the big publishers and offered an exclusivity deal for money. Microsoft signed the contract for two games and Mistwalker had to abide by the terms. And so Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were developed for Microsoft. I'm happy that they are now free to make games for whoever they want. I hope Mistwalker announces their next project at TGS.
Skies of Arcadia really badly needs an HD release, Sega teased one a few years back, but then never delivered. Said they were listening to fans and Shenmue HD and Skies HD were the top requested games for HD conversion and then nothing....
But I thought you wanted Sonic CD rereleasing for $15 instead? Sega need to get their act together.
I wouldn't mind them rereleasing the iOS/Android versions of Sonic and Sonic 2 (made by the guy behind the fresh new Sonic CD rebuild) on consoles and handhelds. Perhaps with the rumored remastered Sonic 3 & Knuckles that Taxman and Stealth are working on. A Remastered Classic Collection with the extra items/levels/paths/bosses that are in the new versions. It's sad that it took Sega hiring a duo from the Sonic Retro forums to actually get a perfect ground up reproduction of the original games, physics and all, when Sega hasn't been able to replicate it themselves all these years later. Can only hope they let those two make an official proper sequel to Sonic 3K that isn't Sonic 4 *shudders* Yes they do need to get their act together. These are the guys that used to be able to take on Nintendo when they were a bigger deal than they are today. And now they can't even release what people ask for let alone decent new IP. Where the hell is my PSO2?!
My opinion on these three games: Guardian's crusade is practically unknown and being published by Activision and with a mobyscore of 67, it's probably going to stay that way. I've never played it so I can't say how good it is but I do know it is doomed to obscurity. Skies of Arcadia is a masterpiece. I recently picked up the GameCube version and played it on my Wii. Sega NEEDS to port this game to more consoles ASAP. Far too many RPG fans have never played it (much like Suikoden II) and that needs to change. Along with Valkyria Chronicles, it's probably my favorite Sega game ever. If your an RPG fan, Lost Odyssey (along with Tales of Vesperia) is probably the only reason to own a 360. Pretty much every other RPG on 360 can be played on other consoles or PC. But Lost Odyssey is something special. It's both similar to other JRPGs (in battle system) and at the same time like nothing the genre has ever seen before (in story and setting). Blue Dragon and The Last Story disappointed me but because of this game, I keep waiting for Mistwalker to announce their next project. There are so many fantastic RPGs that most people have probably missed. The 3 listed in this article are only a fraction. I recommend the aforementioned Suikoden II and Valkyria Chronicles as well as the Tales of games, the Dark Cloud, Disgaea, Golden Sun, Shining Force and Fire Emblem series.
You have good taste in games. ;)
My personal favorite for people to play are xenogears back when it was just squaresoft, valkarie profile , grandia, saga frontier(highly recommended) , breath of fire 3&4 and persona series. for strategy rpg's i always thought front mission 3 was sweet.
Yup this is just a short list! I could write a novel about unappreciated games. Not everyone has time to read a huge list unfortunately :) With GC I wanted to give at least one example that barely any has heard of. Its score I think is largely derived from coming out during a JRPG golden age. It holds up way better than most games that came out during its time period. I would highly recommend it especially for its gameplay and how well translated it is.
Sega should really do a proper new Shining Force game, Shining Force 4 or something. Not the crap that the Shining series has turned into as of late. Not that we would know, considering most if not all the recent ones haven't come over from Japan at all.
I still have Skies of Arcadia for my Dreamcast. I would throw in there Ar Tonelico, Grandia, Arc the Lad, Wild Arms. There are some many great JRPGS to add to this list. Shame JRPGS are being pumped out as much as they use to be on the older consoles.
Ar Tonelico 1 & 2 are very underrated. People skip it because it has 2D graphics and some visual novel element. When in fact the story is good (lots of women / men psychology when we dive on the Reyvateils), the music are top notch, and the battle system is simple but fun.
Skies of Arcadia is amazing
Every time I see a thumbnail with anything Skies of Arcadia related my heart stops until once again I realize it's not a new game, then it breaks.
I'm so sorry! I get the same way :(
I didn't miss out on Skies of Arcadia. It's part of the reason I ADORE Valkyria Chronicles so much: Vyse and Aika on my team. THE HERO'S IN TROUBLE NOW, HAHAHA!!
I really wish Shadow Hearts: Covenant would come to the PSN so I could play it again. I never finished it on PS2, which is sad because it was shaping up to be one of the best RPGs I've ever played. Anyone else play that series?
Not just Shadow Hearts mate, but Koudelka needs a PSN released too.
I hadn't heard of Koudelka until you brought it up, so I checked Wikipedia and YouTube, and you're right, that game looks great! As a fan of both RPGs and Survival Horror, I have no idea how this one slipped past me! Thanks!
No prob mate ^^ Koudelka is the prequel for Shadow Hearts series and the main protag is a gipsy girl named Koudelka Lasant. Koudelka also appeared in the 1st Shadow Hearts and one of the main playable character, Halley Brancket, is her son. I hope there will be a remaster collection for Shadow Hearts series consist of Koudelka, Shadow Hearts, Shadow Hearts: Covenant, and Shadow Hearts: From the New World.
Need Skies of Arcadia remaster And people need to play Koudelka, Shadow Hearts, Ar Tonelico 1 & 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Nier, Ressonance of Fate, Wild Arms XF, and Drakengard 3. This are some amazing JRPG's that a lot of people skip because it doesn't have Final Fantasy on cover.
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