GearNuke: "IGN's Ryan McCaffrey ensures that the game is truly 'next-gen' on the Xbox One."
Ok then let's rock!
wouldn't take Ryan McCaffrey's word on anything.
Well that's mighty ignorant of you.
wow, Really dude? Ryan is an accomplished man. I would take his word for it.
Of course "you" wouldn't
@Dudebro90 "Well that's mighty IGNorant of you" :P
Seeing as he is in charge of the IGN First program and the one who went to get a preview on it I don't see why people shouldn't believe him.
@NewMonday... why would you not take his word on this? You think he is lying about them telling him that the xbox 360 version is a port from another studio? Jesus, take the tinfoil hat off.
Well I mean if what he's saying is confirmed then.. I mean...
@NewMonday Could you elaborate why Ryan McCaffrey isn't to be taken on his word.Does this mean that you don't believe that he saw any footage, or that he has a biased oppinion towards the ps4 or xb1, or do you think he doesn't know how a next gen game should look like, or should we just take your word on this?
@Charybdis because he is the model of professionalism.. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... http://www.psu.com/forums/s...
LOL, the PS4 [email protected] like Newmonday were also calling Ryan McCaffrey a liar after breaking the news that NBA 2k14 on XB1 is 1080p and 60fps like the PS4 version. The amount of troll on that tread is mind boggling. http://n4g.com/news/1379380... And guess what? NBA 2k14 is indeed 1080p and 60fps on XB1. :)
Again another example why the bubble system is broken. How did this person end up with 9 bubbles? We need to revamp this site badly and bring in people who know what they're talking about.
Um, Forza 5 is also on Xbox One. That is next (current) gen only game. So I think we can use that as a baseline. I can understand that people want current gen games only (so that they get the full treatment and don't have to be pull back for last gen limitations.) But if that is the case its up to the consumers to help developers figure out where to invest their time.
Smart move MS.
Whew! I guess that's that then. Anyone who figured this cross-gen decision was a disappointment can chill out.
@No_Limit dude! did you even bother reading your own link? I never commented on that subject. this says a lot of things about you.
@NewMonday, "dude! did you even bother reading your own link? I never commented on that subject. this says a lot of things about you. " LOL, do you know how to read a sentence? I said "the PS4 [email protected] LIKE Newmonday were also calling Ryan McCaffrey a liar" LOL, this says a lot of things about you. Hard to believe, but there are others like you around here, just with less bubbles, of course. ;) Edit @Newmonday below, Sorry, I don't have 10 bubbles to reply to you below. If you stop trolling on every positive XB1 news will you little soliloquy, no one is going to call you out are to try to prove that you are incorrect. You are saying the Ryan McCaffrey can't be trusted and I am just implying a link to state otherwise. If you don't want to get called on, then stop trolling on xbox news. It is that simple.
@everyone stop feeding NewMonday. He's a troll and always will be. We know he hates Microsoft. Plus if y'all disliked him so much, bubble down the shit out of him. Like me :)
@No_Limit so you were just personally attacking me and that was just a random link. explains a lot @azure1990 unlike you I don't go around calling people trolls
@NewMonday " http://www.neogaf.com/forum... I've never seen you get riled up and call somebody unprofessional who writes hyperbole about things you like or want to play. " http://www.psu.com/forums/s... I don't follow why this calls into question Ryan's professionalism? Whether you consider him an Xbox fanboy or not, his scores of 8.1 for each version are pretty right there in terms of GameRankings and Metacritic averages: PS3 http://www.gamerankings.com... 81.90 http://www.metacritic.com/g... 80 PS4 http://www.gamerankings.com... 82.59 http://www.metacritic.com/g... 83 Wouldn't a completely biased and unprofessional Xbox fanboy have scored them significantly lower than the average instead of pretty much hitting the nail on the head?
@creatchee Point#1 was he gave the PS4/PS3 versions the exact same score despite the PS4 version being massively better. Point#2 is he is the xbox editor and has a vocal MS platform preference and it was unprofessional for him to review the game in the first place. I thought that was obvious but apparently I need to make an appendix to further explain my comments. @No_Limit just stating an opinion in an open forum, at least my opinion is genuine, and my points are specific and I'm not the first or last person to call out Ryan McCaffrey.
@NewMonday "Point#1 was he gave the PS4/PS3 versions the exact same score despite the PS4 version being massively better." Maybe, but "massively better" is massively subjective. Also, grades are given relative to the platform that they are on, not to other versions of the game. Or at least that is the way it should work. Would you have been happy if he gave the PS3 version a 75 instead? "Point#2 is he is the xbox editor and has a vocal MS platform preference and it was unprofessional for him to review the game in the first place." Okay. Think about what you just said, because it has implications. First, that means that the PlayStation Editor, who has a vocal PlayStation preference (as well as any of his contemporaries) are unprofessional if they review any PlayStation games. Bias is not only important when it serves your purposes, and goes both for the negative and the positive sense of the word. By your definition of bias, you can't trust those PS reviewers because they will judge PS games too positively. Or is that not a problem for you? Also, if somebody's vocal preference for a particular platform disqualifies them from being a credible source, then why should anybody listen to a single word that you have to say about Xbox related stuff. You said it yourself - you are unprofessional. Unreliable. Irrelevant. "I thought that was obvious but apparently I need to make an appendix to further explain my comments." It's painfully obvious that your line of thinking isn't exactly "normal".
@ New Monday Ryan McCaffrey's words I trust. Your comments on N4G I don't. I still wonder why you have so many bubbles with all the trolling you do on Xbox articles.
@creatchee - group editors should stay within their groups and communicate with the particular platform fanbase. - Ryan McCaffrey is just the tip of the Iceberg, the whole of IGN is more of a marketing outlet than real news website. "if somebody's vocal preference for a particular platform disqualifies them from being a credible source, then why should anybody listen to a single word that you have to say about Xbox related stuff. You said it yourself - you are unprofessional. Unreliable. Irrelevant" don't care what you think, responding to you as a courtesy.
@NewMonday, LOL, The Forza twitter people just confirmed that Sumo Digital will be making the X360 port of Forza Horizon 2. Forza Motorsport @ForzaMotorsport: X1 version of Horizon 2 is built on the Forza 5 engine, led by Playground. X360 version is built on Horizon 1 engine, led by Sumo Digital. Hey that sounds familiar, wait...that is what McCaffrey said a couple hours ago. https://twitter.com/ForzaMo... I think you owe Mr. McCaffrey an apology unless you think the Forza people are lying too.
@No_Limit not until we see actual footage of the 2 versions, a second developer just ports the code and assets and dose not build the game from the ground up, the resources will be built to scale and that will hold the game back. their is a reason BatmanAK is next gen only and AC will have 2 different old gen/new gen games, if Ryan McCaffrey was forthcoming he would address that instead of obfuscating, he makes the console warriors happy but is disingenuous to regular gamer.
sorry but i would have to agree with newmonday and take ryan mcgiraffe neck opinion with a grain of salt because just like colin minoraty they are both are very biased toward their console of choice.
NewMonday is just doing the usual MariaHelfuria style of downplaying of positive X1 news, that's just what she does. Just ignore. The X1 version will be dev'd by the original Forza Horizon team with all the next gen bells and whistles, while the 360 version will be ported by another team. Awesome! I got to hand it to micro this is a great decision given that Forza5 was only on X1, some continued support for 360 here and there is a good idea. At some point though that's got to end, last gen has had its time.
so its gona be 1080p/60fps and have realistic weather, night/day cycle, physics and more? I doubt that.
So with what happened to F5, we should expect same assets being used from Forza Horizon 1 but with HD reskin.
Please elaborate. Forza 5 used all new assets for the cars, that's why there were so few in comparison to Forza 4. The only exception were the ~25 cars that could be explored in 'vista mode' on Forza 4, as those were effectively previews of the new assets we'd be seeing on the race tracks of F5.
Its prob safe to say that FH2 will use the FM4 engine on the 360 just as it will use the FM5 engine on XB1. Nothing wrong with taking a working engine and fine tuning it to wring out more performance.
this games looks interesting might get this instead of F5, or the crew
Looking forward to tomorrows preview, with so little information it is hard to make a choice between racing games.
Based on the forza 5 engine... isn't that based on the forza engines from last gen?
Isn't the Forza 5 engine based on the Forza 3 engine? @SuperLupe: No, I don't really care what engine UC4 is using. Actually gotten pretty bored with the series.
No. And even if. We know you dont care, just like you dont care Uncharted 4 is using the same last gen engine.
Forza 5 level car detail, weather system, drive-a-tars, hundreds of cars, open world. LETS GO!!!
So you are ready go? https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I'm ready to go!
That's pretty awesome. The cars in Forza looked stunning! Since X1 Forza engine was created, I have no doubt they have improved it like massively. I made some comments in another article prior to this one....I guess I have to take some of it back. Can't wait to see what the devs do with Horizon :)
lies. They don't want to lose sales on xbone' version that's why they said this. Moreover, looking like Forza 5 not exactly looking next gen to me. Immorals, you would be very stupid if you think MS won't say the same thing as the IGN guy, simply marketing stunts. Cross gen games are known to be limiting the next gen version, maybe you can't comprehend this, I understand.
This came from someone from IGN, no Microsoft. I hear the weather's nice under your Bridge this time of year
Lmao...that was funny dude.
Cross gen games use up more resources, limiting the Dev, yes. But this clearly states the last gen version is being done by a different developer..
If they fail to deliver weather effects, night/day transitions, or a stable of cars and tracks on the level GT has repeatedly beaten them on, they should be ashamed to call the game "next gen".
It's crossgen. No matter how they slice, it's still not built from the ground up for next gen consoles. There's bound to be concessions. Really odd decision their part.
Everybody knows that a game without at least 46 Skylines is a shame! But wait, why dont you day the same about Drive Club? You do realise that Horizon is not a racing sim right? It is MS' answer to Need For Speed, not GT.
You are right. Need for speed despite being on 360 still looked great on ps4 and xbox one. I expect same thing from project cars (pc version) despite it being on xbx one and ps4.the pc version will still look the best. Playground is building the xbx one version of fh2 ground up using a next gen engine and another studio will do the porting to xbx 360. I see no problem with this. These are the same guys who made the first beautiful looking fh and remember that most of the devs at playground are former bizare creations devs. I expect a great looking title from these guys.
Screenshots tomorrow --> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Its not even E3 and my head feels like its gonna explode! lol
"No need to worry, folks. Be happy! : – )" Stay Calm And Keep on Gaming
But I am not getting my JRPGs - got FF13 - so I am a grumpy Godmars >:
@2cents Awesome attitude to have :)
people complaining bout cross gen where you at?
I guess Septic isn't angry anymore?
lol I know I'm surprised that he has yet to comment
It uses the Forza 5 engine. Let's hope they tweak it slightly to get rid of the aliasing. There's too many jaggies for my liking on Forza 5. I'd maybe do a Driveclub & ramp up the graphics more & make it 30fps.
I hope they had time to polish it then because F5 didn't have real time lighting, 2D crowds, and aliasing. It was rushed and it didn't look much better than F4 or GT6.
Awesome is there any other game companies around anymore they seem very hush MS is just going hard.
I vote for a ban of Newmonday from this site.
Nice, glad to see its being developed for X1. Just being ported by an entirely different studio to 360 and that is perfectly fine. Bring on the goodness baby!
This is good news, I'm feeling a little bit better now after hearing that it was cross plat.
yessssssssssssssssss wake me up when its tommorow OoO
I called this on the other thread. Playground is not a big enough dev to do both ports. I expect their version to be the version built from the ground up for XBO and the 360 version being outsourced to a dev that has experience doing HD ports. Respawn essentially did the same thing.
Lol List of exclusives for XBone this year:- Titanfall(also on 360&PC) Halo 2 Aniversary(remaster of a game on Xbox1) Forza Horizon 2(also on 360) SunsetOverdrive List of PS4 exclusives this year :- Infamous SS Final Fantasy 14(also on PS3&PC) The Last Of Us(also on PS3) MLB 14(also on PS3) DriveClub PlanetSide 2(also on PC) Deep Down
does this mean more flat cardboard trees?
NOW we should see how well Driveclub fares against some REAL competition! I want to see that PS4s 50% more power against the "weaker hardware". Not gonna lie, Driveclub looks stunning, but my money on Hor