NWR: Ubisoft's E3 2014 lineup won't feature any Nintendo games, according to the publisher.
Because Nintendo is about to file chapter 11... That's what. How can anyone be surprised by this?
Nintendo has 10+ billion in the bank. What are you talking about?
10 billion in the bank yet where still getting the same franchises over and over again. It wouldn't hurt to mix it up a bit or invest in some new IP's. How about buying proper 3rd party support? Nintendo needs to put that money to good use instead of this whole QOL junk that for all we know won't be gaming related. ;)
Regurgitating the same stuff, over and over eh? Hey guys, remember Hyrule Warriors on the NES and its sequel installments leading up to Wii U? Cuz I sure don't. Hey LOL_WUT, I know you like spreading lies and misinformation about Nintendo, but you could try to be a little more subtle about it. edit: Also why are you judging the QOL business model? You don't know anything about it other than it is health related. Jeez, talk about needy.
Oh really? Chapter 11 you say? Also, I imagine Ubisoft isn't referring to unannounced games like Just Dance 2015 which I imagine will come to Wii U. If any new Rayman is in the works Wii U would be the number one platform since Legends sold best on it too and they wouldn't talk about it before E3 if so.
I agree with lol wut. And randomass Hyrule looks like ass. I have a WiiU and the only game on the system I care about is Mario kart. Nothing else is even remotely interesting. Even if 3rd pairs brought games to the WiiU I would not buy them. Having other systems with more power and better online makes Nintendo only good for their franchises that they run out year after year. Nintendo tried to be different and bombed. The have the game pad to be different and don't even use it.
@ random; Pretty sure he most would consider hyrule warriors as a "Zelda game". And I think that was more what wut was referring to. Like, super mario bros, smash bros, Mario kart, Mario golf, luigi's mansion etc, those would all fall under "Mario games" for most of us. We all love Nintendo, but when I see people essentially saying "stay the course, everyone else will come around to how we think eventually", they're effectively helping to condemn wii u. I love my wii u, but of all the mascot franchises, I only own 1. The rest are games like monster hunter, wonderful 101, bayonetta 2, assassin's creed 3 ad so on. I know Nintendo fans tend to hate this line , but the mascot titles appeal mainly to kids. Apart from them, avid Nintendo fans and hardcore gamers tht own every system they can, Nintendo isn't getting much support, and sadly, that's not a big enough umbrella. The casuals left after wii and the gamepad is seen as a gimmick. To me, Nintendo has proven they're the best at innovation, but said innovation is being strangled by the donkey kongs and Zelda's of the roster.
In the last 12 months they spent half of that 10 bilion on.. well actually what the hell HAVE they spent it on???
@lolwut "yet where still getting the same franchises over and over again" Sure we are and Pikman 3, Lego City Undercover, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, X, Hyrule Warriors, Fatal Frame Also do you expect Nintendo to not make MK, a Mario platformer, Zelda, and SSB for new consoles? BTW MK and SSB only happen once each gen, it is pretty much tradition and people buy the system expecting these games. It would be like buying a PS4/Xbone and not getting series like Halo and GoW.
". It wouldn't hurt to mix it up a bit or invest in some new IP's" They have. But obviously you pretend they don't exist. Or : "Not my type of games". And yet you're also one of the twofaced trolls here who praises their "rehashed" games that get a great score. Stop stealing oxygen please. " instead of this whole QOL junk that for all we know won't be gaming related. ;)" Damn you Microsoft for windows! Damn you Sony for your electronics. Damn you all to hell. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
@lol wut Do you not know Nintendo has over 100 IPs in it's stable? Have you not heard about their new ventures to license these out to third parties? Is Sony's music or Movie departments any more gaming related than QOL (which will be integrated into games by all accounts from Nintendo)?
How can people disagree with what I said when it is fact? I mean I have met stupid people but this is a whole new level.
Looks like they're giving Nintendo the UbiShaft this year.
At least Ubisoft tried to support the Wii U, unlike EA or WB Games, who released neutered ports of three-year-old games. While I'm disappointed by this news, I can't really blame them. Ubisoft gave the system a chance. At one point, they were supporting it more than Nintendo themselves were. More people should've bought ZombiU. It was amazing.
Cant argue with any of that. Well said.
Not really delayed and gimped games doesn't count as good support in my book
Yea they got shafted by Ubihard lol
Didn't expect that.
I guess they really don't want Watchdogs to sell. You'd think they'd at least release one screenshot. And they're surprised why the Wii U versions of their games don't sell. Sad fact of the matter is that most gamers do not even know Wii U versions of a number of titles even exist. Or due to lack of advertisement, have no idea why the Wii U version provides a better experience compared to other versions of said games.
No one was going to buy it on the Wii U anyways
How does that help the company investing in the development anyways? What backward logic is this? "Let's use some of our budget to make a game, but lets make sure we don't want to sell it. Meanwhile having payed for licensing costs and what not " - Wut? Most economical thing to do is NOT develop it for the WiiU in the first place.
"I guess they don't really want Watchdogs to sell." Uh you do realize that game is gonna sell like hotcakes on PS4/XB1/PC right ? "And they're surprised why the Wii U versions of their games don't sell" Uh that goes for every 3rd party game on the Wii U, not just Ubisofts games. No one is buying a Wii U for 3rd party games.
Rayman Legends and The Wonderful 101, which both have great attach rates, disagree.
@wonderfulmonkeyman, wonderful 101 is a 1st party game
@wonderfulmonkeymon 1. Is your user name a reference to the song "Monkey Man" by The Specials? 2. Wonderful 101 is not a third party game and it by no means (as much as I loved it) as a good attach rate. Its sold like 70k globally. There's no way Nintendo, Platinum or anyone made any money off it, just to be accurate.
When did Nintendo buy platinum? Wonderful 101 is third party, it aint multiplat but its third party.
the problem is 'better experience' is subjective..... Wii U versions look the same or worst than 360/PS3 so its hard to market them through screen shots and stuff, they also normally have frame rate issues..... the upside is that they have stuff like managing inventories and maps through the second screen and some feature of-screen play but Nintendo clearly overestimated the appeal of those features as most people don't seem to care about them enough to buy a console just for that
Yea they will get tons of wiiu sales! /s
I wonder if anyone besides Nintendo themselves will bother with the Wii U this year? I dont really follow Nintendo news so have no idea. The guy above me (stragomccloud) makes a good point. Sometimes browsing in store I notice games on Wii U I didnt even know were on it. Most the time I dont even notice the Wii U displays though, theyre always tiny.
I mean no Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, The Division, Watchdogs, Sniper elite 3, Wolfenstein I mean the list can go on and on... Nintendo brought this upon themselfs so it's not surprising that Ubisoft has given up on the WiiU ;)
No, THIRD PARTIES brought it upon themselves by going with gimped ports instead of tons of unique new exclusives that would have attracted more attention than games we've already played last gen.
With how Sniper Elite 2 was handled, you even WANT a Sniper Elite 3 on Wii U?
Nintendo did bring it upon themselves. They got lazy. The wii was the worst thing to happen to Nintendo. Nintendo fans are so blind.
@wonderfulmonkeyman Don't just blame it on third parties. Nintendo made a system that isn't appealing to the masses. Why would third parties risk spending a lot on a decent port/new ips when the instal base is: A low with little growth. B tend not to buy anything but Nintendo. The fact Ubisoft isn't showing any Wii U game should emphasis the issue. It is clearly not worth doing. Which is a Nintendo creation (see previous generations)
HAHAHAHAHA tell em! LOL_WUT is simply speaking the truth and the fanboys cant take it. SIMPLE AS THAT. its so awesome to meet gamers who have common sense who are real! i love it!
Sega, Tecmo KOEI, Atlus, Namco and other Japanese Publishers are collaborating with Nintendo on games and have unannounced titles. So no you're wrong. Western Publishers dont like Nintendo.
I think Activision is still working with them, but other than that I can't think of many that are even producing games for the Wii U.
The heck do you expect?????? Wake up people, what do you want ubisoft to make with the poor hardware power of Wii u????? Be real!
You haven't been a member for a full two days and you can already tell what your agenda is going to be. Be smart on how you use your bubbles and which topics you decide to weigh in on.
That 'weak hardware' is capable of making games as awesome as The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, X from Monolith Soft, Sonic Boom/Lost World, and quite a few others that are coming down the pipe. The system's power isn't such a negative that it prevents the creation of truly worth-having games. Your argument is invalid.
Firstly they are exclusives. Exclusives come with the territory of making good games since the game is optimised for that system. That is why those games look/are good. They are made for one system Secondly it doesn't make his argument invalid. We have already seen the effect of having games developed with weaker systems in mind (they don't perform as expected) With the move going for nex generation only (not having it appear on past generations like the PS3 and 360) the Wii U weaker system argument is fairly valid since it is weaker than the XBO and PS4. His argument is in relation to a third party perspective and they want to make games that can be best optimised (incorporating weaker systems makes that harder to do). This all makes it difficult to sell when your competitors are not supporting the Wii U
@ IAM His argument was that the Wii U is too weak for Ubisoft to make good games. I gave him two perfect examples of games that are incredible on the system. The fact that they're exclusives built from the ground up on the system doesn't invalidate the fact that they're still incredible games, proving that third parties CAN do a great job with the hardware of the system when they actually TRY TO. So yes, his point IS invalid. Now as for you, what you're trying to argue, is that multiplatform titles are what matter, but the fact is, AAA THIRD PARTIES HAVE SCREWED THEMSELVES OVER BY NOT DOING THEM RIGHT. That's not the fault of the hardware; that's the fault of third parties for not realizing that they'd get more sales out of interesting, mature exclusives instead of ports that aren't correctly optimized. Many of those multiplatform titles that are already on the Wii U could easily handle all of the things that these third party multiplatform titles have in them on other systems. THIRD PARTIES JUST DON'T DO THEM RIGHT. They leave out content, slash out entire game modes, raise the price higher than it should be, don't promote them on the system, and then do exactly what you're trying to do; blame Nintendo for it. If they want sales, they need to stop making these same BS mistakes and start releasing games we'll actually WANT on the system. Not gimped ports of multiplatform games that people already have their hearts set on getting for other systems. AAA Exclusive titles. They CAN make those for the Wii U. And they should, if they want to sell on the console, because ports just aren't going to cut the mustard anymore.
While the Wii U is underpowered, if you look around, 1.29 and 1.8 TFlops for its competitors are also underpowered when you consider on PC you have single GPU's that pull off 3-4 TFlops for a reasonable price, or that you can SLI these, or the even higher end obscene parts and get 20 TFlops. Hell if the Titan-Z comes out this year and you quad-sli that, it would be 32 TFlops. 32 TFlops vs 1.8, 1.29, ~0.5....which three are around the same power level, and which one isn't? Then wonder to yourself what PC will be doing in 2 years, 4 years, 6-7 years just before even new consoles come out. Now that said, you can have alot of fun with the Wii U, XB1, and PS4. But let's not pretend the others did something much different. All 3 consoles are underpowered by console standards. An Xbox 360 was close in power to a $3,000-4,000 PC when it came out, and had some tech that wouldn't even come to PC's for a couple years, but you can build a comparable XB1 PC for about $500. That's a massive change. We all get, and agree Nintendo should have made a more powerful console. We should also agree that like Microsoft and Sony, they should have switched to X86. Together that would have garnered much more 3rd party support. We can also blame Nintendo fairly for having the price too high and not having an even cheaper SKU with a pro controller instead of the at launch bill of materials ~$168 Gamepad. Ubisoft has made many games utilizing much less power then the Wii U has, and so they are easily capable of making some good games, and have on the Wii U. The reason I don't expect many Wii U games is because their games haven't sold well on the Wii U. I bought at least 3 or 4 on the Wii U, so I supported them, but Nintendo has some major problems and Ubisoft strongly supported the system. They've made some errors, like holding back Rayman, and now holding back Watch Dogs. Horrible mistakes that basically cement Ubisoft's declining future support for the Wii U. I was genuinely interested in a Wii U version of Watch Dogs, due to the gamepad, however I'm not waiting 4-6 months more when I have a PS4 and even better PC where I was able to pre-order Watch Dogs for $33. Not waiting 6 months and paying double. Just not. So I see it as what happens often in life where everybody tries to do the right thing, but crap happens and screws it all up. Ubisoft tried, but everything they've done hasn't worked on the Wii U. Then the few mistakes they made reinforce the early mistakes. It's not that Ubisoft can't make good games on Wii U, it's that gamers don't want to buy the Wii U, and thus Ubisoft doesn't make much of a return, and most likely a loss on their Wii U titles. Thus because of this situation, and the fact Ubisoft is in the business of producing games to make money, I am not surprised they are rumored not to show any Nintendo games at E3.
I like Tflops, I like them alot! 8tflops plus DX12 next year for the win!
No kid no... 1.) A titan-z can NOT be quad sli'd because it's a 2 cards in 1 thing like the 690. So it can only be SLI'd twice. 2.) Also a titan-z costs $3,000 or $6,000 for two... A PS4 costs $399. To cool the titan z would cost a fortune and you would need an absouletly INANE PSU. Overall to build a PC with dual titan-z's would cost 10 grand. As I said a PS4 costs $399 and honestly I dont see 10 grand as a mass market thing. That makes the ps4 cost 3.9% of the PC. ABSOLUTE SHI* comparison 3.) If anyone wastes 10 grand just to play games at a better res and slightly better texture quality you honestly have issues.
It's not that Ubisoft can't make games on the Wii U, it's that Ubisoft can't make the money they wish too off making games on the Wii U. They made a valiant effort, and it's up to Nintendo to carry the console with 1st party offerings, which can look quite nice due to it having much more modern tech under the hood then the 360/PS3. That's why games like EA's NFS: Most Wanted looked multiple times better on Wii U then on the 360/PS3....and if you compared the Wii U version to the PC version, you saw it was easily the 2nd best version and looked like a lesser of the PC version, rather then a clone of the 360/PS3 version. But it takes alot of time and money for companies to make such games, especially because it is Power PC and not X86 like PS4/XB1/PC. Again with low console sales, and much of those sales being Nintendo 1st party dedicated type players, those specially made games for the Wii U simply don't make money. Perhaps this can slightly change with some good 1st party Nintendo games and a price cut pushing up adoption rates, but my guess is that these specially made games will be few and far between. The Wii U still provided the most fun CoD experience I've had in years with BLOPS2. But the low playercount forced me to go to PS4 version. Now that it's late May I can still say I had a lot more fun using the gamepad on Wii U in BLOPS2 to call in killstreaks and such, then the turd CoD:Ghosts was on a superior tech PS4 platform.
EDIT: Wrong topic, stupid firefox tabs.
shocker......only ppl who can save the wiiU honestly are nintendo and the hardcore fans(im one of them)
If saving the WiiU is the equivalent of clinging desperately to a piece of driftwood awaiting rescue in the middle of the ocean then yes, you hardcore fans and Nintendo will do a bang up job of "saving" the WiiU.
Nintendo won't be able to continue down this path of terrible 3rd party support
Western Third Party. They are creating games with Japanese Publishers.
I prefer Western games. 2003 was a long time ago.
Let's be honest, do you honestly think 3rd party support is really that significant or do you just want more Wii U games to play? Because Wii U had a LOT more third party support at launch that went no where.
Yes, I think third party support is really that important. That's why the PS3 is perceived by the majority of gamers as the best console of last generation: because it had a lot of exclusive games, PLUS third party support. In my book, both first and third party support are equally important for a console. Historically speaking, Nintendo has had poor third party support ever since the Nintendo 64 days. Because of this, a stigma has grown about Nintendo that you don't buy their consoles for third parties, you buy them for Nintendo games. In my opinion, that's a rather flawed and limited point of view. I would LOVE to have a Nintendo console that gets all the awesome games that Nintendo makes as usual, but also gets excellent multiplatform games. If that was the case, I would tend to get multiplatform games on a Ninty console as opposed to a Sony or Microsoft console. Now, will that ever happen? Is it possible with the Wii U? I don't know, but that's not really my problem, is it? It's Nintendo's problem to figure out. :/
yeah but for what?? The 3 or 4 decent 3rd party games coming out this year?
Indies count as third party, too, and there's over 120 of those coming out for the Wii U.
Nintendo, you have GOT to stop pretending that being behind the curve is ok. You had an unusual hit with the Wii but your consistent stance of being behind the pack won't work forever. Stop pretending that outdated looks on technology is fine as long as you have some kind of gimmick. Bad Nintendo! Bad Nintendo!
A lot of die hard Nintendo fans upset that I spoke some truth. Hey, I used to love Nintendo back in the day, too. Their focus on a casual market, however, did not win me over so be mad if you guys want. You know I'm right, though.
I'd be shocked if any dev/publisher except Nintendo will be showing any Nintendo games @ E3...unless it's for the 3DS.
nail in the coffin... well, i'm just glad I got a 2D mario game (in HD), a 3D mario game, a new DKC, a new Mario Kart, a new Smash and a Zelda game in HD before this all comes to an end... anything else is a bonus. Hopefully they at least throw in a new Metroid, If we're lucky then also A Starfox, Fzero and maybe a Punchout game... and that'll pretty much be a wrap!
Nail in the coffin? You're joking right? The annualized trash ubisoft releases not being on Wii U won't kill the console.
ok, well then past the nintendo stuff, you tell me.. what's left? EA skipped out, Activision they don't have a COD announcement and now UBI is gone... who's left? Because capcom ain't doing the saving anymore, they tried that before, they're broke... so is sega.
I'm not really that surprised. Still sucks though, I feel bad for Wii U owners.
LoL why I wasn't going to buy asscreed or watchdogs or gta. Leave that to the junior pc owners. Crap is boring. This will just raise the quality of the wiiu library. Indies are still on board along with japan. I feel sorry for online penalty for not being online and the bs that is coming for ps4 and xbone owners.
3rd Party is extremely important to all platforms. With just 1st Party and indies you would miss out on a lot of great games.
You sound just like Mr.Yamauchi before the GameCube released.