Some more details regarding upcoming external HDD features for Xbox One. Nelson talks about whether external HDD will only be used for storage purpose or for playing games as well, power source, format and lot more.
Nice, it seems like they are doing it right. You'll have to format the drive to be dedicated to XB1, but other than that, it's just a portable extension of your XB1 hard drive, you don't even need a power source for it. Also either way 16tb or no limit, that's a ton.
Yeah external HDD support is a Godsend, especially not that the installation files for games are huge. A very welcome move and nice that we aren't being asked to purchase first party proprietary hard drives as was feared initially.
I would still expect at some point to see a Xbox branded external drive though.
Nelson replied: "You install to the external drive and then play games from it. Pull it out, head to your friends house. Plug it in, sign in to Xbox Live...BAM...all your games on the HDD are ready to be played off the HDD." Yeah its "limited" to 16TB which is already overkill, because #1 you got to buy basicly every damm game available for years to fill it up and #2 most folks aren't going to be buying USB 3.0 16TB HDD that cost $1,500. http://www.amazon.com/LaCie... -I'll probably get this 4TB USB 3.0 that costs a very reasonable $150 and that should easily last me the next 5 yrs at least, hell 5 yrs from now IF I need to I'll upgrade to a 8TB, which should be dirt cheap by then. http://www.amazon.com/Seaga... -I really appreciate this decision by micro, this and making a huge creative game like Project Spark free standout as some of the best consumer friendly decisions they've made this gen.
No one should complain about the limit, 16tb is a crazy amount of data. Nice to see some good changes
I agree I can't EVER see myself using anything close to that
Does anyone know if i can plug in my existing external HDD and watch movies/tv shows that are on it, on my X1? I used to do that on my 360, would be nice to be able to do the same on my X1.
@Lukas Probably not, since it seems like your Xbox One will format the drive when you first connect it.
What video formats does the Bone support?
the 360 doesnt work like that anymore does it? cuz when i plugged in my ex hdd, the system wanted to format the drive. im hoping this x1 feaure will work the same way as the ps3. just plug and play. but if its gonna format the drive, than that sucks. lets see if ps4 can do it better. if ps4 cant do this by the end of this year, i think x1 have a good chance to catch up. cuz my heart is moving toward the x1 over ps4.
This is an awesome feature that I will definitely be taking advantage of when I buy my Xbox One :D Even if there is a 16TB max limit, I don't think anyone would need anything bigger than perhaps 4TB, at least that's what I'll be using. Also, it's awesome that the Xbox One can also power the external drive without needing to plug the drive into an outlet.
I am buying the X1 as a secondary console because of the update to Games for Gold and this epic feature! :D This is something I want for the PS4 for sure!
I agree that its a really good feature that sony need to implement, would really help with the whole running out of space on the main drive.
You have the option to replace your hard drive on the ps4 to whatever size you want so you dont " run out of space on the main drive". I currently have a 2tb drive installed on mine, i am glad MS atleast offered us this option but i would have much preferred the ability to swap out the hard drive of my xbox one it just makes it another wire i have to run out of my one making it look really untidy.
Only problem I see is indeed having an cable and extra hard-drive attached to the x1. Agree that the ps4 also needs this feature swapping hard drives is nice feature. Though if you already downloaded some games to original hdd and decide on new hdd, without external hdd support you will need to re-download those games to the new hard-drive.
I know you can swap out the harddrive but you have to format the drive if you take it out and put it back in so that means redownloading everything, at least with the ability to add externally you can cut down on the hassle, I do see your point though.
@ retro and char i never thought about it that way, thanks for the reply
No problem :-) to be honest I should have got a bigger drive day one but I just wasnt thinking about it, still have plenty of space left on my drive so will cross that bridge when I have to lol
If youre implying that the ps4 is your primaery console, why would you want an xb1 because of games with gold? Isnt it pretty much the ssme thing as ps+ now? NOT trying to talk shit about the Xbox one. Just trying to figure out why using an external HDD and having another PS+-like service makes you want an xbone.
Maybe he's interested in what is on game with gold or whats coming out for x1. I have ps+ and xbox live on both my consoles so I dont miss anything. The joy of having multiple consoles
@master_raiden ps + and games for gold are hardly the same.... Games with gold dust - 2012 saints row 3 - 2011 ------------- ps + Puppateer - 2013 payday 2 - 2013 marumusa rebirth - 2013 everybodys golf - 2012 stick it to the man - 2013/14
@vega275 "I have ps+ and xbox live on both my consoles so I dont miss anything. The joy of having multiple consoles " Amen! I am with you, getting Mario Kart 8 in a week on Wii U, just got Wolfenstein on XB1 yesterday and decided to get Watch Dog for my PS4 at Best Buy next week due to them having marked down a year of PSN+ to $25 when I buy them together. Happy gaming.
@djplonker You are not taking into account several things around XBL as well... It is not only about free games... XBL also has XBox rewards which gives you Live rewards for purchases of games and playing games. The rewards are converted to money into your account on a monthly basis. http://rewards.xbox.com/ Also, I followed XBL and PSN+ sales (valentines, Halloween, end of year, seasonal, publisher, etc.) for a year. I found that XBL Gold had a total of $770 more savings on content prices than PS+. So, when you look at value, it is not only about freebies. It is also about cost savings when you buy content, and financial rewards when you play games.
I intended to buy the X1 for their exclusive games anyway. Most of the games probably be the same but I usually play PS4 at my home and have the X1 as replacement to play exclusive games and whenever my girlfriend is playing on my PS4 :D Also GfG will also have their own exclusive games. I might be a PS gamer but I don't look away when a competitor is doing something right :) And 3 bucks a month for 2 X360 games to keep and 2 X1 games for rent is something awesome. They might have copied PS+ but copying good things is a good thing! :D
@Luffy Same here. I'm buying a XB1 this weekend. It will be my secondary console. My PS4 will always be my main platform. I think Sony should implement ex external HD support too. But you do know that you can just buy any laptop HDD and use it right ?
@PrinceofSaiyans Good idea Thanks man Sony should listen to this one!
welcome to the club, PrinceOfAllSaiyans. See you on titanfall, sometime :)
yes, I know. I'm doing it for the PS3 (the slim model is even built just great to swap the drive without screw :D) I don't have that many games for PS4 but it soon will be full. Switching HDs via USB 3.0 is just cooler for me. With X1 I can plug in any future 16TB external HD and just have one HDD instead of switching because 9.5mm drives won't get much bigger.
If you can only use the HDD with an xbox one once it has been formatted then no chance of playing ripped/downloaded music and movies off it, which is a shame.
Yea that really sucks. I guess there had to be some negative about it.
Yeah, but it was the same for the xbox 360, if you wanted to use the USB as a storage device, you also had to let the 360 format it.
True. Maybe you'll still be able to plug a separate HDD in with content already on it, in the future.
They said that for x360 and still I played my home videos and slideshow my pictures from camera
so the X1 is a media device now?
@nevin1 Well, its not JUST a games console,tbh..
You may be able to use a 2nd drive (you can use 2 at the same time) for ripped movies or music. Also it is possible that they will let you format just a portion of the 1st drive for xbox stuff and the rest for personal usage.
Possibly, hope so!
It will probably format to FATx so it wont be easily used in a PC etc, you could play ripped music of it if MS allow it but don't think they would allow home ripped movies. There could be an option to rip custom soundtracks through the XB1 like you could on the original Xbox in future. Being able to have all your games already on the HDD is great, so will they really play from the HDD without the the need for the game in the drive? If so this could be a potential hack exploit for piracy.
MS allowed ripped movies on the 360 so why not X1? Also there was a rumour of a VLC app coming.
We'll in the 360 you had to reformat drives that you wanted to use for game storage, but if you wanted to use it for media, it was plug and play. Hopefully, this will still be the case.
Its a nice feature. I still think 1TB is enough for games and once you get to that amount your dash is cluttered and you should be wiping games off anyway. Unlike STEAM where theres a great way of organization. If they could maybe sort that out next then it really would be perfect..
I see what you're saying, but I typically just "pin" what I play the most and what I use the most to my main screen and will swap depending on what I want. Also, if you remember your library, "Xbox go to (whatever game)" and it will take you there.
Im already ordering 2 5fb hard drives from Amazon. That should hold me for the entire gen. Can't wait for this update. Im ready
How much did those cost???!
About 250$ each. My brother also bought one when I told him about the update next month. He was more excited than I was to hear about it.
my cost 170.00 for a 4tb
You guys have a bit too much spare change in your hands lol.
you're not going to be able to store anything with 5 femtobyte drives ;) (a femtobyte is a quadrillionth of a byte, since you misspelt Tb with fb)
Sorry I was typing on my phone and it does spell check. I hate when it happens
Wait, 1 bit is only a 1 or a 0, so how do you get something smaller than that???
@LogicStomper lol I forgot that fact, a byte/bit is one of the few things that has a limit to how small it can be
"You install to the external drive and then play games from it. ... all your games on the HDD are ready to be played off the HDD." This does not sound right... Read/write times of external HDD are far slower than internal HDDs, this will effect RAM massively... Loading, getting textures, everything would be majorly effected. Edit: And no theoretical speeds do not count, real world situations are what matters. And what happens if someone uses USB2?
Usb2 doesn't work.
USB2 is not support. It has to be USB3 and at least 256mb as a minimum requirement. secondly, The internal drive is 5400 RPM so that's about 80MB/s on average. USB 3 is much faster than that but the speed will depend on the speed and type of drive in your external enclosure. In short, it'll be at least as fast as the internal drive and could be faster.
Huh, I thought most harddrives were running at around 100MB/s while USB3 was only around 70MB/s, guess I just have a crap USB3 harddrive. At least I'll finally be able to backup massive games.
Yes a 7200rpm USB 3.0 hard drive will be faster or about equal to the internal Xbone hard drive, it def wont be too slow. I have to give MS respect for this and the Kinectless XB1, still the price is not low enough and not enough exclusives for me get one yet when I already have a PS4 and good PC.
I already happen to have a 1.5 TB USB3 external drive if I ever run out of the 500 gigs. Go me.
This is nice, well done Microsoft.
i got a 4tb and just waiting on the update i am so happy right now i have 20 games this will help me a lots thank you ms
Yes 1.5 tb. Finally get to use it. Soooo many hd lying around. Good news Microsoft, keep it coming.
Im sure you can take the hard drive to a friends house and play your games there on their Xones
Sux on you Sony PS4.... u are now trailing
Did Sony even say if they're also adding drive support?
Well, to be fair, Sony have offered easily upgradable drives for two gens now. The portability and convenience of an external drive is really nice, and I hope Sony adds that support - but I'd hardly say Sony is trailing now! I'm sure some people will prefer that the Sony drive is hidden away rather than another external thing. If Sony end up offering external drive support that'll be great. If not, oh well, I'll be upgrading my PS4 drive at some point.
As a owner All these updates and hdd talk is given me a XBoneR
That's a really cool feature,I wasn't expecting to install games to it. But it doesn't look like it's going to get video playback from an external drive if it's formatted to only work on Xbone. That's the main reason I would want external HDD on ps4.
Just a note for clarification before everyone rushes out to buy massive drives... Although it states no power supply needed.. If you have a 3.5" external drive you will still need to use the power adapter that came with it. MS went with USB 3.0 spec for the ports, so they cannot deliver enough juice for a 3.5" drive. (USB 3.0 is upto 0.9W at 5v for a total of 4.5W during data transfer) Maybe you could go for a USB Y splitter and connect the drive to two USB ports - but I'd probably not go this route. If you have a 2.5" external, no external power supply will be required. Note: USB 3.1 WOULD be able to power a 3.5" drive
This is big news for XB1 owners. I hope Sony follows suit.