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The Order: 1886 and a Loss of Agency

Christopher Cross of Infinite Respawns writes: I’ve been floored by everything shown to me of The Order: 1886. It is a gorgeous game with inventive weapons and a story that is both intriguing and entertaining. My excitement dropped a little when I realized that the E3 2014 trailer was doing what all the other trailers had done. And that frightens me. The Order: 1886 is taking away the player’s agency on a frequent basis. It is tearing away the controller, in exchange for cinematics. It is essentially nullifying its reasoning to be a video game.

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iamnsuperman774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

Surely it is just a new branch of storytelling in games. An issue with every game out there that has a story is you have this cut scene then you do the level (which usually involves killing waves of bad guys) or doing the objective for then the cutscene to appear (which is what really drives the story forward). Some game do it differently (having story elements within the gameplay via chit chat, see The Last of Us) and some don't

I see this as a halfway point between what is the norm and those games that are synonymous with Quantic Dream. The question is will it work and quite frankly we can't really comment on this until we play the darn game.

UltimateMaster774d ago

I'm guessing The Order 1886 would be cinematic similar to Uncharted. Somewhat linear but never a dull moment.

XiSasukeUchiha774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

The Order 1886 has the most amount of replay value because it's good movie:)

Clogmaster773d ago

Many people seem to love Telltale Games' Walking Dead and Wolf Among Us.

Why are high budgets games forced to follow the same gameplay patterns as others?

I don't like Telltale Games, because I want more control, but I won't slam their games because I know I'm not their audience.

nucky64774d ago

so, when "the order" tries to do something different - it's criticized.
and, when "the order" shows solid 3rd person gameplay, it's criticized for not doing something new......

I guess "the order" will be hated no matter what...go figure.

Jeff257774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

I think most of those comments are coming from the same ones who just want another Halo and Gears game. I however am very intrigued by what has been shown so far and I love alternate history type stuff as well. I will be buying this when it comes out and I know I will most likely enjoy it too. I also hope that more developers step out of their comfort zone and try some new things. Whether it be with new IPs or with older IPs trying to push the games in some new direction or concept.

xx4xx774d ago

Yes. Let's blame Marcus Fenix and Master Chief for the linear story, QTEs, and cinematic 'gameplay'. Somehow this is all their fault.

nucky64774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

something else that I don't see a lot of people ever talking about is the atmosphere/ambiance of a game - how it pulls you into the experience. great gameplay is a given, but I really want a game to pull me in...to do this a game doesn't need to just look great but has to have outstanding sound effects and a musical score that reflects each particular area/moment of the game. it's these types of things that have me looking forward to games like "the order; witcher3; DA:I, dying light and bloodborne.
I get what you're saying about innovation - but I think refinement of the basics (sound,overall look of the game; and, gameplay) can make a very successful game as well.
thanks for the interesting reply!

marlinfan10774d ago

every game gets hated on by the opposing fanboys these days

Chapter11774d ago

There's nothing "different" about The Order. Its a generic cover shooter with a generic story that thinks its a movie.

johndoe11211774d ago

generic story?? really now?? Could you give us a rundown of the plot seeing that you've obviously played and finished the game or knows someone in RaD.

nucky64774d ago

thanks for showing how accurate my post is, chapter11.

WeAreLegion774d ago

Can we not? Just leave it alone and play the game when it comes out.

ginsunuva774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

But then how will gaming sites stay alive without site hits?

Oh wait, there's already too many gaming sites out there; killing some off won't be a bad thing.

truefan1774d ago (Edited 774d ago )

The author makes solid points, The Order is a VIDEO GAME that is trying to be more movie than game. [email protected] has even said it with this quote "Gameplay is something that... it's a game, we make games, we can't get around it" That's a sad statement coming from the developers of a VIDEO GAME.

OsirisBlack774d ago

And anyone with common sense that is not a fanboy took that statement to mean exactly what the man said and not turn it into some negative speaking point. Here let me clarify for you. "It's a game, we make games, we can't get around it."

Idiot proof translation

We make video games it will have great gameplay.

I swear Fanboys are the worst.

Also posted this in the other thread but for all of you talking about how bad the game must be .... dig deeper.

https://twitter.com/AndreaP...

Lots of awards at E3 I cannot wait until this game releases and all of the crows fall from the sky and land on your plates.

Clogmaster773d ago

How about videogames are an evolving medium that can engage different people in different ways.

I'm curious how you deal with the diversity in life.

Different types of food.

Different types of music.

Different types of movies.

Your life must be a nightmare.

Malphite773d ago

That's Pigeonholing. Video games are just a medium for developers to do whatever they want to do with it. It doesn't have to follow you personal definition of video games.

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