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The Order: 1886 Dev Responds To Graphical Changes In New Build; Comparison Shows Improvements

GearNuke: "Ready At Dawn's Founder Andrea Pessino quickly squashed all the fanboy rumors of The Order: 1886 being "downgraded" when people started to compare the newly released highly compressed footage to the old build." (Andrea Pessino, PS4, The Order: 1886)

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IRetrouk  +   159d ago | Well said
Thats good news, cant wait to see a direct feed version of that video, I bet a hell of a lot of detail was missed because of it.
DarkLordMalik  +   159d ago
Prepare to be blown away at E3. I am sure The Order: 1886 is going to be one of the best looking game this year.
Cindy-rella  +   159d ago
i can't believe how beautiful the order 1886 is and will definitely get a ps4. i really like the style of the game and the story seems very much interesting along with the gameplay. the funny thing is I'm not much a fan of this sort of game but i can't wait to have it.

there isn't anything available on these new gaming consoles today that looks as good as the order 1886 and i can't believe insiders are saying uncharted 4 looks better. i really can't wait for the ps4 to be in my hands and to have this game later on. i definitely hope there is a the last of us bundle on ps4 because that game is ace
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Sloth-Eater  +   159d ago
I wasn't too taken with it at the first reveal, but I'm actually really looking forward to this. May not have the hype of Watch_Dogs, but that's a good thing. Can't wait for more footage.
FATAL1TY  +   159d ago
True Next gen graphics. Only on PS4
ZodTheRipper  +   159d ago
At this point I'm completely convinced that this will be a crazy good game ...my only hope is that it doesn't get delayed.
MelvinTheGreat  +   158d ago
@FATAL1TY.

lol, "next gen graphics" that pc has been able to produce for about 3-4 years now. And all at 1080p!
Evilsnuggle  +   158d ago | Well said
I'm amazed at the graphics on the The Order 1886. I was amazed at the first trailer this one destroyed the first trailer. I find it so hard to believe that Uncharted 4 can look better than The Order. My jaw hit the floor when I saw this new trailer amazing. Best looking game on consoles or pc so far.

MelvinTheGreat@

Pc fanBoys sound so butt hurt pathetic and with hurt feelings because of their jealous of The Order graphics. There more to graphics than higher resolutions. Lightning, particle effects, texture qualities and shadow. The Order looks incredible better than any thing on pc . xbone can't do these graphics it's to weak. We all know high end PC have a lot of horsepower . But few people own high end PC and their so many different types of pc graphics card that developers don't use all their function and power. The Order looks incredible best graphics on any platform . The Order will be PS4 first real system seller.

Stapleface@
You make your self look foolish when you don't give credit were credit is due. I will say that ryse has great graphics it may play like crap put it looks great. No ryse is not the best graphics on game consoles but the best on xbone.
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SniperControl  +   158d ago
@MelvinTheGreat

My main gaming machine is a PC, with a PS4 chucked in for exclusives.

I must say, The Order looks totally amazing, i was actually god smacked at how this game looked and ran.

We all know that console games are optimised to the hilt due to same hardware, while PC games are not, due to the myriad of different components. There is only one game on PC that really pushes the graphical boundries and that is Crysis 3 and it is crap to play.

Guarantee this, The Order and Uncharted will steal E3.
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Hercules189  +   158d ago
@EvilSnuggle, You sound like a huge Sony fanboy. Its okay to have a preference to a certain console and its okay to only buy one console because maybe you might not like the games on the xbox, but do you really think that the xbox one cant produce a game that has the visuals of the order. Ryse has most certainly not maxed out the console yet and i'm sure the sequel will squash it, and I'm sure Halo 5 and Gears 4 will probably have the visual fidelity of the infiltrator demo, even tho Halo 5 uses a different engine, im sure they can pull off those same effects.
strifeblade  +   158d ago
Looks worse in my opinion. Can't believe ppl are buying this spin, looks far less detailedthan it's debut
Mr Pumblechook  +   158d ago
Sony and Ready at Dawn should have given more thought to revealing new game footage via Twitch! It is compressed and has just added some negativity discussion to their product. Hopefully they release a high quality video of the same footage. I can't wait to see more on the E3 stage.
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palaeomerus  +   158d ago
"lol, "next gen graphics" that pc has been able to produce for about 3-4 years now. And all at 1080p!"

Yeah letter boxed 1080P that only renders 75% of the pixels at 30 FPS with some frame drops. So graphically amazing. Cough.

" i was actually god smacked at how this game looked and ran. "

It's 'gob smacked'. Gob is UK slang for your mouth area.
ShinMaster  +   158d ago
@ MelvinTheGreat

Just because you can run a game in higher resolution doesn't make it "next-gen". Sorry, but old game is old. Doesn't matter what resolution you're running it on. It means little.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   159d ago
It's getting annoying that we are still using such low quality video players in the next generation. Last gen it wasn't so much of a problem, because games were only 720p (and many were under that). But now, we have higher resolutions, high res textures, more detail...and it's all going to waste on crappy YouTube videos.

I mean, look at that comparison gif, the newer build looks like a damn PS3 game because of the crappy quality (mixed with the darker tone). I bet devs are equally annoyed that their hard work is getting shown off in such an unflattering way.

I think more devs should do what Evolution studios has done with DriveClub and set up a dedicated page for high quality, 1080p captures. But maybe that's asking too much......

Gamersyde, SAVE US!
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IRetrouk  +   159d ago
I agree, we need access to higher quality videos, I think the low quality ones do more harm than good, a good clear video helps the image of a game, especially if its a highly anticipated one.
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ZodTheRipper  +   159d ago
Yes, it's about time developers & publishers look for better ways to show off their games. I could imagine that Sony's marketing department tried Twitch to see peoples interest and response but they probably didn't expect such a bad quality. I can imagine them being pretty disappointed as well, it would've been much smarter to just send the footage to Gamersyde.
ProSid  +   159d ago
I like how evolution has native 1080p videos on their site.
dmitrijs88  +   159d ago
I think we can safely call this game a system seller.
Greatness truly awaits.
IRetrouk  +   159d ago
Well we wont really know that untill its out and people get their hands on it, I can tell you one thing though, games like the order are the reason I invested in a ps4, quality first party titles from sony have constantly been the highlight of each gen for me and I look forward to getting my hands on them, really cant wait for this.
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Legacy212  +   158d ago
Lets slow down before we call it a system seller. We dont really know much about the game except that it has beautiful graphics. Gameplay and story is what matters. It can be the most beautiful game in the world but if its a 4 hour campaign with repititive corridor to corridor shooting its gonna get nailed. Fingers crossed thats not the case
shadyiswin  +   158d ago
every media outlet who played it say'd it look great but played shitty. Not exact words but yeah.

http://www.neoseeker.com/ne...

http://www.ign.com/articles...
Silly gameAr  +   158d ago
@shadyiswin

Have any articles that are more up to date or are you just here on the account of being kinda salty?
DigitalRaptor  +   158d ago
@ shadyiswin

Wow. So you're using a non-contextual alpha build from February?

Insane. And two outlets is not "every" outlet.

It's a shame... you were using old impressions of DriveClub to downplay it in the present too, even though there are more recent impressions and it's been super positive. The rumblings from judges week is that The Order impresses and impresses largely, in terms of gameplay as well as graphics.
Sevir  +   158d ago
@Shadyiswin

2 outlets that out of 30 press doesn't equal everyone. Secondly, that preview from Feb was also very much hands off, so those two outlets only stated that the build they saw was early. Exactly what Colin Moriarty of IGN said. Not that it played like shit. Those are your words. Run along XBO troll.
XiSasukeUchiha  +   158d ago
Damn this games look so flawless with model improvements :)
3-4-5  +   158d ago
1886 was one of a handful of games that ACTUALLY "wowed" me when I first saw it.

Worst case scenario = it still sells a million.
BallsEye  +   158d ago
Looks like a downgrade

http://i.imgur.com/bZsAA05....

90% of clothes details were removed. All the moving parts etc. Guy to the left with a beard now just looks plastic. I just don't believe in ceremonial/combat gear excuse. Next they'll say characters also had a skin treatment to make it smooth. It's not just clothes detail but also character detail and weapon detail. Many 3d elements turned into a texture. Game still looks fantastic, one of best one there (atleast until release) but I hate when they lie.

If you can't see the downgrade then there's no hope for you. Press disagree as much as you wan't, it doesn't mean you're right.
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seedaripper1973  +   158d ago
The new screens were captured from Twitch, you bloody ballsack.
DigitalRaptor  +   158d ago
You were saying the same thing about inFamous: Second Son before it came out, downplaying its graphical elements. And after it came out looking absolutely pristine, you were lying about it having been downgraded even though there was conclusive proof it received an upgrade rather than a downgrade.

This is damaged image quality captured from a Twitch stream, you buffoon. You can "see a downgrade" because it's a poor quality source.

People will disagree with you because you are known for downplaying graphics of Sony exclusives and then when it's proven to be bullsh*t you stick to your broken guns.

Have fun being proven wrong again, when the game comes out.
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hellzsupernova  +   158d ago
Msterxmedia is that you?
ziggurcat  +   158d ago
Ballseye,

Again, just stop. You're an embarrassment.

All you need to do is look at the bloody image used to promote this article to see that there's clearly been an upgrade. So do yourself a favour, and think before you post.
Acadius  +   158d ago
Sounds like you're in denial. So sad, too bad. @Ballseye
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rottencheese  +   158d ago
They changes the clothing but the assets are the same. The other ceremonial clothing still exist but were not suited for combat for the particular scene so they changed it to movement friendly uniform.
MasterCornholio  +   158d ago
Look I know that several exclusives received downgrades on the Xbox One (Like Ryse, Forza 5) but that doesn't mean that the same will happen to Playstation exclusives. Like Sucker punch said since the Playstation 4 is more powerful than the Xbox One developers so have no reason to downgrade their games on it. Because the games even without a downgrade will still look better than the Xbox One version.

This was their response to people claiming that they downgraded Infamous.
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showtimefolks  +   158d ago
can't wait to play it, people will overreact to just about everything
jhoward585  +   159d ago
The character models in the new build looks better to me because its looks natural/more realistic while the older build looks a bit more like the musketeer.

The art direction in the new build looks better.
Stapleface  +   159d ago
IDK how they look more realistic. In the old build the woman had an actual flesh color to her skin. Now her skin looks like she came back from the dead. Is she a vampire? I thought they were the enemy. If she isn't a vampire, she is very sick. Or Irish.
BluEx610  +   159d ago
I'm liking the new skin tone, seems to go well with the setting. The lighting in the new build looks insanely better. It kind of tricks your eyes thinking you're watching a really good CG movie.
Stapleface  +   159d ago
No it doesn't trick your eyes into thinking your watching a CG film. LOL I watched the same feed. The graphics were good, but not mind blowing. How does having the skin of a dead person fit into the setting? Even if I go into a dark, damp ally way in an old city, my skin is still going to be the same color. It's not going to look like I just crawled out of a morgue.
KeeseToast  +   159d ago
She looks way more realistic. Have you ever seen humans?
disKinected  +   159d ago
Graphics and lighting are mind blowing, best graphics so far I have seen...looks like CGI.
Cant wait for UC4 *drools*

Edit
I have been playing games for more than a decade and never have seen such a beautiful game.
Stop trolling this article, if you don't have any intention to play this game, you can leave this article asap.
Let the people who are excited for this game alone.
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Stapleface  +   159d ago
Yes I've seen humans. Not a single one of them that I know looks like they just had every drop of blood drained from their body. Look into the mirror. If your that white (if your white) come back and let me know. After that, head to the hospital, there is something very wrong.

@disKinected Best graphics you have ever seen? Haven't played many games in the past few years have you?
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phello  +   159d ago
Or Irish???
guyman  +   159d ago
Stapleface: the epitomy of butthurt. "you obviously haven't played many games in the past few years"

Usually, just saying, usually when new and improved hardware/consoles are released, then graphical quality improves. It is clear the graphics are mindblowing, but you clearly can't see that due to the fangirl glasses you're wearing.

EDIT: I have a question for anyone to answer: was this the footage that was shown to the press at an event last week? Or will we see more footage/details on the 27th according to what shinobi guy says?
Salooh  +   158d ago
I like the older color too but it will definitely look better in the newer version in term of texture and stuff like that.

They are aiming for that white color , it's not a graphical limitation. And yes , there are people that have really white skin.
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hellzsupernova  +   158d ago
They are in London, English are not known for having great tans
beebap  +   158d ago
Im from uk and yes im that pale..and ...im still alive!
imt558  +   159d ago
This game got visual improvement :
http://abload.de/img/compar...

And this comparison, despite the muddy picture, you can notice fog, lightning, post processing etc, better alpha effects...
http://images.gamersyde.com... http://s5.photobucket.com/u...
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jhoward585  +   159d ago
Agreed, the only complaint i have is 1886 need a bit more colors. Too gray for my taste.
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   159d ago
Who knows, maybe the sequel will be set in Barbados. Luscious blues and greens everywhere!

In all seriousness, i can understand someone being put off with the dull colour palette of the new build. But i personally think it captures the era perfectly. I think that will help tons with the atmosphere of the game.
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jhoward585  +   159d ago
@Lucas

You're right man. but most people can't stare at a great wall for long period of time.

Hopefully RAD would add a tad bit more color in 1886 to give variety throughout the game.
RytGear  +   159d ago
Trust me, that colour palette is as true to the era as can be, hell even today with the reduced emissions england is nearly always grey.
ZodTheRipper  +   159d ago
The colors will come from fire, lightning and all these kinds of effects. I for one don't worry about the environment since I trust RAD to know it better than me. I know that it will look glorious on my own TV and that videos can't do it justice anyway.
imt558  +   159d ago
@jhoward585

Look the Thief game.
CryofSilence  +   158d ago
It's set in industrial England, so it will be pretty grey/copper, but I think there will be plenty of variety in other environments.
Fez  +   158d ago
New build is far too monotone for my liking too.
So much damage control going on in here.

For those saying it is more realistic for the time and setting... facepalm. Foliage was still green, red brick was still clearly distinguishable from brown wood or grey walls, shop fronts were still full of colour. Clothing could have colour too.

I don't like the new colour filter and change of costume. I thought reviewers had played an early build of the game looking brilliant and colourful? Is this just a style choice (strange one imo) or are they downgrading to meet spec/release date?
SniperControl  +   158d ago
Good comparison. in the June pic, she looks like a bloke in drag, the March pic, she definitely looks more feminine.
boya3gob94  +   159d ago
But wait Iwata said that Next gen wont offfer a big difference and the Wii u will be able to catch up with PS4 and Xone. Sorry Wii u owners who thought that they were getting a next gen console
KeeseToast  +   159d ago
LMAO and we haven't even seen Uncharted yet!
snookiegamer  +   159d ago
Why bring Wii U into this?

That's trolling...pure n simple!
Consoleslateagain  +   158d ago
PS fanboy logic# 11
when ps fans get good news, belittle other consoles.
MRMagoo123  +   158d ago
fanboy logic#12

Have a user name like "Consoleslateagain" so really you cant say sh!t without looking like a complete hypocrite.
rottencheese  +   158d ago
Any fanboy* logic: support and downplay rivals.
Any fan* logic: support and blow cool wind
Qrphe  +   158d ago
Sad part is that Iwata said the same thing around the Wii's release.
Naughty__Boy  +   159d ago
The graphics look stunning even on the poor twitch stream, Just think how they will look when we are playing the game on our tv`s.

Oh yer did anyone notice how tiny some of the text was? It was barely readable hopefully that was because of the poor stream though.
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KeeseToast  +   159d ago
Didn't notice it, but if true it could be a placeholder until they make something better.
LightDiego  +   159d ago
Looks great, some people are jealous, that's it.
disKinected  +   159d ago
Exactly.. These people praise ryse but are criticizing the order for being generic, Lol.
Wonder if these people would claim the same thing after seeing gears of war 4.
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Ol_Boy  +   159d ago
The Order 1886 just keeps getting better and better for me. Too bad that video quality was crap.
Tedakin  +   159d ago | Well said
I'm a bit of an Xbot, but that footage today on Twitch looked fucking awesome. This is the game I'm waiting to get a PS4 for.
Blackleg-sanji  +   159d ago
gave u a bubble for admitting that game on true gamer
MasterCornholio  +   159d ago
Don't be an Xbot be a gamer. You don't want to lower yourself to the level of Xbots like Truefan, Georgeenoob, Greenpowers, Edonus and KNWS.

:)
Tedakin  +   159d ago
Well let me rephrase, I do prefer Xbox more. I have actual personal and business reasons for doing so though, and have had jobs connected to Xbox in the past. I was a way bigger PS2 guy though 2 gens ago. I just tend to pull for Xbox to succeed over PS, but a cool game is a cool game and I eventually end up owning both consoles every generation anyway.
shivvy24  +   158d ago
Damn what happened to greenpowerz, haven't read his crap in a while lol
EXVirtual  +   158d ago
Based on your comment to MasterC, you're not an Xbot at all. Lol
And agreed, it does look quite cool.
rottencheese  +   158d ago
Just be a fan of games. Wouldn't that be best?
Tedakin  +   158d ago
Definitely. It's odd. Others hatred for what I like makes me pull against what they like. I don't have a problem with Sony or the PS. I've had tons of fun with every PS. Sometimes the fans just act so obnoxious it rattles the whole thing. Fanboys aren't good for anything. They're not helping their brand by acting like little shits.
90Supra  +   159d ago
*Arnold voice*

We need that direct-feed video, NAAAAOOOW!!!
press-start  +   158d ago
Loool funny bubble from me..
purp13m0nk3y  +   159d ago
Ha ha! Downgrade!? Said no one ever!

The latest video looks amazing. Having been a gamer for nearly three decades I was honestly blown away. It's the sort of image quality I've been dreaming of since the Atari 2600 days.

It looks almost CGI ffs. If this is what is possible from the PS4 mere months after launch then the future of console gaming is bright indeed!

I can't believe people are criticising these visuals! Seriously your eyes must be painted on if you're not at least a little impressed lol
MasterCornholio  +   159d ago
"Ha ha! Downgrade!? Said no one ever! "

Only Mister X and his followers say that. They are a pathetic bunch of losers in my opinion.
IRetrouk  +   159d ago
It was tried with infamous ss too, a change of lighting and low quality video was all it took, it was proven false so I have no worries for this game.
purp13m0nk3y  +   158d ago
It seems there is a lot of negativity lately when ever a game shows potential. Usually by the opposing camp. Sad really.

And before I get stealth disagess from the Ms camp. My statement goes both ways. The PS fan boys are the first to show up and dis a Xbox exclusive when it shows promise.

Come on people, credit when credit is due. Don't be haters lol.
sdozzo  +   159d ago
The old footage was like a movie. No one thought it would be like that. Hell, why even watch trailers unless it's game footage.
pornflakes  +   158d ago
Games looks really mindblowing, to bad it wont support multiplayer so you guys dont need to buy it just rend it.

I mean with Second Son, you could get platin over the weekend.

Cant wait to see the next unreal engine 4 games, they will blow everything away.
Spotie  +   158d ago
I tend to work and spend time with my girl on the weekend. And I've never blown through a game. I like to get my money's worth, which means I'm not into speed runs.
MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
"it wont support multiplayer so you guys dont need to buy it just rend it."

Too bad you're a known troll so your attempt here fails.
Master-H  +   158d ago
Well on Playstation we actually like singleplayer games, so no, we'll BUY it.
You can rent Titanfall or whatever repetitive multiplayer dudebro game you're into until they drop the servers (much like them two PC modes they took out).
SoCalledMe  +   158d ago
New footage show that there is more going on on female chars face , I guess the complaints about new version is the skin tone but that comes to personal preference, hell I'd honestly like skin tone of first shown version with lighting from new version
AgentSmithPS4  +   158d ago
She's a handsome woman, but at least I won't see rants about this game creating impossible standards of beauty for 'our girls', etc :P.
SoCalledMe  +   158d ago
Because of slightly different skin tone ? And I'm pretty sure shes modeled using mock-up so whatever she looks like , there's a real world girl looking like that so its not impossible standard
HaydenJameSmith  +   158d ago
How is that: http://s5.photobucket.com/u...

better than this: http://images.gamersyde.com...

or the top looks better in this than the bottom: http://i58.tinypic.com/2db3...

I'm sorry but I realise that it wasn't direct feed but there has clearly been a downgrade, it's not just a different direction it art like new uniforms (which btw seems very convenient to lower poly count with less detailed armor).

http://conceptartworld.com/...

This looked cool but now it looks less cool, I still think the game looks great but not better than the previous footage... I look forward to playing...

@IRetrouk
No he doesn't... If you wanna believe what a dev tells you go ahead but everyone pointed out the downgrade in Forza 5 and now this time The Order gets downgraded and everyone just ignores it and thinks its just different art direction and better shadowing... Its hypocrisy...
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IRetrouk  +   158d ago
The dev addresses your post to a t.
DoesUs  +   158d ago
Lets wait for the game to release shall we.
DarkLordMalik  +   158d ago
Have you played the game to make this claim or you are simply basing your judgement on a compressed to hell and beyond video?

You do realize that you are comparing official screenshots to blurry mess.
MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
"everyone pointed out the downgrade in Forza 5…"

It's hard to miss those Forza downgrades, though some people still deny it happened.

You might as well have not posted those top two links. There's no way a sane person can compare them.

The double pic link, yeah I think the new pic looks better than the old one. The uniforms are different but the dev talked about that. The skin tone is different but a different color can hardly be called a downgrade. Overall the newer pic looks less like a video game and more like a CG movie than the old one does.

The last link… that's quite a comparison… a picture compared to your word that the game looks less cool now.

If there has been a downgrade, and I don't see one yet but I don't rule out that it could happen before release, it's nowhere near comparable to the Forza downgrades which any honest person with average vision can easily see.
HaydenJameSmith  +   158d ago
I'm allowed to make my own intial opinion... and honestly this isn't fanboyism, I am really looking forward to this game. It looks like a major downgrade to me, I still reiterated that I think its still good looking but not better than previous footage. If there making sacrifices for facial animations that are pre rendered I do not agree with that. I didn't deny Forza didn't get a downgrade but I still think Forza 5 looks great and same applies here I think The order 1886 has been downgraded but still looks great. That is an honest opinion, not fanboyism...

Btw that last link was concept art, not in game footage... I was just showing that because I thought it looked cool...

Why cant the first two links be compared ? it shows a downgrade... detail is absent in the sign, bullet holes missing on wall etc. I realise its compressed video but that doesn't remove details/colour from the game...

Your saying the absence of colour is better ? how so ? Im sorry but I think your being fooled... they removed more colour to make the CG look better

I'm sorry but if you had an honest opinion toward this footage and this footage alone you wud admit details have been downgraded, and colour removed, in favour of better facial animation of pre rendered cutscenes... This is just my initial opinion and save judgement till game release or full featured demo at E3 but my point still stand the game has been downgraded... If you don't want to see it, that's your problem...
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MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
"I'm allowed to make my own intial opinion…"

Of course you are, and others are allowed to either agree or disagree.

"Why cant the first two links be compared ? it shows a downgrade... detail is absent in the sign, bullet holes missing on wall etc. I realise its compressed video but that doesn't remove details/colour from the game…"

I don't know what you're seeing but when I click those top two links I get the equivalent of a low res youtube video vs a blu ray. I just don't see how they're comparable. Of course compression can hide details.

I don't understand why you think a change in color can lead to improvements in facial animation.

I'm not really convinced yet that I want to play this game because I haven't seen anything other than the visuals that wowed me, but I do think it looks amazing visually and I honestly don't see a downgrade.

*shrug*
PLASTICA-MAN  +   158d ago
HaydenJameSmith is the same trolling the_batman here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The pic and his same trolling statements here and there betrayed him. So please don't continue arguing with him, because even if the devs explain everything he won't get convinced.

Anyway the game looks very good and even better than before, looking forward to higher quality video and to the E3 live stage demo. :D
MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
@Plastica - Yeah when he started PMing me saying a different color would free up more resources I knew what kind of person I was dealing with.
Master-H  +   158d ago
Cry more, maybe the tears will blur your vision and help you look past the massive Forza 5 downgrades and dem card board cut outs might finally look 3d to you lul
jetlian  +   158d ago
its been downgraded but still looks good. Outside tlou:r this the other game im looking for on ps4.

notice everybody whos posting before haydenjames hasnt mention this pic

http://i58.tinypic.com/2db3... clear as day walls have less detail and the scene is jaggy
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HaydenJameSmith  +   158d ago
I know, yeah I'm sorry but you'd have to be a complete idiot to defend that image... I still think the game looks good to but it is clear as day that they have made downgrades to details...
MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
What's clear as day if you look at the raw image is that the newer pic is a lower res and therefore more blurry. More blurry = Less detail
DigitalRaptor  +   158d ago
Of course people have seen that image, and it doesn't spell anything of a "downgrade" as you wished it did.

The image is taken from a low-resolution and blurry TwitchTV stream. The fine details of the original source are marred by the way it was decided to be shown. Sony should've just posted a high-quality 1080p download and we wouldn't have the usual suspects crying "downgrade" even when they continue to be proven wrong time and time again.

Remember this? http://www.dualshockers.com...

@ HaydenJameSmith

You'd have to be a complete idiot to not realise that people are comparing high-quality assets to poor-quality assets. Do you have no knowledge or understanding of image quality?

And from your post above there, you seem to actually believe that colour gamut affects the quality of the image or what they are able to do in the engine. You clearly don't understand game development or the science behind imagery if you believe that - and if you believe compression doesn't affect details in the frame, again, you can't know what you're talking about. I can't believe people can be THIS delusional or stupid.
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PLASTICA-MAN  +   158d ago
The new suits ideas matching environments and situations is good, looking forward to see more suits.
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Auron  +   158d ago
looks downgraded. plain and simple....
Darkstares  +   158d ago
One of the problems is we see these things in poor controlled environments. YouTube and compressed videos are never going to be optimal.
Illusive_Man  +   158d ago
This game is missing roughly 26% of the pixels of a true 1080p game. The fact they are still pimping resolution is sad, but the fact they lie about it is even worst.
AnteCash  +   158d ago
Hey man i saw you boxing, goood stuff illusive man
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
purp13m0nk3y  +   158d ago
Ummm. Not sure what your trying to say exactly. The devs have been completely open about the resolution, the aspect ratio and their reasons for using them.

They have also stated several times that the game would be easier to run in full 1080p with a less demanding AA.

The choice to use extremely demanding x4MSAA and the reduced pixel count were calculated and deliberate and IMO have played off with the gorgeous visuals.

The devs have been nothing but transparent about this issue.

Good try, but fail. Back under your bridge. By your reasoning a bluray disk with a 16:10 aspect ratio is poorer quality due to having less pixels than a full screen bluray. Same pixel density dude. Just a different aspect ratio.

Do you also dis a director if he chooses to film his movie in an aspect ratio that is not "full screen" on your TV?
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MysticStrummer  +   158d ago
He's not trying to say anything except "Sony lies!".
Nine_Thousaaandd  +   158d ago
Couldn't have said it better myself...well said!

I have no doubts...that the The Order will be in the top picks for GOTY! The choice for presentation and x4MSAA will pay off big time...I see no downgrades, but a game that will set standards high for this generation. I believe RaD will deliver a next gen masterpiece!
Illusive_Man  +   158d ago
A BluRay is not rendering a movie real time using computations from a GPU. This game is being presented the way it is because the developers cannot achieve full screen 1080p without compromises to their vision. There is no need to feed us bullcrap, the game still looks excellent.
ArbitorChief  +   158d ago
Hard to judge if it was downgraded considering the footage shown was low resolution and the frame rate was all over the place, but it's similar to Infamous where they've made changes to the build and it looks worse, but honestly it doesn't matter, game visually looks great, but the gameplay looks fairly meh.
Speak_da_Truth  +   158d ago
"looks worst" I love this haters i feed on their jealousy and it makes me want the order even more infact i'll be getting the collectors edition and btw inFAMOUS looks great
ArbitorChief  +   158d ago
Well IMO, the previous build of The Order looked better, am I wrong for thinking otherwise? I didn't say Infamous look bad, I even said The Order still looked great visually. Jesus you fanboys get upset so easily. End of the day, game looks like a poor mans Gears of War gameplay wise.
sin7279  +   158d ago
downgraded???? looks beter then before! fanboys is so stupid and blind!
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Speak_da_Truth  +   158d ago
where are the haters??? you ppl make me want this game even more common bring on the hate lol
Father__Merrin  +   158d ago
The Order should the renamed to "The Ownage" it looks incredible...
bleedsoe9mm  +   158d ago
definitely looks like allot less detail , smudged and darkened to hide it , but i don't really care as long as it plays well and has a good story .
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MRMagoo123  +   158d ago
yeh that compressed footage sure looks less detailed, I wonder if there is a reason for that , cos it cant be its compressed and all right cos that wouldnt lower detail huh derp.

You xbone fangirls really need to either try A LOT harder or not even bother because this is just sad.
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bleedsoe9mm  +   157d ago
you must have gotten the name magoo because of you eye sight . what's sad is adjusting your opinion because your on a side in a fairytale console war , grow up and do some independent thought
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TomahawkX  +   158d ago
Really looking forward to playing this game.
Keregan  +   158d ago
Lol infiltration clothes, are the walls also some kinds of infiltration walls as well as infiltration weapons lol downgraded obviously.
JMyers  +   158d ago
The game looks better, and the facial animations are top notch !

This is all Sony needs to show before E3. Let everyone else tease and hype with talking the talk. Sony will just walk the walk.
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Patrick_pk44  +   158d ago
Graphically it seems as there actually is a downgrade. From the face and the lighting to the room. New build is much more dark and foggy, while the previous showed much more crisp and detailed environments (the photo with all the characters lined up). The clothes are worse then before, I actually preferred the previous builds detail. I can't fully judge until I see more footage, I won't trust E3 footage because that consists of a lot of bullshots. I'll probably receive many down votes from you Sonydrones (funny because I myself love Sony), however you are the same people who believed Watch Dogs didn't receive a downgrade until the final product was shown and went to bitch about it. Stop being a drone and see what's in front of you.
Ethereal  +   158d ago
Man I am getting pumped for this game. So unique!
HollywoodLA  +   158d ago
My understanding is that Sony decided to show the brief video on twitch, as a response to Microsoft's price drop - but the action itself indicated that they were planning on showing this at E3, and had to respond immediately to their competition, instead opting to show it via Twitch.
Shane Kim  +   158d ago
Why don't all the xbox fanatics just get a PS4 and play this amazing game instead of being so jelaous.
HollywoodLA  +   158d ago
I don't care about any of this. I just watched the video -- oh my god, it looks great.

Gears of War in 1886.

Love it. Can't wait. AAA.
Kratos_Thy_God  +   158d ago
lol at people saying the game was downgraded. Have you even seen the picture?
system22  +   158d ago
Yeah. I think it actually looks better
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