Major Nelson says the decision to unbundle Kinect from the Xbox One was all about consumer choice.
Well that was obvious. What people are really thinking about is the amount of support the Kinect will get now that it's not required with an Xbox One.
MS is just in a really bad situation overall... you know they had a but load of Kinect TV , voice, and game stuff to show.. so?? Will they still show it? Knowing no one will buy a Kinect now? How awkward will that be. . What about XBONE UI . It is completely built up and down for kinect. . Now buyers will have to work around a broken UI to navigate their console with no kinect. . This sounds really messy
Your too funny man, the controller works perfect dude. You dont need the Kinect whatsoever and UI is still smooth.
@ Dwalls1171 You should really get some hands-on experience with the Xbox One before you go on about the UI, saying it's "built up and down for Kinect". You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Regardless of the UI being built to work with kinect, it also works with traditional controls. using a dpad and buttons just replaces the verbal/motion commands. As to the support it will get... We will see games built with kinect as a secondary input and we will see games with kinect as a primary. Ms had to do this to try and save face. Now I (personally) would love to see them ditch the parity clause as well as 180 their position on user replaceable hdd.
@d walls “Ms is just in a really bad situation overall” How is that? They are not halting kinect production ,and there is still going to be a bundle with kinect for those who want it and you can always navigate the current ui with the controller.that said you should know that they are also working on a revamped ui for those who decide to skip kinect entirely.
Naga, maybe hes just been listening to what MS was telling us for the past year. I mean they lead us to believe Kinect was indispensable. Of cos, that was before they dispensed of it.
No darth. MS doesn't care about saving face. Do you really thiong they will dump 20 million into a kinect game to save face? No, just no. If they cared about saving face they wouldn't have cut kinect in the first place. This is about survival and for such companies saving face takes a back seat to staying alive.
This statement sounds like any MS statement : "No, switches can't be flipped", "There won't be any Kinectless Xbox One", "Those aren't the droids you're looking for.". Believe it, if you want to.
I had a question about the Xbox One and and its. The console, in the beginning, was designed to function with Kinect. They spent years of [email protected] and tons of cash to develop the console in such a way that it functions integrally with the camera. Everything from video chatting to the voice commands, login facial recognition is proof of that. With that said where were all the Kinect games? For a system that was designed to function with Kinect I found it strange that there were barely any Kinect games announced for it.
probably about the same amount of support that the PS eye gets
It wasn't getting any real support in the first place...
I am curious about people wanting it more with Kinect than without. titanfall bundle is at 38 on amazon bestsellers while x1 without Kinect is not on the top 100. not sure if that is a good thing at all ,while it is a preorder ,stuff preordered are on the top 100 ,heck preorders for ouya was on the top 100 for a couple on months before release(even titanfall bundle was) where only 3 weeks before launch on X1 without Kinect.
I wouldn't worry about it. The fact that it's not on the top 100, while the TF bundle is at 38 on their best sellers, just means that some people are in for quite a surprise. But like I said, I wouldn't worry about it. lol
I remember when Sony removed PS2 support off the PS3 system to save on cost and to put out a cheaper console. Same thing here, just this time doing so will make people happy knowing that someone will not look at them through the consoles Kinect. Its better to have a choice, because there are people that will not by the console fearing the goverment will be watch them.
You're comparing backwards compatibility to a intricate part of console like kinect? Kinect was suppose to be the future of gaming from alot of people on here. MS is always good about abandoning things anyways, we knew this was coming. Kind of sad to see MS always do things like this and the consumer always pays for it in the end.
I think loosing backwards compatibility was a much, much bigger deal. Kinect has not gone any where.
the video game developers don't have to support the kinect in order for it to be a success. it's never been touted as a video games device. it's just another way of tying in your entertainment experience. microsoft and app developers can make the kinect a success without the help of games developers. they will just add extra to whats already great.
I just read your post in Applejack's voice and not on because I wanted too.lol Just started watching MLPFIM a few week's ago.A buddy of mine stopped by when I had it on and I think I lost what little respect he still had for me.I told him the show has a large following of 30 something males who watch it, but I don't think he believed me.lol
Consumers will discontinue Kinect.
MS also said that Kinect would never be unbundled. Just saying
Yup http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Harvey Eagle "Xbox UK marketing chief Harvey Eagle said Microsoft was sticking with Kinect because the company feels it's "integral to the Xbox One experience" http://www.computerandvideo... Microsoft Spokesman "Thursday 25th Jul 2013" AKA - Last Summer "Yesterday, Inside Gaming Daily claimed the company would release an Xbox One sans the 3D camera next summer" Next Summer - 2014 (Present....like now...now) http://kotaku.com/microsoft... "We have no plans to introduce an Xbox One without Kinect," a spokesperson said this afternoon. "We believe in Kinect and the value it brings to both games and entertainment, and believe $499 is a great value for what consumers receive with their Xbox One." http://www.ign.com/articles... Super Secret Spy Phil Harrison "Absolutely no plans at all,” Harrison said when asked if there will be a Kinect-less Xbox One. “We think Kinect is an integral part of our platform. All of the magical experiences that you get, both as a games-player and also the way you navigate the system are made even more amazing because of Kinect." http://www.dualshockers.com... Major Nelson "We believe in Kinect and its ability to revolutionize the way people interact with their games and entertainment. Putting Kinect in every box allows all Xbox One users to experience its power. It also becomes a fundamental part of every system sold. When game developers, content creators and entertainment partners can count on Kinect as a part of every Xbox One, an entire world of new experiences becomes possible" I'm sure Phil Spencer has said the same thing in the past.
He did. Gj for assembling all of these, foxtrot. Have a bubble.
Yeah gg Fox, MS should be dizzy from all the 180's
What a way to be dishonest about a product.
What will Kinect sell for separate? $150 - 200. A price making the Xbone even more expensive? MS has made it nearly impossible for Spencer to fix this mess. Good luck buddy.
Sony say the PS3 was a computer and then removed linux. Just saying... Difference is that you can buy kinect later on this year.
How brain dead can you be kid? Why are steadily bringing up what sony does when you dont even own their systems? How about you spend more time focusing on the company that's completely full of shit and keeps reversing what was SUPPOSED to ironclad mechanics for their system at the drop of a hat. When will you sheeple wake up and see that they will say anything to get their foot in the door, but just as easily as they are changing things for the better, they can and will go right back to their original plans once they feel they have regained enough market share. The more you guys go on trying to defend your purchase the more idiotic you guys look and sound. I dont feel sorry for any MS fan that gets burned in the very near future.
Wow, did you really just say that? Just when you think people can't get any more stupider, XxExacutionerxX comes along
Tell me about it. XxExacutionerxX makes the most staunch MS fanboi blush with his. I've never seen such a cheerleader .
Microsoft lies lies lies
@XxExacutionerxX "Difference is that you can buy kinect later on this year." No. The difference is that otherOS (something less than 1% of the user base actually used) was removed because hackers were using it to bypass security access controls, while MS unbundled kinect in order to boost sales. With that being said, giving people the option to buy the xbone without kinect was the best possible move they could have made because choice is always better. I, among others, have been asking for this since before the console released.
"Major Nelson says the decision to unbundle Kinect from the Xbox One was all about increasing sales" Fixed
Pretty much its that simple.
Been saying it all the time angelic. But you still get the grubs who press disagree. Good to have choices.
@AussieBadger All of the sudden its good to have choices, roflmao.
Why are you giving them shit about it? You've been one of the main cry babies asking for it to be unbundled. You're a perfect example of the type of person who just wants to see MS in a negative light. That's what you'll always see...
See someone cant take the heat. SMH
What does that even mean in this context lol?
I did, I'm very thankful for it and hopefully in the future when the price comes down a bit more I can finally buy one to play on the games I have been missing. However them saying it's about choice when it's about sales, basically lying about it, is something I;m not going to agree on.
Don't worry Notra. There the ones with SMH because they can only afford one console. And your right the are a bunch of cry baby girl blouses. They should get a job pressing buttons because i'm sure they're good at going on to xbox and nintendo articles and pressing disagree.
Ok, Kinect people be joyful!
http://www.youtube.com/watc... Keep going MS lol
Kinect is awesome for the interface. For games I don't give a F.
I agree, except for Kinect Sports Rivals Tennis... So obsessed with that game right now. Not the whole game, just the tennis part haha. Also love the animation building for Project Spark, that is amazing.
That is true. I messed with the Project Spark stuff and it was cool. You kinda need Kinect to truly use Xbox Fitness too.
And for the interface you can just use any mic. In other words, you don't need Kinect at all.
I use it for XBOX FITNESS. P90X and Insanity workouts for me.
I need to give all that a shot. I have Fitness, the free trial, but have never really messed with it.
The only reason they needed to clarify this, is because the general public cannot bother or know how to read past headlines.
poor Microsoft, they back pedal so much that they dont even remember what its like to walk forward lol
Phil made this decision just a few months ago. He even said this. Also, why are people complaining when this is exactly what they wanted. Make up your mind, damn.
Exactly who wanted it? Was there a petition somewhere? Did Microsoft do a poll and come to that conclusion? No, the sales were not up to par. That's why they did this. Can't people just admit it. Also, I'm sure the new CEO is watching this carefully. He can't be too impressed.
Everyone was complaining that it was bundled and the fact they didn't have an option. Are you really pretending like that never happened, only on n4g lmao.
Go home Microsoft, you are drunk.
Such a intelligent comment lol
And yours is, roflmao.
Yeah, I was thinking to either A) Give a lengthy three paragraph comment expressing my distaste with Microsoft that no one will read or B) The cliche "you are drunk" comment. Say what you will about cliche comments...I think I chose the right option :)
I love my X1 no matter whether there is a Kinect or not. People just want to piss and moan piss and moan... Jesus Christ it's so old! Please just STFU for your own good.
Some people get feed up of taking in the rear from a company. You're the exact person is wanted in prison. Loves taking it in the rear and not saying a word.
U talkin sound like your the expert. I'm sure your good at being the bitch. Years supply of vaso to this man.
Well now that MS says they aren't discontinuing Kinect... It's the kiss of death! You can be sure they'll do a 180 and discontinue Kincect.
No sir... Not this time. Causal game players like Kinect. They are not hardcore or early adopter types. They will buy the system eventually when support for Xbox 360 stops. Use your pea sized brain. You no nothing of the industry do you? Anyway....
I know plenty about the industry, but obviously you can't recognize sarcasm...
Or when they stop supporting the 360, they might buy a ps4.
So people complained about the xbox one costing $500 with kinect, now they're complaining because it's cheaper and they removed it. Like WTF, make up your minds!
Honestly? They should donate kinect to the community hackers and discontinue xbone. Lulz
Gamers are a lot smarter than that. We know dam well it has nothing to do with consumer choice. I understand they need to do the whole positive PR spill, but when they keep on saying it's all about consumer choice, it makes me think they're actually trying to convince us and that we're stupid enough to believe them. Kind of insulting.
@ station to be realistic they did not cheapen the x1 they only removed the kinect the 100 dollars off of the 500 hundred dollar price tag so no its not cheaper its exactly the same price as the ps4 and always has been they just forced you to buy the 100 dollar kinect just saying
Its all about perception.
I think this is damage control. We all know peripherals do not usually sell. However, Sony's own camera has done well on the market, so maybe the Kinect will stick around. I personally enjoy saying "Xbox On" and using the video chat. However I hate the fact that the mic is always live and that the camera actually recognizes my face. And I say this being someone who does not buy into conspiracy.