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Forza Horizon 2: Resolution, Framerate, Music, & More Detailed | IGN

IGN: "IGN sits down with Forza Horizon 2 creative director Ralph Fulton to know more about the upcoming Xbox One and Xbox 360 racer."

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KionicWarlord2221268d ago

1080p 30 fps. Wonder how people feel about that after coming from forza 5 being 1080 60 fps.

GarrusVakarian1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

It's no big deal, the first game was 30fps and that was amazing, even when the mainline Forza games were 60fps. This will be no different. The open world, combined with the weather, day/night cycle, fully dynamic lighting is why this game is 30fps, and i think they made the right choice with this type of racer, i wouldn't have wanted them to sacrifice those things, and possible downgraded the graphics even further, just to reach 60fps.

For the mainline games, 60fps all day. But for this? 1080p 30fps is fine. In my opinion anyway....

Naga1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Completely agree. I generally think 30fps is sufficient for arcade racers such as Horizon, NFS, and Drive Club. However in racing simulators like Gran Turismo, Forza Motorsport, and Project CARS, 60fps is practically mandatory.

GarrusVakarian1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

@Naga

My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong, i would prefer 60fps across the board...but i don't mind 30fps as much in arcade racers than i would for sims.

But that's enough talk about res and framerate, i just wanna see some gameplay! Bring on Friday.

Volkama1268d ago

Forza on the 360 ran at 60fps, for the sake of the physics engine.

Forza Horizon on the 360 eschewed that and toned down the sim in favour of visual and design flare.

The decision today is no different to what it was then, so they were always likely to hit the same conclusion.

Boody-Bandit1268d ago

Like I said 2 weeks ago to truefan1

http://n4g.com/news/1512722...

30fps is fine for racing games like Horizon, PGR, NFS, and yes, Drive Club. I'm really looking forward to a new Horizon. I must've logged 300hrs into the last version.

kryteris1268d ago

i agree, although feel like it should be 40 fps as with 30 you most likely will experience a spike drop down to 20 or less.

truefan11268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Forza Horizon 2 sounds like the most ambitious racing game ever. I can't wait to see the trailer Friday.

PS i still prefer 60fps, but if Playground would have had to sacrifice some of the ambitious details, locked 30fps will suffice. Either way FH2=racer of the year.

4Sh0w1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Well its open world, so not being confined to stay on track and allowed to free roam requires alot of resources, still I'd take 900p for 60fps because I just think it's important for racers to have that crisp sense of speed....but maybe 900p wouldn't have made much difference and I wouldn't want them to risk limiting the scope of FH2's world for higher fps, so I'm sure they are making the right choices for the type of game they have in mind.

Here's what I liked best from the interview:

"We’ve spent a lot of time on our weather system; that took a lot of technology and art resources to build from the ground up. But I think building the world is the biggest challenge.”

“It’s a massive world, and the undertaking to build not just the roads, but everything off them on either side – farmland, crops, hills, mountains, forests – is a huge undertaking. I think that’s the thing that people will get long term value out of as they play the game. There are always new things to find [and] new places to explore.”

“I hope that people will take away the sense that this is an incredibly social game in every sense,” he says. “We’ve rebuilt the game from the ground up to make sure that there’s no single-player and multiplayer. There’s one game, whether you’re playing solo with Drivatars or online with your friends, you’re always progressing. You’re always moving forward. You’re always meeting new people. We’d like it to be a game that you play with friends, maybe even a game you make new friends in.”

Rimeskeem1268d ago

Wait so having DC be 30 FPS is not ok but this is fine?

GarrusVakarian1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

@Truefan

No no no, don't come in here trying to act like you are ok with 30fps. Here's a previous comment from you -
"PS I agree with people below, we have to right the ship. ***Racing***, fighting, and shooter should be 60fps, ***no exceptions***"

NO EXCEPTIONS, huh? That's some textbook hypocritical goal post moving right there.

"Either way FH2=racer of the year."

You've played DriveClub and Project Cars already? Damn, im jealous.

ziggurcat1268d ago

@ truefan1:

"Racing, fighting, and shooter should be 60fps, no exceptions."

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

what happened to "no exceptions"? or did the goalpost just move because a racing game on xbone is going to be 30fps?

LonDonE1268d ago

Agreed, but burnout paradise was native 720p at a rock solid 60fps and open world too!! and that was on last gen!!!
i wish criterion would make a next gen burn out paradise they should be able to give us native 1080p at 60fps while still being open world!

Or even if its native 720p or 900p as long as its 60fps! i think they would make a awesome burnout paradise game for next gen!
Burnout paradise was AWESOME! had great graphics, was buttery smooth and most importantly has great game play.
I dont think anyone here can say burnout paradise had bad graphics in any way?

So if criterion made a next gen paradise game with the added horse power i think they would be able to achieve great results.

On topic i am looking forward to horizon 2 on XBOX ONE.
Looks great but i cant wait to see real time rendered engine game play!
Drive club looks good but i dont know why i just dont feel it! i will give the free PS PLUS edition a go and if i like it i will buy it, but for forza horizon 2 its a day one purchase for me.

And i know all the Sony fan boy kids will down vote me for saying that, but i dont really care.
Unlike them i own and game on ALL PLATFORMS, and i am a adult who understands we are allowed to have different tastes and opinions!

I dont know why Forza 5 gets so much flak, yes i understand the content is thin compared to the previous game but what is their is AWESOME! the game look incredible at native 1080p rock solid 60fps, and for a launch game is SEXY as ever.

I think the next mainline Forza will be a stunner, but so will the next Gran turismo game on PS4. I am a core gamer who loves both franchises, I love forza and GT, and so buy and play both. I feel sorry for people who cant or wont play the competitors games, all platforms are looking awesome as of now, WiiU has some great games on it and more coming up ahead, and the PS4 and X1 also have the inevitable hit franchises coming.

ITS A GREAT TIME TO BE A CORE GAMER!!

purp13m0nk3y1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

@naga

How is Forza Motorsport in anyway a "Sim"?

Don't get me wrong. I've always enjoyed the Forza games. But they are more arcade racer than sim. The driving model is way to simplistic and inaccurate.

They are very fun, easy and accessible though. Just hate it when people class games like that with true Sims.

Sorry, back OT. Never played the original Horizons. So I'm definitely going to check this out. I really like the open world racer idea.

Master-H1268d ago

Dem moving goal posts @truefan1..

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aviator1891268d ago

Difference = forza horizon 2 is open world.

GribbleGrunger1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Thank Christ for that. Finally, 1080p/30fps is acceptable for a racer. Perhaps now the Driveclub threads on Gaf will be enjoyable again.

Kayant1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Maybe not as the VS threads to come will be glorious once we see footage on Friday(maybe) and at E3.

Well said Lukas_Japonicus btw much agreed.

Septic1268d ago

Spare a thought for Xbox gamers in..well....virtually every other thread p__p

DevilOgreFish1268d ago

I don't think Drive club's map could compare, Forza horizon's map was pretty huge, FH2's map will be 3 times bigger.

i'm surprised to see the all the detail they're pushing for this game. the screens look amazing for an open world title.

GribbleGrunger1268d ago

Have you got any pics of the environments in Horizon? I must have missed them.

Septic1268d ago

@Devil

I don't know about scale, but in terms of visuals, from what has been shown, DC's environments look incredible.

STANK081268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

"Thank Christ for that. Finally, 1080p/30fps is acceptable for a racer. Perhaps now the Driveclub threads on Gaf will be enjoyable again."

But Drive Club isn't an open wor...nvm

Darkstares1268d ago

So you're looking forward to this game or you just wanted to talk about DriveClub?

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KionicWarlord2221268d ago

Oh yeah forgot to got to say this game is gonna be hot guys.

system221268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

people need to learn how to distinguish simulator racer from an arcade racer. a sim needs to be a solid 60 fps to have well.. a better simulation. the physics can only update as fast as the frame rate processes. the physics and car models in sims usually take priority over everything else, thats why the visuals are a bit scaled back, less effects etc. you also notice on Forza 5 that it adds 30 fps, motion blur, depth of field etc to the replays because all the physics are baked in from the race at that point. it doesn't need to run the math anymore.

an arcade racer like horizons, driveclub etc don't run nearly as much simulation so 30 fps is not a big deal. this lets them crank up effects like motion blur, lighting etc because what gives you the impact here is more based on visual cues, not sim cues. so to me 30 fps in an arcade racer is not that bad because you are getting crazy better visuals in place of.

HaveAsandwich1268d ago

so is 30 fps for racers acceptable, or isn't it.....

Nolando1268d ago

For a game like Forza Motorsport and Gran turismo 60 FPS is a must. but since this is an open world game, a locked and non stuttering 30 FPS will still provide a great experience along with full 1080P and next gen effects.

Nolando1268d ago

This is 100% acceptable and expected. the first one was the same Locked at 30 FPS and it still was a blast to play plus I can still remember how thrilling it was to take my viper on a long stretch of highway with a friend and race down at top speed and see who could avoid traffic the longest oh man it was so exhilarating!

I cannot wait to get my hands on Horizon 2, I need to finish the last bit of the first Horizon but I love the game and this one looks like its going to be way better!

Dlacy13g1268d ago

Given the first Horizon ran at 30fps its not a deal breaker.

nate2541268d ago

Don't care, if it makes the game better then do it.

BallsEye1268d ago

This is an OPEN WORLD game with amazing weather system, realtime day/night cycle, Dynamic Lighting (probably advanced GI) and drop in-out MP universe. That is A LOT! To remind you "some other racers" that are arcade and run on closed tracks, without dynamic lighting, weather, realtime day/night run at 30fps. Forza Horizon is going way beyond.

DigitalRaptor1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Sorry.

DriveClub has a weather system, day/night cycle, dynamic lighting, and a dynamic menu built-in to the experience that allows smooth transition from single to multiplayer.

Like I've said, it's going to be very difficult for ANY developer on consoles to outclass the visual fidelity of the environments and vehicles in DriveClub. They are simply the most detailed and immersive tracks and cars ever released on consoles. Good luck to Playground in matching the visual fidelity of DriveClub. It's not close to happening, but good luck to them and their vision.

Each of these developers have their vision, but it's just funny to see the Xbox fanboys flip-flop. One day it's important/essential - the next day, it's not.

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ScottyHoss1267d ago

sounds like a realistic version of Rivals..

killzone6191268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

when will devs realise 30fps sucks for racers? like foreal, all FPS games this gen are 60fps. Why arent racer devs making the shift??

gameplay > visuals

60fps= less control latency, better sense of speed, smoother gameplay

brich2331268d ago

Have you played the first Forza Horizon? Its an open world game with a solid locked 30fps with no drops and theres nothing wrong with 30fps in Forza Horizon. check digital foundry for more http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

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mhunterjr1268d ago

Man, I'm waaay too excited for this game. I can't wait for the big reveal.

aviator1891268d ago

Very amped about the music part of the game.

BG115791268d ago

It's going to be funny how some fans will react to this news.
Some said that racing games should obligatory be 60fps or else it would be unplayable...
I'm waiting for the reactions now.

For me this game looks promising.

Blaze9291268d ago

a "fan" won't react to this. A hater will.

system221268d ago

simulators need to be 60 fps + arcade racers can be whatever they want because the physics aren't priority,

creatchee1268d ago

I imagine that the reactions will be similar to those seen in this thread.

http://n4g.com/news/1500777...

tl;dr Acceptance.

No_Limit1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

A couple of important note from the article from the developer:

“I think what we did on Horizon was demonstrate that, and this is really important, a locked frame rate that’s absolutely solid and never drops is the most important thing for our game,” explains Fulton. “30 [frames-per-second] actually enables us to realise that experience.”

“I think I remember that’s always a hot-button topic, until a game comes out and people go, ‘Oh, this actually really works.’ But 1080p was an absolute must for us; it’s the benchmark for next-gen.”

Yes! 1080p and locked 30fps sounds great when you add in dynamic lighting, day/night cycle and weather, not to mention that it is open-world.

mcstorm1268d ago

I agree. Should be intresting to see what this game looks like on the Xbox one and the 360 for that matter as for me Horizon was a great looking game for an open world racer and even though it was only 30fps it played amazing too.

Really excited for this game. I got an xbox one over the PS4 because Forza 5 was out on day one and I said I would wait for Driver Club to come out on the PS4 before picking it up but now Horizon has been announced I may wait another 6 months or so before I grab a PS4 for Driver Club as im more excited about Horizon as I loved the 1st one and for me was one of the best games of last gen.

GameDev11268d ago

Drive club has dynamic lightning and day and night cycle, possibly weather

But what I heard from N4G is that all racing games should be 1080p 60fps, so open world is no excuse

testerg351268d ago

Actually the reason xb1 users got on DC is because Sony users kept saying how all their games are 1080p/60fps.

aragon1268d ago (Edited 1268d ago )

Drive club has no day and night cycle

http://gamingbolt.com/drive...

And this whole 1080/60 dilemma was started by Sony fanboys not Sony gamers, and Sony themselves didn't help, forza horizon 2 is open world also not sure if it will look has good as drive club but if they manage to have so many dynamics and a steady frame rate it's all good

DigitalRaptor1268d ago

@ testerg35

LOL, if you believe that.

@aragon

Did you even read the article you posted, or just read the headline and think it's true? Only people who didn't understand what they were talking about think it doesn't have a day/night cycle. You can EASILY set and customize races to use actual real-time cycles. It's just not the default option, and it doesn't auto-sync to your real time zone.

And no. Forza Horizon 2 will not touch DriveClub visually. Not much in the driving space will, for the next couple of years.

GameDev11267d ago (Edited 1267d ago )

At aragon, yes Drive club has day and night cycle, You set how you want it yourself

Here's a gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@testerg35

No, Sony fanboys said that. Sensible gamers knew games won't achieve 1080p 60fps stable in this early generation, but that is still more of a norm for the PS4 than the Xbox One

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