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Is Microsoft Trying To Bamboozle Us?

Microsoft issues a new SKU, but is it really beneficial?

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Sitdown1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Until the price is known, this is trying to make something out of nothing. Are you missing the part where a game is included with the original kinect? Perhaps there are cost saving measures this time. Or perhaps this is just typical marketing that gets you to save money by bundling instead of purchasing sperate. Microsoft is not giving the illusion of a price drop, we all know they are taking an item out which by default decreases the value.

user14394141642d ago

Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law.
I do not think Microsoft are trying to bamboozle anyone, I just think they are doing everything in their power to catch up to the PS4. I wish them luck and I hope that this is not the END for XBOX.

cleft51641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

The only thing wrong with the Xbox One, after all the of the revisions, was the price tag. A Xbox One at $399 with Kinect was a good value proposition. Without Kinect, then the question is why wouldn't you just buy the more powerful console for the same price? On top of that, Microsoft has constantly said that the Xbox One was designed around the Kinect. Now all of a sudden, we get the Kinectless Xbox One at $399.

The problem with this is that the original concept for the Xbox One was not designed without Kinect in mind. This means that resources and power was allocated to the Kinect. That is one of the reasons that the console is less powerful than the PS4. Now they are taking away a major feature that the Xbox One was designed around, a feature that gamers immediately told them they didn't want, and the end result is a weaker console with no real advantages.

If Microsoft wanted to actually give people what they want, than they would have dropped the price of the console to $399 with Kinect. $399 with Kinect is an amazing deal, without Kinect I am just left wondering why I would pay $399 for a weaker console? Sadly, Microsoft is in a bad situation because this is a decision that should have been made before the console ever released to market and certainly after the price of the PS4 was made public.

headblackman1641d ago

aleister crowley. really??? :-/ (he's the founder of the church of satan for those of you who don't know)

Eonjay1641d ago

@cleft5

Last generation it was revealed that Kinect cost $50 to produce and sold for $149

The price point is intended to cover the cost of manufacturing it, the cost of R&D, advertising and profit of course.

399 for Xbox One and Kinect would be a good price for consumers, but a disaster for Microsoft. At $399 a stand alone Xbox One is a questionable move for Microsoft given the current cost to produce the unit, but it is acceptable if they can attach a bunch of software (enter Halo).

The messaging of the original idea behind Xbox One is past the point of repair, but if they can bundle Kinect with a game at $149, there is a good chance that they can recover the R$D.

user14394141641d ago

@headblackman don't EVER get Crowley mixed up with Anton Lavey. Aleister Crowley had nothing to do satanism. He was a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis and founder of the Thelema religion and the law of Thelema is "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

Microsoft are really stopping to new lows here sending trolls in here to try and make me out to be some satan worshipper.

LonDonE1641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

@MrTehDiNGO #1.1
Bubble you down for using a satanic quote, "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law."
and if you didn't know where this saying originated then may god forgive u.
If u did, then god help u!

@headblackman
Yes you are right my friend, it is a sad world we live in today! Satanists everywhere, gays everywhere, paedophiles everywhere, war and death everywhere!

all i can say is keep strong in your deen, Mine is Islam, yours may be Christianity, whatever it is may u find peace on the day of judgement! ameen

And happy gaming!!! sorry everyone for bringing religion into the discussion.

BigStoat1641d ago

@LonDonE
"Yes you are right my friend, it is a sad world we live in today! Satanists everywhere, gays everywhere, paedophiles everywhere, war and death everywhere!"

Really dude? Gays are as bad as paedophiles and death? Man, get your priorities right.

MysticStrummer1641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

"Do what thou wilt" isn't satanic.

If you're going to let a religion rule your life at least know what you're talking about.

LonDonE1641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

@BigStoat and @MrTehDiNGO
My priorities are right, its your priorities which are all wrong! just like the majority of the world today.

And aliester crowley was a devil worshipper who practised black magick, he sacrificed and ate children, go watch his documentary or better yet read his biography!! also "do what thou wilt, was revealed to him by a demon spirit named Aiwass,who possessed crowleys wife while in Egypt in the great pyramid! this same demon helped crowley write the book of the law!

The very essence of do what thou wilt is against everything which has to do with god, and god fearing people, who are supposed to live by gods law and no just do whatever they want and desire.

Go watch this documentary! and stop believing wikipedia so easily! it is biased when it comes to illuminati/masons/satanists.
Alistair worshipped demon spirits! this is well known.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I hope they will open your eyes if not then you have no hope.

Engaging in magick is devil worship, these spirits they invoke are demons.

@MrTehDiNGO
"Microsoft are really stopping to new lows here sending trolls in here to try and make me out to be some satan worshipper".

Dude i am no Microsoft dude, look at my profile pic/avatar, I OWN AND GAME ON ALL PLATFORMS! MY PIC PROVES THIS! unlike the majority of liars here on N4G who claim they own every platform!

I am not saying you are satanic, i am saying "Do what thou wilt" is a satanic statement! please watch the documentaries above!
"We are Legion we are many" is also another well documented satanic saying which Satan said and which allot of people use without realising where its from.

sAVAge_bEaST1641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

" Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law."- http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Why bring Satanism into this?
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MRMagoo1231641d ago

@londone

"I am not saying you are satanic, i am saying "Do what thou wilt" is a satanic statement! please watch the documentaries above!
"We are Legion we are many" is also another well documented satanic saying which Satan said and which allot of people use without realising where its from" You do know god and satan are as real as the tooth fairy and the flying spaghetti monster right ? there for satan didnt say anything at all because he did and does not exist, you are a wacko.

tommygunzII1641d ago (Edited 1641d ago )

I don't think that "Do what thou wilt" is satanic in its self but it does sum up the current society we live in which is likely just as bad.

If I did what I wanted I would eradicate fat and lazy people, so pray this law never takes hold :)

jivah1641d ago

Why get all up and arms over a quote that may or may not be associated with satanism. A harmless quote at that. Regardless satanism actually doesn't worship satan or even have a god for that reason. If you ever did some research you would see that they are athiest or ithiest and dont believe in god or satan or lucifer heaven or hell .. none of it. Oh well(ignorance is bliss they say)

http://www.churchofsatan.co...

Im hoping microsoft reaaaallly come out of the slumber they are in right now. Even tho im more of a PC/PS4 guy im not close minded in the way that i know microsoft had a very important part into making gaming what it is now. Competition is needed. Unless they wanna get out of the industry and well ..........Dreamcast 2! I can only dream. Sigh

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URNightmare1641d ago

But they said before that Kinect as a stand alone would cost $150. This was back in November when trying to justify the $500 price tag.

greenlantern28141641d ago

Or more so really it should be 350$ without Kinect

Pogmathoin1641d ago

People here will find negative in world peace and prosperity for mankind....

liamn1642d ago

I think this is a stupid move by Microsoft to remove kinect from consoles.

solo45r1642d ago

I kind of agree with your comment. I think they should have price dropped the current SKU, and still added another SKU for people who don't like Kinect.

ziggurcat1641d ago

i'm pretty sure that's the situation anyway... two SKUs available for sale - one with kinect, one without.

and a price drop on the original SKU is inevitable.

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7771641d ago

I'm not a xbox one owner, but you are correct! the kinect is what made it
different and unique from the PS4, and now they remove it, it's not unique anymore. MS is so desperate to get more sold that they want it removed to reduce the price of the system to match it with their competitor. I to think that it's a dumb move they did!

jacobvogel1642d ago

I do believe Microsoft marketing did it wrong as you stated in the article. Best price drop for Kinect-less console is $349.99.

solo45r1642d ago

That is exactly what I thought the price should be. It helps undercut the PS4 value if they did it like that.

WeAreLegion1642d ago

Is it beneficial? Yes, it's beneficial.

WeAreLegion1641d ago

Pre-orders for the new XBO without Kinect are very high. The system will sell much better without Kinect. It is beneficial.

mhunterjr1642d ago

This is a pretty stupid article. Bundles are almost always a better value than buying items separately. That's kind of the point... It's not tricky marketing at all...

People that don't want kinect are saving fifty dollars by not purchasing something they don't want. People that do want kinect can save money upfront by getting the bundle. Everybody wins.