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Forza Horizon 2 Announced

IGN: "Open-world racing sequel heading to Xbox One and Xbox 360 this fall." (Forza Horizon 2, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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GarrusVakarian  +   619d ago
Cross gen? Why? That's really odd for a 1st party game to be a cross gen release....

Oh well, i bet it will still be amazing. It's not as if they will be making it for 6 separate platforms, like Ubisoft games for example. I doubt it will lose any quality and won't be as compromised as other cross-gen games this gen due to them only having 2 platforms to focus on.

Bring it on! If they can top the first game, then i'll be ecstatic.

Edit: Reading through the article is making me HYPED. "Hundreds of cars", "Southern Europe setting", "weather system".....NICE!
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GamerXD  +   619d ago
Maybe they want to (still) support X360. Damn cross-gen games should go away next year.
sobotz  +   619d ago
I thought NFS Rivals looks great even it's crossgen
Elzer  +   619d ago
Everyone needs to stop complaining. Xbox One is giving you 2 racing titles in a 1 year's time frame. Launch and this upcoming fall. Driveclub has been hyped since day 1 for what? Only to draw attention away from forza 5. Sony has grabbed ignorant people's balls and tied them to their parallelogram consoles. You PS4 fanboys are so useless. Completely useless.
Rainstorm81  +   619d ago
Two Forzas within a year span?.'...I'd prefer the one Drive Club or one Forza honestly

There's almost as many Forzas as GTs and that series started in 96

I'm not a fan of this trend of milking game franchises dry, and its getting worse
ArbitorChief  +   619d ago | Well said
Didn't see anyone complain about MLB the Show 14 for PS4 ;)
GarrusVakarian  +   619d ago
Don't be so defensive bro, no one is "complaining". It's just a little weird to see, is all. Everyone expected this to be a next-gen only, X1 exclusive.
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YoungKingDoran  +   619d ago
Yeah don't be so defensive bro
YoungKingDoran  +   619d ago
Nah you're cool lukas.
I am a little upset by this news too.
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Hellsvacancy  +   619d ago
I complained about Battlefield Hardline being cross gen, no double standards here!
CBaoth  +   619d ago
The whole complaint of cross-gen is stupid to begin with. Frankly, I laugh at console rubes that think these multiplatform companies should cater to a platform with the lowest install base.

Mad because publishers are holding back giving you the best possible version of a game just so they can sell it to the masses? Pfft. Welcome to the world of PC gaming.
aragon  +   619d ago
arbitor u are right mlb the show there was no outrage no twitter feuding now all of a sudden this is a big thing and i bet this complaint originated from fanboys, why cant people just be happy they still supporting 360
dale_denton  +   619d ago
that's a baseball game you idiot. if you want to compare it should be driveclub. is it on ps3? nope.
kennyg3739  +   619d ago
Who cares if it's cross gen, just be Dam happy Microsoft is announcing great games and it's not even E3 yet.
JoGam  +   619d ago
Im happy. But what I don't understand is why announce it now and not at E3? But then at E3 they'll bring it up again as if we didn't Know. I dont know why Sony and MS do that.
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Xsilver  +   619d ago
Announce it before E3 to still show it at E3 :/ what's the Point
Eonjay  +   619d ago
Well, here is the thing. All of the apparent leaks for the Xbox are all coming true. It takes the sting out of things like the Halo announcement when you already know it coming. So, this all goes back to that original leak.
sak500  +   619d ago | Well said

So you'll be happy if MS should just ditch their millions of 360 owners of FH or even others who might be interested in picking it up?

Nothing MS does seems to impress you. I bet if they had announced FH2 exclusive to XB1 you'll be commenting how they ditched the 360 owners.
GarrusVakarian   619d ago | Trolling | show
sak500  +   619d ago | Well said
Really Last gen had it's time? There are in excess of 160Million users on last gen consoles only on 360 and PS3 not counting wii. Not everyone can afford or wants to just buy new console yet.

Also you dont seem to mind when sony said ps3 will have 10 year cycle or when ps2 games were still coming even till last few years.
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sak500  +   619d ago | Well said
You're just bitter cuz you get your @ss beaten in TF. I remember few months back kiking your butt and you left the lobby afterwards.
GarrusVakarian   619d ago | Trolling | show
BlackTar187  +   619d ago
Where was this YEA X360 games mantra the whole last 2 years of the 360 lifecycle?
strifeblade  +   619d ago
If forza horizon was being developed by the same studio and using the same engine across both platforms I would be disappointed as an x1 owner as if the x1 version is being gimmped...

But the fact is its not, the original devs who did horizon 1 are doing the x1 version and are using the forza 5 engine while 360 version is a different dev using the original horizon engine.

So how is this dissapointing? This game has the potential to oust drive club, since both games are Goin arcade sim and will probably be 30 fps (forza is unconfirmed but original horizon was 30). And confirmed 30. Fora is debuting a dynamic weather system.and it's taking place in south Europe... What's not to like? Lol
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Rainstorm81  +   619d ago
Time out they ditched 360 owners long ago and now that FH2 is coming they support the 360 and should be celebrated? guys are so forgiving when it comes to MS, and so vengeful when its Sony
Kayant  +   619d ago
Yh seeing as they moved Ryse, Crimson dragon from there and the only recent cross gen exclusives to release were Lococycle and Zoo Tycoon iirc. I thought they were done releasing big games on Xbox 360. Still cannot complain with the support but weird decision on a title like this.

I wonder what the difference will be between the two. (Framerate, draw distance, higher res, better textures?)
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gamerfan0909  +   619d ago
It's a racing game that's releasing on vastly more powerful hardware. The XB1 version will be leaps and bounds better in every way from the graphics all the way down to the feel of the cars.
GarrusVakarian   619d ago | Trolling | show
Yodagamer  +   619d ago
They probably started on 360 and decided to bring it over to the xbox one with improvement. They probably didn't waste all the work on the 360 version.
Subaruwrx  +   619d ago
Perhaps it's cross-gen because MS is disappointed with the Xbox One's sales performance and wants to tap in to the 80 million plus 360 user base. That said, I agree that it shouldn't effect the quality of the Xbox One version.
Dannyh  +   619d ago
I think they are doing this so Microsoft won't get as much heat for just dropping the 360 the same way it did for original Xbox.
JBSleek  +   619d ago
I don't understand this cross gen hate now. MS doesn't support last generation and they get shit for it. When they do announce a game for both generations people question it. What!?

Also why should they forgo tens of millions of users who can also play this game. They likely had Xbox One be the lead console and will scale the 360 version of the game.

I also think it's an injustice to not look at gameplay first before people go all cross gen sucks.
GarrusVakarian   619d ago | Trolling | show
torchic  +   619d ago
not all people are as rich as you and can buy next gen machines day one. so when studios announce games for PS3/360 it benefits the majority of console gamers. most gamers are still on PS3/360

I personally am waiting for a solid release date on Final Fantasy XV before I can commit to next-gen. in my country PS4 costs about $800 so cross-gen titles are much appreciated.
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XiSasukeUchiha  +   619d ago
Forza Horizon 2 is going to be awesome
No_Limit  +   619d ago
UPDate: Ryan McCaffrey of IGN Twitter" "I've woken up to worries over Forza Horizon 2 also being on 360. FWIW another studio is doing 360; Playground is bldg XB1 ver off FM5 engine"

Nothing to worry folks, Horizon 2 will be amazing on XB1!
jessupj  +   619d ago
MS really must have a ton of games to announce at E3 if they're announcing this now.

Great news for xbone owners.
JBSleek  +   619d ago
It wasn't aimed at you at all. Actually there was a tweet that just stated that the 360 version will be done by another studio so no worries.
TheSaint  +   619d ago
'Cross gen? Why?'

Because money.
AyeUMadBro  +   619d ago
If Sony can release GT6 on PS3 only and get praise why can't MS get the same love for Forza.
I tell you what I wasn't expecting any exclusives for the 360 anymore to be honest, maybe we can say #InPhilWeTrust.
Still with my disappointment of Forza 5, I'm hoping this and Driveclub and can save my racing craving.
FunkMacNasty  +   619d ago
This looks awesome! I LOVED the first Forza Horizon game. It really bridged the gap between the Project Gotham Racing games and Test Drive Unlimited. Bummer that it's not solely designed for current gen hardware...

Oh well... Here's to hoping someone in my family/friends group buys the Xbox One that I put on my wedding registry (against my fiancée's will)
CryofSilence  +   619d ago
People are being way too defensive and venomous in this thread. Chill out. I'm sure this will be a good game, whether it is on your of choice or not. It's immature to be smug as well as condescending. Let's bring the maturity up from middle school level, shall we?
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Ryan741  +   619d ago
Its made by different studios.
Dirkster_Dude  +   619d ago
Unless people plan to buy an XB1 specifically to play this game then it still makes sense to sell NEW games for the 360. I doubt Microsoft believes this is system seller all by itself.
Clown_Syndr0me  +   619d ago
IM so hyped for this! Shame its cross platform though, this is a game that would of persuaded a couple of my friends to grab an X1 and maybe now they wont so Ill be lonely lol.

Ignore all the idiots, you make more sense than most people on this website.
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FanboyKilla  +   619d ago
Lol ms and turm 10 can handle it. Shhhhhhh. Check another one for the xone. Lol its getting good now. Xone now 399, you can hate or buy one. Up to you.
Illusive_Man  +   619d ago
Weren't you bitching earlier about MS seemingly abandoning the X360. Now this is a bad thing? Turn10 is working on FH2, another dev will focus on the port which will probably come some time after the release on X1.
Sevir  +   619d ago
I don't think it's actually that bad, this isn't the same type of Cross gen experience.

Playground games is using For a 5's Graphics engine and pipelines and turn10's technology for XBO... Sump Digital is Developing FH2 on XB360 and is using the original FH engine as their baseline. So you're essentially getting 2 games running on different pipelines. Cross gen but not mutually related by common engine.
MeLoveRamen  +   619d ago
yea cross gen does seem very odd to me, especially with it being a first party game. All next gen systems need their first party games to be next gen only so it will give gamers a reason to pick up the new consoles. Nintendo is doing it also with smash bros being on the wii u and 3ds, which gives people less of a reason to buy a wii u.
showtimefolks  +   618d ago
can't wait this along with sunset overdrive will force me to buy an xbox one. Great job MS, having one team focus on xbox one and another for xbox360. I believe that's the way a cross gen title should be held
PrettyFunny  +   618d ago | Well said
@lukas @septic.... you guys and the rest should prepare yourselves with more questions then. Because the new Little Big Planet is coming out on both the PS3 and PS4. So now question Sony as well. Unless they get a free pass. Remember this post.
PrettyFunny  +   610d ago
Well, well, well. .. look who called that one exactly.
AnEwGuY  +   618d ago
1.) MS already announced the X1 version uses next-gen tech.
2.) MS can't win, no matter what they do, in the eyes of some. If they DIDN'T announce this for 360 as well, you'd be seeing tons of "MS has already abandoned the 360" comments.
TheDrunkenJester  +   618d ago
Well its 2 different studios. I believe Sumo Digital is doing the 360 version with the Forza Horizon 1 engine, and Playground Games is doing the Xbox One version using a modified version of Forza 5 and working with Turn 10 to master everything like the Driveatars and such.
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timotim  +   618d ago
I dont see it as an issue until it becomes one. Yes, they could go the CoD/Watch Dog route and leave next gen for higher rez textures...maybe some unique graphical effects here and there. That would be disappointing. Or they could go the 2K route and have their next gen version wow the socks off of us. NBA2K14, despite being on every modern platform clearly looks next gen in every way because their next gen version was made apart from the last gen version. I see no reason why PlayGround has to be the dev of both versions...maybe someone else is doing the last-gen port. This is all neither here nor there until we actually see it for ourselves. The original FH was very good graphically for an open world game, I expect FH2 to raise the bar.
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Septic  +   619d ago
Oh what? Why cross-gen? LAME as hell
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sak500  +   619d ago | Well said
So rest of the millions who have not jumped to new gen should be ditched like the first xbox owners? Jeez give it break let those others on last gen still have some new games. MS had mentioned that they'll continue to support 360 till 2015. I still have 2 360s and am enjoying the free titles on games for gold and also have plenty which i haven't finished.

On XB1 i only have Forza 5 and TF which i'm happy with. I'll prob get Ryse once it's down to acceptable price for a short game.
Septic  +   619d ago
"So rest of the millions who have not jumped to new gen should be ditched like the first xbox owners?"

Let me turn that on its head. Should those of us who spent their money on next-gen tech be relegated to diluted experiences?

Poor PC crowd. They have been feeling this for years.
sak500  +   619d ago | Well said

You'd think MS is that stupid to give you same experience on xb1 as 360? It's their own exclusive franchise you think they are like activision and give us something CrapOFDuty:Ghost experience on next gen which was few pixels better than last gen?

There are still ps2 owners out there for crying out loud and you guys want MS to stop supporting 360 crowd.

"Should those of us who spent their money on next-gen tech be relegated to diluted experiences?"

So about 5million odd people have bought new shiny xb1 consoles so MS should punish the 80+million users by not supporting them? let's say your parents didn't buy you the new gen consoles and some bitter guy who bought it cried to MS to stop supporting 360 what will you feel?
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Wikkid666  +   619d ago | Well said
MS is always damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they didn't bring games to XB360 then they abandoned it... and if they do then why is it on both.

Development cycles are very long, so the game was probably in development for the X360 for awhile. T
KNWS  +   619d ago | Well said
Most x box fans are still on 360. You have more gamers on 360 than on x box 1.

Its not cheap it costs lot of money to market games and develop them. 360 too, isn't stupid from a business sense.

next gen is only 8 months old give it time. Some developers will only release next gen games and other developers will go cross platform for a year or two more.

X BOX 360 is owned by Microsoft. You don't forget the 360, if its selling still, and people want new games for it. I say by 2015 Microsoft will be pushing most of their first party titles to next gen only, to get people to buy an xb1
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Rhythmattic  +   619d ago

Bubble for well said.
jcnba28  +   619d ago | Well said
How is it lame? People complained that Microsoft didn't support the 360 anymore. Now their supporting it and people are still complaining.
sak500  +   619d ago | Well said
Only on n4g.
falviousuk  +   619d ago | Well said
The numpties on here will attack Ms and the Xbox brand regardless of what they do. If they announced 100 exclusive games at E3 they would still be attacked for it.
aragon  +   619d ago
most of the people complaining about it being cross gen check their comment history, 90 percent of them are fanboys/ ms bashers not real gamers
OpieWinston  +   619d ago
I'm just glad they're doing what Respawn did with Titanfall...Making another studio deal with the 360 version. Means no diluting!
maniacmayhem  +   619d ago
I just read another studio is doing the 360 version.
GamerXD  +   619d ago
Project Cars, DriveClub and this! I'll be racing a lot this fall!
mt  +   619d ago
it will be heaven for SIM racing fans if Gran Turismo in E3. so much games to play.
HugoDrax  +   619d ago
Definitely! I love racing games, and I think I'm going to start saving for a steering wheel accessory now.

Or invest in 2 Killer Instinct fight sticks, old school arcade style :-)
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Son_of_Megaman  +   619d ago
Yea its cool for SIM fans, but I wish I could get at least ONE non sim racing game. but thats just me
gamerfan0909  +   619d ago
Microsoft must have the mother load to show at E3. That's 4 huge IP's shown off in the last 3 weeks.
tuglu_pati  +   619d ago
Yeah i was thinking the same thing. Phil tweeted a while ago that the show would be hardcore oriented so i guess we'll be seen a lot of new announcements. Just a week to go.
KNWS  +   619d ago | Well said
Cross gen is going to be a feature for a while yet unfortunately. Be least another 2 to 3 years before game developers switch to next gen only.

Lets wait and see what the game looks like before judging it.

Microsoft, most have a lot of games for E3 with all the early reveal, coming before the conference.
GarrusVakarian   619d ago | Trolling | show
GodGinrai  +   619d ago
yeaaahhh baby!
Dudebro90  +   619d ago
I'm guessing 360 version will run in 30 fps and xbone will be 60.

Kinda disappointed it won't take full advantage of the Xbox one, but still my most anticipated title.
GodGinrai  +   619d ago
Who says it wont? MS internals teams know XB hardware better than anybody.
BattleTorn  +   619d ago
Cause if Watch_Dogs has showed us anything g, these companies prioritize parity cross-gen
GodGinrai  +   619d ago

I am inclined to agree with you in regards to third party stuff. but first party devs often squeeze the best out of the machine. And they have the resources and time to do so. You do make a good point though. Hopefully X360 development has not impacted X1 development too much.
WeAreLegion  +   619d ago
Southern Europe is a good choice. There are some wonderful roads there.
gamerfan0909  +   619d ago
It's also great that Playground is getting to make a sequel. Forza Horizon was simply amazing and that studio is so underrated. Easily jumps up to being one of my most anticipated racers of the year. Hopefully they can get it to 60FPS, though. I'm not a fan of racers running at 30FPS at all. Idc if they have to put it down to 900P.
snookiegamer  +   619d ago
Good news for X1/360 owners. I always preferred the Horizon spin off over Forza. But, this is why our "allegedly" current gen games look like HD upgrades, because they won't kiss goodbye to the old gen.

It has to happen sooner or later, but I feel both X1 & PS4 games will not see their full potential for at least 2 more years. By that time, current gen is halfway through it's life cycle.

We kinda expect this from Third Parties, but 1st party studios need to move on. MLB PS3/PS4 is another example.
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sak500  +   619d ago | Well said
Have you seen PS3 and 360 games in just last 1 year? Games like GTA V, Bioshock infinity, ASSCreed etc have pushed these consoles to the limit. You coud'nt have these games in early life of these consoles. That's about 8 years in their lifecycle

So saying that XB1 / PS4 will reach potential in 2 years is wrong they would keep giving better and better games and experience throughout their lifecycles.

And the difference b/w current and last gen will start showing even earlier.
WeAreLegion  +   619d ago
I know it's pronounced "Fortsuh", but I still can't get over how ridiculous that sounds coming out of someone's mouth. Everyone I've ever met pronounces it like it's spelled.
GarrusVakarian  +   619d ago
Yeah, i always pronounced it "For-za", not "Fortz-a".

CernaML  +   619d ago
How do you pronounce Pizza?
callahan09  +   619d ago
Do you mean peetsuh? Never seen this word Pizza before, but a quick google image search shows me plenty of pictures of peetsuh!
WeAreLegion  +   619d ago
Just like everyone else. It has two z's.
Gamesgbkiller  +   619d ago
Is E3 done or what ?
gamerfan0909  +   619d ago
I don't think it will be stagnated at all. I think Playground and Turn 10 will put most of their focus on the XB1 version. They will likely give the port duties to a studio known for porting HD games and the experience will just be different. Playground is not a giant dev, so I don't see them being able to do this game for 2 platforms at once.
mezati99  +   619d ago
WTF?! cross gen ?! that's weird and stupid
Gamer666  +   619d ago
Yet people also so that MS is "abandoning" 360 support...

Damned if they do, damned if they don't...
talocaca  +   619d ago this really necessary?...I mean, I've heard Forza is great....but a new one just came out?!?

Microsoft needs to stop milking Forza, Halo, Gears!!!
desertpunk86  +   619d ago
sony needs to stop milking uncharted,killzone,gran turismo!!!
Bennibop  +   619d ago
none of those games are annualized.
realgame  +   619d ago
Why bring Sony in to a ms article?
timotim  +   618d ago

Neither are any of the titles Talocaca listed. Forza Horizon and Forza Motorsport are two different series. Yes, they both both share Forza somewhere in the name but thats about it. Horizon is an open world racer that gears more toward the arcade style, while Motorsport gears more toward the sim style. The premise in both games are totally different as well.
Wikkid666  +   619d ago | Well said
Forza Motorsports and Forza Horizon are very different games.
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marlinfan10  +   619d ago
why wouldnt they keep remaking them? the games are huge lol and people still love them.

and horizon is completely different then regular forza.
GarrusVakarian  +   619d ago
It's a spin-off series. There is no milking, because they are in different genres. It's not like we get a new Fora game every year.....

Assassins Creed.

THOSE are milked franchises.
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SuicideKing  +   619d ago
Awesome! Looking forward to this game!
TheFallenAngel  +   619d ago
Forza is a great series. I just hate to see them annualized. But I hope it's as good as previous games.
miXter  +   619d ago
Do you prefer see them from 5 to 5 years like GT series?????
TheFallenAngel  +   619d ago
I would like for them to put more time in them and put more cars and tracks.
TXIDarkAvenger  +   619d ago
Forza and Horizon are two different games. It's not annualized. Not to mention all additions in the past to the series have been exceptional games. The quality certainly isn't decreasing and fans are asking for it so I don't see the problem.
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miXter  +   619d ago
Yeah. The quality only improves from title to title. Forza 2 to Forza 4, three games from Forza series vs one (and a half) game from GT series.

Forza 5 is almost gettin' old and no GT announced for PS4 yet.

I think Forza 6 will be out before GT7...

And for sony fanboys that's great!! Isn't it? They like to wait 4 or 5 years for a game that doesn't match the quality of its competitor.

They do not see. They are blind.
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greenyboi  +   619d ago
Didn't play the first one but heard good things about it will pick this one up for my xb1
jcnba28  +   619d ago
Microsoft has been releasing so much information recently and E3 is only a week away! Can't wait!
Nine_Thousaaandd  +   619d ago
Well well well...Forza Horizon 2 vs Drive Club in the fall...I knew Microsoft would challenge Sony on this one...grab some popcorn, gonna be a hell of a show!

Back when I owned a Xbox, Forza and Project Gotham Racing where the hits, great racing games throughout the years. Interested in seeing some footage soon, incoming E3.

As of now, I say Drive Club's biggest competiton will be Forza Horizon 2 on Xbox One, but I'm bet'in on Drive Club this time around. It's nice to see so many racing games being announced for new generation this early on. Gonna be a great year for racing fans on both sides!
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GodGinrai  +   619d ago
"As of now, I say Drive Club's biggest competiton will be Forza Horizon 2 on Xbox One, but I'm bet'in on Drive Club this time around."

Drive club is super pretty, but my money is still on forza horizon besting it ;)

"It's nice to see so many racing games being announced for new generation this early on. Gonna be a great year for racing fans on both sides"

I couldnt agree more...and then there is project cars...Three promising racing games..two multiformat. There is no way, anybody can say they dont have a good driving game to pick up this fall, regardless of what platform. Even the wiiU fans have mario kart 8 AND project cars to look forward to in the same year.
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SPARTAN3  +   619d ago
Yes but I feel that DC and Horizons are pretty different games. Yes it would be easy and fun to put them head to head bec of fsnboys. But really it should be DC project cars, and horizons the crew.
aragon  +   619d ago
Cool. Good news for xbox community
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   619d ago
What the f*ck ! It should be Xbox One only ! I was hyped for it but nvm.
DanzoSAMA  +   619d ago
Wow !!
Thanks Microsoft.
LAWSON72  +   619d ago
Did Forza Horizon get loads of overpriced DLC like Forza 4 and 5 if not might get this
timotim  +   618d ago
What does optional DLC have to do with you buying a game or not?
Tedakin  +   619d ago
It's nice MS isn't forgetting about 360 owners... but they're also killing incentive to buy a new console.
LAWSON72  +   619d ago
Not many people are buying an Xbone to play Forza Horizon.
Tedakin  +   619d ago
this is true....
SlapHappyJesus  +   619d ago
Thanks dad!
Dlacy13g  +   619d ago
I suspect you will see a pretty compelling divide between the last gen version and the next gen one with a possible upgrade program for the game as well.
pornflakes   619d ago | Trolling | show
Bundi  +   619d ago
Open world. Weather system. Hundreds of cars. This is how you do racing.
Racing game of the year.
SlapHappyJesus  +   619d ago
Considering the first Horizon title was phenomenal and holds as my favorite racing game, I have very high hopes for this one.
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