Eurogamer: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Review

Eurogamer writes,

"Metal Gear Solid has always been a love it or hate it proposition. Millions love it for its involved, conspiratorial plotting, its arch sense of humour, its demanding stealth gameplay, its sprawling cinematic ambition, its preposterous stylishness and pretensions toward artistic weight. Millions hate it for exactly the same reasons.

Then there are those - this reviewer included - for whom Metal Gear Solid is a love it and hate it proposition. Flawed, intractable, unspeakably tedious at times, and yet blessed with incredible production values, imaginative design, and a brilliant, brave willingness to think and do the unexpected and impossible. At times they're barely videogames at all, but they're capable of moments of pure videogame genius, joy and shock that few other series can match."

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Vojkan3433d ago

WOW an 8? Give me a brake

LenHart3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

are these websites against PS3 now


cant believe the audacity of eurogamer to give MGS4 an 8/10


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@linux guru

Jenzo was not joking as we all know him. read his comment history

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LinuxGuru3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

Come on Len/nasim/20 other accounts, Jenzo was making a joke about how what's-his-name up there spelled "break"

You know....ceramic brakes.....regular brakes....nevermind.

pimpstation3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

Someone send their server a virus so this garbage doesn't get online.

We shouldn't allow them to tarnish the reputation of gaming's ultimate achievement and the pinnacle of this medium.

pimpstation3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

Eurogayes is the worst site on the internet. This reviewer makes it obvious he has no idea what he's talking about. Where did they find this monkey? This site gives Halo 3 a 10 and MGS4 an 8. That right there proves they cannot utter one true statement or fact on anything gaming related.

Actually, this must be a joke. They're just messing with us. It's the only explanation. Or maybe Microsoft is paying like they never have before.

anh_duong3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

this post is going to to be the hottest post of the week bar none..

Read this eurogamer preview after the played the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS:

"And on this occasion, in a heroic effort to draw a line for once and all under Snake's story and give the Metal Gear Solid series the grand finale it deserves, Hideo Kojima and his team really have outdone themselves. 'Extravagant' doesn't cover it. Nor do 'dramatic', 'spectacular', 'sentimental', 'surprising', 'long-winded', 'final', 'painstaking' or 'polished'. Guns of the Patriots is Metal Gear Solid in excelsis." - eurogamer

makes you wonder why the reviewer bothered to preview the game.

InMyOpinion3433d ago

I just pulled your leg 5 mins ago in the IGN MGS4 Review open zone, saying GTA IV is better than MGS4. Something I don't think I'll agree with at all(haven't played MGS4 yet). The fanboy reaction was overwhelming lol!

The Wood3433d ago

Jenzo's kool

old comments are just that, old comments

Presentist3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

I don't understand you guys, you haven't played the game, how could you possibly dispute this score?

I mean, I agree that this score sucks, but we'll have to wait until the game comes out to see if we think it deserves higher.

Winter47th3433d ago

Who the **** is this fanboy retard and how did he make it to the review cast ?

OmegaKulu3433d ago

Well, if you look at reviewer's history, he reviewed a bunch of MMOs and mario cart wii... i wont expect much out of him...

LJWooly3433d ago

Don't worry people. I can guarantee you this is probably the lowest score the game's going to get (unless Gamespot outdoes them) and it's only going to affect the metascore by 0.2, I think.

Do we even really need reviews to tell us how good a game like Metal Gear Solid is? I think, personally, anyone with even remote experience of the series would do well to expect great, great things from this game. I can't wait.

Still, nothing's going to stop this becoming the hottest story on this website in a while. Flame-retardent exoskeleton GO!

CrazzyMan3433d ago

"You're sorry to see Snake go. But should you be? Guns of the Patriots is a frustrating, fractured game that turns Metal Gear Solid's world upside down several times over, but never changes it. It just burrows deeper into what fans love and detractors hate than ever before, and it will make few converts. It's a crying shame, given how many genuinely classic gaming moments there are here, given the countless exquisite creative touches, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is its own worst enemy. You could not ask for a funnier, cleverer, more ambitious or inspired or over-the-top conclusion to the Metal Gear Solid series, but it's definitely time to move on."


Filanime033433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

hey guys if u go to the comment box of the metal gear review u can see a bunch of 360 fanboys enjoying the 8 that the website gave to the series. Hmm by reading those comments the $itches in eurogamer want to please their 360 fanboys readers. U can tell that the majority of their readers are 360 fans I smell conspirancy just like gamespot.:

Here is some of the comments of 360 fanboys on the comment box:

"wow only 8, i know its not low but it was meant to be a perfect game yes? ... PS3 realy isn't worth buying now. I'll stick with my trusty PC and XBox360"

another one:
"Last PS3 great white hope blown out. What's left now to PS3 fanboys? FFXIII?"
"The minute MS announces some kind of Blu-Ray playback facility for the 360, I'm selling my -largely unused- PS3."

OMG I feel sorry for this guys. Stupid pricks doesn't really own a ps3 and pretending that they own one and they will sell it bcoz MSG got an 8 is wat pisses me off oh well. They also bash the cutscene and complicated story as I can already tell that bunch of these 360 fanboys don't get the story or bunch of 8 years old that don't understand much of the story and just hitting their puberty in which halo is the only cool thing. Peace out will buy this game day one.

mikeslemonade3433d ago

Eurogamer is a bunch of Microsoft money hats. I'm never going to their stupid site again.

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Harry1903433d ago

Oli Welsh wrote only two reviews during his entire career.That one and Mario Kart Wii,to which he gave an 8/10 too.

marinelife93433d ago

MS isn't paying them (at least I wouldn't think so) It draws hits to the site. If they put out another AAAA score people wouldn't even bother to read the review.

theKiller3433d ago

go to their site again,

but the truth is i never went to their site till now, but after this its a guarantee i wont go!!

avacadosnorkel3433d ago

Eurogamer thinks Loco Roco Cocoreccho is a 9.

Skip_Bayless3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

Next time Kojima Productions makes a game they shouldn't even bother sending review copies to Eurogamer. Or they should send the case of the game without the game disc and stick a note that says "HAHA you get nothing".

Eveyone should boycott the site and make them fools go bankrupted.

Spinner3433d ago

lol @ kotaku spin.

They don't mention any of the other reviews.

Yet, I don't see a "So Far, The lowest NG2 review score" article from them.


Alcohog3433d ago

The reviewer is a self proclaimed love AND hate it mgs follower.

Potty Scotty3433d ago

Same People that called Ninja Gaiden II a flop for getting an 8.

thewhoopimen3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

I'm starting to believe there is a certain amount of Western review Bias toward any games coming out of Asia. The reviewers preview was showering this title with excelsis. He was in every sense of the word, more emotionally involved in this MGS4 title than in the Halo3 review, and yet at the end, he throws an 8. But this isn't going to be the first or last time it seems. I just saw the IGN Uk review of MGS4, and they give it a 9.9.... I am like wtf? If its so easy to throw a 10 out Halo3 with its flaws and Halo2.5 gameplay, why is it so hard to score a 10 for MGS4? I mean WHAT gives? My own personal answer unfortuanately has come down to western bias... and I don't really like what my perception is leaning me.

chaosatom3333433d ago

not even a xbox fan hates mgs this much.

BattleAxe3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

The reviewer is probably going against the grain to purposely create a controversy so that he and eurogamer get more attention.

How can all the other reviews so far give it a 9.9/10 and 10/10 ect. and this guy comes out with this................palease

foodbox3433d ago

Its a conspiracy!
MS owns Eurgamer!
8/10??1? OMG!1!one! this game is 11/10!!1!

Ridiculous. Pathetic.

you people havent even **PLAYED** the game yet. N4G a home for the utterly clueless sony cheerleader.

The only reviews that have been disclosed thusfar are **EARLY EXCLUSIVE REVIEWS** take a breath you people. Wait until there are 20-30 reviews and then go look at the metacritic score.

If you think 8/10 is the lowest score this game will get, you are wrong. EVERY game gets a variety of scores -- after 20-30 you get an average, then you've got a general idea of "how it scored".

After reading the review, I'm finding that it sound like EG wanted to be generous -- this review sounds like something out of Rolling Stone, overly wordy and too much obvious praise.

I think he let you in on the situation by telling you how ridiculous and convoluted the story is... without saying it "sucked" or it was "pointless" or "too long for no reason" -- which is what he *wanted* to say but couldnt because this is an "exclusive early review".


ip-student3433d ago

The game has some great moments but has a lot of flaws that make it less than it could be (when you compare it to other games). The fact that a certain group of people like those flaws doesn't make them better.

For example, I would never buy a game where there are that many cut-scenes. So it depends on your perspective. But the reviewer definitely gave reasons for the score - some people may disagree but there were legitimate reasons - thus the review is valid. Reviews like this let us know that Kojima's attempt was brave but not perfect.

Same with other widely liked games - some people thought Halo 3 was lame (single player really was about a 7-7.5), others loved the co-player experience and the ability to make movies and stuff (multiplayer was a 10). So, depending on what you like, your score will change. Nothing wrong with that and it is always good to get a number of reviews. If you were a fan of the series it probably doesn't matter anyway so why the excitement. And if you aren't a fan you sure as heck want to know that this is not your typical game - a lot of people would not like to have 10-15 hours of cut scenes and would pass if they knew.

thewhoopimen3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

Hello that's why they give you the option of skipping the cutscenes. Why take a ding out on cutscenes if it's not mandatory to watch? You still get 20 hrs gameplay... That's just retarded. Technical flaws are flaws you can't bypass even if you wanted to. A cut-scene with a skip button getting a negative is just a biased excuse.

The truth is the reviewer just wanted either the attention or a under-the-coat fanboi.

hades073433d ago

To those that say this site is being payed off by Microsoft, remember they gave Ninja Gaiden 2 the lowest score yet, MS's big exclusive game for the summer. I think Eurogamer are just trying to show they can give low scores after Halo 3 and GTA4, which is unfair to great games like NG2 and masterpieces like MGS4.

GameDev3432d ago

does foodball still have 5 bubbles? if it was a PS3 fan trolling a 360 thread he'd been down to one already.

ShinMaster3432d ago

The average is now at 94%.

Without Eurogamer's review, the average would be 99%!!!!!

Amanosenpai3432d ago

V3te a la chingada Eurogamer....


fenderputty3432d ago

Eurogamer's review is something to go by when deciding about MGS4 ... I don't think they're paid off though. Some of you guys need to get a grip. They just gave NGII, MS's large summer exclusive, a 7/10.

If anything, this should be looked at as a reason to think Eurogamer's reviews are generally crap for all consoles.

Now ... back to the rest of the 9's and 10's for MGS4 ... whoo!

xg-ei8ht3432d ago

Eurogamer has always been and always will be a 360 favourite.

You only have to look at their comparisons.

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Hapimeses3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

That's exactly the review I expected from Eurogamer; playing to type as always. Should be an interesting day watching these reviews coming in.

pimpstation3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

I always thought Gamestop was biased. They're on Microsoft's payroll for chrissakes. But Eurogamer just blew them out of the water. This is unprecedented corruption. Eurogamer writers do not have souls. They are less than human.

Britjadg3433d ago

if you read the review they give it lower marks for story - which they found confusing...

ironically i have just finished reading IGN who said the story was perfect so dunno how two reviewers can come to different conclusions.
if i were to hazard a guess though, i would think it came down to pedigree and intelligence.

after reading all the material currently available i think that this is an absolutely worthless review.

pimpstation3433d ago

This review is worse than worthless, its Eurogamer.

Britjadg3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

its almost like console discrimination, just read the review once more and i'm actually astounded. guys a proper mgs hater!

still it does have some use... you could print it out and wipe ur ass with it.

CrazzyMan3433d ago

1) Oli Welsh is the MMO editor for

2) He reviewed only 3 games! =)))
Pirates of the Burning Sea: 6/10
Mario Kart Wii: 8/10
Army of Two: 7/10

It`s like giving NG2, NoMoreHeores to review to a casual gamer, while sonic and mario olimpic games to hardcore gamer. =))

Watkins3433d ago

Yup, they put that score just to attract visitors. Although it's a shame they had to do it with MGS4. But since it's the biggest game of the year, I guess they're doing what they can

foodbox3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

"its almost like console discrimination"

You cannot be serious.

Jesus you people are delusional.

Its a review. MGS4 is 8/10 from Eurogamer. Big deal.

Did you people think that everyone *must* give 11/10 to this game simply because you *wish* it to "be the bestest game in the history of the universe OMG!11!one!"?

You people are going to be *wildly* disappointed when these "exclusive early reviews" stop arriving and the rest of the planet's 20-30 other regular sources give their score.

Its not going to be 11/10.

Personally, you should try and relax. Dont do to yourself what happened after HAZE ended up with 5.6/10. Prepare for a disappointment, and when the game gets a solid 9/10 and its great and you enjoy it then you can be happy.

But you people are just HYSTERICAL with over-hyping this game.

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themyk3433d ago

you didn't see that coming? i certainly did.
somebody had to come in and lower the metacritic score. right?

that is the stupidest thing they could have done.

hey eurogamer!!!!!! when pretty much every reputable site on the internet is giving this game next to perfect scores. you make your selves look like complete idiots by coming out and giving it 2 full points lower.


Bordel_19003433d ago

I saw that one coming a long way. Eurogamer have always been a piece of crap site.

I've said the exact same thing many times before.

Bacon3433d ago

Eurogamer screws everything up. Next is 1up.

vloeistof3433d ago

a 8 ..

what did they gave halo3 ???

well now come the scores that will lower its average.

Vojkan3433d ago

Do you really need to ask?

LenHart3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

It is eurogamer so they would ofcourse give HALO 3 a good score

They are MS loyals and we all know that

@1stKnight aka FirstKnight

so you created an account to troll here

you saw 9.9 from IGN UK for MGS4. didnt you .Thats more than what Halo 3 and GEars/Bioshock got from them

wait for more reviews. Many websites will call it the greatest game

euogamer/1up and Gamespot dont count

DrPirate3433d ago

Halo 3 > MGS4 :P

It doesn't matter dudes.

If you're a fan, this is auto GotF (Forever).

They can rate it 0 and call it less interactive than a text-based adventure it's still a day 1 purchase for me.

crck3433d ago

to send out to reviewers as bribes like MS did with Halo 3. lol

1stKnighT3433d ago

And the Halo jealousy continues. I'm pretty sure you'll never find MGS or any ps3 game in a Halo thread.

pimpstation3433d ago (Edited 3433d ago )

MGS4 doesn't need bribes. Nearly every review has/will call it the greatest game ever made. One xbox fanboy who hates the Metal Gear franchise and gives it an 8 won't change that.

gambare3433d ago

mmm... no, halo 3 was not good, that's why the scores about halo 3 didn't matter, anyway MGS4 received a 9.9 from IGN UK, and IGN UK scored Halo 3 with a 9.5, so, according to IGN UK MGS4 is better than Halo 3

macalatus3432d ago


"And the Halo jealousy continues. I'm pretty sure you'll never find MGS or any ps3 game in a Halo thread."

And I'm also pretty sure that I can most, if not always, find you in a PS3 article, you freakin' troll!

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