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Stardock CEO Comments on Spencer's DX12 Won't Be Massive Change Claim, Comparison With Mantle & More

Recently, Microsoft's Xbox Division boss Phil Spencer stated via Direct X12 for Xbox One won't be massive change but it will unlock more capability for Xbox One developers. Fans and critics were surprised with this statement from Spencer and reacted sharply as Direct X12 is touted as a game changer for Xbox One in next-gen console war against Playstation 4. (Brad Wardell, Xbox One)

johndoe11211  +   85d ago
"as Direct X12 is touted as a game changer for Xbox One in next-gen console war against Playstation 4"

Touted by who? The author should have stated who exactly is making those claims.
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sam_job  +   85d ago
after initial announcement of DX 12 many said this thing....
georgeenoob  +   85d ago | Well said
DX12 won't be a massive change, but it will nevertheless give a nice boost. Just like that June update, it wasn't a massive change, but it definitely helped developers with resolution and enriching gameplay.

Any boost in performance is always a plus.
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darthv72  +   85d ago
George...I am an xbox fan (among other platforms) and even i knew that whatever kind of improvements that DX12 offers to the development of XB1 games.....it will offer to the development of PS4 games as well.

Keep in mind that both are more similar than they are different. Even when it comes to using API's like DX12 and OpenGL, etc.

Lets not dwell on the specifics of the code but more on the skills of the coders. those are the ones that do the real work. Making something appear to have achieved more within the same scope of whence it originated.

Optimization, really good programming and good old fashioned teamwork are what makes a game great. oh and creativity. So if there is an secret sauce to be found....its on the hamburgers these guys eat to keep them energized.
MorePowerOfGreen  +   85d ago
I think the PS4 fanboys are twisting what Phil said in the first place.

MSFT said it won't be a massive change Doesn't need to be a massive change for parity or to do some things the other can't.

Don't see how fanboys are going nuts over this. Phil basically said DX12 won't be like releasing new hardware but will help devs make better games -or- devs won't have a hard time adjusting to DX12 vs DX11, which I think the former was the case.

Folks are relieved over some piss poor article from Dualshockers that was spun into something more than what was said.

That article felt like damage control.

Again it doesn't need to be a "massive change", a big change is good enough vs PS4. This is good news considering the anti Xbox One theme was that DX12 was not for XB1, then later on DX12 wouldn't help at all or very little.

So in reality it's "not a massive change" nor a *very little change/no change*

That Dualshockers article was designed to try and kill mindshare momentum post E3 due to all the pre E3 DX12 hype and E3 cloud compute hype(crackdown 3 etc).

Hell even the basic reasoning is spun or twisted. Since when does something not being "MASSIVE" mean nothing or close to nothing? LOL The twisted logic of that article has sparked a twisted theme by twisted minds.

Folks were thinking DX12 would double the performance etc. and Phil used that twitter comment as an opportunity to set the record straight, saying no it's not a massive change. That comment was spun some how into Phil saying it will hardly do anything or only do what PS4 fanboys assume so PS4 fanboys ran with it.

Not sure why folks are excited over somebody saying it's "not a massive change" I'll take *huge* *big* or *any*

Next gen games are not a "massive change" from last generation games yet Forza 5 hurts Forza 3, COD Advanced Warfighter hurts COD MW4, AC Unity, The Division... on and on(works with games in the same generation too, from start to end)
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ziggurcat  +   85d ago | Well said
@ MPoG:

cut the hypocrisy.

you and all of the other faithful around here were touting DX12 as the second coming of christ. now that phil's completely put that nonsense to bed, you're suddenly humble about what DX12 is going to do for xbone, and even blaming PS fans for over-hyping DX!2 - despite the fact that people had been *telling* you all for weeks that DX12 wasn't going to have as much of an impact for xbone as it will for PC?

please... stop.
MysticStrummer  +   85d ago | Well said
@ziggurcat - Don't bother. Guys like Green aren't interested in reality. They'll revise history to suit them, and anyone who points that out will be called a fanboy hater who fears the XB. Green knows he's part of the problem if he has any self awareness at all, but he'll keep right on doing what he does.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   85d ago | Well said
@MorePowerOfGreen

Don't...even...try it. You were one of the guys who was hyping up DX12 to the moon, more so than any other person on here i would argue. Now here you are, acting all humble, and even trying to spin the blame onto PS fans. Pathetic. I saw you quote AMD saying that DX12 would be like "leaping generations ahead", i saw you quote that multiple times. So don't sit there and act like this isn't a huge serving of crow to you, because it is.

"That Dualshockers article was designed to try and kill mindshare momentum "

Lmao "mindshare momentum". What is with all these buzzword-ridden conspiracy theories you come up with? Do you honestly believe anyone believes them?

Face it, you were at the forefront of the DX12 brigade on this website (and probably others too), now that Phil himself has shot down your hopes of DX12 being some huge game changer, you're acting humble and trying to push that plate of crow away from yourself.

You should just keep quiet about DX12, run back to MisterX's blog, and await the next excuse from him to spew here on his behalf.
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pyramidshead  +   85d ago | Well said
That was a persona breaking comment there by georgenoob, looks like he's come around to the fact that DX12 wasn't the secret sauce he was looking for after all. Top lel.

Georgenoob and MPoG already got exposed and owned by another user which was funny. Hell i'll upload it for the lulz!

http://i.imgur.com/yDFzgj9....

^ for anyone who's interested anyway.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   85d ago
@pyramidshead

Lmao! Exposed as the frauds they are. Love it. Talk about credibility-ruining comments, especially from MPOG and georgeenoob (not that they had any anyway). Look at those in contrast with their comments above. Priceless.

Crow and humble pie has been served.
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Prime157  +   85d ago
@pyramidshead,

Wow. Thank you for putting that into an image. Thank John doe for typing it up.

I, especially, laughed at morepowerofgreen's comment after his rant.

Bubbles and kudos.
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ThunderSpark  +   85d ago
@pyramidshead:

Bubbles bro, bubbles. You need more lol.
StrangerX  +   85d ago
Well, the problem is that people or fans dont understand what DX12 really does and its not really a boost like most fans and sony fans say thats just a boost. DX12 Its more like implementation of the way the code is implemented in the hardware. What this means is that the same game can be put with the same code and same performance as the original code but because the implementation is different to the hardware, the game will run faster and more balance with less hiccups or frame drops without the need to optimize the code. Thats what it means that there is no massive change but the implementation of the games code are now coded for DX12 so the development wont be affected massively but the game wills run faster, hence giving the developer more room for wither higher res, texture or more details that were harder to get out from the hardware. Plus whatever the extra features that are specifically for DX12 HARDWARE.😉
jebabcock  +   85d ago
@MPoG

wow... That made absolutely no sense... So you mean that PS4 fans generated all the articles about Dx12 being a game changer and this whole time you have been denouncing that along with George and truefan... Not really sure who you think you are fooling... but Lucas is right, now would probably be a pretty good time to just NOT say anything for a while if you are going to spurt out that kind of trash.

In reality there were the Sony Fans who were overzealous in indicating this wouldn't make any difference, then there were more reasonable people who said the Difference would not be that dramatic.. On the other end there were the Xbox fans who were overzealous and started pulling out crazy numbers from who knows where about dx being a massive game changer...

In the end I ultimately blame those responsible for writing and publishing such tripe articles just to generate a few lousy hits...

To be level and honest, Very impressed with Phil caming out and stating this. Not something alot of other people would do. It shows forward thinking on his part and a sense of moral dignity that microsoft has lacked for such a long time. If he continues this course, I may have to consider a little more seriously the prospect of getting an X1.
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Silly Mammo  +   85d ago
So the question is- what will they try to spin next? We've already had kinect, firmware update, the Cloud, DX12, and kinect-less power gain.
Gamer1982  +   85d ago
Only fanboys were touring thDX12 being a massive game changer after a few devs saying positive things about it.. They wouldnt listen to people and instead did what any fanboy did and took developers comments out of context to try scare sony fans.

A bright side to this is I been saying all along DX12 isnt a game changer and got nothing but disagrees on here. MS back up my statement and its nice to see them stop lying to there consumers for once.. As outside the elitist fanboys (less than 1%) most gamers hate the lies and bullcrap. So well done MS for being honest.. Now they gotta be hoenst about how cloud computing is going to affect games on xbox as right now they are very clever in wording showing off PC demos and saying it can be ported to xbox not saying exactly which buts can be ported.. Very clever marketing and wording..
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Evilsnuggle  +   85d ago
And the award to johndoe11211@ and pyramidshead@

Just DROP THE MIC
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UltraNova  +   84d ago
@MorePowerOfGreen

I think its safe to say that Pyramid has taken your head and used it as bowl to make soup...

Got it?
XiSasukeUchiha  +   84d ago
And the funniest thing is DX12 isn't a game changer,it just bring performance boost that's is all confirmed by Phil Spencer the head of Xbox by the way , and here we have articles promoting the fact that DX12 is game changer on Xbox 1 which is not. Xbots are turning into Super Saiyan Xbots, with their glimmer of hope riding on this. Sasuke Laugh for all the fanboys. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
NextLevel  +   85d ago
"Touted by who? The author should have stated who exactly is making those claims"

Xbox One fans looking for any glimmer of hope to stop the bleeding on the technological conversations involving the hardware. The cloud is another example of this, which Microsoft should have never said it'll make the Xbox One 10x more powerful. Think about it, the Xbox One is getting beat by the PS4 is hardware sales, hardware performance, software sales and software performance. Anything that could be positive, gets transformed into the savior.
randomass171  +   85d ago
I think you're exaggerating a little bit. Few people are that delusional. The only people I've seen repeat that sort of nonsense is the usual Xbox trolls, and they don't really represent Xbox fans as a whole. Whatever DX12 does for XB1 will be helpful at best and insignificant at worst and the generation will continue on as usual.
NextLevel  +   85d ago
"The only people I've seen repeat that sort of nonsense is the usual Xbox trolls, and they don't really represent Xbox fans as a whole"

Maybe here. Go to an pro Xbox site. And yes the fanboys don't represent the fanbase as a whole, I shouldn't even have to state that.
MasterCornholio  +   85d ago
Only a few are that desperate. The majority have already accepted the differences in specs between the two systems.
pyramidshead  +   85d ago
People saw it from a mile off though, everyone could see xbox fanboys building the pyramid that was DX12 to only have it crumble when the truth was revealed while everyone else watched on. The backtracking and revisionist n4g comment history is hard at work in the name of damage control now to save face.

People are reaching the 'acceptance' phase and I'm glad for it :)
Kayant  +   85d ago
Your's truly being Brad Wardell. Claiming in his own words -

"Suddenly, that Xbox One game that struggled at 720p will be able to reach fantastic performance at 1080p. For developers, this is a game changer."

"XBox One is the biggest beneficiary; it effectively gives every Xbox One owner a new GPU that is twice as fast as the old one. "

" As a result, that GPU will be getting pushed twice as hard as it previously was which means more heat on cards that might have only barely been cool enough when they were only being commanded by a single CPU core. We expect to see many marginal video cards setup to experience over heating issues as DirectX 12 suddenly pushes these cards beyond what the IHV had anticipated."

http://www.neowin.net/news/...
Eonjay  +   85d ago
"XBox One is the biggest beneficiary"

This should have been a warning sign right there. There is no way that the XBox one has higher performance thresholds then even very modest PC GPUs.
Volkama  +   85d ago
It is nice that he is enthusiastic.

I don't really understand why people are claiming Phil's recent comments about Dx12 were only referring to the development process being similar. Phil directly responded to a question from a gamer on twitter, not a developer afaik?
OpenGL  +   84d ago
The Xbox One will probably benefit the least from DirectX 12 because the API it already uses is likely what DirectX 12 is based upon. Game consoles always come with streamlined graphics APIs, the PS3 and 360 had customized versions of OpenGL and DirectX and the PS4 does as well so it stands to reason that the Xbox One does too.
Dolf045  +   85d ago
Exactly! The head of Xbox games division says something and people are like WTF! Thats not what the randoms on the internet said!

I don't remember MS coming out and saying it was going to be a big deal for anything other than PC. Just goes to show you how much conjecture on a massive scale can become "fact" if there's enough people screaming the same thing...
Eonjay  +   85d ago
Thats why I insisted that even though Microsoft has been honest about DX12, there is a lot of confusion clouding (no pun intended) their message.
Dolf045  +   85d ago
@Eonjay

True man it's the general ambiguity that has caused them so much trouble. If there wasn't so many blanks to fill in, they wouldn't have people losing the run of themselves with speculation.

But in some cases, like this where the alternative is to put out negative PR I can understand them keeping quiet
falviousuk  +   85d ago
trolls on N4G are maki g those claims, so once it is said in here it is gospel and all the sheep on here follow and start to quote it as though it was actual fact.

Low level websites included.
Gh05t  +   85d ago
"Touted by who? The author should have stated who exactly is making those claims."

You obviously didn't read the article because the next paragraph is:

"Stardock founder and CEO Brad Wardell (the man who stated that Direct X12 will be a game changer for Xbox One as it will double Xbox One GPU speed) has shared his views on this recent bold statement of Phil Spencer on DX12."
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DanielGearSolid  +   85d ago
I hate generalizations, but MANY Xbox fans have jumped on the dx12 game changer bandwagon.

And it's mainly because b4 Spencer, no Xbox execs stepped in to clarify dx12 will mainly benefit PCs.

I think they wanted to ride the dx12 wave
showtimefolks  +   85d ago
let's just move on xbox one was suppose to be better with Cloud and than Dx12 but now that Phil Spencer himself admitted that won't be the case

now xbox fans are saying who said those would make big difference lol

PS4 is more powerful than xbox one and this generation that will remain like this. Now saying xbox one can't be good(quite the opposite, i feel like xbox one will be neck and neck with ps4 moving forward)
medman  +   85d ago
@johndoe11211
Idiots. Idiots are making those claims. Always have been. Now Phil Spencer himself has burst their bubble built on clouds and stupidity, they are crying themselves to sleep nightly. Poor little sheep. So easily led to slaughter.
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LordDhampire  +   85d ago
Pretty much every xbox fan, but you
Kayant  +   85d ago
So basically nothing. iirc another dev has said the same things about mantle.

Why would people think it's development related(well expect if you're Mr.x believer) when Phil said "will unlock more capability for devs".

Of course development will likely be same when quite a few of these features are already on XB1 and it being a console for an update bringing "console-efficiency" to other platforms.
Illusive_Man  +   85d ago
The SDK updates will do more in terms of increasing the graphical fidelity and parity with most multiplats. 10% of GPU reserved is quite a bit, and we still don't have raw numbers for what that translate into. DX12 will help more with CPU multithreading but even more so with porting and development of DX12 games. That last part is probably the biggest thing that will help the XB1.
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snookiegamer  +   84d ago
Thing is...

Other than the tiny information available to everyone, you personally, know absolutely nothing about what DX12 will actually do for Xbox One until the games/results are seen.

Everything you type is 'Wishful Thinking' so quit reaching for the Stars...
stuna1  +   85d ago
IMO wouldn't better performance be indicative of faster and better development!? IMO I don't see you having one without the other! This is the purpose of updated API tools, too become more cost effective and less time consuming.
BX81  +   85d ago
I like that Phil addressed the situation. The Xb1 isn't the strongest console and that's fine. I personally game for the excellent stories and the ride. I'm not really huge on graphics as long as the game doesn't look like complete crap. Good job phil. We don't need any more hype men clouding what's real.
The_devils_chum  +   85d ago
Phil spenser had to bring the xb1 back down to earth literally. After dx12 was confirmed at dev conference and that it would or could reduce gpu workload by 50 % youtubers like crapgamer just went crazy saying with dx12 the xb1's is equal to having 6gb for GDDR5. And 1080p 60fps will be no problem. I listened to it the other day and its just hilarious by the sound of his voice you would have thought he won the lottery.
Ihatetrolls76  +   85d ago
Do you not have a life does your life revolve around hating ms just curious did ms beat you and rob you or something?
BX81  +   85d ago
Don't bother man. He has one bubble and his comment history shows why. He'll grow up when he's ready.
Flutterby  +   85d ago
@BX81

Go look at ihatetrolls comments and see if you think he will be keeping 3 bubbles for long , he has been trolling since the account was made.
Ihatetrolls76  +   85d ago
I don't think dx12 will make the xbox one 10x more powerful than ps4 but I think a lot of us will be surprised what it can do for the xbox. And I think it's sad that fanboys have to downplay it because non of us no exactly what it will do.
tgunzz  +   85d ago
I personally can't wait for fall 2015!! The debate will be over then... I do think that Spencer is down playing it, which is good (he is the calm before the storm). Everyone will be tuned in for it's official unveiling along with whatever tech demo/game they will have showing it's initial impact (be it halo 5 or something else). Fun times ahead....
quenomamen  +   84d ago
Duuuude ! I heard the X1 will be doing crazy shit like 910p or maybe even 925p !
--bienio--  +   85d ago
"Pc is the biggest beneficiary"
Roccetarius  +   85d ago
Yeah, it seems like people either forgot, or is completely ignoring that DX12 was mainly going to benefit PC. The Xbone may benefit a little from it as well, but far less than users on PC.
IrishSt0ner  +   85d ago
Same thing different angle. Wardells x2 GPU claim was ridiculous. Spencer cleared that right up. DX12 will improve Xbox One, just like better optimisation and cloud compute. Xbox One will never be as powerful as PS4. Sony can, and will, continue to optimise, and can also use cloud computation. There, no need to argue for the next 2 years.
KNWS  +   85d ago
Massive change? What does he mean by that. Of course Sony fans assume to know what he was thinking. It was tweet on twitter hardly a proper reply.

Directx12 is a new API. Not a game changer for xb1, i beg to differ. Its clearly better than directx11 so how is not a game changer?
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ConfettiYeti  +   85d ago
When I hear the words "Game Changer", my mind immediately thinks giant leaps In performance. Completely bridging "the gap" between the PS4 and XB1. That is a buzz word, made to make you click and get the Internet buzzing "Finally! Ha Sony fans now that we are on par we are going to own you with our games, no more Resolution gate!" So when the word game changer is thrown around, and then afterwards its being said no It won't completely bridge the "gap" (Why do we even care about this gap, both systems are putting out good looking games) you are going to get laughed at. Especially the people who backed it, like you KNWS. You look like a fool now.

Maybe you should give it a break, stop jumping on here to defend the XB1 and enjoy your experience it offers you. You will not change the minds of the many, and in some cases you look like an idiot.

http://i.imgur.com/yDFzgj9....
Kayant  +   85d ago
"Directx12 is a new API. Not a game changer for xb1, i beg to differ. Its clearly better than directx11 so how is not a game changer?" - Seriously how much are you going to ignore the reality in front of you. It is not a new API for XB1 it is also not the same API as DX11 on PC.

It's not a game changer for XB1 becomes it already has a lot of the substantial benefits of DX12. A game changer will PC level improvement of up improved 50% cpu usage that is not happening on the XB1 to that degree.
corvusmd  +   85d ago
I think we should all just sit back and wait to see what happens. All these articles show is that it's more complex than most of us think. It sounds like it should be simple, but if developers keep going back and forth over it, then we here at n4g stand no chance...if we are "right" about it, it's more a luck thing at this point. We can all find articles that back up our points online. There really is no point arguing this right now.

That being said, it'd be nice if DX12 offered a "massive boost" to X1 performance, but it doesn't "need" it at this point. My GUESS is that DX12 will help X1's API a little, being as it already has a low-level API (but apparently this one is slightly more efficient I hear). I also guess that X1 will benefit more from DX12 with the "other" tools. Being able to port in a matter of days and such, but more importantly, making it easier to take full advantage of eSRAM so that it's a blessing not a burden.
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KNWS  +   85d ago
Some of the reasons i think directx12 is going to be a game changer.

Albert Pannelo (Microsoft) before launch of the xb1

There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance? What does he mean by that?

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their [hardware] skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious."

Exactly i don't see the huge performance gap either after 8 months. If anything the small performance gap is closing. Notice, how he mentions directx.

Its not hardware, its a software graphics driver. Games can be better optimised with it and directx12 games should look nicer, cleaner, brighter and more polished. I just don't get how anyone can dismiss directx12 when its a going to be a new API with new next gen features all coming to xb1.
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Chevalier  +   85d ago
8 months is all you need to predict the future and downplay everything? Proof? Right you got none. You don't see a performance gap? Then why are ALL 3rd party games running worse on Xbone? So MS has the smartest people doesn't mean shit if they're not smart enough to make things easy for developers is the most important and basic step they missed, seems like a large oversight considering the magnitude of intelligence you suggest.

So all these great programmers and just what exactly came close to TLOU on last gen? Nothing came close which seems to be the opposite of that.
larrysdirtydrawss  +   85d ago
sony makes them better,and you need an eye doctor quick. and lay off the meth... gpgpu rendering is what the iceteam is working on and will get more performance than dx12 wich will give pc a decent bump anyways
Chevalier  +   85d ago
@Corvusmd

Wow so more secret sauce to be revealed in 2015?

Just like E3 was going to blow our minds?
Titanfall going to start the Xbone dominance?
Lower price?
Next months NPD right?
Cloud increase to 3-4 x PS4 power?

Glad your happy with your subpar results thus far and underperforming 3rd party games too. Just fantastic all round.
windblowsagain  +   85d ago
Secret sauce is everywhere.

MS has processors invisible inside xboxone. Using new camotech from the clouds.

Xboxone is underpowered. Just face it and enjoy the games you have.
GiantEnemyCrab  +   85d ago
So why are you here if you hate Xbox one? Just to troll? You obviously find no redeeming qualities so why even comment?
UtraAtomic  +   85d ago
N4G you got to love the comments on this site. Biased to the fullest!!!! lol
Gamer666  +   85d ago
No development tools are game changers.

It is all about the quality of games that ship.

And quality games is not equivalent to graphics fidelity. Quality games are about quality environments, gameplay, story, graphics, and sound...
headblackman  +   85d ago
wow. this sure is a sony site :-/
jnemesh  +   85d ago
No, it's just that there are far more Sony fans than MS fans (as shown by sales). Get used to it.
headblackman  +   85d ago
no. it's a pro sony site!
BitbyDeath  +   85d ago
The world is a pro Sony site.
DLConspiracy  +   85d ago
Be cool, hate Xbox and their fans. Join now. :p

https://p.gr-assets.com/540...
jnemesh  +   85d ago
Another day, another article about MS "secret sauce"!
IAM  +   85d ago
Enough talk just show
marcofdeath  +   85d ago
They did with FMS5 and FH2 that only used some parts of DX12. PS4 has not been able to match them, then there's QB and we know how that is looking don't we..
GiantEnemyCrab  +   85d ago
What game has Stardock done? I hope this isn't the Windows theme people.
kryteris  +   85d ago
*on console.
CawMasterX  +   85d ago
DirectX may enhance the X1 but it won't be some magic sauce that suddenly makes the console godly.
quenomamen  +   84d ago
pyramidshead
That was a persona breaking comment there by georgenoob, looks like he's come around to the fact that DX12 wasn't the secret sauce he was looking for after all. Top lel.

Georgenoob and MPoG already got exposed and owned by another user which was funny. Hell i'll upload it for the lulz!

http://i.imgur.com/yDFzgj9....

^ for anyone who's interested anyway.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.

I smell something burning.......
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5eriously  +   84d ago
LOL for all the biggest eXBONE idiots commenting in one picture!

@Bob, jouno's only printed what idiots wanted to hear as it generates hits for them. (wink)

@Artimidorus, bthurt is rife in that comment!
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BobBelcher  +   84d ago
Pretty sure No one official said DX12 was going to be a game changer... I take that back- journalists said this. Why- the clicks.
Artemidorus  +   84d ago
It's common sense, DX12 is a plus for Xbox One anyone who thinks different is butthurt. The Direct X histroy says so.
JMyers  +   84d ago
Why is there so much tolling on this article? how do these guys get in so early...?

Anyway, let's wait and see. I believe DX12 can offer improvements for both PS4 and XB1. Only time will tell.
PsVitaBuzz  +   84d ago
Seriously, are you people dyslexic? How did this get so out of context. PHIL said and confirmed what he meant by his statements, he stated that it WON'T be a massive difference in terms of developers utilising direct x 12, the code, the api. Meaning developers will be used to using the tool set and won't have difficulty using it. The original claim that in effect it's like the x1 getting a whole new gpu is FACT. It will double performance as mentioned by few developers. Some of you need to read properly....or go spec savers, seriously. Wtf
PsVitaBuzz  +   84d ago
"It will help developers on XBOX One. It’s not going to be a massive change ( in terms of development) but will unlock more capability for devs.( as in huge increase as stated by many developers)"
namEuser  +   84d ago
I honestly dont understand anymore about none of this! I think reading these articles or looking at N4G is making me dumb or something...how can any1 tell me games like "Quantim Break,Sunset Overdrive,Forza Horizon 2,etc etc...dont look good graphically? I mean, really? I dont give a frogs fat as$ if they all run @ 900p locked at 30fps....THE GAMES STILL RUN AND LOOOOOOK BEAUTIFUL! See how i didnt include multiplats, Sony fans need to quit overlooking thierselves, cause im tired of hearing it " Multiplats run better on the Ps4" ok, if u mean by "resolution" sure they do, right along with them framerate drops too...Xbox1 version may be running at a lower resolution "who really cares, i dont" and still look great, locked at a framerate with less drops...so again tell me how multiplats run better on a PS4? If im delusional and my Xbox One doesnt have great graphically looking games and run smooth, then some1 please shut me up. My personal opinion :)
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