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Watch Dogs PS4 Will Run At 1080p and 60 FPS, Listed In Sony’s Database, Says Sony Customer Service

GearNuke: "Another evidence points towards Watch Dogs running at 1080p and 60 fps on the PS4."

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GarrusVakarian778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

If this is true, then there's no way it will be locked 60fps. It will be variable, like it is on Tomb Raider, Killzone SF and Infamous SS.

Hopefully, Ubisoft give the option to lock it at 30fps for people who don't like variable framerates....assuming this is true anyway, which i doubt it is.

DarkLordMalik778d ago

It is important to mention that the early build of the game, that was shown to the press, was not locked to 30 fps. Although the frame rate was not really stable at that point. I don't think it is locked 60 fps, seems to me it can be unlocked like Tomb Raider: DE.

LoveForGames778d ago

Don't know why... but i prefer the unlocked. Played infamous locked and unlocked and the variable FPS was the most enjoyable.

Meltic778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

well i Think its 60 fps beacuse the Graphics on this game is good. So a lock on 30 fps wouldnt be good. But by the other hand. If they scaled the Graphics down on ps4. A 30 fps would have been perfect. And scale down is not a valid option. 60 fps is more than enough.

Neixus778d ago

Keep in mind that Killzone and Infamous was never advertised as a 60fps game tho. But I'll think it stay closer to Tomb raider. Generally 55-60 fps, with some drops when alot of stuff happen

Volkama778d ago

Kinda hope it's not 60. Only because I can't see this cross-gen multiplat game out-doing infamous, so if it is 60 it will surely be at the expense of visual fidelity elsewhere.

ArchangelMike778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

@Lukas,

Whats the deal with wanting it to be unlocked at 60FPS. Surely having it locked down prevents stuttering frames rates during gameplay. If Ubi have managed to get the game running 1080p 60fps, then why lave it unlocked just so the frame rate can dip. What am I missing here?

@Volkman
If Ubisoft have got the game running at 1080p 60fps, how is that a loss in visual fidelity? Again what am I missing here, isn't 1080p 60fps the 'holy grail' of console visual fidelity?

rainslacker778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

You might be right. But occlusion culling can work wonders. Being in a city with skyscrapers means the draw distance can be limited. I've seen some scenes that show more of the city at once, but most of the actual game play seems to be in areas where much of the view is blocked off.

Not saying it's the case, just theorizing.

@Mike

If they locked the frame rate and resolution, they may have to lower the polys, textures or rendering effects to keep it locked, thus lowering visual fidelity. Ryse for instance used a lower resolution to maintain the look of the game that Crytek wanted. Again, not saying that's the case with WD though.

Army_of_Darkness778d ago

When it's 1080p @60fps, people complain about downgraded graphics... When it's 1080p @30fps people complain about it not being 60fps... Come on! Just enjoy the Damn game for what it is already, gezz...

Ipunchbabiesforfun778d ago

"well i Think its 60 fps beacuse the Graphics on this game is good. So a lock on 30 fps wouldnt be good. But by the other hand. If they scaled the Graphics down on ps4. A 30 fps would have been perfect. And scale down is not a valid option. 60 fps is more than enough."

meltic, I'm not going to lie...I don't have a single clue what the hell you're trying to say. I read this at least 5 times and I'm lost.

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mogwaii778d ago

I dont see the problem with a variable frame rate as long as it dosnt drop too far below 30, then its really noticable. us console gamers are just so used to 30fps i guess.

osprey19778d ago

@archangelmike

no 1080p is not a holy grail of the visuals of the game, lighting, shading, aesthetics and the game engine matter alot more than resolution.

randomass171778d ago

Wonderful news if true, but I agree, it probably won't be stable. Ubisoft is skilled but not THAT skilled.

MYDEATH21777d ago

Just give me the option to lock it at 30. I mean, if it could handle explosions and chaotic scenes without dropping badly it would be amazing. But if jumps and falls like crazy I would want it locked

UltraNova777d ago

Remember all those zombie apocalypse movies where no one knows what causes the outbreak except for the obvious virus infection?

Well the ‘Bitching Virus’ has overtaken N4G and its spreading at 30fps, for now with a slight chance to 60fps!

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The_Infected778d ago

We know it's not 60fps locked. I don't care I enjoyed Tomb Raider: DE. I also tried the 30fps lock with Infamous and I still played unlocked.

GarrusVakarian778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

I too tried Infamous SS with the 30fps lock, and Killzone SF, but i turned it off and went back to playing unlocked. I much preferred it, Infamous especially feels much better to play when it's not locked to 30fps.

If WD turns out to be unlocked 60fps, it's fine with me. Although, I still think they should provide an option for people who don't like it.

candy_mafia778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

Unlocked totally feels better in my experience with the PS4 games I've played, that have the option.

I don't believe it's 60fps locked, but if Watchdogs runs between 45-60fps?, I would really be extremely impressed! :)

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randomass171778d ago

Have they stated if TLOU Remasterd is locked at 60fps?

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ramiuk1778d ago

if it is,WELL DONE UBI.

just hope the trend of making most of each consoel carrys on throughout.

im a ps4 gamer but i hope that dx12 helps MS with there current display issues

THamm778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This game did it, why couldn't Watch_Dogs
Lots of stuff going on in many of those scenes

randomass171778d ago

Ground Zeroes isn't as big as the city in Watch Dogs I guess.

LetoAtreides82777d ago

You're comparing a secluded detainment camp with a simulation of Chicago? I love Ground Zeroes but to think that just because GZ was able to do 60fps locked that WD will be able to do it too is ridiculous.

Clearly these Sony customer service reps don't know what they're talking about and it's not the first time they posted incorrect information on their website. Most likely WD on the PS4 will run 1080p with unlocked framerate, sometimes hitting 60 and sometimes going as low as the 20s.

If the Xbone can do this game in 1080p native I'd be extremely surprised. And whatever resolution it ends up with I expect the framerate would dive to the single digits quite often. This game requires a hefty system, Xbone isn't cutting it.

Sci0n778d ago

If true it would be a amazing feat in itself to hit a full 1080p 60fps in a open world game so early in the consoles life cycle.

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aquamala777d ago

if true, 60 fps is a must, you can see a huge difference

if false, you don't need more than 30 fps for this type of game, 30 fps is fine

lol

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brich233778d ago

It wont be so dont buy it.

randomass171778d ago

Not the greatest reason not to buy a game to be fair.

pyramidshead778d ago

I doubt it will be. Either features were cut back to get this gain or some cheeky PS4 hardware customisations are being abused if it turns out to be true.
Not hopeful though.

MaxwellBuddha777d ago

"better be locked 60fps"

If the framerate is not locked, then it is not 60 frames-per-second. PERIOD. The rest of the world calls that a "variable framerate".

MysticStrummer777d ago

Oh damn, if what the rest of the world thinks matters then MS might as well scrap the XB1 right now.

iistuii778d ago

They wouldn't have this problem if they made the console just that little bit more powerful. Don't try & tell me the dev's choose to make it either 30 or 60, the fact is if they could just make it 1080/60 which should be standard in 2014, they would.

Bathyj778d ago

Actually it's always going to be up to devs where they spend their power. Every single game could be [email protected] if they downgraded the graphics to get it. It's up to devs how far they push the effects and what rez and framerate they settle on.

iistuii778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

Yeah, if they downgraded the graphics. That's my point. Games like SS & Killzone would have been a steady 60fps with those amazing graphics IF the console was a tad more powerful, without having to downgrade anything.
People come on this site every day talking about 1080/60. Every day there's talk of it. I've been playing 1080/60 on PC for years & although it enjoy the great games on my PS4 it is a fact that it can't do these high graphical games at both 1080/60. Take B4, why do you think it's running at 900/60, it's because with the graphics they want to produce on the console hasn't the power to hit that magic 1080/60.

yezz778d ago

@iistuii

That would mean the machine would cost more which probably wasn't an option for Sony. PS4 is not a high end gaming machine like your expensive PC.. People keep talking about how 60fps should be the standard but the thing is that games are constantly evolving and they need more and more power.

If the PS4 would be a little more powerful you would still be here complaining in few years because the games need even more power to hit 1080p/60fps and it couldn't handle it with "high graphic settings"..

iistuii778d ago

@yezz
Yeah I agree we will always want more, I also agree that they wanted to keep the price down. But that's not my point. My point that nobody seems to accept is it can't do a smooth 1080/60 on high graphical games & no matter how many times people disagree it's a fact. People are disagreeing & making the price or other arguments, but if people didn't want 1080/60 they wouldn't keep coming into forums in hope they will get it.
Anyone can look at my gamertag. I have played & completed nearly every PS4 game that's been released, I'm just not blind to facts.

THamm778d ago

MGS GZ had amazing graphics and achieved this. So how do you guys figure the machine has to be more powerful?

beerzombie778d ago

that's why crying that one can not do 1080p/60 is false. Its up to the dev. to use their best judgment to make the best game for each platform from 3ds all the way up to cpu's.

rainslacker778d ago

I've been playing great games for years, and the resolution and frame rate was never really a consideration. The only time it was bothersome was when the frame rate would stutter in a couple games here and there.

This whole resolution/FR thing is getting boring. So far I haven't been disappointed in any game's graphics, and while i know it won't match up to PC, I know that games will continue to look good, and hopefully play good.

I wouldn't have minded if both systems packed in more power, but we got what we got, and so long as the games for these consoles are fun, I'll continue to buy them.

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WalterWJR778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

A tad more powerful? To maintain 60fps in killzone and infamous at all times you would need 2x power. Do you think that's worth the money for the masses?

WalterWJR778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

Disagrees from geniuses lol. How do you think you go from 30 fps to 60fps??? You need TWICE the power.

Notice how I said locked 60fps "at all times", considering these game can drop to the low 30's.

beerzombie778d ago

That's the problem with high-end PC gamming it's all ways "a tad bit more". I used to play that game along time ago, then Xbox came out and I said close enough. with out all the time and money and still Fps to boot.
Console gamming is just about gamming find the platform you want to support and plug and play. A lot of PC elitist think its just stupid people not wanting to learn or know how but its just smart people who want to game and not worry about up grading drivers or tinker with a pc.

Ninjatogo778d ago

It's not quite as simple as you seem to think. How would Sony build a machine that could run everything at 1080P/60 without knowing the kind of requirements each game would demand? How would they set the baseline for the hardware specs?
Let's say they included a GTX 680. Don't you think some developers would use that power for even more effects rather than frame rate and resolution?

It's ALWAYS up to the developers on what frame rate/resolution they want to push.

solar778d ago

i believe what the OP is saying is it shouldnt have to be a decision. the power should be there to do it. and i agree with him. 1080p/60fps has been a standard on PC for years now. these new consoles are not next gen. just a half gen.

beerzombie778d ago

Plus what ever they built it would all ways need more power because devs would push the technology.

Myze778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

beerzombie is absolutely correct. No matter how powerful the ps4 was, most devs would always sacrifice 60fps for higher graphics. It's the reason the ps3/360 games didn't look like ps2/xbox games but with 60fps instead of 30fps, and it will be the same with ps4/xbone.

Regardless of what people here want to believe, the average gamer will be more impressed by flashier better graphics than they will be by a higher framerate (when it comes to aesthetics), which results in more sales.

As for the story, I'm of the camp that believes this is probably unlocked 60fps (locked would be nice). I don't have a problem with this as long as they have some form of vertical sync or something to stop it from going over 60 and cause screen-tearing. Unlocked will worked best if it can stay at 60 most of the time, of course. If it's usually running closer to 30, it would probably be best to lock it at 30.

GameDev1778d ago

@Thamm

I don't know why you got disagrees, but you are partly right, Ground Zero graphics fidelity was visually great, big open world, although just a prologue. If it can achieve 1080P 60fps on the PS4 i don't see why Watch dogs can't even with unlocked framerate

LetoAtreides82777d ago

I have news for you, your PC isn't going to be running this game at a locked 60fps much less anything higher than that. If you're expecting locked 60fps on at least 1080p resolution, if it's even possible with today's graphics cards which I'm doubting, you're going to need a brand spanking new graphics card, but you PC guys are used to upgrading aren't ya?

iistuii777d ago

Of course it will. It's just a case of if they have the game optimized. I have only 1 game that struggles on ultra settings on my PC & that's Arma3/DayZ because its a shit engine, everything else is maxed out.

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Bathyj778d ago

Interesting, I wonder if they're just repeating the same information or if it's further proof it's true.

beatled778d ago

the real question is.... is it NATIVE 1080p or some trashy upscale like shadowfall mp?

(love kz sf btw, just that the multiplayer is low res, would rather it been locked 30 frames and native 1080p)

imt558778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

There is NO UPSCALING in KZ MP, dude. How work "temporal reprojection" in KZ's MP ( read this or stay stupid ) :

http://www.killzone.com/en_...

And....no more bubbles! :)

Volkama778d ago

That's upscaling. Seriously, half the pixels are the result of an upscaling algorhythm.

Did you know when a sony tv upscales a lower resolution image it uses 4 algorhythms including a temporal calculation like that in killzone? It also has a database of images and textures that it references in order to add detail that is not included in the native image.

Upscaling can be quite fancy, but it is still upscaling.

mike32UK778d ago

It's funny how not a single person mentioned that KZ:shadow fall MP looked any different to the Single Player until it was actually acknowledged about the different resolution method... I still can't see any difference

MasterCornholio778d ago

What's funny is that Digital Foundary didn't notice that until several months after launch.

GarrusVakarian778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

"not a single person"

I'm not sure what websites you were visiting around the time of KZ's launch, but i saw people all over the internet, on multiple gaming forums question why the MP looked blurrier than the SP. Anyone who can easily tell the difference between resolutions could instantly tell that the MP didn't look the same as the SP, but nobody knew why exactly due to us being told it was 1080p.

grassyknoll778d ago

Lots of people thought the multiplayer had terrible post processing. I could tell the difference in single & multiplayer at a glance.

mike32UK778d ago

That was because of the overstated motion blur, which has since been fixed.

GarrusVakarian778d ago

"That was because of the overstated motion blur, which has since been fixed."

I'm not talking about it looking blurry in motion due to motion blur, i was talking about the image quality. It was obvious to many people that the image itself didn't look as sharp or as crisp as the SP did.

Now we know why.

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MasterCornholio778d ago

The PS4 isn't infamous for trashy upscaled games. As far as I know most PS4 games run in native 1080P and they dont suffer the effects of a terrible upscaler like crushed blacks for example.

I haven't played any sub 1080P games yet though so I really can't tell you what a 900P PS4 game looks like from my personal experience. I only made this conclusion based on some of the comparisons of BF4.

DrJones778d ago

BF4 looks great on the PS4. I think it looks really sharp.

MrSwankSinatra778d ago

Shadowfall does not have an upscaled image, you really need to do you're research.

Volkama778d ago (Edited 778d ago )

Sony could tell you gullible was removed from the English dictionary and you'd preach it.

Incidentally, Ryse doesn't use the GPU scaler either. It's a 1080p frame, the pixels are calculated software side. That's why it never suffered the over-sharpening in other One games. Is Ryse native 1080p too?

MrSwankSinatra778d ago

@Volkama I'm the one that's gullible yet you preach about microsoft's cloud. The irony...

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