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Submitted by Abriael 284d ago | rumor

The Order 1886: High Quality Version of Yesterday's Controversial Video Coming Tuesday - Rumor

Yesterday's footage of The Order: 1886 caused quite a stir. On one side itpleased those that could look beyond the fact that it was broadcasted in an extremely compressed and laggy livestream, while others were turned off by the low video quality.

Luckily it seems that Tuesday a high quality version of the video will be released to clear all doubts. (PS4, The Order: 1886)

Hard to tell
Is this rumor true? Rumor votes 31
XiSasukeUchiha  +   284d ago | Well said
Sweet!
SuperBlunt  +   284d ago
you got an agree on one of your comments. holy crap
KendrickLamar  +   284d ago
Damn....he's only got one bubble.

Anyways, back on topic:
I'm glad they're releasing an updated HQ video. The folks at neogaf went crazy! It was also very obvious that the video was not streamed properly. People just like to start controversy.
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wardestroyr  +   284d ago
Link to 1080p version.

Looks delicious.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
tuglu_pati  +   284d ago
@wardestroyr

wow that looks beyond good. Thanks for the find.
Prime157  +   284d ago
Maybe when people learn about the "compression controversy" then better ways to view this material (especially while streaming) will come along faster.
LightDiego  +   284d ago
I'm a huge fan of Sasuke, he is a great guy.
The Order looks amazing.
ifistbrowni  +   284d ago
@wardestroyr, thanks for the video. That is the best looking game i have ever seen.

I do think that a game like this could have a little bit more brutality. I feel like limb dismemberments (like the Gears of War series) would be welcome. I'm not a brutal person, i just feel like it would fit this game since it's suppose to feature some monsters. Also, the guns they're using look bad-ass. But, whats the sense of having a laser gun if its no more brutal than a 9mm?
talocaca  +   284d ago
Shouldn't this hace been the case from the begining?

What the hell were they thinking?!?

"Let's distribute betamax tapes to show our amazing graphics".
thereapersson  +   284d ago
Well, it is a Sony IP so the Betamax analogy is valid... Lol
Kayant  +   284d ago
Yh it was dumb and a poor choice to use twitch to stream a three min video then loop it. Should have just put it on youtube.

Although this isn't a rumor at this point because it's confirmed . One like Shinobi said RAD don't know Sony where going to tease it as Andrea Pessino said here --> https://twitter.com/AndreaP...

Two CVG said this - "CVG recently played through the part of the game featured in the video and will deliver full hands-on impressions at 6am PT / 2 PM UK on May 27, along with an interview with game director Dana Jan."

http://www.computerandvideo...
Abriael  +   284d ago
I agree. It was an extremely bad marketing move on Sony's part, and I really don't know who thought it was a good idea to show the video with that horribad quality.

But I guess marketing is always easy to screw up. Too many times someone comes up with a "cool idea" that backfires horribly.
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Baccra17  +   284d ago
You show an ok vid to set expectations low, than show the real version to blow people's minds.

It's the reverse of Ubi's strategy- show a really great looking game and than show people it was fake and give them a crappier looking version.
GameDev1  +   284d ago
@Abriael

I wouldn't go as far as a bad marketing move, even with the low quality, many still saw the high graphics visual fidelity.

bad decision yes, as far as marketing, didn't affect many people's decision of how great it looked, only the people who purposely wanted to bring the game down.

Direct feed would have certainly been far much better though. Glad they might do it
morganfell  +   284d ago
It may have been marketing of the type to which we are not privy. We have no idea at all of the deal Sony has with Twitch and what impact Sony's ability to wrangle in viewers on Twitch means for the company. I am reminded of the recent gameplay by Naughty Dog showcasing TLOU MP additions.

It is really easy for us all to armchair quarterback this move but the truth is we are doing so while missing a large portion of the facts. Quite frankly it is speculative idiocy to attack Sony over their actions in this instance.

Besides, The Order is going to wow at E3 and 99% of potential buyers are not impacted whatsoever by that Twitch feed. The smart ones that watched it realize if the game looks this good through a highly compressed feed imagine how it looks in normal HD.

The ones that fear The Order have done all they can to decry the game because of that feed. They are inconsequential as are most of us.

Our egos lead us to believe as industry aware individuals we are the center of attention and representative of the majority of buyers. We are not. "I am somebody! We are the gaming public!" No I am not and no we are not.

They are releasing an HD vid not because we are that majority but because the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
jmac53  +   284d ago
The only problem with Twitch is that they don't really support the consoles or mobile too well. I wanted to watch this on my 55' but I could not find the stream so I had to go to my computer. They should have just released the video to the web instead of streaming it.
Sitdown  +   284d ago
Or perhaps this was one big plan...bad feed to stir up conversation, then slap everybody down come Tuesday. Could have easily addressed this come E3... For the most part Sony has been doing everything right concerning the ps4, so I would put it past then for this to be a clever strategy.
BX81  +   284d ago
Makes no sense since we already saw gameplay that looked great prior to this video.
waltyftm  +   283d ago
Eyes will melt when a real video is shown.
ThichQuangDuck  +   284d ago
It is a teaser for E3 and a test of how many people they can get excited through twitch. Maybe they thought gamers would be interested in the gameplay and not solely the graphics? The frame rate however was probably unexpected for them. I thought it was good enough appetizer.
user5669510  +   284d ago
Hopefully they give a hq video so we can download. The game looks good so far.
Yomiro  +   284d ago
I was never turned off. The game looked good even at low quality video.
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waltyftm  +   283d ago
Well said, i have watched that low quality vid a few times, always knowing the real game will look even better.
Hellsvacancy  +   284d ago
Controversial? seems too big of a word to use
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Abriael  +   284d ago
Of course mate, 78 pages of fighting on Neogaf and who knows how many elsewhere is not controversial at all. /s
torchic  +   284d ago
"Neogaf"
Hellsvacancy  +   284d ago
Just because a bunch of lamebrains are arguing over pixels on a nerd-forum doesn't mean the rest of the people on the internet (theirs millions more of us) think it's a controversial subject

78 pages of fighting makes them sound even more pathetic
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USMC43  +   284d ago
Which is where you get 90% of your headlines from.....
styferion  +   284d ago
it's controversial because it's weekend and people are looking for topic to spend their free time argumenting at, and this is one of the "hottest" topic available recently...
well, apart from Farcry 4 gay controversy, but that one isn't exactly safe to argue at, wouldn't want the internet thinks you're anti-gay just for the sake of argumenting..
Visiblemarc  +   284d ago
Exactly what I was thinking. Why is everything considered controversial these days? Because bored whiners complain about, literally, everything? It's just insane.
Debaitable  +   284d ago
We can't just be happy we got something all?
Majin-vegeta  +   284d ago
Dear Devs.

Pls consider using Gamersyde from now on.
-Foxtrot  +   284d ago
or just release the full video on their Youtube account like normal people so people can watch it at the best quality
Malphite  +   284d ago
But that's the thing. If you want best quality you can't go with youtube. I agree with Majin-Vegeta gamersyde should be the standard for video reveals.
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Joe913  +   284d ago
Exactly why I am pro YouTube buying twitch.
Th4Freak  +   284d ago
HQ? The game still look as bad as when it was streamed.
fallacious  +   284d ago
I'm surprised you can still type things out with such terrible eyesight.
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Th4Freak  +   284d ago
The video was recorded from the Twitch stream and the quality was horrible, I think you're the one here with a terrible eyesight.

The stream nor this so called HQ video make any justice to this beautiful game.
fallacious  +   284d ago
@Th4Freak

The graphical quality of the stream was actually very good if you streamed it with the source quality like I did. The only problem was the performance, it was laggy as hell. But besides the lagginess it looked very good but performance wise it was very bad which I would attribute to some aspect of the stream going wrong.

And how would you know this HQ video won't do it any justice? Have you some crazy how seen it already?
GTgamer  +   284d ago
I was still impressed even with the low quality mainly because i was looking at the weapon effects (•ิ_•ิ)
Bathyj  +   284d ago
So why was his even a big deal? Did people really think the stream was how the game was going to look? Morons!
ziggurcat  +   284d ago
The usual suspects on here certainly did.
MysticStrummer  +   284d ago
Someone here was PMing me explaining how the devs switched skin color so it would free up more system resources.

True story.
DigitalRaptor  +   284d ago
I think I know who that person was, if it was the same person who was arguing with you on the previous article.

How can people be this delusional, man? Maybe it's just desperation... they can't believe this stuff really, can they?
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Clarence  +   284d ago
Even with the horrible stream, the game still looked amazing.
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modesign  +   284d ago
i want that tesla gun
waltyftm  +   283d ago
Agreed, myself and a lot of Warehouse 13 fans.
Geekman  +   284d ago
Instead of endlessly bitching about the lack of non-graphics based info like I alwzys do with this game, I'll actually express some hype.

WOO!

There.
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TomahawkX  +   284d ago
I'm not really understanding RAD/Sony's logic behind these gameplay reveals. Seems like a knee jerk reaction to all Xbone announcements last week.
Spotie  +   284d ago
How would that work, exactly? Especially when there's been talk of new details/info/whatever on The Order for some time now.
mike32UK  +   284d ago
Sony have ALWAYS done this in the run up to E3. In fact, it's not even uncommon for them to reveal a brand new game before E3.
Predaking77  +   284d ago
The only ones mad at the game was the green people and I can understand why, the game looks very impressive.
PlayTheGameBro  +   284d ago
It really just amazes me how far graphics have came. From the PS1 to PS4, it has been wonderful to see each leap. When i look at The Order, im just absolutely stunned. The game looked wonderful even at low quality. High Quality videos are very welcomed for this game.
KNWS  +   284d ago
Neogaf is going nuts claiming its downgraded. To be honest i think the graphics are nice and its look like a next gen game.

The video yesterday did show stuttering and frame rate drops maybe, it was hard to tell.

The issue could be the CPU of the PS4, it does the frame rate. The order 1886 is pushing the graphics of the PS4 and 1.6ghz clock speed might be having trouble.

It be bad if they can't get it to 30 frames locked?
akurtz  +   284d ago
It was already said that the framerate and screen tear was from the stream and not the actual game.

Nice try though.
DigitalRaptor  +   284d ago
The Xbox/Nintendo trolls who you claim don't exist on NeoGAF because they get banned, right? Those people are spreading FUD about the game. It's that simple. You are anxious to downplay any PS4 exclusive, cause that's just how you roll, but doesn't make the garbage you spew any kind of meaningful.

Why do you purposely dodge the facts to downplay?

The stream itself was responsible for frame rate stuttering. This is not RYSE, where the frame rate dips into the teens on the retail product because of the actual hardware limitations.
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oasdada  +   284d ago
@KNWS

"The issue could be the CPU of the PS4, it does the frame rate"

its been ages since i laughed this hard!

on topic:
i certainly prefer the more foggy London.. and also because the bland grey color looks much more better on nexgen gfx lol
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imt558  +   284d ago
Game IS NOT DOWNGRADED! Give me the link from GAF and i will give you another. Dude, or just shut up!!!! What a brain you have, KNWS! God damn!

Anyway, FOR ALL XBONE FANBOYS, especially KNWS and H.J.SMITH, who think that game is downgraded. Guys, direct feed 1080p screenshots ( from trailer a few days ago ) just for you :

http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i2.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i2.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

or this ( old build vs new build with post processing ) :

http://i2.wp.com/gearnuke.c...
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mydyingparadiselost  +   284d ago
I'm impressed with the graphics, especially on the 1080p link above, but the gameplay that's shown isn't really enticing or different from anything that has been done already. I'm sure there's more to the game than just a small snippet of gameplay can show but at the moment I feel no real hype for the game, at least not yet.
Taislin  +   284d ago
Well, the guns actualy seem like a good inovation. We got to see the tesla gun, which we still don´t know how it works, and the termite one, which not only is a normal gun, but has two secondary fire options, the ignition dust and the flare, which brings forth some very interesting gameplay choices. Can´t wait to see more weapons!
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   284d ago
Look at how unbelievable the game looked on a crappy laggy stream. So imagine how its gonna look with a direct feed version or whatever its called.
stefan771  +   284d ago
Hopefully it will be a completely uncompressed download
younglj01  +   284d ago
Lol if these people that are complaining were born during Atari and NES days would have killed themselves. As long I can play the game and enjoy it, I personally can give an rat ass how it look. I rather have an flawed diamond than gold turds.

If The Order:1886 can provide both gameplay and visuals then just enjoy it and stop complaining. Gameplay is a lot more important than visuals in my opinion but The Order:1886 is borderline CGI in real-time. People this is only year one let me repeat that only "YEAR" one. Wow.....
McScroggz  +   284d ago
Controversial video? Really? I think that's a tad much.
incendy35  +   284d ago
Graphics look great IMO.. It is the gameplay that looks questionable. Hopefully it is more fun to play than it is to watch.
NaughtyDream  +   284d ago
will buy it just for the graphic but i agree with a lot of you that the gameplay is bad very bad not innovative
Speak_da_Truth  +   284d ago
"the gameplay is bad" oh so you've played the whole game huh or your just making and ignorant comment based off of 3-4mins of gameplay
HollywoodLA  +   284d ago
The gameplay looked great.
LostFlock  +   284d ago
Wait whats to controversial about it?
waltyftm  +   283d ago
Really poor video, quality is rubbish, looking forward to the direct feed footage and the awesome Gifs that follow.
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CuddlyREDRUM  +   283d ago
The first thing he should do is realize the game isn't running at 1080p. If the game is letterboxed it is not possible for it to run at 1080p vertically.

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