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Microsoft are still too reliant on the Halo franchise

Videogamedebate writes:

E3 has long gone but Microsoft missed a vital opportunity to entice the current gaming crowd to their ill fated Xbox One. What could of been a showcase of upcoming showstopping Halo beaters turned in to a bunch of filler games leading up to Halo 5 and the Masterchief Collection. I couldn't help but feel that this wasn’t the risk taking Microsoft we seen bursting on the scene in the early 2000s. Nowadays their show fills me with cringeworthy moments of failure, making the viewing public sit on the edge of their seat, waiting for the next clanger to be dropped. As much as it hurts to say this, Halo was that clanger this time around.

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nicksetzer1763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

Ummm, not really. XB1 games we know so far.

Ryse, forza 5, killer instinct, dead rising 3, sunset overdrive, forza horizon 2, halo mcc halo 5, gears of war, quantum break, crackdown, phantom dust, scalebound, fable legends, D4, etc.

Essentially half of those are new IP, and kinda makes the "all MS has is halo" argument moot.

iamnsuperman763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

I think Microsoft's over reliance on Halo is evident of Microsoft's non gaming ventures with Halo. There is a TV show and there is news that a film is coming. I get Halo is big but Microsoft needs to be careful here and not Halo out consumers (this with the gaming side is a lot of Halo coming within the next 1 and a half years). They should spread it out a bit. Maybe push other franchises they own

nicksetzer1763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

You can't argue too much reliance on halo though with that many other exclusives, many of which are new IP. Maybe you just don't understand what "reliant" means...

@shen of course halo is the killer app, that does not mean that MS is relying on it and offer "nothing but filler"... this article is not presenting what you said at all, it is saying "all the xb1 games suck, so hopefully halo is good." Also may I add gears of war and fable both came after halo and were killer apps ... it's not just HALO FOR 13 YEARS like you like to pretend.

@mr swank 5 is pretty close to 7.5 no? Also, considering we are not even 1 year in 5 new AAA franchises is pretty impressive. Certainly not happening on some other consoles...

abzdiine762d ago

"Microsoft are still too reliant on the Halo franchise"

and they will always be.. as long as the franchise doesn't lose in quality over the episodes like Gears of War does they should keep'em going...
but i have to agree that they are too reliant on it and they always put it in frontline.
i think it's the most successful franchise they are owning so i kinda understand that.

sonarus762d ago

Its clear without a doubt that MS has far more games than just Halo. But even many years after Bungie has left it is still their number one game. Since the original Xbox Halo is still the Xbox franchise number one game. Thats a twenty yr reign. I think you can only make that same argument with Nintendo and mario

4Sh0w761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

"I think you can only make that same argument with Nintendo and Mario"

lol, yeah and there are only 3 brands of consoles and Mario and Halo games are hugely popular iconic games that both company's would be fools not to deliver new iterations to the fanbase and while sony may not have 1 character that represents their brand in reality they still support a couple of franchises like Uncharted and God of War in particular as if they did.

That said it falls on death ears to say Microsoft are too reliant on Halo when you consider other game franchises that haven't been around nearly as long are already very close or far surpassed the Halo franchise in new iterations. Now looking at the other major titles on Xbox of course Halo is still the flagship game because that is what popularized the console, if I'm Microsoft I don't shy away from that identity the only thing I do to enhance the brand is to say Halo will continue to evolve and be an integral part of the xbox brand until the fans think it ran its course BUT we also have plenty of other exclusive franchises to rely on like Gears, Fable, Perfect Dark, Forza, Killer Instinct, DR3, Alan Wake, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Kameo, Banjo Kazooie, Conker, Phantom Dust etc with new IP's introduced too like Ryse, Project Spark, Titanfall(for now), Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, D4 and Scalebound and more coming.

Seriously, given the facts this is just clickbait.

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Shen3763d ago

The argument was that Halo was and still is the killer app for Microsoft, which after 13 years is surely testament to the lack of huge, blockbuster games it has to offer.

mhunterjr763d ago

Gears of War, has definitely been huge for MS, so has Forza..

LAWSON72762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

Let's just ignore the games that have came to Xbox 360 and not PS3

Gears of War
Fable (1 was good, 2 was okay)
Alan Wake
Banjo Kazooie N&B (great game despite not being the platformer everybody wanted)
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Tales of Vespiria (PS3 only in JP)
Crackdown
Forza
Forza Horizon
L4D
PGR
Shadow Complex
Splosion Man
Viva Pinata
Witcher 2

I don't care if these are huge block buster games, I have played all of these and they are mostly great games. Games don't have to be popular to be good

Legacy212762d ago

Enlighten me how microsoft has no blockbuster games besides halo

MrSwankSinatra763d ago

"Essentially half of those are new IP"

5 out of 15 is half?? Okay....

Lawboy2763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

He didn't want to name the new ip because u guys would say that they all sucked

Max
Project totem
Ori
Lococycle
Fighter within
Fantasia

So what's that 11 out of 21
Not to even count any indie games by [email protected]

MrSwankSinatra763d ago

@lawboy Ohhhhh so now indies matter but when it comes to playstation it's just an indiestation, hypocrisy at it's finest.

randomass171763d ago

*raises hand* I think indies are great for either platform. If anything, at least now Xbox fans are becoming vocal about how good indies are, even if some of them were writing off the games as sub par or irrelevant. The more support, the better if you ask me.

Lawboy2763d ago

@ mr swank

None of those are indies all first party studios other than fighter within Fantasia and ori...but ori published by Microsoft studios...fighter within ubisoft and fantasia I don't know who is publishing it but it's not an indie...they may be small budget games but none of these games are independently developed hence they are not indie

bcrazy18762d ago

He said essentially lol just two more games and he would've been at half of 15 lol melts not be technical now lol

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Lawboy2763d ago

I hear u...I think ppl just like halo...and IMO that is okay...I love halo and gears and I hope they don't stop making them....but that's just my opinion

CJDUNCAN762d ago

I can see why they say MS is too reliant on Halo, that's the only game that really gets a big buzz going with them. Whereas Sony has truly stellar IPs and always are innovating for the next big one.

Sony has had Uncharted, God of War, The Last of Us, Infamous, and now The Order.

They are always pushing the envelope with their IPs. Innovation is necessary in gaming.

Whereas with MS you know exactly what's coming, Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable. Now they add another shooter with Sunset. The only innovative IP they have coming is Quantum Break.

Sure Halo 5 looks to be epic but it won't be anything we haven't seen before.

Fyflin762d ago

Care to explain how vastly different Uncharted 3 is from the first one, besides the obvious graphical improvements? Same with God of War, or even Infamous: Second Son?

CJDUNCAN762d ago

@Fyf,

those are a series in games, so there isn't that much of a leap in how it plays. What my point is, is how Sony's idea of a new IP is groundbreaking and usually a Triple A type game.

The came out of the gates announcing The Order which is looking like an instant hit, whereas Microsoft is at a standstill pumping out another Halo and sure enough Gears of War.

That's why I'm shocked pleasantly about Quantum Break, it's microsoft's first time really going in a daring direction.

As for genre's, everything under the sun has been done before if we're being honest about gaming.

One of my all time favorite games is The Last of Us, but it's a linear action game. But what it does as far as innovation is the tone and storytelling. It wasn't groundbreaking gameplay wise, but it was a great experience.

That's what Sony does TO ME better than Microsoft, and I'm a microsoft enthusiast.

combatcash762d ago

@cjduncan. Just to be clear I have a ps4 and not an xbox one. Youre talking about innovation and the fact is most of sonys games are not innovative well besides LBP. The games you list are great except for infamous it was a bit of a disappointment. Youre mentioning the order like its a proven series one thing that it has going for it is great graphics, we'll have to wait and see if its (innovative) at all. MS doesnt receive any credit for the new games/franchises they put out they dont all succeed but you can see that they do try. Alan wake is a perfect example that game was full of quality but just didnt sell, not much you can do about it. One thing I have noticed though is that sony fans are more likely to try sonys new offerings

Legacy212761d ago

@cj get out of here with your fanboy stuff. Infamous is hardly a proven series averaging a low 80 on all 3 games. Uncharted and last of us ill give you that. LBP is a game you play with your gf or kids. God of war is great but ascension sucked. The order isnt even out so can't say its proven itself. MS brought ryse, quantum break, sunset overdrive, ori, phantom dust, killer instinct, scale bound, titanfall are sll new I.ps microsoft took risks with same with tales of vespeira, lost odyssey, blue dragon etc. Then they got gears, halo, forza, fable so stop with the ms just recycles 3 franchises cuz sony is guilty of it to. Get your fan boy nonesense pack it up and take a hike

CJDUNCAN760d ago

@Legacy, I'll forgive your misguided opinion. Me being a Sony fanboy yet owning an Xbox 1? Did I even mention Little Big Planet? That's not even my style of game.

MS does exactly as you said, they rehash the same franchises, how can you say that's not true? And who said anything about The Order being a success already? I said it's a promising title that looks to be the next big franchise.

My whole point is that Sony isn't afraid to take a chance and Microsoft continues to play it safe. I look forward to Quantum Break, as it's a breath of fresh air from Microsoft.

All you had to do was check my comment history before typing, it would've saved you from your own ignorance.

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djplonker762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

In the past 12/13 years alone we have had / going to have

halo

halo remake

halo mcc

halo 2

halo 2 mcc

halo 3

halo 3 mcc

halo odst

halo reach

halo wars

halo 4

halo 4 mcc

spartan assault

halo 5

and you can say the same to a smaller extent about fable forza and gears of war!

SixZeroFour762d ago

why did you separate each of 1-4 from mcc into a separate title when its all shipping on one disc just to pad the list? and if you want to grasp at straws, do we need to do the same with killzone and god of war titles to make a comparison?

the mcc and the tv series are fan service...they dont rely on halo, it just helps

Gamer666762d ago

We can play that game with a game like God of War as well:

God of War
God of War - GoW Collection
God of War - GoW Saga
God of War II
God of War II - GoW Collection
God of War II - GoW Saga
God of War Betrayal
God of War Chains of Olympus
God of War Chains of Olympus - GoW Saga
God of War Chains of Olympus - GoW Origins
God of War III
God of War III - GoW Saga
God of War Ghosts of Sparta
God of War Ghosts of Sparta - SoW Saga
God of War Ghosts of Sparta - GoW Origins
God of War Origins Collection
God of War Assenscion

It seems that MS isn't the only one riding the IP gravy train!

Magicite762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

Stop mentioning D4, nearly nothing is known about it, its the same as mentioning The Last Guardian.
OT: MS does not have variety of amazing 1st party studios, of course they must rely on the little yet best they got.
And theres no other mascots for Xbox besides Master Chief, both Nintendo and Sony got tons of them now.

mkis007762d ago

This, is why outside of the US there is no Xbox brand recognition. No mascots. They have banjo and conker, and yet they dont use them enough for them to be associated with MS.

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ZodTheRipper763d ago

Well I'm still reading "I'll buy a Xbox One when Halo ships" a lot... so MS has a good reason to rely on this IP. It's certainly their biggest franchise by far just like Uncharted is for Sony or Mario for Nintendo.

Hellsvacancy763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

Sony have other games to fall back on though, Gran Turismo is a big system seller, as is Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy, yes I know those last two games are mulitplat games, but they're by very nature associated with the Playstation and will sell extremely well on the platform all over the world and move many systems

After Halo what is Microsfts next BIG thing?

MichaelLito79763d ago

Gears of War, Crackdown, Perfect Dark and Conkers bad fur day, Alan Wake.

DigitalRaptor762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

@ MichaelLito79

Gears of War is 2016.

Crackdown is 2016.

Perfect Dark is not even announced yet, so count that out for 2015.

Conker's Bad Fur Day is the same.

Remedy are working on Quantum Break, getting that ready for 2015. Alan Wake won't be until 2017 or 2018, unless Remedy has become a two-team studio in the past year.

JBSleek763d ago

I mean I don't know exactly where to start with this article.

I think MS reliance on Halo isn't as drastic as the article makes it out to be. Sure Halo is the defining Xbox franchise but it would be no different for Mario being that for Nintendo.

Also, I don't think saying that Xbox Live isn't the best online experience and has been surpassed by Steam and PSN is weird too. Steam is the best digital store period and it easily wins in that category. PSN is no better than Xbox Live and having first party games all have dedicated servers I think gives Xbox Live the edge.

That being said if the author feels that Halo is all that Xbox One has going for it in terms of games I do respect the opinion, I just disagree.

Hellsvacancy763d ago (Edited 763d ago )

We've had "Enough Mario Games Already"...... Already http://n4g.com/news/1412112...

Two of the big three have mascots (Mario/Master Chief)

I HONESTLY wouldn't know what mascot to pick for Sony, I don't think of Nathan Drake when I think Playstation

JasonKCK762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

So basically you're saying there are way too many Halo games? Then you go on to praise Uncharted, which is coming up on it's 6th game. So by your logic, Sony should stop making Uncharted, God of War, SOCOM, Killzone, Resistance, Singstar, GT, and the R&C games.

mkis007762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

The difference is the variety of games released between these major franchises, xbox 360 never had that.

between every Uncharted, God of War, SOCOM, Killzone, Resistance, Singstar, GT, and R&C game there are games like heavy rain, LBP, starhawk, twisted metal, Motorstorm, heavenly sword, sly cooper, playstation all stars, modnation racers, beyond, infamous etc...

They may be some one-off games, but they do a lot to keep the variety fresh.

OsirisBlack762d ago

This is pretty much incorrect on every level imaginable. MS relies on Halo and to some degree Gears but outside of those two games they really do not have anything else that makes you say oh yea XBOX gotta have one. Then all of their exclusive content is either timed or moneyhatted they have no true 1st party support outside of Halo and Gears. Yes they have other games only for their system but lets look at facts.

Halo,Gears and Titanfall are all considered dudebro games and only cater to one audience. Then you have Fable where only the first game was really good the others have been mediocre at best.

Now yes nintendo uses mario but to a much more extensive extent than MS uses MC. Mario has parties rides in Karts Plays Tennis and Fights in brawls. Even though its all still mario there are many different types of experiences associated with him. But outside of that you can still generally find Zelda,Metroid,Pikmin,Kirby,DK and other types of gameplay experiences ... Splatoon that allow nintendo to rely much less on Mario than MS relies on Halo.

If I don't like shooters my options are limited on a MS machine but you cannot lump Nintendo in with them because it does not suit your argument.

JBSleek762d ago

I like how you say my opinion is wrong yet then proceed to spit out your opinion yet act like it's the truth.

You are the worse type of person...

gamerfan0909762d ago

Kirby, Pikmin, DK are platformers on a box with a lot of platformers. If I wanna use your same argument with fable there hasn't been a good Metroid in years. You're using a preference argument to try to stat your claims as fact. I can name 20 360 exclusives or exclusives that were exclusive for the first 3 years or so that I played that all offered unique experiences.

DARK WITNESS762d ago (Edited 762d ago )

" If I don't like shooters my options are limited on a MS machine but you cannot lump Nintendo in with them because it does not suit your argument. "

... and if I don't like Mario and have no interest in party games and kiddy stuff, how is Nintendo not included?

If I look at it the other way, If I like FPS shooters my options are limited on a Nintendo machine.

OsirisBlack762d ago

@JB it is a FACT that Nintendo makes more varied first party titles than MS that is not an opinion.

@Gamerfan0909 Yes there are a ton of platformers on nintendo and family friendly games there are other game types Zombie U and the forthcoming Splatoon but I do see your point.

@DarkWitness love the name but lets not act like MS isn't the dudebro system.

I hate feeling like I have to say it but I do own EVERY current gen platform PS4,Wii U and XB1 and am looking forward to several games on each system. XB1 I really want Ori and SunsetOverdrive.

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marijanFTW763d ago

of course it is. i mean every year we see some halo game

AllAboutGaming762d ago

I'm not a fan of Halo myself. I agree that Microsoft needs to expand its portfolio of huge games. I think they should be exploring new IP. I was very disappointed that Black Tusk got pulled from their game to make another Gears games. Certainly, they could wait to make Gears and see if they could create a new blockbuster franchise from the ground up.