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Eurogamer: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Review

Eurogamer writes,

"Metal Gear Solid has always been a love it or hate it proposition. Millions love it for its involved, conspiratorial plotting, its arch sense of humour, its demanding stealth gameplay, its sprawling cinematic ambition, its preposterous stylishness and pretensions toward artistic weight. Millions hate it for exactly the same reasons.

Then there are those - this reviewer included - for whom Metal Gear Solid is a love it and hate it proposition. Flawed, intractable, unspeakably tedious at times, and yet blessed with incredible production values, imaginative design, and a brilliant, brave willingness to think and do the unexpected and impossible. At times they're barely videogames at all, but they're capable of moments of pure videogame genius, joy and shock that few other series can match." (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3) 8/10

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Vojkan  +   2815d ago
WOW an 8? Give me a brake
LenHart  +   2815d ago
Thats totally UNACCEPTABLE
are these websites against PS3 now


cant believe the audacity of eurogamer to give MGS4 an 8/10


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@linux guru

Jenzo was not joking as we all know him. read his comment history
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LinuxGuru  +   2815d ago
Come on Len/nasim/20 other accounts, Jenzo was making a joke about how what's-his-name up there spelled "break"

You know....ceramic brakes.....regular brakes....nevermind.
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pimpstation  +   2815d ago
Someone send their server a virus so this garbage doesn't get online.

We shouldn't allow them to tarnish the reputation of gaming's ultimate achievement and the pinnacle of this medium.
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pimpstation  +   2815d ago
Eurogayes is the worst site on the internet. This reviewer makes it obvious he has no idea what he's talking about. Where did they find this monkey? This site gives Halo 3 a 10 and MGS4 an 8. That right there proves they cannot utter one true statement or fact on anything gaming related.

Actually, this must be a joke. They're just messing with us. It's the only explanation. Or maybe Microsoft is paying like they never have before.
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anh_duong  +   2815d ago
this post is going to to be the hottest post of the week bar none..

Read this eurogamer preview after the played the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS:

"And on this occasion, in a heroic effort to draw a line for once and all under Snake's story and give the Metal Gear Solid series the grand finale it deserves, Hideo Kojima and his team really have outdone themselves. 'Extravagant' doesn't cover it. Nor do 'dramatic', 'spectacular', 'sentimental', 'surprising', 'long-winded', 'final', 'painstaking' or 'polished'. Guns of the Patriots is Metal Gear Solid in excelsis." - eurogamer

makes you wonder why the reviewer bothered to preview the game.
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InMyOpinion  +   2815d ago
I just pulled your leg 5 mins ago in the IGN MGS4 Review open zone, saying GTA IV is better than MGS4. Something I don't think I'll agree with at all(haven't played MGS4 yet). The fanboy reaction was overwhelming lol!
The Wood  +   2815d ago
Chill out Lenhart
Jenzo's kool

old comments are just that, old comments
Presentist  +   2815d ago
I don't understand you guys, you haven't played the game, how could you possibly dispute this score?

I mean, I agree that this score sucks, but we'll have to wait until the game comes out to see if we think it deserves higher.
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Winter47th  +   2815d ago
From the review "We love you, Snake. Don't come back"
Who the **** is this fanboy retard and how did he make it to the review cast ?
OmegaKulu  +   2815d ago
Well, if you look at reviewer's history, he reviewed a bunch of MMOs and mario cart wii... i wont expect much out of him...
LJWooly  +   2815d ago
Don't worry people. I can guarantee you this is probably the lowest score the game's going to get (unless Gamespot outdoes them) and it's only going to affect the metascore by 0.2, I think.

Do we even really need reviews to tell us how good a game like Metal Gear Solid is? I think, personally, anyone with even remote experience of the series would do well to expect great, great things from this game. I can't wait.

Still, nothing's going to stop this becoming the hottest story on this website in a while. Flame-retardent exoskeleton GO!
CrazzyMan  +   2815d ago
"You're sorry to see Snake go. But should you be? Guns of the Patriots is a frustrating, fractured game that turns Metal Gear Solid's world upside down several times over, but never changes it. It just burrows deeper into what fans love and detractors hate than ever before, and it will make few converts. It's a crying shame, given how many genuinely classic gaming moments there are here, given the countless exquisite creative touches, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is its own worst enemy. You could not ask for a funnier, cleverer, more ambitious or inspired or over-the-top conclusion to the Metal Gear Solid series, but it's definitely time to move on."

Filanime03  +   2815d ago
hey guys if u go to the comment box of the metal gear review u can see a bunch of 360 fanboys enjoying the 8 that the website gave to the series. Hmm by reading those comments the $itches in eurogamer want to please their 360 fanboys readers. U can tell that the majority of their readers are 360 fans I smell conspirancy just like gamespot.:

Here is some of the comments of 360 fanboys on the comment box:

"wow only 8, i know its not low but it was meant to be a perfect game yes? ... PS3 realy isn't worth buying now. I'll stick with my trusty PC and XBox360"

another one:
"Last PS3 great white hope blown out. What's left now to PS3 fanboys? FFXIII?"
"The minute MS announces some kind of Blu-Ray playback facility for the 360, I'm selling my -largely unused- PS3."

OMG I feel sorry for this guys. Stupid pricks doesn't really own a ps3 and pretending that they own one and they will sell it bcoz MSG got an 8 is wat pisses me off oh well. They also bash the cutscene and complicated story as I can already tell that bunch of these 360 fanboys don't get the story or bunch of 8 years old that don't understand much of the story and just hitting their puberty in which halo is the only cool thing. Peace out will buy this game day one.
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mikeslemonade  +   2815d ago
Eurogamer is a bunch of Microsoft money hats. I'm never going to their stupid site again.
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Harry190  +   2814d ago
I hope you guys know
Oli Welsh wrote only two reviews during his entire career.That one and Mario Kart Wii,to which he gave an 8/10 too.
marinelife9  +   2814d ago
MS isn't paying them (at least I wouldn't think so) It draws hits to the site. If they put out another AAAA score people wouldn't even bother to read the review.
theKiller  +   2814d ago
go to their site again,

but the truth is i never went to their site till now, but after this its a guarantee i wont go!!
avacadosnorkel  +   2814d ago
8 is OK, but...
Eurogamer thinks Loco Roco Cocoreccho is a 9.
Skip_Bayless  +   2814d ago
Next time Kojima Productions makes a game they shouldn't even bother sending review copies to Eurogamer. Or they should send the case of the game without the game disc and stick a note that says "HAHA you get nothing".

Eveyone should boycott the site and make them fools go bankrupted.
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Spinner  +   2814d ago

lol @ kotaku spin.

They don't mention any of the other reviews.

Yet, I don't see a "So Far, The lowest NG2 review score" article from them.

Alcohog  +   2814d ago
The reviewer is a self proclaimed love AND hate it mgs follower.
Potty Scotty  +   2814d ago
Same People that called Ninja Gaiden II a flop for getting an 8.
thewhoopimen  +   2814d ago
I'm starting to believe there is a certain amount of Western review Bias toward any games coming out of Asia. The reviewers preview was showering this title with excelsis. He was in every sense of the word, more emotionally involved in this MGS4 title than in the Halo3 review, and yet at the end, he throws an 8. But this isn't going to be the first or last time it seems. I just saw the IGN Uk review of MGS4, and they give it a 9.9.... I am like wtf? If its so easy to throw a 10 out Halo3 with its flaws and Halo2.5 gameplay, why is it so hard to score a 10 for MGS4? I mean WHAT gives? My own personal answer unfortuanately has come down to western bias... and I don't really like what my perception is leaning me.
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chaosatom333  +   2814d ago
not even a xbox fan hates mgs this much.
BattleAxe  +   2814d ago
Reviewer Palease....
The reviewer is probably going against the grain to purposely create a controversy so that he and eurogamer get more attention.

How can all the other reviews so far give it a 9.9/10 and 10/10 ect. and this guy comes out with this................palease
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foodbox  +   2814d ago
Its a conspiracy!
MS owns Eurgamer!
8/10??1? OMG!1!one! this game is 11/10!!1!

Ridiculous. Pathetic.

you people havent even **PLAYED** the game yet. N4G a home for the utterly clueless sony cheerleader.

The only reviews that have been disclosed thusfar are **EARLY EXCLUSIVE REVIEWS** take a breath you people. Wait until there are 20-30 reviews and then go look at the metacritic score.

If you think 8/10 is the lowest score this game will get, you are wrong. EVERY game gets a variety of scores -- after 20-30 you get an average, then you've got a general idea of "how it scored".

After reading the review, I'm finding that it sound like EG wanted to be generous -- this review sounds like something out of Rolling Stone, overly wordy and too much obvious praise.

I think he let you in on the situation by telling you how ridiculous and convoluted the story is... without saying it "sucked" or it was "pointless" or "too long for no reason" -- which is what he *wanted* to say but couldnt because this is an "exclusive early review".

ip-student  +   2814d ago
I think the review sounds fair if you aren't a MGS fanboy
The game has some great moments but has a lot of flaws that make it less than it could be (when you compare it to other games). The fact that a certain group of people like those flaws doesn't make them better.

For example, I would never buy a game where there are that many cut-scenes. So it depends on your perspective. But the reviewer definitely gave reasons for the score - some people may disagree but there were legitimate reasons - thus the review is valid. Reviews like this let us know that Kojima's attempt was brave but not perfect.

Same with other widely liked games - some people thought Halo 3 was lame (single player really was about a 7-7.5), others loved the co-player experience and the ability to make movies and stuff (multiplayer was a 10). So, depending on what you like, your score will change. Nothing wrong with that and it is always good to get a number of reviews. If you were a fan of the series it probably doesn't matter anyway so why the excitement. And if you aren't a fan you sure as heck want to know that this is not your typical game - a lot of people would not like to have 10-15 hours of cut scenes and would pass if they knew.
thewhoopimen  +   2814d ago
Hello that's why they give you the option of skipping the cutscenes. Why take a ding out on cutscenes if it's not mandatory to watch? You still get 20 hrs gameplay... That's just retarded. Technical flaws are flaws you can't bypass even if you wanted to. A cut-scene with a skip button getting a negative is just a biased excuse.

The truth is the reviewer just wanted either the attention or a under-the-coat fanboi.
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hades07  +   2814d ago
To those that say this site is being payed off by Microsoft, remember they gave Ninja Gaiden 2 the lowest score yet, MS's big exclusive game for the summer. I think Eurogamer are just trying to show they can give low scores after Halo 3 and GTA4, which is unfair to great games like NG2 and masterpieces like MGS4.
GameDev  +   2814d ago
does foodball still have 5 bubbles? if it was a PS3 fan trolling a 360 thread he'd been down to one already.
ShinMaster  +   2814d ago
The average is now at 94%.

Without Eurogamer's review, the average would be 99%!!!!!
Amanosenpai  +   2814d ago
V3te a la chingada Eurogamer....

fenderputty  +   2814d ago
I don't exactly think
Eurogamer's review is something to go by when deciding about MGS4 ... I don't think they're paid off though. Some of you guys need to get a grip. They just gave NGII, MS's large summer exclusive, a 7/10.

If anything, this should be looked at as a reason to think Eurogamer's reviews are generally crap for all consoles.

Now ... back to the rest of the 9's and 10's for MGS4 ... whoo!
xg-ei8ht  +   2814d ago
Eurogamer has always been and always will be a 360 favourite.

You only have to look at their comparisons.
Hapimeses  +   2815d ago
That's exactly the review I expected from Eurogamer; playing to type as always. Should be an interesting day watching these reviews coming in.
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pimpstation  +   2815d ago
I always thought Gamestop was biased. They're on Microsoft's payroll for chrissakes. But Eurogamer just blew them out of the water. This is unprecedented corruption. Eurogamer writers do not have souls. They are less than human.
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Britjadg  +   2815d ago
if you read the review they give it lower marks for story - which they found confusing...

ironically i have just finished reading IGN who said the story was perfect so dunno how two reviewers can come to different conclusions.
if i were to hazard a guess though, i would think it came down to pedigree and intelligence.

after reading all the material currently available i think that this is an absolutely worthless review.
pimpstation  +   2815d ago
This review is worse than worthless, its Eurogamer.
Britjadg  +   2815d ago
its almost like console discrimination, just read the review once more and i'm actually astounded. guys a proper mgs hater!

still it does have some use... you could print it out and wipe ur ass with it.
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CrazzyMan  +   2815d ago
This reviewer is LoL.
1) Oli Welsh is the MMO editor for

2) He reviewed only 3 games! =)))
Pirates of the Burning Sea: 6/10
Mario Kart Wii: 8/10
Army of Two: 7/10

It`s like giving NG2, NoMoreHeores to review to a casual gamer, while sonic and mario olimpic games to hardcore gamer. =))
Watkins  +   2815d ago
Yup, they put that score just to attract visitors. Although it's a shame they had to do it with MGS4. But since it's the biggest game of the year, I guess they're doing what they can
foodbox  +   2814d ago
I've never seen a more HYSTERICAL group of fabnoys in my life. Its a FEVER PITCH OF HYPE!
"its almost like console discrimination"

You cannot be serious.

Jesus you people are delusional.

Its a review. MGS4 is 8/10 from Eurogamer. Big deal.

Did you people think that everyone *must* give 11/10 to this game simply because you *wish* it to "be the bestest game in the history of the universe OMG!11!one!"?

You people are going to be *wildly* disappointed when these "exclusive early reviews" stop arriving and the rest of the planet's 20-30 other regular sources give their score.

Its not going to be 11/10.

Personally, you should try and relax. Dont do to yourself what happened after HAZE ended up with 5.6/10. Prepare for a disappointment, and when the game gets a solid 9/10 and its great and you enjoy it then you can be happy.

But you people are just HYSTERICAL with over-hyping this game.
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Assassin Nawabi  +   2815d ago
didn't saw that one coming
themyk  +   2814d ago
you didn't see that coming? i certainly did.
somebody had to come in and lower the metacritic score. right?

that is the stupidest thing they could have done.

hey eurogamer!!!!!! when pretty much every reputable site on the internet is giving this game next to perfect scores. you make your selves look like complete idiots by coming out and giving it 2 full points lower.

Bordel_1900  +   2814d ago
I saw that one coming a long way. Eurogamer have always been a piece of crap site.

I've said the exact same thing many times before.
Bacon  +   2815d ago
Eurogamer screws everything up. Next is 1up.
vloeistof  +   2815d ago
a 8 ..

what did they gave halo3 ???

well now come the scores that will lower its average.
Vojkan  +   2815d ago
Do you really need to ask?
LenHart  +   2815d ago
they gave Halo 3 a 10/10
It is eurogamer so they would ofcourse give HALO 3 a good score

They are MS loyals and we all know that

@1stKnight aka FirstKnight

so you created an account to troll here

you saw 9.9 from IGN UK for MGS4. didnt you .Thats more than what Halo 3 and GEars/Bioshock got from them

wait for more reviews. Many websites will call it the greatest game

euogamer/1up and Gamespot dont count
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DrPirate  +   2815d ago
Halo 3 > MGS4 :P

It doesn't matter dudes.

If you're a fan, this is auto GotF (Forever).

They can rate it 0 and call it less interactive than a text-based adventure it's still a day 1 purchase for me.
crck  +   2815d ago
Sony should of reserved some of those Gunmetal grey ps3s
to send out to reviewers as bribes like MS did with Halo 3. lol
1stKnighT  +   2815d ago
And the Halo jealousy continues. I'm pretty sure you'll never find MGS or any ps3 game in a Halo thread.
pimpstation  +   2815d ago
MGS4 doesn't need bribes. Nearly every review has/will call it the greatest game ever made. One xbox fanboy who hates the Metal Gear franchise and gives it an 8 won't change that.
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gambare  +   2814d ago
halo jealous?
mmm... no, halo 3 was not good, that's why the scores about halo 3 didn't matter, anyway MGS4 received a 9.9 from IGN UK, and IGN UK scored Halo 3 with a 9.5, so, according to IGN UK MGS4 is better than Halo 3
macalatus  +   2814d ago

"And the Halo jealousy continues. I'm pretty sure you'll never find MGS or any ps3 game in a Halo thread."

And I'm also pretty sure that I can most, if not always, find you in a PS3 article, you freakin' troll!
xhi4  +   2815d ago
i don't know why but when I saw eurogamer MGS4 review as the title before i hit the jump.......i was like hmmm this will be interesting.

lol great to see eurogamer sticking with the stereotype.
verb3k  +   2815d ago
Eurogamer = FAILURE
We all know they are xbots
LenHart  +   2815d ago
I think SONY
should seriously freeze the reviews of 1up and Gamespot as well

Those are the 2 websites that would give it a bad review for being a PS3 game
Tmac  +   2815d ago
LenHart usually I find you a completely insufferable retard, but this time your right, unfortunately.
n4gzz  +   2815d ago
Why do Sony even give these mofos a copy of game ??
Montrealien  +   2815d ago
*hands over tinfoil hats to fanbots*

You guys are real flakes. This game will be amazing but to think that the whole world must bow down to the powefull MGS 4 is simple bottom feeding fanboy crap. Go buy the game when it comes out and enjoy it. If you really worry so much about what other people think of the things you like, you become their slave.

Edit: last time I checked 8/10 was a great score. Although the guys that reviewed it had a few useless harsh words. But who cares really? what matters is what YOU think of the game.
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Veryangryxbot  +   2815d ago
Here are some quotes from other reviewers:

"MGS4 sets new standards for videogames"
"MGS4 is infinitely better than Halo or Gears of war"
"MGS4 makes the competition look downright pathetic, regardless if they are called Halo or Gears of war"
"You will not play a better game this year or the next decade" (author: meaning next TEN years not next two years)
"MGS4 is game of the year"
"MGS4 is a masterpiece"

These quotes speak for themselves. A game of this magnitude cannot even be compared to crap like Halo. MGS4 is fking lightyears away.

And to award GOTY with 8 out of 10 is borderline retardism.

MGS4 has the best graphics seen so far, best story, clearest story with true uncompressed dolby 7.1 surround sound, unmatched physics and details, beautiful HDR, beautiful animation, best story so far, this is the game PS3 is made for. You will not find any other 3rd party game untill FF13 (VS13) that can match MGS4 on the technical aspects. Period.

When 99% of all other reviews are 2 points higher than yours, then you know something is not right.

This review is a joke. MS money hard at work here. No other explanation.
Sir_Ken_Kutaragi  +   2815d ago
8/10??????????????????????? sponsored by Micro$oft (The Cheques in the Post) ;-D

I saw that reviewer the other day buying a 10 Million pound House!!!

For me it's been -

MGS1 10/10 (More than a 10!Such a clever game!) ;-P
MGS2 10/10 (MAN!that Ship!That rain!It felt real somehow) ;-P
MGS3 10/10 (Loved sneaking in the Jungle!) ;-P
MG:O 10/10 (Online i loved it!!!It's got it's own style) ;-P
MGS4 10/10 (It's got to/WILL be!What i've seen of it looks like another 10/10!!!EASY!) ;-P

PS3 Fans 10/10;)
ShinMaster  +   2814d ago
The guy who reviewed it, has NEVER played a MGS game in his life, or at least something similar.
thePatriot  +   2814d ago
That is all.

Your comments contains 1 words that are not allowed
The word that is not allowed:FUC*
TheColbertinator  +   2814d ago
Wait a minute
He doesnt even talk about the combat system that much just how much he disliked the cinematics.Dont worry about it though he was just trying to piss people off.
DrPirate  +   2815d ago
Read the review. Basically, the guy hates the series, wants it to end, is happy it's finished and he didn't understand the plot.

Basically, an idiot wrote this review.
Fishy Fingers  +   2815d ago
So true Pirate.

and Id just like to congratulate you for being one of the few who read the review before commenting.
gambare  +   2814d ago
the reviewer :

"MGS series doesn't have a plot" WTF????

That guy is high or something, he only have 3 reviews and every review is bad, he HATES metal gear, is like expecting a score from a Xbox magazine about MGS4
Tmac  +   2815d ago
Wow are you serious? This has got to be one of the worst reviews in the last decade. I know the website editors are 360 biased but this is ridiculous.

He totally loves the entire game till the last paragraph? Seriously I thought Eurogamer was an okay source but this is just stupid.
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DrPirate  +   2815d ago
Don't worry about it.

He gave MGS3 an 8 (Which is my favorite so far in the series).

If you're a fan, this review is best ignored because his opinion doesn't matter.
crimsonfox  +   2815d ago
hahahahaha nacho
has a grey mustache over his normal one haha sorry it was off topic

anyways this scare is gay

name  +   2815d ago
They sent someone who doesn't even like the mgs series to review the game?
DrPirate  +   2815d ago
When someone finishes their review with:

"We love you Snake. But never come back."

(Sarcasm) You know how much this guy was looking forward to this game. (/sarcasm)
clintos59  +   2815d ago
These guys can blow me...
I never trusted these guys and they can suck a fat one for low blowing MGS4. I wonder how much MS payed them. :)
Area_51  +   2814d ago
Lets Hit the EIC with a ton of emails, asking him why he would let a rookie review a epic game like MGS4.

His name is tom and her is his email
[email protected]
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Closing  +   2815d ago
File under very untrustworthy source.
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The Wood  +   2815d ago
will do
are well, reputable sites are dropping off like flies. bookmark deleted.

seems extreme but its just my choice and hurts nobody else
End Of war 2  +   2815d ago
LinuxGuru  +   2815d ago
Wasted your one bubble on that, huh?
themyk  +   2814d ago
so what's basically happened is, the lowest this game's pretty much got so far is a. what? 9.6. so these guys pretty much only goal was to bring the average down.

that's pathetic.
PS_Family  +   2815d ago
That site reeks of xbox all over the place.
Potty Scotty  +   2814d ago
Not everyone is a Metal Gear fan and not everyone that plays it is going to like it. Why does a low score always have something to do with Microsoft. Just except that someone liked the game ok.
Michael Jackson  +   2815d ago
WTF?? Now that's just really outlandishly dumb! F*ck europe! I mean f*ck eurogamer!
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LJWooly  +   2815d ago
These guys are doing a disservice to Europe... petition for a name change. I propose "tardgamer".
Maverick_  +   2815d ago
Absolutely Mind-Blowing. They know what they are doing. I don't even feel surprised. Absolutely mind blowing.
mesh1  +   2815d ago
Well As i said mgs4 will never get goty and btw this is a qiote from CVG: Quote:
Hello, Early reviews for MGS4 are creeping out on the internet and, like GTAIV, it's another near-perfect whitewash. "Without a doubt, one of the greatest games of all time", screams US magazine Gamepro, "Every once in a long time, a game will come along that changes all the rules... and MGS4's potential influence on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic". Exciting? Yes. Accurate? No - it's total bullshit.

We've finished MGS4. Twice. And while it's an incredible achievement, it's no more a seismic leap for games, than GTAIV was from GTA: San Andreas, or GTA3. It's merely - and we say this with a hefty pinch of salt - a wonderful next-gen polishing of a largely last-gen experience. The gameplay mechanics - while surely the series' most polished - are instantly recognisable, and despite reasonably freeform opening levels, it's not a shock reimagining of the series. 'Shocking' or 'tectonic' gameplay would have been fully destructible levels with truly 'nowhere to hide', as once billed. Or *huge* open world crowds where you need to use disguise, or body language, or real voice reading via an audio mic, to blend in seamlessly - but despite some excellent stealth sections, MGS4's best efforts are 'only' a polishing of MGS3's camouflage-led jungle sneaking; bar an unexpected, if fairly linear, stealth episode half-way through.

To use a recent example, was GTA4 everything you'd been promised by 99% of the world's media? As incredible as it is/was - probably not. Folk were falling over themselves to award it perfect 100%, or 10/10, scores, setting expectations at ridiculous levels. Amazingly, our score of 96% was the world's lowest for a number of weeks, which truly beggars belief.

We're not saying MGS4 isn't brilliant - it clearly is - but temper those expectations with reality. While its individual components are hard to fault, the bigger question is whether it holds together as a whole - and that's an issue we'll attempt to resolve in our review, in PSM102, on-sale next Thursday. Truth is, MGS4 is so complex, nuanced and indulgent, it's too early to say whether it's the work of genius or madness, or - most accurately - both. The trick's whether Kojima's got the balance right from scene-to-scene.

One thing's sure: MGS4's certainly the most interesting game of 2008, and while we only know a select few who've finished it, we've already had in-depth, half-hour minimum, heated debates with all of them about what the game truly means. And, in fairness, we're one of the most dissenting voices - despite thinking MGS4 is incredible.

Can't wait to find out what you think of it - we'll kick off the debate in a forthcoming issue, with amazing prizes for those who can provide the most accurate description of its themes/worth. *Amazing* prizes - if not 'tectonic' - but you'll see. With just over two weeks to UK launch, the countdown has begun.
LinuxGuru  +   2815d ago
Tmac  +   2815d ago
Is all that suppose to say negativity even though they say MGS4 is the best game of 2008?
Montrealien  +   2815d ago
And Linux knows all that is wrong because he has been playing the game for a week.
iEnzeru  +   2815d ago
This review failed!!! Complete trash as to why it was given an 8. Give it an 8 but be credible at least... oh right, it's Eurogamer.
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nn  +   2815d ago
I will still buy it.
also a question. at page 4 they are writing: "Take note, however, that there are several minutes of install time to be endured, not just at the start, but before each act - albeit graced with a fantastic animated graphic of Snake smoking next to some health warnings." an install before each act?
Bathyj  +   2815d ago
And this is what I expected any day now. They just cant stand a game of this caliber on PS3 and PS3 only that justifies all the tech in it.

And why would jerk who hates MGS and wants it to end get the review? So him and 4 or 5 other jerks just like him can bring down the metascore.

Sorry but I cant imagine even hardcore bots would agree with this. I'm starting to thing reviews, should be reviewed and if they dont get a passing score should be stricken from the record. Its not that I care that much about meta or gamerankings but it seems so many idiots put so much stock into it. A handful of morons with agendas shouldn't be able to corrupt the process.

Igive this review 5.4
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The Wood  +   2815d ago
i give this review

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mcd004  +   2815d ago
Overall the review was fun and all....

"We love you eurogamer, but please don't come back with another useless review" (sarcasm)

8/10!!! lol
resistance100  +   2815d ago
Wow what a crap review. The person who wrote it, clearly has something agaisnt the Metal Gear Franchise
Veryangryxbot  +   2815d ago
The person who wrote that, goes by another name when not working...
he is also known as "xbot".
PopEmUp  +   2814d ago
he probably playing GALO 2.5 while he reviewing it lol
PR0NE  +   2814d ago
Go throw yourself off the roof, because hahaha eurogamer crushed your silly hopes, the game you're mocking was goty last year and had a high metacritic score, it can't be surpassed, mgs4 is another flop on your dead console, and don't try to alter the game's name, it's not called Galo, it's called Gaylo 2.3, it recieved its high scores from the *cough*excellent* press who's critisizing mgs4
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DrPirate  +   2815d ago
The closing comments:

You're sorry to see Snake go. But should you be? Guns of the Patriots is a frustrating, fractured game that turns Metal Gear Solid's world upside down several times over, but never changes it. It just burrows deeper into what fans love and detractors hate than ever before, and it will make few converts. It's a crying shame, given how many genuinely classic gaming moments there are here, given the countless exquisite creative touches, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is its own worst enemy. You could not ask for a funnier, cleverer, more ambitious or inspired or over-the-top conclusion to the Metal Gear Solid series, but it's definitely time to move on.

We love you, Snake. Don't come back.

... Up yours Eurogamer, we hope you don't ever come back as well.
macalatus  +   2814d ago
(Scratches head)

Hey Pirate, what the f_ck's Eurogamer? A gay dating site? ;)
qwertyuiopasdfghjkl  +   2815d ago
But but but...
Not even snake can resist MGS4! He gave it a 10/10!

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LinuxGuru  +   2815d ago
@ below


I rest my case.
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qwertyuiopasdfghjkl  +   2815d ago
No, the picture was taken from a forum of MGS4 picture edits. My PC and PS3 sit beside my TV, open and free to let warm exhaust flow freely.
Bolts  +   2815d ago
So he hated the plot?
So this guy hate the plot and MGS series but he love the gameplay and the end result is an 8? WTF??
DrPirate  +   2815d ago
I normally don't ever do damage control, but for this, it is worth it.

I'm telling people not to place stock into this person's writing, opinion, and the stupid meaningless number at the end of it.

That's all it is for him, it's a number. For me it's the answer to an epic saga 20 years in the making.

This game got my 10 before it ever came out.
poos3  +   2815d ago
HAHA WELL EUROGAMER GAVE ninja gaiden 2 7/10 and noe they gave mgs4 8/10 emaning ng2 is close to the quality of mgs4 don tbleive all thos eno namwe webiste sponcored by sony the only real review that have been shwon are ign 9.9/10 (gta,halo3,gears of war scored higher) and euorgamer 8/10 so yeas there si no way mgs4 will get goty there asr eso many better games comign out later on in the year this just proves mgs4 is not all that it racked up to be its a great game tho b8t not a masterpeice.

edit belal:show me the link ? also a 2yr old game and a new ip scroing the same as the so called mgs4 hahaha farse wiat and see what epic and microsfot 2nd outing on th e360 hardware will show gears of war 2 will bacially have halo 3 wepon deapth even more and gameplay depth with out of this woprld graphics do you knwo what than means it menas the game will be marked as 1 of the greatest in centurys UOT EME ON THAT game i prefere playing to mgs4 are gears of war 2.fable 2,toohuman,left for dead,bajoo 3
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Tmac  +   2815d ago
I apologize for being harsh on you, I'm only on the other side of the looking glass but by any chance are you retarded?
Kraken  +   2815d ago
You kidding me?
Only game that scored higher have to be GTAIV, which got a 10.

Halo 3: 9.5
Gears: 9.4
But of course, this was the US version, not UK.
Britjadg  +   2815d ago
go easy hes not retarded: hes six years old, illiterate and a liar.

for those that care and i doubt any1 really does since this douche only has 1 bubble.
Gears of WAR got a 9.4 on IGN
Halo 3 got a 9.5 on IGN

so while his comments are comical, they hold up to scrutiny about as well as heather mills does in court.

since 360 (and gamers in general) note that the above are both great games. i have no quarms in saying MGS provides a very serious alternative to some of the best 360 exclusives out so far.

FUK SAKE KRAKEN LOL, beat me to it.
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name  +   2815d ago
^ And there it goes
belal  +   2815d ago
what the hell!?!
i trust ign uk and us 10x more than i trust this xbot crap site, wtf 8 of ten, not a single revive has given this game under 9.5 the all of the sudden it gets a 8 , i think that MS har something to do with this.
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Montrealien  +   2815d ago
Here's is the real question though, do you trust Eurogamers review of NG2?
fufotrufo  +   2815d ago
when this happened to NG2 ..everyone laughed...and the game was suddenly a flop ..
and Now... look at everyone trashing eurogamer!

Tmac  +   2815d ago
NG2- Serious graphic issues, significant slow down and broken camera.

Enough said.
donator  +   2815d ago
You forgot the fact that numerous sites gave NG2 mediocre scores. So your point is invalid.
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