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Do You Care About HD Remasters/Definitive Editions of Games?

I asked the Benign with B-TEN Facebook group what their thoughts were on games from previous generations that our upscaled and ported to more recent consoles. Here's what the group had to say.

mochachino3617d ago

For the few quality games I missed last gen and games I haven't played in a while I'd definitely love a remastering.

In fact, I probably wouldn't mind it for any good game, the only issue would be price. For most, $60 would be too much. I'm fine with $30.

Jughead34163617d ago

Yea, I'm cool with it. I was actually hoping they would have remastered god of war 2 for ps3 years ago. I'm a graphics whore. Id pay full price if I never played the game before. Should be discounted otherwise.

UltimateMaster3617d ago

If they are to resell a remastered version. Then justify the price tag.
I don't just want a resolution/frame rate upgrade and better AA.
I want additional stuff to add more to the experience. New physics like Tomb Raider DE.
On top of that, I want..
New modes, new sidequest, new story.
Just add more stuff

alexkoepp3617d ago

I'd rather just see new content until these systems get a good library, then do all the remakes you want

miyamoto3617d ago

I have love my remasters on my PS3 hard drive!

ICO
Shadow of the Colossus
Sonic Adventure
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil The Darkside Chronicles

mikeslemonade3617d ago

For me personally the remastered of Tomb Raider and Metro are necessary. Those two games were to ugly and clunky from the last gen.

user56695103617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

Tomb raider didn't feature new physics. It just wasnt on last gen consoles. Metro will be a port from the PC version like tomb raider. That's why its not much of a big change in tlou ps4 port. The PC version of these always had high quality assets. That why they are still some of the best looking games.

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MrSwankSinatra3617d ago

If fallout 3/new vegas came out remastered for PS4 i'd be on that like a pack of hyenas. Hell a lot of RPG's i would love to see remastered on PS4.

parentoftheyear3617d ago

An article about remastered games pops up once a week.

I will sum it up.
People that already bought it: no. I will pay 30 dollars.
People that haven't. Yes it will be worth every penny.

theDivision3617d ago

Agreed. I didn't get to play TLOU so I would probably pay $60 for the ps4 version, where as if they made a next gen red dead redemption remastered I would probably only pay $30 max.

T23617d ago

I think these games will fall quickly in price, but maybe not. I'll wait till they are 30 ish

showtimefolks3617d ago

yes and here are some i want or some that have been confirmed/rumored:

The last of us
mass effect trilogy
castlevania lords of shadow collection
God of war 3 on PS4
halo
gears
metro
GTA5
Yakuza collection volume 1-2
Crash HD
metro
SKYRIM

thing is i want to play many of these because they will look and run better on next gen consoles

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Robochobo3617d ago

If it's worth it, yes. I bought the Scholarship Edition of Bully a few months ago because I didn't feel like buying a PS2 and copy of the original just to play it. It also helps that the Scholarship Edition comes with extra missions and classes too.

SonyStyled3617d ago

you have a good taste in games my friend. i had only played the original on ps2 and it is one of my favorite of all time

randomass1713617d ago

I like collections more than individual remasters to be honest. But I do like playing remasters of games I like, especially if I can get them cheap.

Concertoine3617d ago

I really don't like knowing that the $60 copy of a game i bought last year along with it's 15 dollars of DLC will be rendered obsolete by the $60 copy of it this year. It makes me feel kind of cheated. If it's like TLOZ: Windwaker HD where it comes after a decent bit of progression with graphics with new features and improvements over the original game, AND comes at a cheaper price? I'll bite.
HD collections (that dont suck like SH's did) for like 30-40 bucks are also okay.

GamingSinceThe80s3617d ago

No way I could feel cheated by TLOU it could been $100 and still a bargain. I Can't say the for most games though.This was the best modern game I ever played because of the story and atmosphere..So I will be getting this day one for sure.

Concertoine3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

@Gaming
Good for you, i respect that opinion. Me though? I kind of liked when exclusive games went down with the ship, or in other words those games stayed with that system and forever remained associated with it. Like Shadow of the Colossus went from the PS2's absolute epitome of technical savvy and scale, to the crappy version of the up-res remake on PS3. Nowadays it's like exclusives are being robbed from their graves. What's happening with TLOU is the same thing, except it's happening only a year AFTER i payed full price for it.

TFJWM3617d ago

I understand that is your opinion but I don't get it. You enjoyed the game when you bought it right? Thought it was worth the 60 or 75 with DLC or why would you have bought it. You are paying to play it when it comes out, If you wait 6 months you can get almost any game for 1/2 off do you feel cheated because the price goes down? Also the original does not become obsolete you can still play it, its just not the best edition of it.

Concertoine3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

Buying it on launch vs. 6 months later is a different bag entirely. I don't feel cheated as a customer when a price goes down because i made the gamble of buying a product when its price will be at its height. If the price is slashed a month later? Sucks for me. But buying Metro, Tomb Raider, and TLOU last gen, and all of the dlc and stuff... if i had known this new trend of upgrading year old games with some better effects and framerates was going to be a thing, you bet your ass i would've waited to experience those games in their prime form, and not spent 60 bucks on the lesser version and even more on the dlc included free in re-releases.

Also, as a collector, the value in my ps3 copy of TLOU is completely gone. 10 years from now, ps3 copies of TLOU will sell for peanuts while the superior in every way PS4 up-res will be the one people want.

Hope that gives you some insight.

TFJWM3617d ago

Ahh ok I didn't know you buy games to sell them later once their value goes up. I still have every game I ever bought(I don't even want to think about what my sega saturn collection would sell for). I do totally get your point and I am quite torn about TLoU remake, It was well worth the value and I only beat it the one time but ya paying another 60, Im just not happy about that but I don't feel cheated. Think about TLoU thou such an amazing story and ending if you had waited for the PS4 remake and saw some info of the ending would it have been worth it?

Concertoine3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

@TFJ
No, no, i dont sell my games either, in fact i collect them too. Im just saying the value in inferior versions of a game are generally worthless as collectors items years from now. Now to own the optimal version of the game (important to me as a collector) i already spent a bunch of money on, i have to spend more money. 60 bucks is not a big deal, i just find it a little sad that a game so associated with the ps3 is no longer exclusive to it.
Like the other day i was in a game store and i saw Max Paybe for 3 bucks on ps2 so i thought it was a sweet deal. Then i realized it was that cheap because the framerate and loading times were horrible, and the xbox version went for a good 15 bucks in the same store.
And nah, i have my ways of avoiding spoilers ;) only thing that got spoiled to me was the thing in the dlc... but i didnt really care about that spoiler.

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jay23617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

I personally don't want them, I own all 3 current ones and they're more expensive over here but like £10-15. And I'd buy any I was interested in anyway already on PS3.

AceBlazer133617d ago

If it's a game I played already, I skip it.
If I never played it, I get it.

Except if if the game was so amazing that I just have to get it again. For example, Kingdom Hearts, I played that game who knows how many times, even had it running on PC. I still got the HD remix for PS3 and I'm getting 2.5 HD. Frankly I'll buy it a 3rd time if they release it on PS4, some games are that amazing, worth your repeated support. Last of Us falls in here.

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PlayStation Plus Game Catalog lineup for May

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, Humanity, Watch Dogs: Legion, Dishonored 2, Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin, and more.

Today we’re happy to reveal the PlayStation Plus Game Catalog for May 2023. All games will be available on Tuesday May 16. Let’s dive in.

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closed_account341d ago

Holy crap, R&C Rift Apart is a huge score for those who haven't played it! It was so good.

just_looken341d ago

i agree though I don't have a ps5 but i will activate this when the prices get out of apple range.

outsider1624341d ago

Well lets hope its soon, because you never know when the game will leave psplus.

DivineHand125341d ago

I don't think it is fair to compare the PS5 to apple prices since an iphone hasn't been at $499 since the original iphone launched.

One thing I can say at your benefit though is that in gaming then longer you wait to buy, the better the deal, though if you wait too long your backlog will get out of control.

LordoftheCritics341d ago

Rift Apart is the best chill game I've played this gen.

System seller on PS Plus is a huge win.

roadkillers341d ago

I think you can redeem over your phone, no? When you get a PS5 you will have games.

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MasterChief3624341d ago

A huge score for those of us that didn't just buy it literally one day ago and it's on the way now :'(
But I guess it's good to own it, as well! And I don't think I want to get PlayStation Plus right now, so it's not a huge loss. But it is still a little saddening.

I got my PS5 today, actually! Been wanting to play Rift Apart for so long. And I played Astro's Playroom at a friend's house, and that was when I was like, "I NEED THIS." Such a fun little game with so many wonderful references to Playstation stuff!

Anyways.

potatoseal341d ago

You could just re-sell your copy that is coming in the mail. But it's up to you. Rift Apart is so damn good. It blew my mind how good it looks and plays.

Dirty_Lemons341d ago (Edited 341d ago )

I hope you love it, dude. Nothing beats a shiny new console, and the PS5 is 👌 May I recommend Returnal, challenging but not Soulsborne-level challenging, and extremely good making use of those new haptics you're going to be playing around with.

Tapani341d ago

Hey I'm a relatively new PS5 owner here, but how does this new PS Plus system work? So if I go in at the Premium level for a month, it would mean I can play Horizon 2 and Ratchet & Clank just like that, right?

closed_account341d ago

Yea, you don't even need to sub Premium if those are the 2 games you're after, they're included on PS Plus Extra.

Premium just adds the legacy library of PS1, PS2, PS3 titles that are on the service.

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potatoseal341d ago

Played and platinumed Ratchet And Clank: Rift Apart at launch. Loved it so much. 9/10

Am I going to download and play Bus Simulator 21? You bet :-D

potatoseal341d ago

Was just thinking I wish Bus Simulator was PSVR 2 compatible. Imagine looking over your shoulder at the passengers you pick up? Haha

*turns head around while driving*

"Shut the Fk up back there!!!! You want me to crash the bus?!?!?!?!!"

Davros69341d ago

haha, you sound like an Aussie

MrNinosan341d ago

Have to download it as well. Is it compatible with wheel?

potatoseal341d ago

Yeah apparently it's compatible with a fair few wheels. Game has been out a while.

just_looken341d ago

Yeah the vr experience on playstation continues to be crap compared to pc sadly.

Bus sim 21 vr on pc
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And do do that well its on pc duh crap $700 console should do vr on alot more than select titles

potatoseal341d ago

PS VR2 is actually really awesome man. I have one. It's only new, so maybe I will wait for Bus Simulator 21 to get a VR update then. Judging by that video, the game looks fun in VR

just_looken341d ago

I doubt it will look at psvr 1

Dandalandan117341d ago

Will definitely download Bus Simulator as well.
My son will surely have a blast with it.

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italiangamer341d ago

I think this news has reunited two long lost brothers, OtterX and potatoseal 🤣.

potatoseal341d ago (Edited 341d ago )

For 5 months we got 102 games

001. Back 4 Blood | PS4 002. Dragon Ball FighterZ | PS4
003. Devil May Cry 5 | PS4 004. Life is Strange: Before the Storm | PS4 005. Life is Strange | PS4 006. Jett: The Far Shore | PS4 007. Just Cause 4: Reloaded | PS4 008. Omno | PS4
009. Erica | PS4 010. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order | PS4 011. Fallout 76 | PS4 012. Axiom Verge 2 | PS4 013. Syphon Filter 3 | PS4 014. Star Wars Demolition | PS4 015. Hot Shots Golf 2 | PS4 016. Evil Dead: The Game | PS4 017. OlliOlliWorld | PS4 018. Destiny 2: Beyond Light | PS4 019. Mafia: The Definitive Edition | PS4 020. Horizon Forbidden West | PS4 021. The Quarry | PS4 022. Resident Evil 7 biohazard | PS4 023. Outriders | PS4 024. Scarlet Nexus | PS4 025. Borderlands 3 | PS4 026. Tekken 7 | PS4 027. Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown | PS4
028. Earth Defense Force 5 | PS4 029. Oninaki | PS4 030. Lost Sphear | PS4 031. I am Setsuna | PS4 032. The Forgotten City | PS4 033. The Legend of Dragoon | PS4 034. Wild Arms 2 | PS4 035. Harvest Moon: Back to Nature | PS4 036. Destroy All Humans! | PS4 037. Battlefield 2042 | PS4 038. Minecraft Dungeons | PS4 039. Code Vein | PS4 040. Uncharted 4 | PS5 Fixed 041. Uncharted Lost Legacy | PS5 Fixed 042. Tchia | PS4 043. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Extraction | PS4 044. Ghostwire Tokyo | PS5 045. Life Is Strange: True Colors | PS4 046. Immortals Fenyx Rising | PS4 047. Life is Strange 2 | PS4 048. Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot | PS4 049. Street Fighter V Champion Edition | PS4 050. Untitled Goose Game | PS4
051. Final Fantasy Type-0 HD | PS4 052. Rage 2 | PS4 053. Neo: The World Ends with You | PS4 054. Haven | PS4 055. Ridge Racer Type 4 | PS4 056. Ape Academy 2 | PS4 Fixed 057. Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror | PS4 058. Meet Your Maker | PS4
059. Sackboy: A Big Adventure | PS4 060. Tails of Iron | PS4 061. Anodyne | PS4 (Bonus Game) 062. Kena: Bridge of Spirits | PS4 063. Doom Eternal | PS4 064. Riders Republic | PS4 065. Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus | PS4 066. Slay the Spire | PS4 067. Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom | PS4 068. The Evil Within | PS4 069. Wolfenstein: The Old Blood | PS4 070. Bassmaster Fishing | PS4 071. Paradise Killer | PS4 072. Doom | PS4 073. Doom II | PS4
074. Doom 64 | PS4 075. Doom 3 | PS4 076. Dishonored: Definitive Edition | PS4 077. GRID Legends | PS4 078. Chivalry 2 | PS4 079. Descenders | PS4 080. Humanity | PS4 081. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart | PS5 082. Watch Dogs: Legion | PS4 083. Dishonored 2 | PS4 084. Dishonored: Death of the Outsider | PS4 085. Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin | PS4 086. Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition | PS4 087. Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration | PS4 088. Shadow of the Tomb Raider | PS4 089. Bus Simulator 21: Next Stop | PS4 090. The Evil Within 2 | PS4 091. Wolfenstein: Youngblood | PS4 092. Thymesia | PS5 093. Rain World | PS4 094 Lake | PS4 095. Conan Exiles | PS4 096. Rune Factory 4 Special | PS4 097. Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town* | PS4 098. Soundfall | PS4 099. Syphon Filter: Logan’s Shadow | PS4 100. Blade Dancer: Lineage of Light | PS4 101. Pursuit Force | PS4 102. Ghostbusters: The Video Game Remastered | PS4

January 15 Games | February 21 Games | March 21 Games | April 19 Games |
May 26 Games | June Unknown | July Unknown | August Unknown | September Unknown |
October Unknown | November Unknown | December Unknown |

meanmallard341d ago

PS Plus IS the best gaming subscription.

S2Killinit341d ago

It really is the best way to go.

crazyCoconuts341d ago

For a lot cheaper than the other guys even

PhillyDonJawn341d ago

102 games aww that's cute 🤭

Petebloodyonion341d ago

Well technically the best deal remains by far EPIC games free offering since well it's free but aside that it's a hell of deal :)

andy85341d ago

Its funny, a few months ago this would have got so many down votes but it probably is now, the Extra/Deluxe service is flourishing. Even a day one game this month is added

andy85341d ago

@phillyDonJawn that's games added, not total. PS sub has more games on it than Gamepass but keep reaching 😂

potatoseal341d ago

@ PhillyDon, lol there are something like 534 games on PS Plus Extra right now. That is not including PS Plus Premium

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ModsDoBetter341d ago

Seriously didn’t even realise how good the PS offering was.

I’m on the highest tier but the only things I gravitate toward are the two monthly games.

It was only recently that I found how to properly browse the PS+ section on the dashboard and there’s a ridiculous amount of high quality content on there.

I own a good amount of them either physical or digital but still a great selection.

Crows90341d ago (Edited 341d ago )

Yup. Ps extra is cheaper than gamepass ultimate as well...until those quality Xbox 1st party start actually kicking in ps+ is the most affordable and highest quality service.

I'll be trying out legion and humanity for sure.

MasterChief3624341d ago

So how does it work? Are these all available now? Or is it a rotation system? I literally only got my PS5 today and am a bit of a newb of this console generation.

potatoseal341d ago (Edited 341d ago )

These are all available right now I'm pretty sure. But I will post the actual lists of games. You will know in advance if anything was to be taken off this list too. A good time in advance.

PS Plus Essential (lowest price) - is the normal PS Plus and you get games every month. Here are the games for this month...
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

PS Plus Extra (mid price) - Is same as essential, BUT has all these extra games from this list, except for the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP games, (there aren't that many). More releasing every month. Here is all the games from PS Plus Extra
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

PS Plus Premium - same as essential and extra. But has all the PS1 and PS2 and PS3 and PSP games. More games releasing every month. Here is the list of games from this one...
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Glad you got a PS5. It's a good investment. So much to play and so much to come. Have fun man

Ps5conehead341d ago

These are available may 16th

meanmallard341d ago

Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin Is fantastic, I can't recommend it highly enough.

Even though you have never heard of it it went on to sell well over a million copies.

meanmallard341d ago

If even one person reads this and plays it and has half as much fun as I did I'll be super happy.

jznrpg341d ago

I own a physical copy good game

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The Last of Us Part 1 – Why The Ending is Still so Impactful

The Last of Us never dreams of insulting its audience’s intelligence. And the best example of this is, of course, is its ending.

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shinoff2183486d ago

Shit the beginning was to. I'm not sure how I would feel if I didn't have kids but having them it broke my heart to see.

ClayRules2012486d ago

Yes. The beginning and ending…how they break you, make you think , question things etc. so impactful.

And yeah, I have a son (he’ll be going to college here next year) and just feeling Joel’s pain, heartbreak, loss…it hits you differently when you have a kid (s) of your own.

PhillyDillyDee486d ago

I didnt have kids when i played it and the beginning had me sobbing. That story left an impact on me

Orchard486d ago

The story was a rollercoaster from start to finish. Probably my 1st or 2nd most favorite game on PS3 (the other being MGS4).

Aloymetal486d ago

I agree with you. MGS4 was truly special, I wasn't the biggest fan of the long cutscenes but I understand is part of Kojima. Great game nonetheless.

Snookies12486d ago

Best Metal Gear game, coming from a HUGE fan of the series. I bought a PS3 JUST for MGS4. And got the collector's edition too. Worth every bit of money.

Yes, the cutscenes can be very lengthy. But a lot of it was quite necessary to really tie things together. Previous games had some longer cutscenes as well. It's just that they were trying to wrap everything up with MGS4. So, it's understandable that they'd have to throw some info dumps into the game here and there.

Orchard486d ago

The cutscenes are long indeed, every Kojima game sets a new record there :P

But the game was awesome, the second they showed that first E3 demo, it was clear it was going to be something special.

I still remember being mind blown by the Octocamo. It was also the first third person shooter game where I felt like the controls and aiming etc all went smooth / fluid and weren't janky. Hard to explain in words, but it felt 'natural' to aim, move etc in it.

gangsta_red486d ago

I thought the game went on a little too long and it started to wear thin. It should have stopped at Winter. That would have been a great way to end that game with the sequel continuing from there (if necessary).

-Foxtrot486d ago

I loved it however the ambiguous ending was kind of ruined in the sequel

The first game had this conflicting grey area of Joel's actions, a decision to let you think it over and discuss it with people, however the sequel created a narrative that "OMG JOEL 100% DOOMED HUMANITY...HOW SELFISH" and making out Ellie wanted to die in the hospital even though 1) She didn't know she was going to die and 2) She was ready to see Joel once she got out of surgery so he could teach her how to play Guitar.

For me he did the right thing, I mean they pretty much attacked him when he was trying to save Ellie, they lied to him and said they were going to kill her without thinking any other decision out or asking Ellie herself and they pretty much were going to throw him out onto the street without any of his weapons/gear where he could have probably died. There was no guarantee a cure could be made with these guys, it was all "chance".

Crows90486d ago

Exactly. He made the first good decision and this time around the girl he took care of didn't die while escaping...which alluded to the beginning of the game. He was prepared this time.

-Foxtrot486d ago

Like I just don't know why the Fireflies (and now Jerry in Part II) didn't think about any other tests, it was literally "Yeah this bitch has gotta die". You're telling me they couldn't wait for more blood tests, think of new ways to approach it? The worlds been gone for decades, it's not going to collapse even more by waiting, the damage is done.

If they woke Ellie up and asked her but Joel also told her what they did and were going to do to him I don't think she'd really want to sacrifice her life for these guys compared how she suddenly reacts in the sequel.

Even the hospital setting in the original game was run down, dirty and literally the best they could do, that alone didn't inspire confidence they had the tools to distribute a cure let along make one. I know the sequel and remake kind of retcon it where it looked cleaner, brighter and newer but again I'm going off the original, the first time I played it. The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind, I don't think they would have been fair handing out the cure if they did get it made

TricksterArrow486d ago (Edited 486d ago )

It's a work of fiction, and more than once Bruce and Neil stated that the cure was a given, it was a sure thing and they regret not making it more clearly. If the cure wasn't a thing, the ending wouldn't ne nearly as impactful as is.

Crows90486d ago

@trickster
Except tlou2 states that it isnt a given. The ending is still impactful.

Inverno486d ago

Think the reason why she was going to die was because the guy was a vet, not a doctor

-Foxtrot486d ago

Yet suddenly was the only person who could create a cure

"We deffo need to kill her"

"Wait...WHY"

"Trust me....I'm a vet"

TricksterArrow485d ago (Edited 485d ago )

Jerry was a doctor. A lead doctor. His bio makes it clear that he attended Northern Utah Medical University. He just happened to like animals. I wonder if people really pay attention to the games they play anymore (if they played, it’s a toss with TLOU2’s critics)…

Imalwaysright485d ago

TricksterArrow

You should play the PS3 version. Once you do, you'll realize that the ending was retconned because Jerry wasn't the surgeon that was going to kill Ellie.

TricksterArrow485d ago

I played all versions. He was not a vet in any of them.

Imalwaysright485d ago

He was not in the original version of the game but the "Jerry" that Joel killed in the original clearly wasn't someone that acted professionaly or inspired confidence because he was willing to work in a dirty operating room and was wearing boots.

TricksterArrow485d ago (Edited 485d ago )

Jerry was a minor unnamed role that got expanded on the sequel and also got recast, not unlike any TV series and games before this one (such as Resident Evil, in which Claire, Leon, Carlos and Chris all look considerably different from one iteration to the other). Also, still not a vet. And also unsure what argument you are trying to make by “dirty room” and “wearing boots”. He is still a doctor that has the ability to develop a cure, it doesn’t matter what he is wearing or what tools are at his disposal, the story is what it is.

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ChubbyBlade486d ago

That’s why I didn’t like part 2. It removed all the nuance

Inverno486d ago

I think when you realize he's a vet, Joel's decision feels a bit more justified for those who played both games. Just playing, since you're in Joel's shoes, you don't really question it. Then playing the second there's a justification that doesn't take away from Joel's decision but for the player should reinforce your understanding of it.

You said it in the second comment. "The Fireflies at the end of the day were not good people, they were still terrorists with their own ambitious goals in mind." That's why they just went along with killing her cause they didn't want to figure out some other way.

shinoff2183485d ago

Foxtrot

I think they just tried to show you how Joel's decision affected more then just Joel and ellie . Just showing different angles and a bigger picture. I think Joel did the right thing.

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dmonee486d ago

The story had me emotionally engaged. Gaming for 40 years it was the first time a game story messed with my emotions in the way movies do. As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok. It was the storyline that kept me going in TLOU 1 and TLOU 2.

ClayRules2012486d ago

“As far as the game and gameplay? Not so much lol. It wasn’t bad in my opinion but the game itself was ok.“

What exactly did the game do that qualifies it for just being ok? And same question for the gameplay?

dmonee486d ago

That’s a tough question because I could ramble on and on as to why. I’m speaking for myself because I usually pass on survival horror type games. So instead of getting into a debate as to why I found the gameplay to be ok. I originally commented on how the narrative had me emotionally sucked in. Especially the opening segment. So much that I purchased a game I would never have purchased if not for the story. It’s more kudos to the developer for getting people like me out of my comfort zone to play a game I wouldn’t usually play.

ClayRules2012486d ago

I know some people were upset with Joel lying to Ellie (friends of mine) that they felt it should’ve given the player an option to have Joel either

A. Lie to Ellie or B. Tell Ellie the truth. Type of situation, which just makes no sense. The game nor its story doesn’t given the player any control to have/make any choices that change the direction or outcome of ANY of these characters in this unforgiving and dark world.

I don’t blame Joel for doing what he did.

1. Ellie became the “Something” that he needed to keep fighting for, beyond just living day to day, simply being survivors.

2. Marlene gave orders to that no -name guard to kill Joel if he tried anything…you just done pissed him off all the more with those words. I wonder, if Joel had been killed and Marlene ever came across Tommy again (Joel’s brother) would she have the guts to tell him “Listen Tommy, we need to talk! About Joel…I couldn’t waste this gift. Tommy “What the hell you talking about, Marlene??” Marlene “I had Joel killed, if he” Tommy “YOU SON OF A BITCH!” Got carried away there lol. You get the idea tho. To my point, it wasn’t guaranteed that Ellie was the cure, and after all Joel did, went through, not even allowing Joel to see Ellie, just talk with her, that’s messed up.

3. Of course looking at the actions Joel took in the hospital and how that has major consequences in Part 2 for him, Ellie etc. it’s not like there wouldn’t have been a big threat later on at some point. This world is wicked, dark, unforgiving and everyone’s growing up, has their own WANTS. NEEDS. DESIRES. Solely for themselves, loved ones, or group. All while trying to survive.

Joel I think knew when he said “I Swear” that he’d done something much worse than when he actually saved Ellie from that operating room and possibly causing death to humanity (as if it would be appreciated anyways.

Yes, he lied to the one person who gave him purpose to live, purpose to have hope, purpose to be that father again (which he of course wasn’t looking for, but it just naturally happened upon him) like he was to his daughter Sarah all those years ago. And to him, maybe in that moment, lying would be worth the little bit of time, the years they’d have together creating memories, seeing Ellie grow up before his eyes etc. rather than lie to her and see a reaction in words and deeds in which she might’ve ran off losing all hope and trust in him etc. I mean, she did lose trust in him all those years later etc. but as we saw, she was willing to work with him, try to repair what Joel broke, and he knew it wouldn’t be easy, as did she. But with time she understood I think why he did what he did.

It’s just sad in the end, his lie, the time they lost with his betrayal, and than horrific death, caused Ellie to go seek revenge in a way in which Ellie changed, she kept chipping off more of herself along the journey, scary and sad thing to see, and exhausting. But powerful storytelling throughout it all.

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