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Submitted by Abriael 132d ago | screenshot

Project CARS PS4 vs PC Ultra, High, Medium, Low Detail: Graphical Qualty Screenshot Analysis

Slightly MAD Studios recently released a batch of PS4 screenshots of the gorgeous Project CARS, and both the PS4 and the PC versions look gorgeous, but obviously the developer had to accept some compromises in order to get a good performance on console.

Many are wondering what PC level of detail the PS4 version compares best to, and today DualShockers analyzed a screenshot n each level of detail compared to the PS4 to answer that question. (PC, Project CARS, PS4)

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The_Infected  +   132d ago
Honestly PS4 is very close to the high settings which is great. Playing thins game at nearly high settings at 1080p 60fps on a $400 PS4 sounds great to me:)
Future_2015  +   132d ago
didn't know the console version is a confirmed 60fps at 1080p, i heard targeting 60fps just like drive club and that turned out to be 30fps
pedrof93  +   132d ago
Drive club is more demanding than this Project Cars, Project Cars aplies the same principle as Forza, which is concentrating the console's power into the cars models, while leaving the rest low rez.

Eg: 2d crowd models in Forza.
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DJMarty  +   132d ago
pedrof93 - X1 will have to have stick men as crowd, otherwise the framerate will be sub Hd & 15-20fps.....lol
vulcanproject  +   132d ago
Not a very good shot to compare though really. The models were always likely to be very similar, and the textures on the models were always likely to be very similar. You can see that the PC on ultra has more polygons on the car models than on 'high' or 'PS4' and finer details with less aliasing around it. Round lights for example, better reflections on the car's floor and front wing although you can't see very well from these angles.

I would say it's a rather flattering shot for lower settings, purposeful of course.

So there isn't much else to compare in that shot. It would be far better to see the game when it is finished from a more gameplay perspective so you can see track detail better, weather effects fully, distance, anti aliasing, framerate in races with a lot of cars going on, anisotropic filtering etc.

PS4 will probably end up something like medium on PC and hopefully a rock solid 60FPS. I suspect it might have variable framerate however.

On PC the difference between medium and high then ultra isn't a lot in static shots, but you can see it easily in motion. Particularly motion blur quality. Anti aliasing also makes a big difference to the overall image quality because some of these tracks have pretty big draw distances.

You don't need a monster PC to manage medium/high on the game really.

Looking forward to the final thing, hope it is very polished.
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aliengmr  +   132d ago
If SM is saying they are supporting Morpheus then has to be 60fps and 1080p. Anything below that and it runs a huge risk of ruining the experience.
voice_of_ reason  +   131d ago
@vulcanproject
Nope. Nope to just about everything you said. Just because it's the internet, you do not get a free pass. To help explain what you sound like, view the link below!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This is you, you're that guy... and no one wants to be that guy.
UltimateMaster  +   131d ago
Is it normal that the low settings actually has the best view of the spectators?
vulcanproject  +   131d ago
@ voice_of_ reason

No to everything you said.

No, no to anyone on the internet that cannot form a coherent reply with their basis for disputing someone else's post.

No, no, no to anyone that links to a youtube video of a terrible film as the basis for their 'reply' which absolutely adds nothing to the discussion or explains why they disagree with the points made.

That unfortunately, is you. Atrocious.

It's fairly clear to any multi celled organism that one shot hardly represents the game's wide range of environments and effects, if you have played it and seen it develop before your very eyes the past 3 years.

Have you? On PC? Did you pay to join up when it was open and give feedback to the developers? Did you see how the game has developed playing most builds the past few years? How it progressed to this point? How the settings alter the game and how it runs on current hardware?

I have.

How much time have you actually had with the game up to this point? No, watching a few youtube videos do not count. Unless you have played it as much as I have, then I do indeed consider myself more qualified to actually talk about it than people that.......haven't.

So try to actually contribute something to a discussion next time. Anything at all would be great....
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dmitrijs88  +   132d ago
I really would love to enjoy this game on my pc with ultra settings, but Im afraid it will be cheaper to buy PS4 than upgrade my pc.
guitarded77  +   132d ago
Most likely. But hey... you'll get all them Sony exclusives too. Plus you'll still have a PC.
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AndrewLB  +   131d ago
You can buy a GTX 770 (same as GTX 680 but with higher clocks) for less than a PS4 by A LOT. Current price for that GTX 770 in the U.S. is $289 at Newegg. And it's got just over TWICE the processing power as a PS4.

Now keep in mind that due to both Xbone and PS4 basically using PC hardware, x86 architecture, etc... these consoles are going to be much easier than previous consoles to make an emulator for. And best of all, because the hardware is so similar, you wont need massively more powerful hardware to run an emulator since it's not having to virtualize the entire workings of a dissimilar machine.

Anyone remember E3 last year when Sony was running games on high end PC's? Emulating the PS4 and xBone will be far easier than PS3 or 360.
voice_of_ reason  +   131d ago
@AndrewLB
"Now keep in mind that due to both Xbone and PS4 basically using PC hardware, x86 architecture, etc... "
Basically? Are you stupid? It is all "pc hardware". The engineers were not like, "hmmm, let's throw in a cat-faced pasta noodle next to that non-pc hardware like cpu thing..." If you are or have ever though about suicide. Do it. The world need less stupid people!
r2oB  +   131d ago
@ andrewlb

How do you know his current setup? You speak as if the only thing that needs to be done to a PC is upgrade the GPU and all is well. What if his computer is older and he needs to upgrade his CPU also, to prevent bottlenecks. Or maybe his PSU is also old and he needs to update it so that it outputs enough power to run the components. What about RAM? Maybe a better cooling system because his PC may generate more heat than before. Sometimes it's not always as simple as "let's just upgrade the GPU, forever, while not upgrading anything else, ever". Have you tried factoring in those potential costs compared to a $400 console?
frostypants  +   131d ago
@AndrewLB: "You can buy a GTX 770 (same as GTX 680 but with higher clocks) for less than a PS4 by A LOT. Current price for that GTX 770 in the U.S. is $289 at Newegg. And it's got just over TWICE the processing power as a PS4. "

Uh...you're comparing the cost of the entire PS4 system to the cost of a single video card. That is completely invalid. You forgot the rest of the necessary PC hardware. HDD/SSD, optical drive, memory, CPU, mobo, case, power supply. And no, you can't just buy that video card and drop it into the crappy PC you bought from Dell 4 years ago and expect it to perform, if that's what you wanted to imply.
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Geekman  +   132d ago
Well, racing games are easier to make look good graphically, because they have the less stuff in them. This is why Driveclub, Project Cars, and Mario Kart 8 are tge best looking games this gen. (So far.)
souga_houjou_jin  +   132d ago
mario kart ? seriously ? lol
Geekman  +   132d ago
Souga, Mario Kart 8 is pretty graphically impressive for the hardware it's on. (1080p) But I guess you abide by the Gamers Creed. "Everything I don't like is Gay."
JetsFool3500  +   132d ago
Lmfaooooooooooo mario kart? Really?
thereapersson  +   132d ago
Funny enough, Mario Kart 64 has been the game my friends and I have been playing most often as of late.
imt558  +   132d ago
@Geekman

Souga, Mario Kart 8 is pretty graphically impressive for the hardware it's on. (1080p)

Mario Kart is 720p/60fps. It is upscaled to 1080p.
Benchm4rk  +   131d ago
@imt588

"Mario Kart is 720p/60fps. It is upscaled to 1080p"

WRONG

http://mynintendonews.com/2...
frostypants  +   131d ago
Mario Kart 8 is pretty ugly, man.
Consoleslateagain  +   132d ago
It is? Looks like its close to med or just below it. Im use to seeing details in games and it easy to see. Low have better shadows and reflections than ps4 idk why tho. Wtf is that on the bottom half of the car on the ps4 version. Looks like this game is going to be on med settings on consoles.
MYDEATH21  +   132d ago
I need a new racing game. Honestly haven't really enjoyed one since I played most wanted on the ps2. I miss the split screen experiences as well.
ATi_Elite  +   132d ago
you have to see this game in motion to appreciate it more.

I don't care about background especially when those assets are being put to use by way of Physics and Destruction.

People wanna compare Pcars to ForZa or Driveclub!

Well I say where is Driveclubs Real time Physics and Destruction?

I'll take real time Destruction and aerodynamics over animated crowds 365/24/7/

Project Cars....Simply the BEST!
UltraNova  +   132d ago
This is a case of a developer not being thorough enough.

On PC there's no excuse not having both fully animated crowds and super detailed car models and tracks, since PC gaming is for the seemingly unlimited potential.

I mean just look at the ultra screenshot. 2d cardboard crowds? In 2014, on a maxed PC?

NO.

OT: The game despite its obvious hiccups ^^ looks like serious competition to Driveclub (for ps4 owners obviously)although they are pretty different to start with.

I wonder how will Polyphony react to this. Time to evolve?
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Volkama  +   131d ago
Visual comparisons are fine, but looking at direct feedback from the PC crowd playing the game, Project Cars has some real issues around it's handling and physics.

Asseto Corsa seems to be the people's choice for PC sim racing.
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specialguest  +   132d ago
Its not that close to high settings. If you click on the ps4 image and look at the fenders and tires, it clearly shows the unmistakable difference. Notice how the colors on the fender doesnt fade in a gradient level smoothly. The tire color/shadow is almost vector style instead of blending and fading in colors. Even the low setting does a better job.
OWWO  +   132d ago
u must be joking. ps4 is comparable to mid settings.ps4 is great console but please dont lie
GribbleGrunger  +   132d ago
Get your microscopes out chaps.
Abriael  +   132d ago
Lol yeah, you really gotta squint, the only one that has very evident differences is "low" the rest is a matter of small details.

The low resolution normal maps smudge things a little bit on PS4, but in motion they're much harder to notice, I'm sure.
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randomass171  +   132d ago
Funny you say, despite the lack of blur and the ugliness of the crowd, the car itself still looks pretty dang good on low settings.
Abriael  +   132d ago
Just added a note on that one. The lack of blur is just because I forgot to activate it (I put it in all of the other screenshots because it was in the PS4 screenshot as well). It's just an instant photographic effect you activate and deactivate with F3, and it's not part of the settings themselves. You also won't use it while racing because it's so heavy that you won't see where you're going :D
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mikeslemonade  +   132d ago
still you still had have to project this on your big screen tv. anything looks good on a 3 by 4 inch screen.
randomass171  +   132d ago
Dang, that's quite a lot of detail. o.o I must say my curiosity for this game is peaking.
Consoleslateagain  +   132d ago
Dont need one easy to see somethings wrong in the ps4 pic. The bottom half of the car looks messed up. Shadows and reflections look hhorrible. AA is also not up to par with med
ATi_Elite  +   132d ago
you don't need a microscope to see all that aliasing in the pics lower than PC High!

Polygon count is lower along with faded colors and blurry crowds.

YES the car does look FANTASTIC throughout but a lot of other graphical degradation appears as the quality goes down and this will translate HEAVILY when in action as a screenshot does not fully capture the beauty of Pcars.

I'm currently playing Pcars build 680 across 3 1600p monitors so feel free to argue.
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toddybad  +   132d ago
I could hardly spot a difference between any of them without really focusing on minutae - minutae that won't be visible when you're hurling around a track.
uth11  +   132d ago
Except for the PC Low, which looks a little flatter, but still good, I honestly can't see the difference in these screenshots.

Considering that it's fast motion anyway, I don't think anyone will notice a difference in real world gameplay
frostypants  +   131d ago
These guys did a real good job with the visuals and getting them to run on reasonable hardware, that much is certain. I was a huge skeptic but I take it all back.
hollabox  +   132d ago
This looks good, but I'm going to stick to more arcade style racing games. If I was to pick this game up, it would probably be on the PC when the price drops to $19.99 or less during Black Friday a year from now.
Abriael  +   132d ago
Actually Project CARS has very extensive levels of customization for simulation. It can drive almost like Need for Speed if you set it the right way :D
randomass171  +   132d ago
Now that's flippin' awesome.
hollabox  +   132d ago
Hmm, I will have to wait to see, all the videos I've seen I'm impressed with the graphics but it looks boring. I've purchased almost every Grand Turismo, after 5, I said I'm done. They look good but I find myself ultimately looking for enjoyment elsewhere.
dale1  +   132d ago
is xbox not getting this?
Idba  +   132d ago
The game is coming to xbox, but so far only ps4 footage has been shown(along with pc ofc)
Guwapo77  +   132d ago
It appears the PS4's screen shot isn't like the others. Where is the grey part in the stands? Was it too much for the PS4 to include and they omitted it to have more power to render the car?

Just a question.
uth11  +   132d ago
Looks like the PS4 shot wasn't captured at the exact same moment in the game. You can see the exit from the stands which is obscured in the others
Guwapo77  +   132d ago
Upon further examination none of the screen shots are the same. With today's video capturing techniques I would have had gotten the same frame to compare against all 4 screen shots, it makes it a lot easier to compare and contrast.

All of these look really good regardless the setting.
yezz  +   132d ago
I like these comparisons that also include other setting from PC. Not just your usual Ultra vs Console..
mysteryraz11  +   132d ago
Theres barely any difference, you cant tell at all
frostypants  +   131d ago
I would wager that the biggest differences are in lighting and anti-aliasing, which are hard to judge by these shots.
spence52490  +   132d ago
Why do people still do these "lets compare still images of a game to see how they differ" thing. You don't rate the performance of a car on how well it can sit in the parking lot. If your going to have a comparison we need videos to see how everything looks while it's running.
Idba  +   132d ago
they do them because they dont have the proper footage to do a comparison yet, and pictures have way more detail than youtube vids
captain_slow82  +   132d ago
from screenshots i really carnt tell the diff so as always its ps4 for me :D
Si-Fly  +   132d ago
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jay2  +   132d ago
Slightly below High, but I'll be playing PC, ultra.
F4sterTh4nFTL  +   132d ago
PC Ultra awaits me.
D3ATH_DRIV3R_777  +   132d ago
The PS4 version looks a tad bit dark, but other than that, both PC and PS4 looks amazing.
pennywhyz  +   132d ago
+1 for me PC is always the better with Gfx and Fps.
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bleedsoe9mm  +   132d ago
have to wait too see it running ,if the ps4 version 60FPs and 1080p , its not enough difference too matter to me .
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kingduqc  +   132d ago
So ps4 = medium? If you look at ground textures medium on pc is better but ps4 got more AA.

What I expected
adventureghost124  +   132d ago
from what I can see PS4 is on par with PC high and Ultra is slightly better
kingPoS  +   132d ago
Any word on what kind of wheel support it will offer?

Gateway MT6706 2008
Si-Fly  +   132d ago
I play pCARS using a 780ti and the thing that cripples performance even at 1080p is the number of AI and weather settings. I'll be astonished if the PS4 version manages over 30fps with rain and a grid of 16 cars.
GraphicX  +   132d ago
viewing the screenshots at 100% & counting the number of steps in round objects such as the car headlights/guards, the ps4 version is only marginally better than the pc version on low, but the ps4 version has better anti aliasing (but still not as good as pc on medium).

of course these are only static screenshots & the true quality of each will become apparent only when we can play the game & see how smoothly it runs.
level 360  +   132d ago
I'd still be getting a PS4 version no matter what.

Think it looks mighty impressive on the console version.
windblowsagain  +   132d ago
PS4 Version is on High, not ultra.

I still look the look of this.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Lighting and fx are fantastic.
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numonex360  +   132d ago
The PS4 has better graphics than all PCs released and to be released until 2017. PS4 is way ahead of its time and uses super computer graphical processing powers.
The PS4 has the potential to stay at Ultra/High PC settings its entire life span.
mixelon  +   131d ago
Trolling or insane?
jlo  +   131d ago
Other day goes by, another game I'm going to get on PC instead of PS4

My PS4 is just gathering dust at the moment, it needs games and fast
Milruka  +   131d ago
Ps4 version lacks, detailed reflections, has lower resolution textures, on the road and the car, which is clearly visible. There are noticeable jaggies, as well as lighting issues on the ps4, mainly the shadows, under the car on the ps4 version it goes grey to instant dark, no transition.

Ps4 is more like low/medium settings on the PC version @1080.

People will try and disagree with me, but this is factual, console players don't look at these details that I've pointed out, simply because they've never noticed them before on sub par systems.
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Einhert  +   131d ago
Thing is the only way to experience a sim like project cars is to have a wheel and pedals.

That type of experience is only on PC.

Open source always wins no matter what.
gamingisnotacrime  +   131d ago
the differences in still images are there, no big deal. but in a running game it will be less noticeable. PS4 is performing really good at $399 ready to go box
urwifeminder  +   131d ago
Nice look forward to playing on ultra settings this is why I got my pretty things for this type of action, console version looks ok similar to low settings perfectly playable though.
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