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The Order 1886: Graphics Over Gameplay?

Hardcore Gamer: If there is one aspect of The Order that is undeniably impressive it is definitely the visuals. Footage of the game in action has been scarce since it was first announced last year, but what we have seen looks incredibly sharp. The environments, animations, and especially the character models look simply amazing, and the game will likely be among the most visually impressive games on any system if this is indeed how the final product looks. However, while the focus of pre-release information has been squarely on the game's impressive visuals, the gameplay hasn't been a major talking point.

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ValKilmer789d ago

I think this will certainly be the case. Ironically this generation Sony seems to be more focused on graphics and Microsoft seems to be more interested on delivering a solid gameplay experience.

Kayant789d ago

Wow such an amazing crystal eye you have /s

NewMonday789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

good "gameplay" is supposed to make a player apply skill, something we don't see in most XB1 games yet

games like Ryse, Titanfall, Dead Rising3 and Sunset Overdrive are full of cannon fodder, it makes a poor gamer feel great, maybe that is why some like them.

user1439414789d ago

Why can a game not have GOOD graphics AND good GAMEPLAY? I believe this game will be very good.

morganfell789d ago

Since we have not been entreated to gameplay other than some of the combat mechnaics, this article is an idiot's thesis. We have been told by Ready at Dawn that the game is investigation heavy. Yet some with internet access must do what they can from their parent's basement to propogate absurd suppositions.

alexkoepp789d ago

It's a third person shooter with QTE, its going to play exactly how it sounds. Don't think this game is trying to break down any walls here with gameplay, you can tell how it's going to play by seeing the footage.

AGaryColemanClone789d ago

"Yet some with internet access must do what they can from their parent's basement to propogate absurd suppositions."

The Xbox fans in the media and sitting at home are in an absolute panic in the same way they were when Sony blew everyone away with Killzone 2 on the PS3 being able to render what Xbox fans claimed were 'impossible CGI level graphics' and absolutely nailed the original E3 reveal trailer.

There are going to be an endless stream of garbage thrown at this game until it is released.

georgeenoob789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

Unfortunately that's the case with PS4. It already happened with KZ and Infamous, and now the Order. All have phenomenal graphics but very bland gameplay.

X1 on the other hand has both with games like Quantum Break in addition to the amazing gameplay rich exclusives such as Titanfall, DR3, Sunset Overdrive, and Killer Instinct.

Also @Newmonday

"good "gameplay" is supposed to make a player apply skill, something we don't see in most XB1 games yet
games like Ryse, Titanfall, Dead Rising3 and Sunset Overdrive... "

Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies.

Fail.

psyxon789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

As an avid PlayStation supporter, I'm happy the Order is getting criticized so harshly and prejudged every which way. Why? Because when it does release, it will be THAT much more impressing. It will blow everyone away and silence all the critics and doubters. I can't wait for it.

BitbyDeath789d ago

@Alexkoep, guess you won't be buying Quantum Break then eh?

truefan1789d ago

The fact that [email protected] chose 30fps over 60fps speaks volumes.

SoulSercher620789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

@georgeenoob

LOL again you make BS claims.

"Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies."

Ryse battle system is like Batman Arkham but WAY worse. The AI in that game is near braindead.

Titanfall's matchmaking system is no different from CoD.

You barely know anything about Sunset Overdrive yet from one video you happen to know EVERYTHING about the game. The same applies to Quantum Break.

In DR3 there are no different ways to challenge a thousand zombies on screen. They give you a route to escape from them. You must be joking if you think you can take on 1000 zombies on the screen.

Fail.

Bennibop789d ago

Always the same 2 people trolling ps4 articles: truefan1 & georgeenoob are you 1 and the same person because it's hard to believe that two complete idiots can post the exact same drivel. And before you start I own pc, ps4 and x1, the order looks like ps answer to gears of war and that's cool us gamers will enjoy playing it I am sure!

Malphite789d ago

@georgeenoob: "Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill."

Just like you don't know anything about the games you bashed. You're praising the gameplay of Dead Rising, Ryse and even Sunset Overdrive (a game that we haven't seen much gameplay of and you haven't played yet) but bash Infamous (great gameplay) and Killzone (solid gameplay) although you probably never played those games either.

It's very obvious that you praise every single game that isn't on the PS4 and hate on every PS4 exclusive.

Kayant789d ago

@georgeenoob

Aren't you forgetting some amazing gameplay exclusives like Lococycle, Crimson Dragon, Fighter Within, Halo: Spartan Assault, Zoo Tycoon.

"Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies" - Same can be said about the PS4 games to some degree with so called bland gameplay.Each console has their share of gameplay heavy games, "bland" gameplay games.

Raven722789d ago

Not surprised at all to see the same two lifeless idiots trolling PS4 articles.

DigitalRaptor789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

I know man. It's a shame we have to put up with speculative idiocy until the truth lets out. People look at a third-person shooter with unique weapons, and then you see these weapons used like you'd expect from a third-person shooter. To kill people.

http://a.pomf.se/ojtbvp.web...

Somehow, this gameplay is disappointing. Even though we've seen literally a fraction of what the gameplay of the game will consist of. Things we haven't seen in great detail:

- Slow paced investigation
- hand to hand combat
- branching QTE
- encounters with half-breeds and other enemies
- MOST of the weapons which the gameplay is attributed to.

See this is how it happens. They'll look at ANYTHING to downplay. It was the graphics being "downgraded" last week (an astonishing claim proven to be a load of crap). Now they can't bag on the graphics, they'll look at the gameplay and nitpick it to hell, despite the fact that there's nothing really much to draw from.

They'd be hating on the presence of cutscenes in the game if they weren't so interactive. But they will find something.

E3. Xbox fanboys will continue to be wrong.

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Eonjay789d ago

From what I have seen, this game looks to use the cover system made popular by Gears of War, and I'm okay with that gameplay style. Also, the games weapons look epic. Throw that on top of a first class visual experience and you have a train that can't be stopped.

Mikelarry789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

what proof have you got to make that statement, the game is not even out yet or even worse you haven't had any hands on time to come to that judgement. I swear this generation is going to be about gamers complaining about games rather than playing GAMES!!!. my personal favourite "infamous does not have multi-player so i am not getting it" WTF

LaChance789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

The new Ryse.

The only difference is that The Order is from an unproven dev on consoles ... hmmm.

Mikelarry789d ago

Troll harder, Damn I miss the open zone section

Bathyj789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

No the only difference is you were likely right there singing Ryses praises yet suddenly you think a beautiful game automatically means dull gameplay.

That and the fact graphics AND gameplay on The Order both look better than Ryse.

Why o why789d ago

At least one of the xcamps most senior t generals can admit ryse was a load of style over substance.

Lets wait and see what this game is like when people have actually have it in their mits. Until then....dodge the click bait

maniacmayhem789d ago

We haven't really seen much of gameplay from The Order to even think that graphics will take persistent over the gameplay.

Also, from what little was shown the gameplay looks to be standard over the shoulder, shooter type like RE:6, that's not a bad thing since it's a proven formula and works really well.

Lets just hope The Order excels in story that keeps the shooter experience interesting.

My only small gripe is the no multiplayer. A game like this and in this setting would have been bad a$$.

Why o why789d ago

Yep, yep, yep and I'm kool without the pressures of multiplayer, lol

Mikelarry789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

Ill rather they concentrate and deliver a solid single player experience and if after they have the resource's and time then they try and figure out if multiplayer would be feasible, maybe in the next one when the pressure of it not being thier first console debut and they have learnt what works from this

Flutterby789d ago

No Mp is a good thing in my opinion the story I can bet will be top notch and also we won't need to get stupid online only trophies to get platinum.

Dark11789d ago

Sony love their cinematic/movie games , so that is why it's "graphics over gameplay"

SoulSercher620789d ago

Funny these cinematic/movie games you speak of outclassed ANYTHING on 360 and will do the same on Xbone.

Dark11789d ago

@SoulSercher620

outclassed ANYTHING? not really
i enjoyed Red Dead more than any cinematic/movie game.

people have different opinions , yes it's shocking i know.

Shane Kim789d ago

Opinions yes...but the hundreds of awards from TLOU and Uncharted are facts. Live with it.

cemelc789d ago

@Dark11

And yet the game you just mention is not an xbox exclusive by any means...

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Master-H789d ago

" Sony seems to be more focused on graphics and Microsoft seems to be more interested on delivering a solid gameplay experience"...except Ryse is a Microsoft exclusive...

Sharky231789d ago

How can anyone tell how the gameplay is gonna be. We've seen two five minute segments from the game. They haven't showed much of the qte parts. That in itself is a cool aspect that could add a lot to the gameplay. I'm tired of hearing this crap! Let's wait til there's a demo for people to play before we draw a conclusion.

styferion789d ago

what do you say about Ryse then? It's hilarious to see XB fanboy bash The Order for graphics over gameplay when we just only see mere few minutes of gameplay and they quietly ignore Ryse, the most recent proof of graphics over gameplay.

damn, why do all fanboys comments so stupid like this, it's like watching politicians debate.

sovkhan789d ago

Solid gameplay experience???

Haw Haw Haw

Metacritic, hence a bunch of people, doesn't agree with you :)

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NewMonday789d ago

[email protected] made better gameplay in the GOW PSP games than the main consoles games so I trust them in that department , and the smart application of the thermite gun assured me.

majiebeast789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

I dont agree with that. I think God of War 2 is still the best game and had the best gameplay in the franchise. Ghost of Sparta isn't far behind, and had the best story and gave an insight to Kratos as a person, unlike 2 where he is just a raging beast.

I trust RAD because Ghost of Sparta was an amazing game. The director/writer/lead gameplay designer(Dana Jan) of that game is now the director of Order 1886. The director/writer(Ru weerasuriya) of Chains and creative director/writer of Ghost of Sparta is now the creative director of the Order 1886. Plus he has worked on Warcraft III as artist and script writer.

You should really watch God of War game directors live.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

NewMonday789d ago

@majiebeast

after 2, since the PSP games started after that, basically better than 3 (minus the crazy set pices) and Ascension.

also was impressed with the narrative they made despite scraping the bottom of the barrel on the PSP games.

fpshooter2789d ago

For me the most interesting part of this game is the storyline. Its what has my attention the most. Not denying the beauty of this game but it has a lot more going for it than just looks.

Shane Kim789d ago

For me, it's always the story that must be prioritized. Without a good story, I'll lose interest even if the gameplay/graphics are top notch. I want to be motivated of why I sohould be continuing the game. Not just mindlessly sloughter everything in my way.

The Order seems to have a very interesting story, with a lot of mood, and mysticism. A bit like some kind of Dracula movie.

Applejack789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

I never understood why you have to choose between the two. Why can't a game look AND play good, is that against the rules?

NYC_Gamer789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

The Order 1886 could be a solid cover shooter for PS4 like Gears of Wars was on 360