OnlySP: According to supposed industry insider Tidux, Uncharted 4 may be a little different than previous entries in the series.
Oh no, Foxtrot isn't going to like this ;p I'm all for a darker tone, though. Not as dark as TLOU....but darker than previous Uncharted games. Although i think i may be in the minority.
As long as it's not too dark I'm ok with it going in that direction, I think Naughty Dog learned a lot from The Last of Us about creating more mature themes, so Uncharted might have a much more compelling story than the previous entries because of that. At least that's my hope.
@Lukas I don't think that is darker in color but more in theme. Edit: This wasn't for you, but for Lukas.
pedro93 What? That's exactly what I said ha, where did you get "color" out of that?
@pedro By "tone" i meant tone of the game in terms of atmosphere and how it feels. Not "tone" as in the colour of the game.:p And huh....24 agrees, 0 disagrees. I guess im not in the minority, lol.
(Spoiller alert)No, this happened because Amy Henning left. They wanted to kill Elena with Uncharted 2 but the writer wanted her in the story... Now Amy left and they are going to kill Elene and creater a darker story
I don't think this is good news. The thing that makes uncharted great is that it is lighthearted and adventurous... its like the game version of indiana jones and thats why I love it. Uncharted is why I bought a PS3 (my first game on PS3 was uncharted 2). It seems like they had a lot of success with tlou (which was a great game) and now they are giving uncharted a similar tone. I play uncharted for the indiana jones like adventure and wonderment, not for gritty realism
They have to do something because Drake is currently a jovial, wise cracking serial killer. With the right approach and production values of TLOU, the violence may at last have context. I'm looking forward to improved performances, better dialogue and more meaningful characters.
@Nekroo91 Interesting, do you have a source for this? I'd love to read more about it.
"WE learned a lot from The Last of Us that Naughty Dog can create more mature themes, so Uncharted might have a much more compelling story than the previous entries because of that. At least that's my hope." Fixed :D
I prefer darker over lighter so its fine in my book
I don't mind if the story is a little darker, but I would like Uncharted to keep some of it's light heartedness. TLOU was amazing, but it's best to keep the two different games as different as possible so they don't end up blending into the same game. The overall mechanics of the games are similar, so the best way to keep them apart is the overall feel of the story.
Course I bloody don't :P Last of Us is DARK and GRITTY Uncharted is WARM and LIGHT HEARTED Why make one franchise have the same themes as the other. It doesn't make sense, it gives both franchises something which sets them apart. As I've said Neil wanted to kill Elena off in Uncharted 2, says it all really. I knew this would happen when Amy left. <sigh> Guessing the online won't go back to what Uncharted 2 was like either.
But....what happens when you take some of that DARK and GRITTY, and sprinkle it into the WARM and LIGHT HEARTED? Who says it has to be the same as TLOU? Maybe it's MOSTLY the same as past UC games...but with a *little* TLOU. A recipe for success me thinks. *Takes cover from Foxtrots outrage*
I don't think Uncharted 4 will be anywhere near as dark as The Last of Us, but I mean, you kinda saw that evolution begin with Uncharted 3 wit how the main villain played out. She was much more devious than Zoran in my opinion. Not by her actions necessarily, but just her character. It'll be interesting to see what ND does if they do go darker, but I don't think they're going to change Drake's character too much. Edit: Lukas, you need to shut the blast doors.
If only the online would go back to being like U2's.
Amy Hennig couldn't create an original story-line even if Neil Druckmann offered her cunnilingus for it. Uncharted has always had great writing for characters but a lackluster and cliched plot. I'm glad they are choosing to go darker. Uncharted needs it otherwise it is going to have the been there done that feel. Hopefully there are some fresh gameplay mechanics too.
I swear to god, if they kill Sully... Just... just, no.
It's probably not going to be dark at all. Maybe a scene or two with Drake seeing something dark, or the villain being a little more serious, but they aren't going to get rid of what makes Uncharted what it is. And I hope the MP is more like Uncharted 2 than Uncharted 3.
@Lukas_Japonicus "But...what happens when you take some of that DARK and GRITTY, and sprinkle it into the WARM and LIGHT HEARTED?" Then you might end up getting something which most likely doesn't resemble the franchise at all and at the end of the day ends up standing out from the rest...but not in the good way. I love Uncharted...and I mean LOVE Uncharted. I just don't want them to change something which doesn't need to be changed. If true it makes me think there's more to why Amy left then what we've heard. Uncharted 3 had some dark themes to it and in my opinion it didn't really sit right with me. It felt unneeded and stood out like sore thumb. @-Alpha "but they aren't going to get rid of what makes Uncharted what it is." Well that's the thing, we don't know what they are thinking if true. Uncharted is Uncharted because of that warm, light hearted vibe while searching for treasure, defeating the bad guys, possibly saving the world...like the Indiana Jones films or the Mummy. Take that away or reduce it and it won't feel the same anymore. We don't want it to loose it's charm.
@Foxtrot "Then you might end up getting something which most likely doesn't resemble the franchise at all and at the end of the day ends up standing out from the rest...but not in the good way. " Maybe, yeah....but they gotta take risks man, try new things. The last thing you want to happen is have a great franchise like UC start going stale due to lack of change or experimentation. But like you said, it could go the opposite way and have a negative effect. But seriously, this is ND we're talking about here. I don't think they would do anything to jeopardize UC.
Calling it now, Sully is going to die.
You do know that Amy helped write U4, right? You make it seem like they just abruptly chose to go in a slightly different direction all because she left. Not the case at all.
"You do know that Amy helped write U4, right?" Yeah but you do realise after she left they could of changed anything they liked....probably things she didn't want changed.
But Amy had already finshed the story for Uncharted soooo it's her doing, Foxtrot. Don't act like Neil had total contol over this project...
This reminds me when Prince of Persia decided to go dark back in the day, and that didn't work out to well for them. Uncharted shouldn't be dark for the sake of being dark- I play Uncharted for Drake not a Nolan Batman wannabe. And If I have to go through more of those horrendous hand to hand fights and horribly over scripted action events like I did in Uncharted 3, I'm probably going to hold off on it.
@SoapShoes Course they can change the story if she isn't their anymore they can change the story Todd Stashwick was going to be a character in the story, he left which means they iether recast him or they changed the character Changes can be made as she's not creative director anymore. It's different if the motion capturing had been done
Look at my user name and you will realize how much of a fan I am of this series that said. Last 3 uncharted games have been pretty similar with my personal opinion being the last one was the weakest imo. I think its a time for a little change in this series. Lets be honest the more darker theme wont be on the same level as The Last of Us. Don't you always complain about franchises not involving enough and now when they are trying something in the uncharted universe you are being negative. I agree online should be like uncharted 2 thats what I fell in love with. I would say lets watch something from the game and then we can judge it.
@-Foxtrot I feel what you're saying for sure. We have an expectation of an Uncharted game - just that feel that you will get while you are taking it in. If you swing the tone too much, you lose that previous balance point and it becomes something else entirely. While it may be better or worse, it's not the same experience. However, Lukas has some good points. If, instead of a shift in feeling, it's a sprinkling of elements of a different tone, everything can work well. Since the two franchises get compared often, take the Indiana Jones movies. Raiders, Temple, and Crusade were all very different movies, but they all had a certain feel that made them part of a cohesive lineage. Raiders had old school adventure, Temple was the slightly darker (sprinkled) one, and Crusade was the one with heart and family and giving closure. Each had different elements, but at all times, you FELT like you were watching an Indiana Jones movie. More importantly, it was hard to imagine the story being told with any other characters or in a different universe. Then there was Crystal Skull. That's what happens when you lose focus and the feeling of a series. It didn't feel like an Indy movie - I could have placed different people in the roles and it wouldn't have made a difference. Sometimes it's okay to not go past part 3 :/ I'm hoping Uncharted does right by the series and that it makes you, me, and all of its fans (both old and new alike) happy.
You can still have warm and light hearted with a dark theme. It's all in the dialogue imo.
@uncharted56 "Don't you always complain about franchises not involving enough and now when they are trying something in the uncharted universe you are being negative" Dunno why your getting agreed on because in fact it's usually this what I complain about. How a franchise changes it's tone which results in the game (good or bad) not feeling like part of the franchise which made it great Tomb Raider - More about shooting then solving puzzles Max Payne 3 - Over the top action, no noire, gritty MP themes Resident Evil 5/6 - No horror, too much action Final Fantasy 13 - Anything but a FF game Dead Space 3 - Again no horror, too much action Assassins Creed 4 - Pirates in a ASSASSINS Creed game, huh etc (By the way remember I said games good OR bad when reading that list. Not saying those games weren't good, some were, just didn't feel like part of the franchise)
foxtrot right with you. After Amy left they have rewritten the main villain already which the actor has stated. It is no longer Amy's story.
this new naughty dog doesnt even have the smell of the old crash and jak naughty dog . they became more focused on those realistic themes which i dont like in all honesty . i tried uncharted even though i didnt like as much as some of you guys but at least i tried it . i didnt touch the last of us simply it wasnt magical it was more of a movie like experience yes a great game and cinematic for sure but in my case i dont like to watch movies and i dont like games that try to look like movies . i just wish that Sony has something up their sleeves other than uncharted . media molecule is a great example of creativity for me they are the best Sony studio those guys define the Fun creative magical game . in end there must be something for everybody and thats the theme for playstation .