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PlayStation Just Screwed Up Big Time

CCC Says: "Sony just blew a lot of goodwill. How, you ask? Well then, clearly you haven't heard the bad news over which PS3, PS4 and Vita owners are lamenting and Microsoft and Nintendo fans are gloating. The PlayStation Now Beta is now a paid program, and the prices aren't cheap. To give a general idea, the basic price for a PS3 title that was originally sold at retail can range from $2.99-4.99 per 4 hours, $5.99-$7.99 for a week, and $14.99-$29.99 to have it for 90 days. Even PlayStation Store exclusives, like Crazy Taxi, follow the same pricing model as the low-end retail games."

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randomass171827d ago

I think it's fair for people to respond to the prices with their opinions, but I think some people are being very melodramatic about them. These are test prices and are not final.

shallowpoint827d ago

Agree 100% If Sony sticks to these prices then lets raise hell. Im sure after seeing the back lash they will change.

mkis007827d ago

Its just plain bad that all these stories are claiming bloody murder when these are beta prices...they have changed throughout the beta...
There is no story until they come out of beta.

fr0sty827d ago

Not to mention this is the hundredth opinion article about this exact same subject. N4G should put a limit on the number of days after a piece of news breaks that an opinion piece can be written about it or something... this is getting ridiculous.

kamisama827d ago

People don't understand it's a beta and Sony is trying to find the sweet spot for pricing literally the email they send out for the beta states that there listening carefully to what customers think and will change accordingly

abzdiine827d ago

when will these haters realize that prices aren't final?

Army_of_Darkness827d ago

Whatever the price may be,it doesn't really matter to me because I'm gonna stick with digital and physical disc to play my games.

DragonKnight827d ago

"Sony just blew a lot of goodwill."

How many of you are ditching your Playstation devices over place setter prices?

I'm not. Anyone else not getting rid of their PS devices?

justy112827d ago

The PlayStation now prices are not 100% controlled by Sony. the prices are set by the publishers and Developers of the games. Just like the DRM is also set by the publishers and developers and not Sony. This is part of Sony's policies of giving complete free to those that want to use it. There are articles of this for PlayStation now pricing and other Sony related stuff. If I can find them I will post it.

Death827d ago

So third parties are dictating first party game fees? If what you say is true, wouldn't first party games be cheaper?

Joe913827d ago

Not really as long as it is a beta and not real prices then all responses are melodramatic you have a right to bitch after the real prices come out don't rent anything in the beta that will send a clear message to Sony lol.

SilentNegotiator827d ago

Why are so many "journalists" latching onto the idea that PS Now beta prices are the end of the world for Sony itself?

Joe913827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

It is not fair because these may not be the real prices so anyone crying about this could cause people to not even try PS Now and it will all be because people jumped to conclusions yea these prices are stupid but lets see what Sony really does before we cry about it give them a chance they have stood up for gamers since the PS4 was announced and the first mistake or misstep you people want to cry about beta prices like it is the end of the world vote with wallet and see if the prices don't come down bout time the service really roll out. Sorry for double post did not see my first post until the second post was already up.

amiga-man827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

It is in Sony's best interest to make a success of this but it is also in their interest to make it as profitable as they can,

there is a balance to be struck and Consumers will be the deciding factor in that, too high they won't bite too low and Sony are not doing whats best for the company..

Ultimately the consumers will decide if it has value or not and Sony will follow that lead, so I'm not sure why some people are making such a fuss over something good that Sony is bringing to the Playstation.

sonarus826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

Agreed that these are test prices and not final but sony needs to recognize there is absolutely no way anyone will pay these prices. So I will say the melodrama is necessary here.

Mr_Writer85826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

@Dragonknight

Me!

How dare Sony charge prices for a service I will never use!

#endrage

GribbleGrunger826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

When are people going to wake up to the fact that PSNow is not for the audience who posts on sites like this. The prices will change, without a doubt, but this service is for people who don't really game as much as you or I. Yes, it will appear on the PS4. Vita and the PS3 but the main focus in the future will be TVs, Laptops, Phones, Blu-ray players and Pads.

kreate826d ago

I didnt know ppl cared about this program that much. If it fails, oh well.

BX81826d ago

Agreed. They should voice there disapproval for the prices, buts lets not act like Sony isn't in beta and said these are the prices like it or not.

Prime157826d ago

I agree, melodramatic.

What's worse, PlayStation Now BETA PRICING, or the absurd amount of ads on this site.

Pogmathoin826d ago

Frosty, agreed, even when a million of the same MS stories get through for the pleasure of fanboys...... There should be more strictness on what gets approved. Self policing...... We know that has never ever worked..... It only benefits those with an agenda to push.

Razputin826d ago

@Random....

Test prices really.. WTF do you think this is 1865?

This is 2014. They have betas, focus groups, Q&As for this kind of stuff.

Playstation Now should just be included with Playstation Plus. They are getting $50 from millions of people already. This could be even more incentive for people to move onto a different console. They should just have a small premium of maybe a few dollars, because you won't ever really own the game -- you don't already, but at least you had a disk to show for it, and this is just a streaming service.

I'm not here to bring the whole debacle of which console is best, or that PC is better.

But this is essentially why the PC model of online services is better.

Claudinho69826d ago

why the hell would u test these prices though, you must not be from this planet

jebabcock826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

in many cases... the prices aren't great.. but they aren't the only option... I don't think anybody is going to ignore sony because they offered an additional alternative that no other console manufacturer is offering despite how unfavorable the pricing is.. How can MS or Nintendo Gloat when they have nothing in place to compare with this? this article smacks of butt hurt fanboy..

Maybe Sony's initial proposal is not the best, but from a business standpoint its better to start too high than too low and find out you need to raise prices in order to not be in the red. It is much easier to lower prices than raise..

In the land of the blind, the One Eyed man Is king... Right now in this space for better or worse, Sony is King by default...

EDIT:

@Razputin

I guess you missed the whole part where THIS IS A BETA STILL!!!!!!

k3rn3ll826d ago

The problem is the Publishers have a huge input on the price. Sucks cuz I had high hopes for this service. Before beta there was lots of articles about PS signing publishers to include games on service. This is most likely the result of that. Even if it is Beta those prices are high mainly due to the pubs. Hopefully it changes but they dont need to use a beta to define their prices.

DOMination-826d ago

PSnow should be a subscription so whilst its fair to say these prices are subject to change its alao fair to point out that nobody asked for this

UltraNova826d ago

People need to realize that Beta, as in not the final product - being tested for further improvements via user feedback also includes pricing when available...

So can we please hold our horses and gladly rip Sony a new one if the final release is actually priced that ridiculously?

Thank you!

starchild826d ago

Well to be fair, if people don't react negatively then these prices very well could be the final prices.

Bimkoblerutso826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

If it is a beta, then people NEED TO LET SONY KNOW that these prices are outrageous. That's the point of a beta, for god's sake. As some of the more level-headed commenters have suggested, those prices probably would stay the same if Sony and the other publishers thought they could get away with it.

It's the nature of the beast. These companies are NOT your friends, dammit.

warczar826d ago

These prices may not be final but that doesn't make them suck any less. How can they expect people to pay more for Now than they do for gamely? I'm as big a Playstation supporter as there is but I'm not willing to overlook f'ed up business practices, that's why I don't buy Microsoft crap anymore. If Sony expects me to throw down money for Now they better get serious with the pricing because right now it's a joke.

Hayabusa 117826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

"test prices" lol.

@ DOMination-

I agree, I'd much rather pay for a subscription service.

Kidmyst826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

What a joke of journalism this article is written purely for flamebait. No one is forced to pay these prices, it's not a requirement to pay for PS Now. Some people get so over dramatic! If the price is too high then don't pay it, I can buy older games cheaper from Amazon VS through the PSstore. We gamers speak with our wallets, I won't support high prices and neither should anyone else. if Sony fails to make money off this, they will make changes.

spacecat5050826d ago

Instead of some of you defending these absurd prices you should be mad and letting Sony know that this isn't right and these prices are ridiculous.

It obvious that Sony will listen as they also changed the TLOU price when they thought they could get away with screwing their users over. This should be no different.

and I am seeing a lot of excuses saying the prices are like this because they are not aimed at gamers like us...so that makes it right? These prices are still a rip off for a non gamer or gamer alike.

Please stop with the Its OK Sony♥ mentality and lets tell Sony that they need a better price structure.

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MELMAN26827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

First of all, this is a betta.

People should not be charged ANYTHING to test out your product and give you feedback. In fact it should be the other way around, or free for testers.

LOL...@disagrees

You guys seriously think this cool to be charged to betta test this??? WOW....Sony owns your minds...lol. If anything these prices should be place holders...not actually charging people

ziggurcat827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

there's no chance that beta testers are actually being charged. and there's not even a shred of evidence to support that claim from the author.

edit: people are disagreeing with you because you're assuming that people are being charged (when they're likely not) based on an article that has clearly not done any research nor has it presented any evidence to prove that people are being charged.

spaceg0st827d ago

i have the beta. They used to be free... but since a week ago, they brought in new games WITH the prices attached. If you attempt to play it does want you to add funds to your wallet.

Dolf045827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

I think if they need to test run price models it has to be done in real money terms, if it was done with place holders it wouldn't mean anything you'd just play anyway and the numbers would be of little use to them.

Beta testing the functionality has been ongoing for a while. Now they need to test the pricing model.

It's a beta anyway! If you don't want to pay DON'T PAY! No ones got a gun to your head to be a tester.

@Melman26

I don't particularly think the pricing is great myself, although I'm Irish so dollar value would have me confused anyway really, but NOT buying is what will be seen internally. You have a choice! Free stuff is always good but the betas there for a reason, to me it's the same as playing a beta and complaining about bugs

XBOTTOX827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

First people are saying the pricing will change.

"Its just a Beta, Sony will make changes after hearing the backlash"

Then people say your not really being charged in the beta, even though these are the BETA PRICES.

@ziggurcat
No people are disagreeing because the forums are filled with Sony trolls.

How is it possible for Sony to "change" the prices when its alreadybeen established that they don't control them to begin with?

Somy just copied and developed some mo **** that nobody wants. read PS Vita read PS Tv read SonyVaio read PlayStation Move continue reading

MELMAN26827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

@Dolf
I don't know about you but I don't need to actually buy something to be able to see that the pricing isn't fare, or doesn't make sense.

If I were a beta tester I would play a few games and in my feedback I would let them know if the service is good/bad/ok then give them my feedback on the pricing.

@zigguracat...so much for your theory.

@morganfell
They could have shown the adjusted prices and got the same feedback. Actually charging people in a betta is a little grimmy don't you think?

morganfell827d ago

Pricing and cost were only recently instituted when they changed the game lineup for the 4th time. Likely they are using this to sense feedback. I don't have an issue with the titles or cost it's just that my PS3 library is fairly extensive.

randomass171826d ago

I personally don't agree with the prices either, but again, they are not final. And people are making it out to be the end of the world for Sony. It's silly.

k3rn3ll826d ago

This would be a completely different situation if these were new games. Alot of these are either old or just not good. But the Pubs arent gonna budge Sony basically just gave them an option to get the money back that they are losing to resells at places like Gamestop

UltraNova826d ago

Charging for a Beta is wrong. Sent a feedback report that includes possible pricing schemes and ask those users to fill it out.

You cant charge for a service being provided to you since the beta testers are doing work for you.

Sony’s not that stupid there has to be another reason to start charging like that in a beta nonetheless, I don’t know maybe it was to get the real, genuine reaction from users? Which they got clearly…

warczar826d ago

There are plenty of examples of people paying to be beta testers, Destiny and Windows Vista come to mind but with this pricing structure sony's trying to implement they'll be lucky to get 100 people to even try it.

Hayabusa 117826d ago

Unless, as some of the comments have pointed out, Sony are "testing" the price ranges as well, in which case, they shouldn't complain about people complaining, the beta testers need to give their feedback. That's the purpose of the beta.

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rdgneoz3827d ago

They may change in the future but if people are having to pay those prices to play the games, then those prices are currently set and people have the right to be pissed. A lot of the games available currently can be bought on Amazon or in gamestop for life, for less than what you'd have to pay for a week or 30 days at times. Hell, you can redbox a bunch of new games for $2 for 24 hours and spend on gamefly for a month, what you'd spend on a 1 week or month rental for 1 game....

And if the prices do change, you'll have the same thing that happened with Last of Us price reduction happening again. People are gonna feel screwed on paying more when it gets dropped and demand to be reimbursed.

As for the beta, I'll enjoy the free games for now till the prices get reasonable.

BlackCountryBob827d ago

I don't think anyone is having to pay those prices, it's called capitalism, if you don't wanna pay it then don't and the service will change or die.

And why should someone need to be reimbursed, it's a rental service, once the rental period ends then who cares.

Christopher827d ago

I think people are missing the thing here:

Sony doesn't set the prices. Publishers do. There are people with $3-14 rentals and people with $5-30 rentals. The publishers decided to go with the more expensive options. Not Sony.

Darkstares827d ago

We know that, trouble is the public image still points the finger at Sony since it's their service. And don't think for a second that Sony doesn't have any input on that pricing, otherwise why are the prices the same for the 4 hour rental for example?

Christopher827d ago

***We know that, trouble is the public image still points the finger at Sony since it's their service.***

That only happens because people here point the finger at Sony as well. If people actually talked about this properly, there wouldn't be "public image" issues.

And, honestly, people don't know that.

***otherwise why are the prices the same for the 4 hour rental for example?***

They're not. Some are $3 for 4-hours and others are $5 for 4-hours.

I will agree that there are likely pricing plans that Sony suggests, but publishers decide to go with the cheaper options or the more expensive options.

Depending on the game, even the low/high costs aren't that bad compared to buying the game outright on Amazon.com

Alpha Protocol for 7 days is $6. Costs $10 on Amazon.

Deus Ex: HR for 7 days is $7. Costs $15 on Amazon.

FFXIII for 7 days is $6. Costs $20 on Amazon.

FFXIII-2 for 7 days is $8. Costs $18 on Amazon.

If you're going to play and beat games in only a week, PS Now might be an opportunity to save you some money and free you from having to sell it back or send it back.

It definitely isn't for everyone.

DragonKnight827d ago

Darkstares: Sony charges a percentage fee of the final price for hosting the game on their service. That's the only influence they have over the price. If the publisher/developer wants more money, they'll factor in Sony's fee and raise the price of the game so they make more. If they don't care, then the price won't be as high.

Square-Enix are trying to charge $30 to rent FFXIII for 3 months when you can buy the game for $20 online. What does Sony gain from that? They only receive a percentage fee, probably something like 20% which only amounts to $6 for them. That's just a drop in the pond to them.

Darkstares827d ago

Both of you are probably right. Sony likely has some pricing plans for them to look at as a suggestion. However whatever the publisher decides on the consumer will still question the whole service (meaning Sony) if prices are not very good.

Where this service needs to go that other services like Onlive didn't is for new games. That is where I can see the impact and interest occurring.

Volkama827d ago

People are also possibly forgetting that the service and prices are not aimed T Playstation owners. This is Playstation Now as it will be on Bravia TVs and later who-knows-what else.

I expect their will be significant discounts for Playstation plus subscribers.

ALLWRONG826d ago

But Sony does set the prices for 1st party, and they look to be just as expensive.

Christopher826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

***But Sony does set the prices for 1st party, and they look to be just as expensive.***

Interesting considering there aren't any first-party titles available since they moved to the priced items.

Of the current 29 games listed, none are first or second party titles. If you access the old titles that were first-party, they are listed as free still.

Edit: The fact that people agree with the comment right above mine means that people don't want the truth, they just want to continue being biased and hypocrites.

Imalwaysright826d ago

That just further proves that turning games into services and giving total control to publishers is not on our best interests.

Christopher826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

@Imalwaysright: Agree with that.

The sad thing is, it's a no-win situation. There's no way around not giving publishers their cut. And, sometimes, they determine the cut should be more than we think it should. But, without the publishers, we wouldn't have these to begin with.

So, have no games or have them at their pricing.

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Dolf045827d ago

They've already stated that the price is set by the publisher, and the fact that it's still in beta means that they have yet to gauge what price customers are willing to pay.

We don't have much in the way of context yet with regards overheads on Sonys side too. It could cost x amount per session just to run the service.

It's very early to be freaking out over pricing just yet

FanboyKilla827d ago

Thats why they let the info out, to see how you would react. Most sony fans say the prices arent final dc. Others say wtf. Depends on if you let your fanboyism screw you in the end. Speak up. I would have thought the games they are renting would be games i would get for free with plus.

colonel179827d ago

But it's a big problem when you have to PAY those insane prices if you are in the beta! That's the biggest problem! Will they refund everyone when they already set them right?

I think it's also a huge mistake that they are charging during the beta! It's supposed to be to try out the service and see how it works. With those prices nobody will want to try it out!

iamnsuperman827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

You have misunderstood the point of this beta. Charging in the beta is a vital move for Sony (Sony have already trailed the server load before in previous betas). Sony can then gauge if the prices work and which ones work better than others (refining the pay structure before release)

Without this trail Sony would have no idea which ones or if any work. Beta testing pricing is very important before releasing a service. Surveys don't give a realistic picture of how far Sony can push it before things become unpopular. If no-one uses it then they know it doesn't work. It is up to Sony to react to the findings

Bowzabub827d ago

This is great that the media got a whiff of this. All of the publishers are seeing the responses that the prices are getting. Now the ball is in our court. This is the time to be very vocal and stick together.

LoTuZ827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

People pay these same prices to rent movies and can't play them back outside of 24 hours from first play back. These prices take male back to the blockbuster days. For a week rental Ide pay $5-$7. I thought i heard it was that price for 4 hours. Now that would be bull.

Aceman18827d ago

soooooo these so called "gaming sites" are complaining about prices that are not set in stone.

Sony themselves said they are not set in stone at E3, and they'll be taking consumer feedback during the beta about pricing, and stuff.

hey "gaming sites" go write about something more interesting instead of complaining about something that's not set in stone.

DLConspiracy826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

This is true but why even put a price at all then? People keep saying its not Sony's fault about the prices. No its their job with this service to figure it out. They need a subscription based service like Netflix does with streaming movies only much more along the lines of gamefly. These companies work out the details behind the scenes while we as consumers pay a flat price. Let Sony work out the prices not confuse the consumer. Yes, we get that its a beta. Beta is the final stages of testing software and servers. Not testing prices. Though I am sure it will change.

Subscription based is the only way to go with this service. If not it will quickly fade. Just an unfortunate ending to a great idea.

wsoutlaw87826d ago

I dont get how now could be in any way bad for sony. If the prices are 10000$ who cares, dont use it. Its not bad since ms and nintendo dont have their own service. I dont know who these writers think were just buying a ps4 for now. If anything its more for making it cheaper for people who never bought a console.

SpideySpeakz826d ago

How about this:
New AAA titles:
Play up 3-4 games for 3 months for $29.99, 60 days for $19.99, 30 days for $9.99

Indie titles:
Play up to 5-6 games for 3 months for $19.99, 60 days for $9.99, $5.99 for 30 days

Old AAA games (maybe more than 2-3 years old):
4-5 games @ Same prices as new indie games, but $15.99 for 90 days.

Classic games (older than 7 years): Play ALL classic games free if you have a PS+ subscription.

ALL YOU CAN PLAY subscription model for 1 year @ $139.99 to play everything on PSNow.

ALL YOU CAN PLAY subscription model for 6 months @ $69.99.

I don't know, this pricing could save you a lot of money, or play more by paying less. But I believe only hardcore gamers who play 24/7 will like this service. No more paying $60.00 for 9-10 hour games.

JayD-1K826d ago

I wonder how this stacks up to something like Game Fly?