Lewis Ward, Research Manager at IDC, says Microsoft's announcement to make the Kinect optional, along with a reduction in retail price by $100, will give its Xbox One a boost.
I dunno bout catch up but gain momentum in sales for sure.
They shall get a boost. But catch..nah, neither blew us away at e3. The new SKU will help sales..but Sony hasn't lost momentum.
Catch up with Sony? Don't they have to catch up with Nintendo first? Way to jump the gun. Sony did what they had to do at E3 and that was to not be defined as the loser. They showed high quality games, innovation, and a possibly superb game streaming product that could revolutionize the industry. Momentum is still in their hands and NPD will continue to show that.
I have to agree that they wont catch up but he believe that by the end of next year we may see console sales parity. Once again, Kinect is being thrown under the bus and is seen a the sole reason (as it effected price) as to the disparity.
"but Sony hasn't lost momentum" ^This! That was the whole point of E3 between MS and Sony. In order for MS to close ground that had to come out of E3 with momentum shift and I didn't see that happen. Regardless of the pacing of their press conference, which was excellent, they didn't show anything or make any announcements that had anyone jumping out of their seats and jumping online or rushing to a store to pick up an X1 right then and there. All 3 had great showings. I don't see any positions changing in the near future and I don't see Sony not staying on top this generation.
meanwhile on amazon, the Xbone has dropped from 41st to 45th spot.. not seeing that desired boost quite yet. http://www.amazon.com/best-...
For the next few years, PS4 will for sure stay ahead. X1 just has to stay in the game for now, later on when prices drop, they will do well, but for those who worry about scores, Sony has this in the bag.... but always good to have someone pushing them, forces innovation, which is what we gamers want, I would hope anyways.
Momentum not catch up
If this doesn't work nothing will. They threw everything at Sony at E3 but the kitchen sink. In all honestly, they had better games than Sony last year and better games than Sony this year. Sony's only strengths last year was the no DRM thing and the lower price tag.
Largly opinion based comment bro. You could have used a "IMO" somewhere in there.
No. MS had the best showing at E3, no doubt. They also had the best games last year. All Sony had was cheaper hardware, petty jabs at the competition, and hollow promises of no DRM. If this showing doesn't convince the general public nothing will. Sometimes the better man doesn't always win. I will say this, Sony is flat out lying about their alleged 7 million sales figure. So that's out there and it's something to consider. I personally believe the Xbox One gives you more bang for your buck and is the better product than the PS4. Just giving you some background so you can understand my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
Lol they cant lie about the sales, do some research to see why, the rest of your comment is opinion at best and at worst wishfull thinking.
"Just giving you some background so you can understand my opinion" The background to your opinion is more opinions. "I will say this, Sony is flat out lying about their alleged 7 million sales figure. So that's out there and it's something to consider." lol
@MultiConsoleGamer: Yup, way to begin the thread with lies and trolling. You're a known troll on N4G, please go away somewhere while real gamers talk about games. I feel all three companies did well but momentum will still remain the same. Sony hasn't lost its edge and the superb games and gameplay they showed at E3 proves it. We'll see what happens throughout the year but as of right now, I do not see anything slowing down PS4 sales.
What hollow promise of no DRM (digital games don't count they can't make them DRM free)? I know a lot more people with a PS4 than X1 including people that had been long time Xbox supporters so I don't think that 7 million was a lie. Plus as business you can't afford to lie about stuff like that because if it would be found out that they lie about it they would be in big trouble for falsifying their reports. That MS had better games at E3 and that their console is better is your own opinion, just like it is my opinion that MS didn't show much that I want to play. For me personally what I would want to play is the DR3 DLC, Ori and the Halo remastered games. For me the console doesn't offer any features I want or need that the PS4 wouldn't have. That's called personal preference, just like your personal preference is the X1 and the games they showed over what Sony has.
You're delusional you do realize Sony would pay increased taxes on their increased sales and that there are severe penalties for reporting falsified sales to shareholders etc. It's not beneficial to Sony to pay more taxes on phantom sales like you suggest. Also all units have easy to track Serial numbers for each individual unit. If you were going to make up sales you wouldn't want something easy to track you'd want items that are in bulk without such things which make it easy to discover. Just go read up on other examples like Enron to see what disastrous results could be. http://www.libraryindex.com...
Sony fans always drag out the whole "but they would get in trouble for lying excuse." But that's just it. By combining sales figures they've found a creative, legal loophole that no one else in the industry uses. This gives them the ability to lie about their numbers and yet still remain in a legal gray area. @Chavalier. NPD only covers %60 of the US market. We also haven't seen legitimate Sony NPD data in almost three years. The only thing that has appeared online is fake numbers from vgchartz and "estimates" from the NeoGAF marketing forum which are also fake.
Are you really still trying this crap?, you have been busted gtfo.
So you have proof and sales data proving that NPD and all these numbers are falsified to show and enlighten us right? Because you say so is an opinion until proven otherwise with factual proof. Please show us all how we are all wrong with this incredible proof then. Because without that your literally just some idiot with an opinion. Also while your at it I would love to see any data you have involving this RROD thing last gen and would love to know failure rates and multiple unit replacements while your scrounging up info to prove those evil Sony lies. True story I wouldn't have even known evil lies till you came along. Your a true hero for revealing this. Thanx a bunch!
I hope Microsoft gets more ambitious with Phil around and do somethings that will even get sony's attention. Just to keep sony on its feet and not complacent and show off more games. Was dissapointed at this years E3 thought Sony was playing it too safe, could have shown more gameplay from the order and uncharted had zero gameplay, just a facial closeup. Third party did a better job of bringing gameplay esp batman and the now third party kojima.
Not sure about catch up per say but they definitely made steps to undo some of the negative pr that helped Sony get the lead they have. And Sony didn't leverage their lead very well if you ask me. Personally I'd say Microsoft had a solid but very conservative/safe e3 presentation with the typical halo, forza, cod, ass creed, etc.. All great games but a little low on the wow factor. Sunset looks good but after fuze and the last few ratchets I'll take a wait and see with insomniac games. I'd say Microsoft also did a really good job of leveraging their history of online gaming experiences with lots of solid competitive, cooperative, and asynchronous gameplay shown, and a few of the indis looked great (Ori and Inside). I give them a B (below an A due to lack of wow moments. They also get nagative marks for the conker tease and big fat 'make your own damn game' fu seconds later) Sony on the other hand had really really great content with more stand out games imo (the order, blood borne, and uncharted all looked crazy good) but their presentation was really badly organized (lacked a coherent theme, terrible pacing, missed opportunities to frame announcements in context to larger strategy, etc)! Overall I give them a similar B rating (below an A for all the above mentioned things plus failing to show the Ratchet remake and for announcing it in the wake of the movie instead of the other way around; because we like games more than movies and why fing announce it if you can't at least show it.) Overall I'd say Sony still has the better line up this year due to multiplats running better (almost always look/perform better). Due to this ps4 will remain my go to box for all multiplats. That and they have a ton of really really good indi content with a huge lead in that space. Aside from that both machines appear to have similar overall quality and volume of exclusive content leading into the next year (both consoles have fairly thin 2014s with this regard based on my tastes) with all the really great stuff starting to hit in 2015.
"Overall I'd say Sony still has the better line up this year due to multiplats running better" That statement make no sense at all. So what are you saying is a few years ago when PS3 had the better exclusives but all their third party port are below the X360, the Xb360 won, right?
In the US, combined with a lower priced console, that is exactly what happened.
If a "catch-up" is to be had, I don't see it happening all that soon. That said, Microsoft is certainly at the point where they've set themselves up as a real contender for this generation and it's definitely their time to shine.
people keep saying they were not blown away. what more could you have seen. in sony camp free farcry, mind blowing, with nintendo devils 3rd as an exclusive and for ms platinum games with dinosaurs. wow thats pretty impressive, not sure what you are expecting from games but i couldnt ask for more. maybe not my favorite list of games coming out but lots of new stuff I havent played. Also did anyone notice sony was launching stuff during the press conference, beta codes and even full games
Agreed man, don't know what people were expecting when this is only the first full year for all these consoles. I think the announcements were great for all 3 tbh. Sony exclusive games: 11 The Order: 1886, Entwined, infamous: First Light, LittleBigPlanet 3, Bloodbourne, Ratchet and Clank Remake, Drive Club, Let It Die, TLOU HD, Abzu, Uncharted 4 MS exclusive games: 11 Forza Horizon 2, Halo Master Chief Collection, Fable Legends, Sunset Overdrive, Killer Instinct Season 2, Scalebound, Dance Central Spotlight, Phantom Dust, Crackdown, Ori and the Blind Forest, Halo 5 Nintendo had a great showing too and Zelda was the Megaton of the conference IMO
So we need to just ignore the other features, perks, and hardware by Sony? 1) Farcry coop with one person owning the game. (GREAT feature) 2) Playstation TV - Must own for anyone with a PS4 that wants to be able to play in other rooms. 3) Playstation NOW - Awesome service (know 1st hand) and hundreds of free games coming to everyone in a month. Why people aren't pumping this up is beyond me. With all of the games, plus those - Sony had the best showing FOR ME.
Get a boost??Sure But they wont be catching up this gen.Especially when.word of mouth gets around that the PS4 has better hardware and games run better on it.Every family has that one person that really knows their video games and have friends who ask on what console they.should get.
One thing that's become clear to me is that Sony and Microsoft are running two completely different races and it all boils down to vision. Sony has stayed the course but the minute Microsoft did their 1st 180 I knew it was only a matter of time before they dumped the Kinect. However i think now that they have better leadership, are priced more competitively and an array of good games coming out this year they should be able to make up some ground. The problem is the future of Xbox One is still unclear. With Sony I can see a future with VR and streaming that's going to change the game, but Microsoft dropped the ball on their Kinect/ TV vision and are now only playing catchup. I think they'll do just fine but I think it may already be too late to catch up in the grand scheme of things. Nintendo is showing life again too.
Lets be fair here.. How does that make sense? Ms dropped the ball by showing TV features but Sony stayed the course for being "all about the hardcore gamers" then showing TV stuff?
The TV and movie part of the show lasted less than 17 minutes out of an hour and forty-five. Sony always said content like that was coming, so yeah they did stay the course. Take that 17 minutes away, and Sony spent about the same amount of time on games that MS did, so yeah games are clearly the main focus.
Last e3 had lots of games for ms too.. But that doesn't matter? Look.. Its nothing against Sony... I watch TV and its cool they are bring stuff like this.. But.. How can people continue to use the same topic to bash one company but suddenly its good when another does it.. Its bs And time spent talking about it is completely irrelevant
Yes, let's be fair. Microsoft dropped the ball by unveiling their console with a focus on TV. Sony gave their programming a few minutes in a conference otherwise full of games.
MS had a great E3. But they didn't do anything to say "Ok this is why you must run out and buy a XB1 right now !", they showed more than Sony, but most was CGI. Halo MC Collection was their best announcement to me. Sony had Bloodborne, Little Big Planet 3, and A Thief's End. Those stood out to me more. Of course this is just all opinion, many people believe MS won it in their opinion and I can totally respect that and see why. But at the end of the day its us gamers who own both a PS4 and Xbox One who win. Great games coming from both. Its a good time to be a gamer people. I think MS and Sony are both on the edge of doing something remarkable with their games we already seen a sneak peek of that with U4 A Thief's End trailer all running in engine directly from a PS4 and ND trying to make the final game look better than that. And now I believe 343 is gonna blow us away with Halo 5 Guardians.
MS had a great E3. But they didn't do anything to say "Ok this is why you must run out and buy a XB1 right now !" I thought they did that when they showed all those games in full force. If someone were to ask me what consoles were worth it, now that E3 is done and over, I would say all three. Though, to be fair, I've considered the Wii U a worthwhile console to own for a while now.
Crossgen Forza and remade Halo that is playable on last Gen systems does not scream come drop $400-500. Neither does another Dance Central or Sunset Overdrive. Especially when you see the heavy FPS competition from Bungies Destiny, COD, BF, last Gen Borderlands and Evolve by 2k (Left 4 Dead developers) I don't see Xbone having that much better sales this coming fall.
If MS does a Master Chief bundle like they did with Titanfall.... I see a huge boost in sales... Because that game IS a system seller. And for this holiday season, Sony doesn't have their system seller like Uncharted or God of War.
1st LBP sold over 5 Million. 2nd over 3 million. To say they don't have a big game for the holiday is dumb. Driveclub is shaping up to be a great game... may be a HUGE seller. MS has a 10yr old game, rebundled.
Really? LBP and Driveclub are system sellers? The Master Chief Collection pretty much is the best value is gaming since the Orange Box. If you know of another great value in the history of gamimg, please enlighten me. 4 Halo games in 1080p 60fps, over 100 multi-player maps, Halo 5 beta, and the Halo series.... And Halo 2 is completely remastered. Master Chief is the iconic Xbox mascot. Halo has always been a system seller. So... Please tell me again.... LBP and Driveclub are system sellers? Lolol
Hey, at least you got to said 1080p/60fps. How'd that feel?
So last gen games is enough to drop$400-500? When facing the most FPS properties during a fall ever?! Evolve by Turtlerock studios (Left for dead developers), Destiny with a new system bundle (beating out PS4 and also joining it in amazon top 10), COD and BF all will play, perform and sell better on PS4. Then look at Forza will be available on 360 as were all those Halo not to mention a Borderlands presequel game so again how much of an incentive is it actually to buy the new system? Yes Halo was amazing, but, you think people are going to ignore what Bungie is doing right now with Destiny?! Nostalgia versus some new? Sounds like that just wait for Titanfall and as heavily advertised as that was and discounted it was didn't even beat PS4 at all.
I don't think it will ever catch up . But I hope they sale alot for the rest of this gen.
I didn't think either conference was "mind blowing". MS came out with the usual suspects, Forza, Halo, Fable and buying timed exclusive DLCs. There was some nice indie games coming but most are PC bound too. Sony was way too safe. I was expecting to see Uncharted 4 gameplay and much more from their first party studios. LBP3 was the only real surprise. Bloodborne is the same old gameplay mechanics from Demon/Dark Souls. I was quite impressed with Ubisoft Far Cry 4 and AC Unity but they have the same gameplay mechanics as all their other games. Overall quite an underwhelming E3 this year. Publishers/developers need to up the game a lot more than they are now. For me indies rule the roost once more for me especially No Man's Sky, Ori and the Blind Forest and Abzû. (All 3 are coming to PC too) :P
No. M$ is dead in video game console. M$ will sell the brand xbox in 2016.
Microsoft is shipping out to 52 more countries this September. Around than i expect a closing of the gap between the 2
Really? Over 60% of 360 sales were from 2 countries ALONE, UK/USA and you think more countries is the answer? Just look at the numbers on the bar graph here: http://arstechnica.com/gami... 62% between UK/USA which Xbone are losing currently and 2nd/3rd tier countries only accounted for 38% of lifetime sales and you think these countries where Sony destroys MS is going to help close the gap?! Okay name me ONE country out of the major countries are beating PS4?! Right NONE. Your delusional if you think the kind of gap right now can be closed by adding countries where they will also lose. They close a gap if you can't win a single country. In fact the gap will just widen even more.
xbox one is dead, it's selling worse than x360. last NPD april xbox one sold only 115k. that's worse than any x360 april NPD exept this year. xbox one will be lucky if it reaches 30 million LTD
If Amazon is any guide, both the white and black PS4 are still outselling the kinectless Xbox by quite a bit.
Yes we know ps4 is selling better Right Now, only because of the games Sony promised that's not coming!!! MS drop X1 price, and have great games coming, Wait till All the 360 owners upgrade to Next Gen then the Console War will be ON,..a lot of ps3 owners done made the jump because ps3 junk!!! I own all consoles ps4, X1, 360 on back, but after son having a ps3 it's the only system I past on for good reasons...
Its a good point. Most of the people I know still have 360's and will be picking up an XB1 sometime soon in the future. I've asked 'em if the PS4 is appealing to them and the answer is always a resounding 'no'
Never give up hope.
Microsoft needs to outsell the PS4 globally consistency for months! I don't see it happening over the summer. I don't see it happening when Xbox releases in other territories.
they didnt just drop the price they removed the camera which says alot because they did say it was a part of the whole experience. Sony has always been a better company IMO better games better loyalty to consumers and offer more bang for ur buck. sony released first they played the card rite and they delivered, microsoft missed out and didnt expect sony to be soo dominant after they fooled 80 million last generation. im glad of how this generation is goin it will force all companies to give us the best of us gamers wnt be buying.
Shouldn't the NPD numbers have been released yesterday?
Yup. Is going to catch up in less than a year. After that is going to be extremely difficult for Sony to recover.
You are joking right? I'm picking up One next year or when they get a bigger Hard Drive but this gen belongs to the PS4. Most of my multiplats will be played on the PS4
How? You honestly think they can recover from a 3.5+ unit gap in less than a year??? God help us.
Sorry, but the Xbox One is STILL overpriced at $399. NOT ONE GAME that was shown at E3 by Microsoft will convince someone to buy their console over Sony's either. This is already reflected in the Amazon best seller ratings. White PS4 + Destiny bundle? #8. Standard PS4 console? #10. Xbox One (no Kinect) at $399? #44. Yes, existing Xbox One fans are really excited for Halo 1-4. It's at #7. But it's apparently only selling to existing Xbox One customers...it's not moving hardware, unlike Destiny and the PS4. And NOTHING ELSE MS showed is going to even SLIGHTLY interest the average gamer who is sitting on the fence.
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