"Ever since Destiny was announced, Bungie have only showcased the PlayStation 4 version of the game. There is no update on how the Xbox One version is shaping up."
There you go folks. And just wait till the 2nd wave of games use swizzled textures The Xbox One is gonna see another leap in graphics once the data move engines get used in development And I'm talking things like lighting, particles, texture quality, character models, etc. You've never heard me say visuals aren't important, only that resolution is of very little importance and most can't see a difference in 900 to 1080p
Umm, hardware is hardware. It's built into the machine. You can do fine-tuning to see advancements in graphical fidelity, but overall it's not going to see a big graphical leap once it's set into the machine (unless upgraded internally). So... Yeah... X1 will improve a bit, and so will the PS4. There won't be some magical thing to come along and boost performance as much as people seem to think. However, with that said, it's up to developers to really find the nuances of the hardware and bring out their full potential.
I see the same thing happening to destiny as I've seen on watchdogs. Devs using wordplay and beating around the bush. The truth is, lines like "they will have the same animations" that the watchdogs Dev said and what bungie is saying in this article are the same. They want to sell games. Period. In this case bungie has to sell buttloads because the investment put into making the game is so huge. It will sell great but face it the x1 won't be equal to the ps4 version unless they downgrade the ps4 version. Hardware don't lie. No software patch can help that. That said destiny will be fun for all.. No matter the console. The alpha was fun for me...sad it maxed out at lvl 8. Protip: I can tell the difference between 900p and 1080p ..and for those who say it doesn't matter are being self centered.
Just need to look at launch games last gen and games at the end of the generation.. They needed 8gb of ram for watchdogs yet managed gta5 on 512mb Software can make incredible differences and is far more important then some of you wish to believe
Software makes a difference yes.. Better tools always makes a difference....but what one fails to realize is when comparing 360 and ps3 is the fact that the ps3 was more powerful than the 360...just the 360 was easier to Dev for ..so for a while 360 had better performance. In this case the ps4 is more powerful AND easier to Dev for. Software will come for both and the gap will remain the same if not grow larger than it is now. The topic though is destiny and destiny a first year game. later in these consoles lifetimes will software come into play. Bringing up GTA ment what? The fact that gta4 ran better on 360 and GTA 5 ran better on ps3 means software did it?...or does it mean devs finally got a grip on developing for the more powerful ps3?
Yea hardware is hardware. But we have yet to see the Xbox One actually used correctly. With so many development problems with some components in the machine it has been hindered. Sure the new SDK helped, but things other than the GPU need tending to.
How will the gap grow larger if the hardware is already set? Cmon dude... In your posts you say software cant close the gap but yet it will make it grow larger for your side? You lost all credibility right there And PS.. If devs learned to use ps3, why can't devs also learn how to utilize the x1 architecture? It has to go both ways.
@n4rc The gap CAN grow larger, if both consoles are at their limits then we can see how big the graphical difference really is and there will be a big difference that is what kingthrash is trying to explain to you.
This gen of gamers give me a flipping break... Deal with it.. Don't like it? get bent go away find a new hobby.
Lol n4c.. What makes you think I have a "side"?. I never said one console was better than another ..that is opinion. I said one is more powerful than the other...and that's fact. Tbh I could care less because its always been that way in gaming.. It just happens that this generation people are making excuses for the weaker console and saying that software or 10% more GPU will put it on par..or stronger than a console that has been performing 40% or more better. Both will become easier to use...both will have software upgrades. Both will put out fun awesome games. But if we are talking power and better performance ps4 will always do better Because the hardware cannot be changed. The esram was a bad move by ms. Its time to move on from it and enjoy games. People say it don't matter but every time a Dev speaks about it.. Its a discussion.
"No software patch can help that." Then why the hell am I getting all of these darn software patches improving gameplay, frame rate, and graphics on my PC. Darn software patches.
@kingtrash no u cant tell the difference between 900 and 1080p. Its all relative to the size of your tv and the distamce at which you sit at. You are such a huge fanboy its not even funny. http://www.rtings.com/image...
Read the article, not the headline, lifeisgamesok . Quote from article : "...We are working really hard so that the best experience and the quality of the game we are trying to deliver is equal across all platforms, as much as we possibly can...!" Best experience what Xbone's hardware can offer. Best experience what PS4's hardware can offer. So, how it will turn out on each platform, we will see.
For years the ps3 version of games were pretty much "dummbed down" and no devs ever tried to reassure ps fans. This gen however, everyone is reassuring xbox fans that they will give them the "best experience possible" smh. It's starting to feel like microosft is the gaming mafia, no one wants to get on their bad side or piss them off for fear of repercussion. This is disgusting.
That's great for gamers.. this will make a lot of folks very happy and some not so much. Keep up the good work bungie
I think I read an article last week where Phil Spencer told Eurogamer that the 10% power increase to the Xbone after dropping Kinect meant that Bungie were able to upgrade the performance to 1080p and it was running EXACTLY the same as on PlayStation 4 with the same frame rate all the same graphical effects. The Beta for both the Xbone and PS4 will allow a more neutral comparison by the media.
I remember the time when xbox fans were bragging about the power of the cloud like it was yesterday.... Those were the days :D
You got to remember you're on a Sony fan site. They don't believe anything unless the PS4 does it. When Microsoft brings out crackdown and directx12 and other things. X box fans will have the last laugh.
And if DirectX doesn't make a substantial difference? Then what? Will you accept it and move on?
Who's the hypocrite who believes every fairy tale Microsoft PR feeds them and doubts every fact that PS4 has going for it? ---- "When Microsoft brings out crackdown and directx12 and other things. X box fans will have the last laugh." This is why we're laughing at you. "other things"? Like what? http://myreactiongifs.com/g...
Then it comes out and nothing changes.
"sony fan site" that's funny, I remember only a few years ago when N4g was a "MS fan site". To me it looks like whoever has the console with the "problem" are the ones that call N4g a site for the console they don't have. PS3 hard to develop for so 3rd party games don't run as well as the 360, 360 fans brag about a 10 line difference in resolution. N4g is a Ms fan site. Ms put weaker hardware in the Xbone, then taxed that hardware with non game functions and kinect. PS4 is a pure game machine with more power under the hood and nothing tying it down, Of course PS fans are going to retaliate after the 360 days, especially with all the pathetic EXCUSES Xbone fans have now, "resolution doesn't mean anything", you can't tell the difference between X resolution and Y resolution and does it REALLY matter? (if 10 lines of res mattered so drastically with the 360 why do hundreds of lines of res difference NOT matter NOW???) I think of is as all you Microsoft fans getting you comeuppance for being such smug prats last generation.
@lifeissok I'll give you a easy equation Craper hardware than PS4 will be the same no matter what, and you just give a boost but you can't totally fix problem yourself, it's the hardwares fault, maybe just maybe if they better or equal hardware to the PS4 the disparity between the consoles won't exist.
You PS fans have had a bad couple weeks. It's a wonder you guys still have words to say after having to eat so many.
A bad couple of weeks.... Do you mean Sony having more games to show, and more surprises to share at E3 than MS....? Do you mean having "downgrade" rumours squashed by actual high-fidelity footage....? Do you mean finding out PlanetSide 2 runs at 1080p/60fps on PS4....? Do you mean having our dreams come true and Miyazaki and SCEJ confirm working together on a spiritual successor to Demon's Souls coming in early 2015....? OR..... is it finding out that DX12 and cloud computing is not going to come along to save Xbox at E3, but multiplats instead? I'd love to hear where this bad couple of weeks began and ended... if only you had more than one bubble to "inform" us.
Yep wave 2 games are gonna use DMA swizzle textures. This is from and and Microsoft conference yesterday. http://amd-dev.wpengine.net...
Whether or not Destiny gets dumb down or not, the PS4 still has the best version around. Exclusive maps-check, exclusive weapons-check, exclusive armor- check, and exclusive abilities-check, exclusive guardians-check, exclusive missions-check and all exclusively on PS4. Next question what system will Destiny be heavily advertised on? PS4. What system has a destiny bundle? PS4 What system has the alpha and beta first? PS4 What system is confirmed to run at [email protected]? PS4 Who won this console generation? PS4
You forgot what will be Sonys last ever console before they are bankrupt:PS4 check;)
@WilDRangeRrfc How is that relevant to destiny but if you want to troll go read what Microsoft did when Apple went bankrupt, they will likely do the same for Sony if they fall that badly but that doesn't change the fact that PS4 is the system to play Destiny on.
Why would it even be dumbed down? Is xo old Gen console? Fan boy logic....you guys live in another world.
"Dumbed Down" sounds more like changing the whole concept of the game so that xbox user can understand what the game is about. Really bad choice of wording imo...
Yeah I never saw anyone say XB1's version might be dumbed down, just that it might be a lower resolution and/or frame rate. It doesn't surprise me that Bungie of all devs would go for parity, but some people won't like it if it turns out that the PS4 version was held back at all.
30fps for next gen shooter is a shame.
infamous was 30fps. 30 fps is not a problem.
No doubt the definitive edition will be on ps4 tho
yes it will. with exclusive content. im getting the white bundle ps4 :)
Timed exclusive content**
With the master chief pack coming I will wait and see if this comes to pc instead.
Didn't take long to ruin this positive article....
haha, no shit! This news is good to know. I will be buying it on X1 to play with my halo buddies. That just feels right to me. I think the same goes for many long time bungie fans. So knowing it wont be dumbed down in any, way, will be good news to them too. And is good news for x1 owners. Halo and destiny will be two of the best MP games to have this fall on the same console. Plus I got new titanfall DLC to sink my teeth into from now till then :)
That's nice to know. Still haven't made up my mind yet about this game will wait to see reviews and maybe try it out at a friends place before first and if its anything like halo ill be getting it. Destiny and halo mcc would be great additions to my collection.
Cringe @ gamingbolt throwing their usual fanboy BS questions at reputable developers like Bungie.
Let's hope the online portion of the game is not dumbed down on the PSN, we all know how that can run.
It's pretty fun so far, PvP is great, graphics are nice, controls are organized definitely worth getting on ps4. Game just might be a cod killer.
As well as Xbox Live, in pretty much all applicable cases. Not that I'd expect one of the site's new Xbox trolls to know that.
That's cool glad its running pretty much applicable. PSN though, while improved, is still years behind Xbox live.
I can understand people screaming ps4 more powerful........before the rest of the gpu was unlocked for xbone. But not anymore. These consoles are so close in power now it really is neglegable. I have a ps4 but I will probably get it for the xbone because of my Halo buds. Which ever way you choose you will experience the greatness of Bungie
Star screams logic : nvidia gtx 780ti = nvidia gtx 780/ 2880 cores = 2304 cores So much fail in one post, it has to be George noob. Ms unlocked the specs that are already listed so even tho they unlocked stuff the specs of ms's gpu vs ps4s gpu remain the same nothing has changed in the specs department ps4 is still metaphorically a 780ti and Xbox one is a 780, but keep trying to chris angel it up and poorly try to convince us that unlocking power from 780 makes it magically become a 780ti.0_o
Chris Angel it up? Hahahah ......you said it right it's a lot like comparing 780ti vs 780.......that's why I said NEGLEGABLE (operative word) power difference. I didn't say the xbox was more powerful. People who only own xbox will now be able to have the majority of their games in 1080p. Does that bother you that much? I have the Ps4 too man I'm not bashing Sony........Prefrence is one thing being a Fanboy just doesn't make sense to me.......unless your getting paid? Now if you will excuse me I'm going to Chris Angel up my Xbox to an super computer O_o
I'll believe it when I see it lol ps 900p is not 1080p by the way. Lol I'm a fan if quality which is why I have a ps4, ps3, and had Xbox, and a 5000 dollar pc witha A 4770k @ 4.7ghz, 16GB g skill trident x memory @ 2400mh 512gb Samsung 840 pro ssd, asus maximus vi formula motherboard, sli'd evga 780ti classys and all watercooled. If being a Sony fanboy means not supporting a company that tries to screw gamers until it effects preorder sales, not trying to support a company that changes their agenda more than a girl friend changes clothes than give me a Sony hat and call me shill lol I buy the best I can buy vs price of course and when it comes to consoles ps4 is clearly the best hence why it has double the sales. Double the specs etc. defending ms makes you the worst of the worst consumers around and means you have zero principles and a very short memory. Ms feeds off the loyal fan base just go back a year a remember all the crap ms pulled the only reason they tried because even they assumed you guys were mindless sheep that bahhhh'd at anything they did, too bad for them 4 million loyal fans didn't take it 90 degrees with a smile. I'm not the droid you're looking for....lol excuse me while I David Blane it up and magicly turn my ps4 into super computer by turning on my gaming pc while you were distracted doing qte's in ryse at not 1080p and 30 FPS locked.
Lol, No they arent. The GPU of the xbox is much weaker, the setup of ram is bad and that is why every single multiplat is better on the PS4. Not only the rez, but also AA. This is PR talking. The same was done with Watch Dogs. Even yesterday we all saw what happend to Sunset Overdrive, a cartonny game, exclusive, that runs at 900/30. 900p to 1080p is something like more 20 to 30 por cent pixels. Therefore 10 por cent doesnt cut it. Something will be cut. Every game can run at 1080p on the xbox one, but is just a matter of what you cut from the game. Xbox One gamer need to accept that the PS4 is just more powerfull from the start and much more easier to work with.
You kinda overstated it, but it's true. If Destiny manages 1080p, then fabulous, but people who are running with the narrative that "most people can't tell the difference between 900p and 1080p" should just stop. Gamers are not most people. Here's is a quick visual example of the differences between 720p, 900p and 1080p. If you can't tell the difference then you may as well be a blind person: http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o...
I like how everyone is starting to accept this now. 720p and below looks really blurry. If you said this on the site before next gen you would be mass disagreed.
The problem with xbox gamers is that 792 or 900p doesnt matter this minute. "we play games and not rez", but if any game runs at 900p on the PS4 and 1080 on the Xbox One. The world will end...lol. The other big problem is the most advanced games are on the PS4, because if the game runs at 900p its downgraded, because we are at 2014 and not in 2008. We jumped from HD to FHD. Everyone has a FHD LCD and not a cross gen rez like 792 or 900p
I can't say I'm surprised when individuals state they can't see a difference between 720p,900p,1080p. Fanboys are the dominate force and 'evangelism' runs rampant. On both sides of the fence. In fairness to the non 'evangelist' types though (they exist after all) it doesn't help diminish the merits of the debate when the biggest gamer site (IGN) spreads (dis)information like this. http://i.minus.com/i2nhSOOd... It's eye widening that out of 4 'Professional' reporters whom carry the persona of being hardcore gamers they arrive at such a consensus related to resolution! Just incredible. It's fair to dispute and contest the importance of resolution with semantics. But to delve into this mumbo-jumbo about screen size etc. Reeks of PR for $. I don't play that card lightly, but, it is what it is for the rational minded to see
PS4, XB1, PS3, 360; I don't think it will matter much which console you play it on. The PS4 version will probably look better and initially have more content. But after playing the alpha I truly believe no matter what machine you have, you are going to have a ball. The game is addicting and terribly fun.
the graphical difference isnt noticeable at all. Most of you here are not gaming on anything larger than 50" inch tv's. @corroios first off its per not "por",sunset overdrive is an open world game,name one open world game that runs 60 fps on any system? @I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989 so you really think there's a huge diffrence from the 780 and 780ti? no not really. The diffrence would be like the diffrence from an iphone 5 to an iphone 5s. On top of the the xbox one chip is extremely customized. You can not rule it out to be a basic nvidia chip. The ps4 is indeed stronger,but by how much is not night and day like you all preach here. As a person who runs an electronic department and dealing with actually customers daily. The percentile that care about which is stronger is less than 5%. I also ask in a friendly manner why are you buying this system. The ps4 number one answer is "it's cheaper" also im aware its the "it" thing now. When asked why are you buying the xbox one it's usually diffrent reasons cause price is not its selling point "titanfall" "forza" "new halo" "xbox live" I'm super curious to know how that will go now that the "it's cheaper" "has more exclusives" is not a valid answer anymore. Sidetracked,my point is you can not notice a diffrence,it all mental,just like sure we all want that $2000 70" samsung tv but in reality you can go home to you 55' vizio and be very satisfied with it. Unless you have a ps4 and xbox one running on the same tv side by side you will notice anything and even still anything would be very minimal, I still have to talk people into blurays versus dvd's you really think people care about 900p vs 1080p? no one even knows cable is only in 720p/1080i,you tell them this and its like you discovered america. On top of that the 900p is upscaled to 1080p! give it a rest sony ponies. end of the day you dont have anything to play in 1080p,even next year is looking slim. Games > frames :D
@shadyiswin Final Fantasy realm reborn is an open world MMORPG that runs [email protected] fps , and the almost 100% of the PS4 catalogue except for watch_dogs, and BF4 which both still happen to run at higher resolution or framerate than the x1 counterpart.
I've owned both a 780 and a 780ti and I can guarantee you the 780ti is better by quite the margin. Only time it wouldn't be is by bad game optimization or bad drivers. Oh okay so your saying 5 % of gamers care which is stronger yet the ps4 is leading by approx 4 million lol. now that I have a built an insane pc it's hard for me to get insanely fanboy when it comes to consoles, but I can say the Xbox one vs ps4 has a huge difference the facts are already out there, the games at 1080p vs not, the higher FPS. The devs input, the specs, the sales, the Sony exclusives. And for all the xboxs fans screaming oh but Teh Dx 12 update and sdk's blah blah you're wasting you're time because sony can port dx 12 API to the ps4 and they can optimize Aswell so no matter what software ms updates Sonys ps4 will always have the edge. I'm so glad this gen the delusional xbots are the minority. It feels good when the balance of the world is back to normal.
I will like you guys to keep that 4 million sales gap in your heads, for starters the sales gap in America is not even 500,000. Of course there's a sales gap when your only in 13 counties vs 70+ and at a time $100 more. That will all be negated by this time next year the Xbox one will the number selling console in the states. Also I'm one of the free who can care about cloud and dx12, why don't I? Because I'm not a developer I'm a gamer. Halo 5 and gears of war is coming rather the Xbox has a weaker GPU or not as long as you give me games I could careless. My friends were not duped by Sony with there 40 exclusives for Sony in 2014 and for gamers by gamers non sense. They throw there creepy non gamer ass ceo's on change who read anything in front of them fake and emotionless and you guys buy it every year. Back track my comments and see how I nailed Sony's e3. Keep the 780ti I'll keep better and more games. The day Xbox one runs dry on games and the ps4 flourishes I'll get a ps4,$400 is nothing for me.
I can't tell the difference between 1080p and 900p unless I put two identical TV's together and use a magnifying glass. I actually have a life so I'm not going to do that. My friends that have the X1 have the same games I have on my PS4 and when I go to their houses, the games look the exact same.
But its not the same. If you have two choices and one is better then the other why would you buy the worst. shadyiswin Sorry but 1.30 TF for 1.80 TF its not a small diference. The GPU of the PS4 is just more advanced then the Xbox One that is a machine built with kinect in mind.
There are several factors. If your friends play on Xbox One would you still buy the PS4 version and only play with random gamers online just because it's, say for example, 5% better than the Xbox One version? What if you only own an Xbox One, would you buy another console costing $400 for a game that's available for the system you already own, but in slightly better detail? You said two choices, so I assume buying another system is technically part of either choice available to you as long as you have money to blow on video games. Lastly, everyone on N4G already know the PS4 can perform more magical miracles than the Xbox One. Whether or not they care...
“We are working really hard so that the best experience and the quality of the game we are trying to deliver is equal across all platforms, as much as we possibly can,” Jason explained to GamingBolt. So in other words; they're nerfing the PlayStation 4 version for the sake of parity.
I should say not since it will be the best version on console's.Just like watchdogs,battlefield 4,and wolfenstein all look batter on the X1.Plus ryse is still the best looking game on any platform.Also with it being full 1080p its gonna look amazing
As much as we can he says
My friend is a game journalist. She did an interview with Bungie at E3. They told her the game is 1080p on Xbox One just like they told Keighley. She also said they told her Destiny is the first game to take advantage of the 10% GPU boost. And anyone saying "So the PS4 version is nerfed if it's the same on Xbone..." I think you can also consider that it's on 360 and PS3 as well.... k
i ahev xb1 and ps4 so this shit dont bother me
the articles got it all backwards...obviously it wont be dumbed down on the xbox one...rather itll be pushing it to its limits, the question is...will it be dumbed down on the ps4 in order to keep parity between the two?