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Nintendo: Wii U won't get Twitch gameplay streaming because it's not fun to watch

The ability to stream video of live gameplay straight from a console through a streaming service like Twitch has become an important, identifying part of next-gen gaming.

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Neonridr1563d ago

While I don't use twitch I can still see its uses. I would have to disagree with Nintendo here. You would think they would want to embrace as much as they could at this point, and by having Twitch functionality you are getting people to see games being played that maybe they wouldn't stop to give a second glance to. It's a chance for some extra sales. Only issues I can see is when it comes to the video broadcasting part (if they had that feature). I don't believe the camera built into the gamepad is really very good for video (never used the chat feature yet) and if a gamer is using the gamepad, how can they broadcast video? All you would see is up the player's nose the entire time XD.

I guess Nintendo could come out with a camera peripheral to remedy that or they could only allow voice chat to go along with the streaming of the actual game.

Still, I think it's a little narrow minded to simply rule it out right away.

pwnsause_returns1563d ago

"Nintendo: Wii U won't get Twitch gameplay streaming because it's not fun to watch"

No the wii u wont get twitch gameplay, cause their system cant handle it. Unlike Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo doesnt that dedicates twitch streaming...

Neonridr1563d ago

what do you mean their system can't handle it? It handles streaming via Netflix perfectly fine. Your statment makes no sense..

caseh1563d ago

I don't own a Wii U so can't confirm but if it has a web browser and you can browse to twitch.tv then I would imagine it can *ahem* handle it.

pwnsause_returns1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

im talking about streaming and playing the game at the same time...In other words livestreaming your play session and putting it on twitch...

OrangePowerz1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

@Neon

It's hard to say if the system would have the power or not for broadcasting. Watching isn't the problem, but broadcasting takes up resources. You can test that by streaming a game via twitch on the PC. You will notice that your performance will be lower when broadcasting gameplay. The PS4 as example has an extra ARM chipset that os independent from the APU to take care of those things.

LOL_WUT1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

Nintendo won't allow Twitch gameplay streaming because they can't make some revenue from it like what they're trying to do with that whole YouTube fiasco. ;)

Edit I also think the hardware isn't capable of it

XtraTrstrL1563d ago

This is exactly what I was thinking. "Not fun" = "not possible" on Wii U. I'm sure they'd have to dedicate some ram to it and also it'd have to use some of the CPU/GPU to some extent just to run in the background capturing your live stream of whatever app/game you are playing. They need every last drop of that power, considering the system is slighty above a PS3/360 in overal horsepower. So, I doubt we'll be seeing any crazy background stuff like that going on, as X1 and PS4 continue to expand on apps.

I think the people responding to you don't understand for whatever reason. They think you're talking about Wii handling just going to Twitch on it's browser. Dunno why they'd be thinking that, obviously you mean it being setup to stream from and totally integrated from the OS side.

I won't say it isn't possible, but the console really is massively underpowered, that's compared to the X1 which is already known to be around 40-50% weaker on GPU alone than PS4. If they could get it in there at the OS level like PS4, it would definitely use some ram up, and they only have 2gb total, 1 for OS, 1 for games. So, if that 1 for OS isn't taken up, they can use a lil ram from there to get it going, but it seems the system is underpowered enough that it'd be hard to get it all going without causing hickups or issues with the game/app you are playing at the same time.

SilentNegotiator1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

"what do you mean their system can't handle it? It handles streaming via Netflix perfectly fine"

*Facepalm*

Rendering, capturing, and sending a stream with livestreaming is NOT the same thing as receiving a stream from Netflix. Wii U has a considerably weaker CPU and less RAM than it's 8th gen counterparts; it probably WOULD struggle with streaming performance. It's the streaming going OUT that would suffer, not just any of the streams being WATCHED.

And, you know, maybe let your fans decide what's "fun" or not. People seem to enjoy Twitch.

Neonridr1563d ago

@SilentNegotiator I guess it would depend on what game we are talking about broadcasting now wouldn't it? While you might be right for more hardware taxing games like MK8, it's hard to say that it wouldn't be possible with indie games, etc.

make fun of me all you want but you have no clue for sure if it could or couldn't, you just make assumptions and try to put other people down without any proof.

SilentNegotiator1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

I'm sorry if I came off too abrasive, but I didn't intend to direct that solely at you; I would have hoped that gamers had a better understanding of technology than that. And I certainly wasn't trying to "make fun" of you. My honest apologies if I was too much.

I'm sure it would work well with less taxing titles and not as well with bigger titles, but then it wouldn't go very far with promoting their big first party releases if that was the case; only hurt it with ugly and/or choppy streams. If it worked with ANY titles or not, it still feels deceitful for Nintendo to claim it's "not fun" when gamers clearly do enjoy them.

Knushwood Butt1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

They won't get it because it's primarily made up of people swearing and being generally offensive while hiding behind an alias.

I've watched a few things on PS4 out of curiosity to see a game that I'm interested in buying, but trying to find a decent host or audience is near impossible.

It's great if you want to watch some psychotic female playing Wolfenstein and screaming, '******* die, ******* die!', while people comment that they want to lick her *****.

Yeah, I bet Nintendo is really down for that...

Knushwood Butt1563d ago

Having said that, it's amusing to see them contradict themselves yet again, in the space of a few days.

Miyamoto sits there telling us that it's going to be great for people to sit around watching someone else play Starfox Wii U, then this...

kabala1563d ago

i can watch twitch through the wii u browser and ustream too. The Wii U can handle it.

Chrischi19881563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

As far as I know the Wii U has a dedicated chip to do stuff like the Wennrowser in the background while the game is turned on and the webbrowser is pretty fast and fluid, so it is not some bad chip. So I guess it should be capable, capturing and streaming is not that demanding as some people make it to be, I could do that with my smartphone.

kingPoS1562d ago (Edited 1562d ago )

Maybe Nintendo can do what Microsoft did: make the next sdk have the gamepad become completely optional the devs. The gamepad "IS" nice, but does it have to be used in every game?

Gateway MT6706 2008

iplay1up21562d ago

That is not true, and the Wii U has been proving it can handle far more than people were giving it credit for.

I personally could care less about Twitch.

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Metallox1563d ago (Edited 1563d ago )

I have seen old PCs that can handle streaming functionalities while playing perfectly. Oh sorry, the reply was for pwnsause_returns

Utalkin2me1563d ago

Streaming in HD and playing today's games on the same machine requires a stout machine. And having at least a 3MB upload.

Derpy1563d ago

Good point. I've streamed HD gaming from an iPod Touch 5 with only 512megs of memory before with no lagging or loss of quality. It's funny how many people on here think they know what they're talking about. I guess blind fanboyism breed ignorance if all the times I've seen people on this sight making up stuff against systems they don't like regardless of the brand, is any indication.

With the right software even the PS3 and Xbox 360 could probably stream game-play in HD. The only real hurdle for live streaming on any of today's systems would be transfer bandwidth. This is usually no problem when live streaming over a local network, but to do it over the internet you need a fairly decent connection. Oh and of course decent software to do it. A lot of developers today don't seem to know how to optimize their code very well so often more power is needed than should be necessary for their software.

As for the headline, I personally enjoy watching people play Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart and Smash Brothers a lot more than I enjoy watching FPS, but maybe that's just me.

deafdani1563d ago

@Neonridr: the Wii U isn't capable of playing a videogame AND stream from Netflix at the same time, can it?

I think that's where pwnsause_returns was coming from. He doesn't think the Wii U can play a videogame and stream it to Twitch simultaneously. And, to be honest, neither do I.

Would love to be wrong, though.

Neonridr1562d ago

yeah I have no clue on that one. I'm not a hardware engineer so I couldn't say that the Wii U isn't capable to do both. That could very well be the reason they are skirting the issue.

You would think the better response would be "We are not looking into Twitch functionality at this time".

Jrmy841563d ago

I actually enjoy watching people make fools of themselfs on ps4, so funny to watch intellectually impaired morons:-)

Ripsta7th1563d ago

I think you might be describing yourself there...

Whatever4Ever1563d ago

I agree completely, idiot people having there ps4 cameras pointed at nothing, or acting stupid. Ripsta7th you just proved his point, Ur just not on video.

3-4-51563d ago

* People with a Wii U will most likely be too busy ACTUALLY playing the game instead of watching games.

LOL_WUT1563d ago

Yeah, thats why they created MKTV and added video sharing to Miiverse for MK8... ;)

SuperBlur1563d ago

that is the whole point of live streaming , you show the people who dont have said games/console , what it is all about and go from there.

herbs1563d ago

The Wii U was not designed with this in mind and probably would struggle if they tried to implement it now. Honestly this feature isn't that appealing for most gamers and Nintendo has always been more focused on people playing or watching together in the same space anyway.

Gamer19821563d ago

LOL WiiU cant do it because of memory restrictions.. Pure and simple..

WiiUsauce1563d ago

You can still stream twitch on Wii U. I was doing it for e3

Shnazzyone1562d ago (Edited 1562d ago )

or, ya know, stream the game with your own equipment...

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Zodiac1563d ago

From a business standpoint, i think ignoring Twitch isn't too smart, but i also don't think watching raw gameplay for a long time is all that fun.

It's what made the smash invitational fun was the roaring, the commentating, announcers, fan voting etcc.. it was a real even that i could watch over a stream.

Majin-vegeta1563d ago

I'm sorry but this is stupid.Twitch allows your games to be seen by Millions of people which could result in more sales.

SMH Ninty! 1 step forward 2 steps back

OrangePowerz1563d ago

Let the users decide if it's fun or not don't force your views and opinions on the consumer.

LordDhampire1563d ago

I do not use twitch, nor do I watch videos of a game or trailers, BUT all my gamer friends sit and watch it constantly.

This is why nintendo is failing as a company, while twitch isn't big in japan americans love it yet nintendo has catered their whole system around their japanese ideals. They need a new CEO and some fresh foreign leadership to pump new blood into it.

First step is to make a realiable, easy to use network infrastructure and payment systems, I shouldn't have to buy seperate point cards for a wii u and a 3ds.