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Submitted by Abriael 566d ago | rumor

Report: Watch_Dogs on PS4 Does Run at 1080p, 60 FPS With Barely Any Frame Rate Drops

A lot of talk has been done in the past few days about the frame rate and resolution of Watch_Dogs on PS4, and a new preview could shed some light on the issue. (PS4, Watch Dogs)

Update Apparently the information given by Ubisoft Germany to Golemn was not correct, as the publisher announced today that the game will run at at 900p on PS4 and 792p on Xbox One, at 30 frames-per-second on both consoles.

Is this rumor true? Rumor votes 91
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yewles1  +   566d ago
Downgrade Returns: Fanboy Fantasy 13 Million...
AngelicIceDiamond  +   566d ago
(sigh) You know what?

I think it would be ALLOT easier to know if we just wait till launch....
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GarrusVakarian  +   566d ago
I gotta say, i hope this isn't true. With this game in particular, i would rather have 1080p @ 30fps with all those effects turned on, over 60fps with no AF, no AO, no decent AA and worse textures.

Don't get me wrong, i love 60fps and greatly prefer it. But for a third person open world game like this...60fps just isn't top priority for me. I'd rather have the extra power spent elsewhere.

I guess we will just have to wait for official confirmation from Ubi, or wait until release. Either way, this is getting ridiculous, we aren't even talking about the games themselves any more, only the numbers of games. Sigh.
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Bathyj  +   566d ago
Agree Lukas. 60fps is not necessary in this type of game, it only matters its a constant framerate.

Hopefully the graphics downgrade is exaggerated or its not a complete build.

Anyway, what Ive seen of the game looks great, so if its that pretty AND 60fps then I'll be happy either way.
Eonjay  +   566d ago
60FPS is back on again:

So I went to bed and I wake up and Ubisoft is continuing its path of destruction and utter confusion. Of course Sony didn't lie about something like this. But by the same token, we have no idea if what Ubisoft has showed us is in fact representative of the game itself. I am sure that by the time I get to work the resolution and framerate will change again because Ubisoft has no damn clue what they plan on releasing in two weeks.

I wonder if the game is called Watch_Dogs anymore. Maybe its called Jack_Ass now.

Ubisoft needs to end this. Like today.
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starchild  +   566d ago
I'm still skeptical, but if it ends up being true then awesome. It should be easy to hit 60fps on my PC in that case.
SniperControl  +   566d ago
Right, that's my mind made up, i was going to get it on PS4, but will now get it on PC.

That way i get both 1080p@60+ & no graphical downgrades with everything turned on.
morganfell  +   566d ago
If this turns out to be true then I called it from the beginning and Abriael called it in the previous thread. Not in the article but rather as part of the explanation as to why the posting was removed from Sony's site.

Also in that previous thread and countless others, there will be several persons having to strap on a lobster bib that will be best worn considering the massive serving of humble pie they will have to force down their gullet. I personally will be glad to be part of the wait staff bringing continual servings.

The truth of the graphics downgrade/upgrade/sideways grade framerate fixed/movable/choosable will be out shortly and all of this idiocy can end. Ubisoft has managed to make an utter mess of this and damaged what otherwise started out promising in the minds of some. I for one was not one of them. Although I am purchasing the game day 1, I stated after the E3 demo that the entire affair of stage was faked and we were not seeing real game footage. For this I was summarily attacked on this site. Vindication certainly has a welcome feel.
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avengers1978  +   566d ago
What if it's 1080/60 and it still looks great, I just think everyone should wait till game comes out. They graphics may very well still blow you away. I am cautiously optimistic about watch dogs.
pwnsause_returns  +   566d ago
its going to be interesting the next few days to hear more about how this game runs.

i agree 60fps in this type of game is not needed. its great if it does, but its an open world game

it makes me think about the controversy surrounding this game from a few months ago with all of the downgrade concerns..
SIX  +   566d ago
Just going by the first few posts. What is it now? 60 fps is bad? Jeezus, "you're damned if you do, damned if you don't".
AceBlazer13  +   566d ago
So ubisoft probably did what Microsoft did with forza? Dumbed down graphics for 1080p 60fps. Would like for this to be untrue, 30fps and better graphics is preferable, but hey if they got 60fps + kept graphics I'm open to that, but unlikely.
HammerKong  +   566d ago
i agrees u,but at ign i read that it is not gona run at 60fps so now hows this?
Eonjay  +   566d ago

IGN is so five minutes ago... you gotta be tuned in live to Ubisoft's daytime drama or else you wont know whats going on.
xander70769  +   566d ago
SIX, that's the problem though...

Gamers have made such a HUGE deal about frames per second that devs are believing, wrongly, that 60fps has become a TOP priority.

This is the downside of the console war. Fanboys overreact to everything, and they can't wait to talk crap about how their system can "run the game better" than the competition because it plays at 60fps. Developers see that frames are the big talking point right now, and so inevitably that is where the focus will shift. And when they make sacrifices just so the game can run at higher frames, they will be confused when gamers moan about all the sacrifices.

Don't get me wrong, 60fps is great, but it's not worth sacrificing a bunch of other visual effects. Not for a game like this.
papashango  +   566d ago
60fps is necessary for this type of game. I'd rather they scale the resolution back if they have to.
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ThunderSpark  +   565d ago
900p vs 792p. With both systems now priced at 400, which console would you choose to play Watch Dogs on?
starchild  +   565d ago
Looks like I was right. I said it was a mistake in the other thread and that I was "still skeptical" in this thread and had a bunch of people disagree with me.
Abriael  +   566d ago
Did you comment on the wrong post?

The Final Fantasy post is below this one :D
badboy776  +   566d ago
Knew it was true all along.
GamerXD  +   566d ago
Not a downgrade but a trade. More fps, less effects, but personally I prefer more effects than more fps since a solid 30fps is all I want for this game.
imt558  +   566d ago
More effects>>>>fps
As autor said that they prefer effects over fps. Locked 30fps is great!

Anyway. Nice to hear. One qoute from article translated from german to english :

"Ubisoft spricht vollmundig von 1080p bei 60 fps für die Playstation 4 und in der Tat zeigte das Spiel subjektiv kaum Bildrateneinbrüche. Anderseits wären 30 fps und eine höhere Rendering-Qualiät unserer Ansicht nach die bessere Option gewesen, möglicherweise hätte Ubisoft dann aber bei der Xbox One zu viele Abstriche machen müssen.

Ubisoft are speaking wholehearted about 1080p and 60 fps for the playstation 4 and infact the game subjectively barely drops in terms of framerate.
On the other Hand 30 fps an a better Rendering Quality would be the better Option in our books. But maybe then Ubisoft would have been PRESSED TO MAKE SACRIFICIES FOR THE XBOX ONE VERSION..."
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MasterCornholio  +   566d ago
"On the other Hand 30 fps an a better Rendering Quality would be the better Option in our books. But maybe then Ubisoft would have been PRESSED TO MAKE SACRIFICIES FOR THE XBOX ONE VERSION..."

I hope that isn't true because in a game like this I would prefer a rock solid 30FPS with superior visuals than a variable 60FPS with poorer visuals.
NatureOfLogic_  +   566d ago
I believe Xbox One is holding back the next gen visuals. If PS4 could get the best possible visuals at 900p 30fps. Xbox One would struggle badly to run the game at 679p 20fps. I think the graphics were downgraded because Xbox One can't keep up with PS4 and PC.
Ausbo  +   566d ago

how is Xbox holding the ps4 back when all the ps4 multiplatform look better on ps4. Developers are not going for parity anymore
Volkama  +   566d ago
From the article:
"That said, this comes at a cost, as the build examined seems to have very weak ambient occlusion and visible aliasing. The weak ambient occlusion is especially noticeable at night, during which many objects seem to “float in the air” and several don’t cast shadows. According the preview, textures are also slightly blurry and lack Anistropic Filtering, which is something we already saw in other multiplatform games."

I don't know if Golem are a reputable site, but these observations are pretty disappointing if true. jaggies and blurry textures do more harm than a 30fps frame rate would (not that the trade is necessarily that simple).

Didn't Thief lack Anistropic filtering on the PS4 as well? That's a strange ommision as it isn't particularly demanding.

One thing I know: Digital Foundry are going to have a hot topic on their hands with this one.
Neonridr  +   566d ago
@argumentum - 679p?

lol, did you just pull that number out of a hat?
Omegasyde  +   566d ago
Depends on the game.

I think racers,shooters, and fighters should go more for frames per second.

With a high fps for races, there is more sense of speed.

With a high fps for fights, there is more motion and more animations

With a high fps for first person shooters, there is more motion, and the game feels more responsive.

Everything else including 3d platformers/action games are fine at 30. Angrybirds does not need to be 60 frames per second.
Magicite  +   566d ago
Ladies and gentleman, worlds most powerful console!
XiSasukeUchiha  +   566d ago
shadyiswin  +   566d ago
with no games to show it.
SniperControl  +   566d ago

Right, like the x1 is heaving with a ton of games........ Oh wait
Braid  +   566d ago
Here's a rough translation of the related part from the original article as far as I could understand with my German from high school:

"Ubisofts speaks highly of Playstation 4's 1080p with 60 fps, and in fact showed the game at those settings with no frame-rate dips. In any case, we think 30 frames per second with higher rendering quality would be a better option, and perhaps Ubisoft could do that but then they would have to make too many compromises for the Xbox One version."
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3-4-5  +   566d ago
What really matters though:

Is the game fun ?
killzone619  +   566d ago
typical PC gamer. mad because the ps4 is attempting to make 1080/60fps the standard.

you feel threatened? lmao
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TAURUS-555  +   565d ago
xbox1 RIP
DarkLordMalik  +   566d ago
I honestly don't believe it. If this was true, Sony wouldn't have removed the listing.
Abriael  +   566d ago
Considering the Killzone mishap, if the framerate is not locked at 60 fps and there are some drops (which I bet my pants there are), I would have removed it too.

Better boast less and not being called a liar later, especially considering how fast some are to call "they lied!"
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sam_job  +   566d ago
i think the truth will only come out via Digital Foudary
OrangePowerz  +   566d ago
Another possibility is that it's marketing text written by Ubi and for some reason they changed it. Maybe MS didn't like it that it sounded like the X1 version is the inferior version. Or to avoid backlash because of some areas that don't run at 60fps constantly and have some dips.
Bundi  +   565d ago
How wrong were you blaming MS for Sony lies?
OrangePowerz  +   565d ago
Sony gets the information from UbiSoft, if they don't know what resokution and framerate their game has it's their problem having bad internal communication.
Bundi  +   565d ago
All that didn't stop you from trying to blame Microsoft for whatever massive fail caused all this at Sony.
markyboy2181  +   566d ago
ubi have confirmed it
GarrusVakarian  +   566d ago
No they haven't. I know what article you are talking about, and trust me, they haven't.

People really need to start reading past the titles of articles.
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TheNotoriousNiceGuy  +   566d ago
Lmao at the people who thought it was 30 fps, they were having orgasms.

Edited: so what happened on the website then
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Abriael  +   566d ago
It's called playing it safe IMHO. Sony probably noticed that it was receiving a ton of attention and removed it to make sure they aren't called liars if the framerate isn't 100% stable.
Bundi  +   565d ago
Looks like they lied about more than frame rate.
mhunterjr  +   566d ago
I don't know. I can't see this game running at 1080p 60fps without some serious trade-offs in other areas... Trade offs that wouldn't be worth it IMO. Hopefully I'm wrong and they pull it off without adversely affecting pixel quality... Or they just leave it at 1080p30fps.

According to this article, the framerate comes at a cost to the image quality. Hopefully this type of decision isn't a by-product of the rampant pixel counting coming from fanatics.
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Volkama  +   566d ago
Well it's a 360 and PS3 game too, perhaps they opted for 60fps first and just held back a bit when prettying it up to keep that target. Certainly an interesting choice after all the "downgrade" controversy around the game.

Personally I'd rather see them push the textures/shaders/lighting harder over hitting 60fps, but c'est la vie.

It's on my "maybe purchase" list for now, but my decision certainly doesn't depend on the framerate. If it falls short of expectations it'll just be another reminder that old gen is holding things back.
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mhunterjr  +   566d ago
Perhaps... But it think that would make for a strange design choice for this type of game. I'm sure the majority of the fans of this genre would take the visuals over the framerate.
MrSwankSinatra  +   566d ago
Until i actually see the game running for myself, i'm not believing any of these whole back and forth reports.
Syakinta  +   566d ago
Here we go again... haha.
M-M  +   566d ago
It just doesn't end lol.
nope111  +   566d ago
Enough already. Let's just wait until it releases.
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Bathyj  +   566d ago
The plot rethickens...
GuruMeditation  +   566d ago
As an occasional visitor to the site, it's getting tough to keep track lol
fanboyseverywhere  +   566d ago
I'm pretty sure we'll see 2 more articles debunking and confirming later in the day.
Fishy Fingers  +   566d ago
If it turns out true I'd of probably preferred the extra eye candy, closer to the original E3 trailer at a locked 30fps.
wenaldy  +   566d ago
This is some rollercoaster shit.
DarkLord1003  +   566d ago
Crazy - the game arrives this month and we still don't really know how it plays and looks like in reality... If the review embargo lifts on the same day the game is released I'd be kind of worried..
mike32UK  +   566d ago
Agreed, the PR for this game has been handled terribly!
zagambe  +   566d ago
It's been confirmed by Ubisoft:

Ubisoft spricht vollmundig von 1080p bei 60 fps für die Playstation 4 und in der Tat zeigt das Spiel subjektiv kaum Bildrateneinbrüche.

Translation: Ubisoft openly talks about 1080p at 60fps on Playstation 4 and in fact, the game doesn't show any subjective drops in frame rate.
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LordMe  +   566d ago
I would prefer the extra graphics at 30fps, a game like Watch_Dogs doesn't need 60fps, it's nice but it would be fine at 30.
Immorals  +   566d ago
Every game should do this. (well, games that don't need 60fps)

Scrapping 1080p for improved visuals should happen too.
larrysdirtydrawss  +   566d ago
1080p IS improved visuals
user5669510  +   565d ago
How you get disagrees your right. You could get better gfx effects by lowering res. Pc gamers have been doing this for the longest. I rather have 1080p 60fps than better gfx effects. If I wanted the best gfx I'll get PC vers. This is why consoles won't have standards because its all gfx. Just lke lasti gen with 720p. Its go be there at the start then they gonna lower the res bcausee games become too demanding
Salooh  +   566d ago
Same here , I want wow factor , frame rate don't provide that for me. But whatever i get i will take it. I lowered my expectations for this gen a looooooot. No wow factor a lot like last generations for many reasons like the weaker but cheaper hardware and cross platform releases..etc

I will let the developers prove them selfs this gen. Won't expect anything so that i don't get disappointed..
Xtremist  +   566d ago
This "scottish shower" is a kind offer by Sony and Ubisoft.
Tedakin  +   566d ago
So if true, they got it to 60fps, but traded good graphics. Why does it HAVE TO BE 60? Make it 30 and gorgeous.
beerzombie  +   566d ago
@ ArgumentumAdPopulum; The Xbox one is not holding anything back it is you Sony fans Talking crap about 1080p/60 instead of letting devs just makes the games they want.
You Sony's fans and Sony and the Sony bias media have absolutely ruined this generation and it just started.
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imt558  +   566d ago

Quote :

@ ArgumentumAdPopulum; The Xbox one is not holding anything back it is you Sony fans Talking crap about 1080p/60 instead of letting devs just makes the games they want.
You Sony's fans and Sony and the Sony bias media have absolutely ruined this generation and it just started.

Who started spoke crappy stuff about dGPU, cloud power, eSRAM etc. a year ago? Sony fans? NO! MisterX and his followers? YES! Especially here. Now is hot DX12 and new SDK's and MisterX and his followers just don't give up. Thank God there is no console parity and devs use benefits from stronger console. You, Xbone fans laughed at it that Watch Dogs is NOT 1080p/60fps on PS4 ( maybe at the end probably would be or maybe not - 1080p/30fps is also OK). But ask yourself how Watch Dogs will look on Xbone? Just shut up already.

Game is downgraded since first presentation @E3 2012 if someone does not know.
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Codey47  +   566d ago
"You Sony's fans and Sony and the Sony bias media have absolutely ruined this generation and it just started."

A bit like Xbox 360 users did for years(at N4G).

6 months versus 5 years...stop being so melodramatic and stop playing the victim. Looks like us Sony Ponies have some catching up to do!
SuperBlur  +   566d ago
a little bird is telling me that at the time W_D was shown to us at e3 2012 , we had no idea what the next xbox and ps console would be called

game still looks good on pc
GarrusVakarian  +   566d ago
"You Sony's fans and Sony and the Sony bias media have *absolutely ruined* this generation and it just started."

Haha...what?! Man, that is some extremely exaggerated BS right there. Sure, we have a lot of whiners that act like entitled 1080p 60fps brats, but calling this generation "absolutely ruined" because of them is ridiculous, lmao.
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pwnsause_returns  +   566d ago
They honestly seem to forgot who was running the show last gen with the "biased media"
masheen88  +   566d ago
At least us pc guys have nothing to worry about for once. 1080p 60 fps and max settings.
Eonjay  +   566d ago
Hardware permitting of course.
elhebbo16  +   566d ago
not to mention those glorious nvidia benefits (HBAO+, TXAA).
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Software_Lover  +   566d ago
1200p/1440p and max settings actually.
Kivespussi  +   566d ago
Or up to 4k <3

Oh, consoles...
uth11  +   566d ago
Of course to get that, you'll first need a $400 video card and $2500 4K monitor that you'll throw away in 6 mos for something better.

Oh PC gaming..
Codey47  +   566d ago

You can actually get a 4K monitor for under £$600

Samsung U28D590D
AOC and Dell have some sub £$800 4K monitors too
elhebbo16  +   565d ago
1080p and 4xMSAA for me :(
Xtremist  +   566d ago
Not exactly.. more than 90% of the pc gamers will play WD with ps360 quality of graphics (or slightly better).
TheDevKit  +   566d ago
[Citation needed]
Abriael  +   566d ago
Depending on what PC you have. Bet a LOT won't hold 60 fps stable at max settings.
user5669510  +   565d ago
You mean like if you have a ps4. PS fanboys always make excuses to run from the facts. They forget the ps3 still exist. What percentage of PS fans are going to be playing tis in glorious 720p (if that) not a lot PC gamers are gfx whores like PS fanboys but if we wanted we can easily thrump your so called next gen gfx EASILy
pyramidshead  +   566d ago
Ubi will have to make a statement soon enough. Either that or digital foundry will put this to rest when it's finally released.
Ank666  +   566d ago
This is just too hilarious

Waiting for release to know now
elhebbo16  +   566d ago
Jesus can they already release an official statement? its first yes, than Sony changes they're advertisment to suggest it isn't 60fps, now its yes again. This only making the console look bad.
GarrusVakarian  +   566d ago
This only making Ubisoft's PR look bad.

elhebbo16  +   566d ago
No this only makes CONSOLE's look bad. How do you market your machine as a 1080p/60fps and then dont actually play 1080p/60fps, thats the reason why you see a lot more people jumping ships to PC gaming this generation compared to any other. How is it Ubisoft's fault that under powered systems cant handle there game? The only reason why Ubi is getting all this BS is because people think to highly of there PS4s and X1s.
LightDiego  +   566d ago
They should release a dlc for aditional 30 fps.
candy_mafia  +   566d ago
I'd like an option to switch frame rates if true...

1080p/30fps with full effects ON or 1080p/60fps with some effects OFF.

That way, the gamers personal preference determines the experience ;)
yewles1  +   566d ago
*remembers Battle Arena Toshinden 3 on PS1, cringes*
candy_mafia  +   566d ago
Lool ;)
SonyNGP  +   566d ago
This is stupid. Why the hell aren't the devs saying anything? It'll just make things worse for them if they don't confirm anything :/
brich233  +   566d ago
If they achieved 60fps with no drops on ps4 at 1080p, than im guessing the Xbox one version is 1080p/30fps or 720p/60fps. Hopefully the PC version is optimized because I might be playing that version.
Moncole  +   566d ago
The PC version wont be optimized because it a Ubisoft game.
akurtz  +   566d ago
i doubt its been downgraded from the videos we saw lately (not thaf 2012 trailer). If thats whats being run at 1080/60, then it will be beautiful. Aaagggh
jay2  +   566d ago
I'd loved to have had the 2012 build, if the PC can hit it, I'm changing my pre-order. We'll see.
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