The Xbox brand is running downhill entering the industry's most important trade show, and it's all due to big software news and that new $399 price tag.
Yup...thats what it feels like so far.
I feel all are on even ground. IMO Sony will have the most to show. Sony has...uncharted..project beast..last guardian.. Maybe gow4...the order..drive club..Sony bend game..Sony JP game..none of thos are fps games BTW...but sony does have that massive fps port from PC coming not to mention vita games.. Psnow..and morphious. Plus more exclusive indies and better versions of 3rd party games. Nintendo hopefully will show Zelda metriod and Mario RPG along with SSM and 3ds games....maybe even starfox. X1 will have what trywiz said below. I say all have momentum. Just because Xbox has a new SKU doesn't mean they gained momentum... If anything its less attractive at that price..they should have made it 399.99 with kinect and 349 without. Being the same price as a more powerful machine is still not attractive.
@kingthrash No doubt, the ps4 will have more (things) to show. However I think that MS will have more GAMES to show (excluding Indies). I have to add the indie statement in there these days because people are now counting indies as big exclusives.
@MELMAN you speak the truth. I don't get why indie games are so important now. I do understand that the games like The stanley parable provide unique experiences but they just aren't big players like Forza or like uncharted. I am a PC gamer so I can appreciate the encouragement of having low budget dev teams release games but lets not start treating them like the big boys for the sake of pure competition between the xbox and playstation. It is possible for an indie game to blow up like minecraft but until then, I see them as a bonus.
Excluding indies? Those are not games? Psnow neither?..why? Because you can already buy what psnow has to offer...but what halo1234 remakes counts? Smh Indies=games so does rereleases. What you exclude games to be right?..which is still wrong ..tell me 1 thing..what non inde games will ms have...what will Sony have? Sony has more 1st party studios. Smmfh right now..Sony already announced more new IPS...how many NEW IPS will ms have? List please.
Its all downhill from here XoXoXoXo
Plus today the announced that June XboxOne software dev kit gives devs access to more GPU bandwidth. "Yes, the additional resources allow access to up to 10 per cent additional GPU performance. We're committed to giving developers new tools and flexibility to make their Xbox One games even better by giving them the option to use the GPU reserve in whatever way is best for them and their games." http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... MS is really hitting that momentum heading to E3
@kingthrash Anything positive about X1 you seem to come on and think that it is not possible. Take off your goggles and read around the month of May was positive for X1 and now leading into June so is the June. Note: I feel all will have something for all is.
I love indies and xbox1 but will never choose an indie over a true AAA game. Also Sony looks to have great games being created as well as MS.
I said all will have something to show at e3...lower your detectors and aim it at the silly guys who say indies aren't games...or that ms has more games...those are both lies and I speak out on liers. That's why no one puts up lists EVER. I'm no fanboy I'm a gamer and I hate when people downplay games indies are games. Respect is due for the devs who make incredible on a budget. I won't say indies are a better brand of games..but they are games. Some are better then the AAA games out there... They rate better too. Metacritic this month has transistor besting watchdogs and wolfingsten ...towerfall bested tf and infamous.. Smh give credit where its due...even resogun had the best score of all launch games. Smmfh. Fake gamers ignore all games...real gamers play all games..enjoy and understand games. I'm done with this convo though. Too much fan war going around today..... Oh and please don't mix me with fanboys my comment was about all consoles at e3 and indie GAMES. Not who's better than who.
@ king thrash Sony does not have more first party studios than Microsoft...sony has 13 first party studios and Microsoft has 22 +
@ king thrash Sony does not have more first party studios than Microsoft...sony has 13 first party studios and Microsoft has 22 + http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Microsoft studios http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Sony studios Also as of right now Microsoft first party has put out 5 new ips I lied it's 6 Project spark (not in the original list) Max Fighter within Power star golf Loco cycle Project totem Mind u they might not be big sellers but they are all new ip also don't forget that Titanfall Sunset overdrive Quantum break Ryse D4 (not in the original list) Are all new ip...that's 11 new ip in one year since release (besides quantum break and possibly D4) and we haven't even made it to e3 yet
OK so now indies count? Lol now put up Sony's list and compare. Oh and tf is not a exclusive BTW. Remember to include the indies...lol I'll go grab some popcorn.
I don't get what everyone's obsession with pre-E3 momentum is. Shouldn't what matters be what happens at E3? Every year there's a ton of momentum for a certain team for the Superbowl, for a certain fighter in a big PPV MMA or Boxing match, etc. The fighters and teams with the most momentum are not always the ones who come out on top. The same applies to E3 and every other big event where competition is involved.
@ kingthrash There's ur list and Lol ur not to bright....non of those game I listed are indies...they are all published by Microsoft....indies mean that they are independently developed...so if I said super time force or nutjitsu then those would be new ip tht are indies...every game I listed is either Microsoft first party or a triple A exclusive to Microsoft u should learn to read and do research Now please give me a list of announced sony first party and triple A exclusives that are new ip for the ps4....I'll even help you out Knack Driveclub H1z1 Unannounced Project beast MM new ip GG new ip Sony bend new ip Naughty dog (may have a new ip coming out they are rumored to reveal 3 other games other than uncharted 4) I may need help because I don't know of any third party exclusives that sony has....if anyone knows I would prechiate it...Pls list new ips...so right now we have three announced and 5 unannounced that's looks like 8 new ip so far for sony Mind u I didn't even list the unannounced games that Microsoft may release with all the new studios they have...u know there working on something I did out up a wiki for the the two systems first party...the games are in the list....and please don't bring indies as new ip....I'm glad u love indies but not everyone does...I haven't played an indie on my ps4 yet... @ zeuanimals Actually I knew someone would say that...no one wants to give Microsoft credit...there first party studios and if u say sony has more first party studios they don't those 22 are for gaming they may not have made any games but there for gaming that's why there is 2 list gaming and non gaming on the Wikipedia page
Wiki the games lists please...Iwould but im on a phone.
@Lawboy: Actually read that list for MS, they're counting studios that devote their time to R&D, the cloud, network restructuring, etc. Those are not studios that work on games and they will likely never work on games. MS has 9 real gaming studios, 3 of which are primarily Kinect studios plus Rare which is also a Kinect studio now and hopefully not anymore since Kinect has been dropped. Sony has 12 and 3 of them have sub-studios. Sony Japan in particular has 2 sub-studios as well as the core studio. That's 16 fully functional gaming studios.
Above...i wasn't even gunna correct him...I was just gunna let him look misinformed and enjoy my popcorn. People who just use google tend to look past the details. Every real gamer knows ms has less gaming studios..smh.
@gamernova because indie studios have the potential to become a AAA developer one day. Just think about it for a minute. Bungie started small and look where they are. If only some people would use their brain.
@Lawboy: People don't want to give credit to MS for having 22 studios? More like people don't want to give credit where credit is not due. MS does not have 22 gaming studios, atleast not by my and most people's definition. My definition of a gaming studio is a studio that makes games. Simple. If you consider studios that will never work on games as gaming studios, then my basement might as well be a gaming studio. Also, this is Wikipedia, some random joe wrote that and put non-gaming studios as gaming studios. The Sony Wiki doesn't even have the studios that work on R&D, network infrastructure, PSNow, etc. and if it did, I wouldn't count them as gaming studios because they don't make games.
Xbox One Exclusive = 17 Microsoft exclusive = 9 Console exclusive or timed = 11/2 Multiplatform = 135 Playable = 42 available to purchase (9 of these are exclusive to Xbox One) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... PS4 Exclusive = 28 (1 of these are free-to-play) Sony Exclusive = 20 Console exclusive and/or timed = 70/1 (8 of these are free-to-play) Multiplatform = 130 (1 of these is free-to-play) Playable = 76 available to purchase (10 of these are exclusive to PS4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
I always think Sony has the most exciting looking games and puts on great shows at E3. Not a knock on Nintendo or Microsoft, but Sony delivers the best with games in my opinion. I am interested to see what this E3 is like, it will probably determine what I buy. I am actually very excited to see what Nintendo will bring too.
Thanks bitby....lawboy didn't want to post that. Smh...
It's not that indie games are not games, that's silly but 95% of them are stat filler games and frankly are no better quality then what kids & Grandmas play on their cell phone while waiting at the dentist office. Even some of the great ones ate not on par with the depth of big titles. Fun is a relative term but you pay more ($60) because of the typical assets/resources used to create those games regardless of personal opinion on its rating/score. Given this logic I don't think there's anything wrong with saying 'meh or discounting indie games when looking forward to games for a $400-$500 home console. I enjoy them but I wouldn't put them on lists with AAA games. Sure today's indies are tomorrow's AAA devs, yeah and truthfully it's like saying today's high school ball players are tommorrow's pro's, true but how many? I support indies if their talent stands out but I don't automatically give them credit until they wow me, hell some AAA devs don't wow me but I just don't get the indie hype when last gen 360 had more than I ever wanted, that's cool, some are a nice bonus, then there are a handful of rare gems but none were on my wish list as a deciding factor for buying a next gen console. Scream, yell and shake your head all you want but I think micro is poised to have a great E3, sonys been relatively quiet but that could be part of their master plan to wow ps fans with some huge surprises. HOWEVER, make no mistake, I will guarantee if sony has another E3 hyping indies the majority of the time then I think alot of sony fans will be very dissapointed.
Lol 4show...smh I knew you or truefan would come and display your radically bias opinion. I dunno how many times y'all gunna flip flop your opinions. I remember when ms announced they had 200+ indies and you were all giddy...now its....this.
smh smh smmfh. ^^ That's annoying.
@Lawboy2 What's the difference between indie games and games like max, project totem, loco cycle, power star golf, d4, and fighter within? These games may be published by microsoft, but they're low budget xbla games. Fighter within is just an awful game. I cant't believe that they charged money for this game.
Fairly sure Fighter Within is a Ubisoft game anyway, though I can't be bothered to check the fact.
Bubbling up bitbydeath for slamming down the cold hard truth in Xbone fanboys faces. Lawboy, you really ought to read those studios on the MS list, I knew another Xbone fanboy who reeled me off that list and there are quite a few you can instantly discount because they almost have nothing to do with gaming specifically. Hell some even are devoted to windows mobile, not Xbone.
Try harder next time lol
@ Kingthrash So now Indies are being counted towards MS exclusives games? Funny how this changes whenever it suits the discussion... How about the games announed at Gamescom, or does Europe not count? RIME? Shadow of the Beast? Everybody's Gone to the Rapture? Not to mention the unannouned titles that are coming form MM, SSM, Quantic Dream, Sony London, Bend... H1Z1...? I have still to count titles like Outlast, War Thunder, War Frame, ResoGun, Dont's Starve... as these can be found on PC. There is no point in Sony showing all their cards not when the market doesn't need them to. They are in the lead and wil; no doubt announce 5 million sold through to consumers next week. MS on the other hand MUST play all gaming cards, as their backs are to a wall.
The ignorance in this thread is so thick I am figuratively choking to death! I don't care how many announced projects Sony or Microsoft have in the works. How many do both have that have yet to even been announced!? There are a TON of fantastic games coming out on both platforms, all of you idiot fanboy's grow up and realize that the best games will not be on only one console. There will be a rather even split at the end of the generation. Yes at this exact moment I am looking forward to more PS4 games, but that could all change drastically on Monday. Go Gaming! Xbox, Playstation, Wii, and PC. I don't care who the F makes or publishes the game, if it looks like fun I'm playing it! GROW THE F*** UP EVERYONE! Most of you should be ashamed of yourselves for how narrow minded you look. If you are true gamer's like you all claim, except the truth. There are fantastic games on every device!
"I have to add the indie statement in there these days because people are now counting indies as big exclusives" Unlike last gen, when nobody made a big deal out of the exclusivity of SuperMeatBoy, Limbo, etc, etc. They were just those itty bitty, unimportant indie games that didn't count. /s
So far they've got everyone so hyped and ready for their conference..I bet they are going to have a hell of a show at E3.its going to be one to remember. I've heard Phil is keeping a tight lid on everything from here on and its amazing how much they've already announced and i wonder how much they've got planned cos even if they give us gameplay demos of halo5, forza horizon 2 and sunset overdrive on stage they,ll still have over an hour to show more and right now no one knows what they've got unannounced.what other projects are their first and 2nd party devs working on?, what are their new studios going to announce?,who are their new 2nd and 3rd party dev partners?what do they have planned for japan and what about their vr tech?. So many unknowns. I'm so psyched for the show. I also agree with Melman. Sony is pushing ps4, ps3 and psvita they will definitly have more stuff to show across the board but my guess is that MS will show more AA titles.. In all its going to be an exciting show.