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Dead Rising 3 Dev: 60FPS Not Happening Cause Higher-Ups - Most Probably - Do Not Care Enough For PC

DSOGaming writes: "When Capcom announced that Dead Rising 3 was coming to the PC, a lot of PC gamers raised their fist in the air while shouting out loud. And when the Japanese company revealed that the PC version would be ideal for a 30FPS experience, pretty much all of them cursed them for its laziness. And – surprise surprise – it appears that this FPS issue is basically a result of laziness as a dev confirmed that it would be possible to overcome it, provided the Japanese company put enough effort to this port." (Dead Rising 3, PC)

XiSasukeUchiha  +   606d ago
Capcom you should've known from the last years E3! This what I call BS!
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nicksetzer1  +   605d ago
Hmm, that guy is going to be fired. Who trashes the company they work for? What a moron.
Razputin  +   605d ago
Who trashes the company they work for? What a moron.

A person who has balls. People who voice their opinion and don't care about getting fired are the ones that will succeed because they are actually happy at what they do.

I go to every job not caring if I get fired that same minute, I know I'll find another job as I do it very well.

Its good he is voicing his opinion because he knows the issues and the lack of effort Capcom is putting forth with this port.

They are going to give us a lackluster product, well its going to show in their sales, and those people like this guy, are the ones that will get fired for they higher-up's decision. That is why.
Rowdius_Maximus  +   605d ago
I agree with razputin, you gotta grow a pair and stand up for what's right. Also hopefully modders can fix this trash port
nicksetzer1  +   605d ago
@razputin I truly hope 95% of your comment is a joke or typo. He is publically trashing the people paying him. Not to mention, he say "most likely" as he has no clue how or why these decisions were made. What if the engine that they already spent millions to make only runs 30fps. (like dead nation) name me some other games that manufacture new engines for each console they release on. There is no question he has the right to question the practice, even fight against it, but going on public record saying all this is unprofessional. Not at all a way to get anywhere in life, and certainly not a recipe for "success" as you claim. Let me know how it works for you. Having an opinion and fighting for it is one thing, being an ass about it is a whole other.
Not saying his opinion is wrong or right, but his method of approach is absolutely wrong, and lacking information to support it.
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sinspirit  +   605d ago

That is not at all how it works, and as even more confirmation about how wrong you are about how it works, this developer for the game itself is telling us that it's not going to be native 60fps not because it is difficult but because the higher ups don't want to focus on the product and fix it they just want to quickly port it on another platform for some quick cash.
user5669510  +   605d ago
I been blacklisted capcom. People keep buying their games like they really care about their customers. A lot of gamers these days just are blind to these tactics. The nickel and dime to the tee, they never listen to their customers, and they treat their employees like sh!t why you think most their talent left.

People are going to still buy this even though they balantly treat people like sh!t
choujij  +   605d ago
Capcom? Pfft, more like CapFrames.
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TheGreatAndPowerful  +   605d ago force PC users to play 30fps is a f***ing slap in the face.
cyclindk  +   605d ago
What? You've got three Titans in your rig? 30 fps, you're welcome.

I'd be peesed.
xX-StolenSoul-Xx  +   605d ago
I'm sure a mod somewhere will fix the cap.
HappyWithOneBubble  +   605d ago
I don't understand why PC gamers want to play this garbage anyway. Dead Rising series never been good. If I were you PC gamers just pirate the game.
sinspirit  +   605d ago
You can actually take the cap off, but they didn't bother to fix the game so that the physics and other aspects are basically doubled when you unlock it to 60fps. So when unlocked it is basically broken. FromSoftware had practically no PC experience and they listened to PC gamers to release DS1 on PC which they said would have some issues but those weren't that bad and then for DS2 they fixed it and made a really solid PC release. Capcom and the Dead Rising team already have PC experience and they're doing this crap.
Meltic  +   605d ago
Now i understand why there is Pirates out there. Cant trust the developers anymore why support them then ???. Just like in this case...
Sano64  +   605d ago

Fixing a 30FPS cap is a little more then the average modder can do. It's more complicated then it sounds, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Someone needs to start a patition on Capcom-Unity and make it clear to the suits that pc gamers wont buy this gimped version unless they fix this.
Magicite  +   605d ago
anybody else noticed how bad are many japanese devs/pubs doing lately?
SilentNegotiator  +   605d ago
Japanese multiplat devs...give PC some love for once.
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Kavorklestein  +   605d ago
And some say Consoles are dying when compared to PC... This proves that in the mind's eye of most dev's now a days that the most profitable/safe place to launch your titles will always be console.
Sure, steam has greenlighting for indies, and Cd Projeckt Red shows their love for the PC, but most devs and publishers know that consoles are the place to make the bread, and PC's are the place to add the butter.
Now if devs don't use the options at their disposal to "Add the butter" to the PC versions of games, then yes, I agree with the sentiment of "Shame on them"

And Japanese devs are certainly the most guilty of lazy porting.
DialgaMarine  +   606d ago
Who wants to bet that, because M$ had such a huge hand in this game's funding, they simply don't want to put the already shitty XBone version to shame. M$ is very notorious for crap like that.
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Lawboy2  +   606d ago
What why do u automatically feel it's Microsoft.....first thing a couple weeks ago when this was announced many ppl said that this wasn't Microsoft trying to support PC it was all of the sudden Microsoft should get all the blame....second off I'm pretty sure there not worried about the xbox one version it's been out for almost a year....and everyone knows the PC is a lot stronger than the xbox one so it would be no surprise for it to run better on the PC

So please stop starting/spreading rumors just because u hate Microsoft
Deadpoolio  +   605d ago
Really cause M$ are the ones who feel the need to have a parity clause for ALL 3rd party games...Are you that stupid that you can't figure out why people would immediately assume that M$ would pull their parity clause crap in order to not have a Xbox 720p exclusive look bad.....
starchild  +   605d ago
The parity clause is not about how games look and has nothing to do with graphical parity.

There were plenty of games last generation that looked better on PS3. Most games this generation also look better on PS4. These things would be impossible if there really was a clause that forced graphical parity.

Some of you have misunderstood what that clause was about.
Eonjay  +   605d ago
Who can really say for sure, but I think we can all agree that something is seriously wrong here.
Kavorklestein  +   605d ago
Parity clause only exists in a sony fan's dreams. And was part of their defense last gen when Xbox 360 had better looking multi plats. (Not by Much)
PS4 is having better looking multiplats (not by much) and yet some are still screaming parity clause?

Goes to show that sony fans can't/won't be happy even when they have a fun game to play, and to go a step further, aren't even gonna be happy even when they DO have the better version of a game.

They must just want to watch the world burn?
maybe not, but seriously, parity clause isn't real.

Cell processor was real. Lazy devs are real. ^(Capcom)

This gen, ersam is real. and GDDR5 is real.
NO excuses by/from whiny bitches please.

This guy at Capcom is brave, and obviously saw capcom as a sinking ship of sorts to be willing to risk his job.
^Which shouldn't be news to anyone.
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sinspirit  +   605d ago
The parity clause exists. It has nothing to do with graphics. It means that a game can't launch on another platform and then come out on X1; it must launch on both platforms at the same time, or first on X1. It also didn't exist around 360. So, you made that up.

Microsoft funded Dead Rising 3. So, yes, they have a say in its production as well as its PC port.
larrysdirtydrawss  +   605d ago
you say its not by much in ps4s favor,its more than that,but it could be worse if devs fully exploited the extra power of ps4.. but devs gotta split their time/resources/$$$ when you develop for 3+ platforms. not any platform is gonna be fully taken advantage of because of that,if they did,youd see a much bigger advantage in ps4 multiplats than there already is.common sense
Activemessiah  +   606d ago
So basically they're treating PC users like peasants.... I sense... irony somewhere in there.
Pandamobile  +   606d ago
No, you see, the problem here is that they think they can just dump an Xbox One game on Steam without any real work put into it (i.e, changing whatever systems are tuned for 30 FPS and making them capable of handling a variable framerate, like a game should).
Qrphe  +   605d ago
That's the story of most multiplats on PC though, not just Capcom (who generally make good PC ports anyhow).
Razputin  +   605d ago
LOL. Sadly most companies are just dumping games on Steam with very little effort. And they are getting away with it.

I'm a huge Steam user, over 1000 games on it and counting, but the amount of crap they throw on there is just devs/publishers -- if they self publish, trying to get a quick buck.

I don't support early access, I will buy the game once its finished because to me the bugs, and such will just offset my pleasure and enjoyment. And any game that is just a straight to PC port I won't buy at full price. Any game like pre-2005 for the most part didn't have that many graphical settings or features and are thrown on the PC with a GUI to add more resolution support.

I think this is the main issue, us as horrible consumers and Steam just letting almost anything be thrown in there with absolutely no quality control.
starchild  +   605d ago

Nah, the vast majority of multiplats run extremely well for me on the PC and are far better than the versions I could buy for my consoles.

Even the odd game like Dark Souls that is messed up on release is usually fixed very quickly by the community. Now the PC version of Dark Souls is BY FAR the best version of the game.
mhunterjr  +   606d ago
From a dollars and sense stand point, I wouldn't see the logic it putting too much extra work into a PC version. Chances are the title won't see a hug bump in sales when it's released on PC, so the added work to reach 60fps won't be appreciated by many.

Also, I don't think the developers are particularly talented in the area of performance. yes dr3 has a lot going on at once, but there are several launch games that look and perform a lot better .
Mr Tretton  +   605d ago
How the hell hard is it to make a game 60 fps? Every damn PC game is 60 fps. I don't think it's some magical secret. If they can't do it because of the engine like they said, then they made one shitty engine.

Forget PC, console players want 60 fps too if they can get it. Capcom is stupidly out of touch with the market, and Japan for the most part hasn't a clue about the gaming industry at large, today.
mhunterjr  +   605d ago
That's the thing... The engine is pretty shitty... It's an in house engine, made by a small team for a game intended for the 360... Look at how Sunset Overdrive can do similar things with better results.

Making aiming run at 60fps isn't as simple as throwing it at better hardware. It was designed to be a 30fps game.
wtopez  +   605d ago

Actually it will probably see a huge bump in sales immediately when it's released on PC and it will also have what can be called the "slow burn" factor. See, once it's on Steam, you can bet that it will be featured in Steam sales for years to come and those make a ton of money for the publisher. There was an instance when a developer made their income for the past 6 years in only 8 hours on a Steam sale.

You gotta remember that once you buy a game on PC, it'll only age backwards. Let's say that you change the GPU of your PC in 3 years. By that time you can probably run Dead Rising 3 and many other games in native 4k, while the X1 version stays the same. If you don't see the point of doing a good PC port, then you are ignoring a lot of facts that suggest the opposite.
mhunterjr  +   605d ago
Your right, I should have replaced the word sales with profits.

The race to the bottom economics of steam and similar services is exactly THE REASON a company would release a PC version so much later and put little effort into it.

Those steam sale profits are typically the success story of lower budget games.
You are more speaking to the merits of being a PC gamer, not the merits of porting a game to PC.
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SilentNegotiator  +   605d ago
I'm not buying Dead Rising 3 on PC...I'm not even sure if I'll be able to save my game with Dead Rising 2 in a month because of the GFWL crap (they said they're going to patch it, but they didn't even give a time frame).

It would make plenty of sense for them to put some effort into their PC versions and regain some customer trust.
elhebbo16  +   606d ago
If they wont care then I wont as well :), You don't need my money I guess if you dont care for the needs of PC gamers.
Snookies12  +   605d ago
Yeah, because of this, I'll wait till I can find a Steam sale and buy it for like 10 dollars lol.
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Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   605d ago
Just pirate it. Capcom doesn't deserve to see a penny for their laziness. If that means they go under, well too bad for them. Should have known something like that would happen.
Qrphe  +   605d ago
If you already got it on X1, consider the tprrent a late cross buy title.
Malphite  +   606d ago
"So stuff like this happens when something like 60FPS isn’t considered in advance, but the engine is too hard to change– you have to basically rewrite large components, then push out extra QA."

So? If you have to rewrite some code then do it. It's your freaking job. They are basically saying they want to sell the game to more people and are not willing to put some extra work into it to make it worth our money. Thanks Capcom, but no thanks.
Master-H  +   605d ago
Well at least it will be 30 fps locked, unlike the xbox version.
starchild  +   605d ago
With vsync. :)
dougr  +   605d ago
So they want PC people to pirate this then? That's what I'm hearing.
cee773  +   605d ago
They would pirate it either way :)
SlapHappyJesus  +   605d ago
My Steam account says otherwise.
Th3o  +   605d ago
although I don't completely disagree with you, I gaurantee you most modern day pirates eventually do buy the game.

Even if it is during sales.

Also piracy has gotten to the point where it's slowly becoming null....Most of the time you can get the game cheaper than the time and effort it takes to pirate it if you wait for sale or look at different regions..

Also don't forget that Alan Wake the series was saved by PC....which was also a VERY pirated game.

Anyways, this game is a pass for me until some1 mods it.

Until then, capcom u take no moneys from me:D
Are_The_MaDNess  +   605d ago
games are always pirated, tho with the lack of demos and such these days and trailers that paint a different picture from the full product.
as many many people have said before, piracy is a service issue.
people pay for what they want and what the like.

if the companies say stuff like this, there will be more piracy than if it was a good game.

say Skyrim of example, it got pirated all the time yes. but after now almost 3 years, its still on the top sellers list every month on Steam. (tho it has fallen a bit in the last two months down the the 21nd place)

if the companies can listen and start treating their consumers with respect and just for once try to make a good/perfect game, they would have a much larger sale numbers and piracy wouldnt be a problem.

its like Netflix VS Popcorntime, PT got all the latest series and movies out long before they are out on DVD and its all free (tho its still using torrents) yet the service is better, the quality is better and they are a much larger library than Netflix.

Piracy is a service issue, have good service and treat people with respect and dignity and you can go far.
Dynasty2021  +   605d ago
Piracy happens on consoles too you idiot.

GTA 5 was available for 360 from Piratebay for like a week before release.
cee773  +   605d ago
oh wow

"Piracy happens on consoles too you idiot.

GTA 5 was available for 360 from Piratebay for like a week before release."

My point exactly,except well the idiot part, and 9 times out of 10 they used they pc to Hack the console and download the pirated console game in the first place if you dont see the irony and correlation in that your feeble. console pirates are likely pc pirates and pc pirates are likely console pirates vise get it.

and the the rest

Im not talking about you apparently im talking about pirates in general who pirate it and not buy it because you know those exist right.
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mydyingparadiselost  +   605d ago
Sounds like the community will be finishing the job on a shoddy PC port.... AGAIN.
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kingduqc  +   605d ago
This is like a restaurant wondering why no one want to eat at their place but when you go there to eat and ask a medium rare steak and they serve you boiled chicken and tell you it's still food so you better be happy with it

And then comes the waitress with the bill and she is stunned that you don't pay tips (aka buying)... Many companies take little time to do A propre port but they fail to realize that serving the client come first and after that the money will flow. They don't deserve my money and certainly won't get it. Might try to game tho if you know what I mean.
Bodge  +   605d ago
It's scenarios like this that encourages piracy. You don't reward a shitty developer for putting out a terrible port.
Shinuz  +   605d ago
I don't pirate games anymore but all I can say is "AMEN!!"
Vegamyster  +   605d ago
That's okay, I'll keep my money since they don't care about it.
tee_bag242  +   605d ago
Yep. Ill do the same. Their loss.
Codey47  +   605d ago
Which has been the trend for many's the point I've been trying to get across in many of my past PC posts, here.

It's just not worth the extra effort nowadays. Developers are going where the money is, consoles.
Hence why Rockstar ditched Red Dead Redemption for the PC (even though Rockstar claims it were piracy fears due to the omission)despite a 600k signed petition.
I'm actually surprised they're releasing GTA5.

John Carmack and the team at id software(a PC centric developer)
creates an engine, namely idtech5 and megatexture.
A PC doesn't need texture streaming because of their ability to have a mass amount of RAM onboard.
That alone should've set alarm bells ringing for the PC crowd.

Nowadays you only have a select few developers that seem dedicated to the PC platform for example Valve and Crytek. Even Sony seem dedicated to the PC platform, as of late...more so than Microsoft.

"Except pc market makes more money then all the consoles combined as of 2014 and it's in steady growth for the past decade."

I would expect it to. With offices, students and home users
But seeing though we're talking about the PC gaming sector.
It's a different matter entirely.
Hence why developers like Capcom aren't even bothering.
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kingduqc  +   605d ago
Except pc market makes more money then all the consoles combined as of 2014 and it's in steady growth for the past decade.
sorane  +   605d ago
"But seeing though we're talking about the PC gaming sector.
It's a different matter entirely."

Actually it's not a different matter at all since he's talking strictly about the PC gaming market, which basically makes more money per year than xbox/ps/wii systems combined. It makes 3-4x as much as any single console per year, but for some reason all console people live in harmony and have to join forces when comparing against PC. It's ok though since it's a loss for consoles in either situation.
user5669510  +   605d ago
The fanboy come to spread his lies again. Your surprise GTA a series that started and always released on PC is coming to PC. I'm not going to even try to counter your argument because I'm sure people can tell by reading your comment your an idiot .
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SlapHappyJesus  +   605d ago
See ya after a price drop and on a 75% off sale then.
Mr Tretton  +   605d ago
And after a modder fixes the framerate.
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tee_bag242  +   605d ago
Still, the game is stuck at 30fps.
Are_The_MaDNess  +   605d ago
well then, let us PC gamers vote with our Wallets then...... sadly, so many still buy into the crap they spew out.

if we see more news like this, it will take a HUGE hit on the sales in any case.

piracy is simple and easy and modders makes wonders at times on many games. why should we give money to a company when they dont even care about releasing a fine/perfect product.

seems like only Nintendo thinks like that these days, strive for perfection and not releasing games before they are ready.
Th3o  +   605d ago
modders pick up capcom slack....always!
00  +   605d ago
And capcom wonders why they're in financial trouble.
Max-Zorin  +   605d ago
It's like Capcom wants to go bankrupt.
Mr Tretton  +   605d ago
A modder will figure this out. Though isn't that what devs are? Paid modders?
MegaRay  +   605d ago
You wonder why? Because they're Crapcom!
e-p-ayeaH  +   605d ago
Its dead rising 3 fellas what´s the big deal? the game isnt a masterpiece you just play it for a couple of days and youre done with it, life goes on.
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arugula  +   605d ago
FYI - Capcom DID NOT lock the game at 30 FPS. You CAN play at 60 if you would like, but they said that animations and zombie movement was done at a locked 30.

So basically they are saying that you can play at 60 but they arent sure exactly how it will look or perform.

It's still weak sauce though. Maybe when steam holiday sale comes along ill buy but not for more then $5. You may get a fix though if the word spreads enough and Capcom gets enough negativity about it. I mean, there RE games all run at 60, why not DR 3?
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aLiEnViSiToR  +   605d ago
Why are people so surprised by this... it's CAPCOM and the fails will continue >_> until they get their acts straight or go broke.
KontryBoy706  +   605d ago
Well... they can keep their game... and I can keep my $60. How bout that CrapCom? See, console gamers? This is why some PC gamers PIRATE.
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ChipsDP  +   605d ago
I have not pirated a game for a long time, but this just brings the urge back again...
jnemesh  +   605d ago
My guess is that they are capping the framerate at 30 just so the PC version doesn't make the Xbox One look underpowered.
Flames76  +   605d ago
Why in the world would they release it on a dying platform like pc?So pc players can pirate the damn game?Dead Rising is doing great on the X1 with 1.2 million sold already.Amazing game the zombies on screen at once is insane
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kingPoS  +   605d ago
Mod squad to the rescue!

Fixing & finishing what pc devs didn't, while... 'Undercover'

Gateway MT6706 2008
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Meltic  +   604d ago
when in summer is this released ? cant wait to play a good zombie game

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