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Xbox One Effectively Has A "Super-Computer Design,"Says Xbox's Director Of Development Boyd Multerer

GearNuke: "The Xbox One might have a weaker hardware compared to the PlayStation 4, but according to the Xbox's director of development, Boyd Multerer, the design of Xbox One is effectively a "Super-Computer Design," and it will allow the developers to squeeze more performance out of the Xbox One with time."

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jay2806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Really................. Don't think so, your hardware is weaker than PS4. I don't have any issue with my PS4 Framerate, let's see your games BEAT framerate and res of PS4 MP games then....

Septic806d ago

Just because its weaker than the PS4 doesn't mean it doesn't have super computer design....it just means that the PS4 has ULTRA COMPUTER DESIGN

DarkLordMalik806d ago

Well said, lol.

Bubbled up for "Funny"

christocolus806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

“He compares this hardware design to a “Super-Computer Design” and ensures that we should expect to see “fairly large improvements in GPU output” in the near future.“

They should have gone with efficiency from the very start imo..developers shouldn't have to go through too long a process to better understand new hardware....but anyway as long as xbox fans keep seeing titles as good looking as ryse , quantum break and sunset overdrive I'm sure theyll be okay and have nothing to worry about.it will only get better....with time. :D.

That said today being 10th puts E3 just about 4weeks away.yaay.

AsimLeonheart806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Microsoft should stop running their mouths by now. Bury the issue; it is over now. Everybody knows that it is weaker than PS4. They should just be honest and admit it instead of spinning it even after six months of release. Just focus on providing quality games. Having the weaker console is not the end for them. Every time people start forgetting about the resolutiongate and power difference between the two consoles, Microsoft open their mouths and humiliate themselves once more.

forcefullpower806d ago

Let them run their mouths of its great for funny news and comical comment sections. just gives them a worse reputation than they already have.

Mr Pumblechook806d ago

A 'super computer design' sounds fantastic.
Just wait until they release DirectX 12, 'squeeze more power out of the system' use the 'power of the cloud' and add some of that 'secret sauce' and the Xbone will obliterate the competition. ;)

husomc806d ago

even ps2 has a super computer design

truefan1806d ago TrollingShow
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dantesparda806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Such PR/marketing nonsense. But watch the fanboys eat it up, like the suckers they are. Sony claimed the same thing about the PS3 and the PS2. It's all hyperbole and bullsh1t. But i digress cuz the suckers/fanboys will fall for it and spew it back at ad nauseam. Well for a so called super computer design it sure is weak. The PS4 is more powerful than it, and just about any PC for around $500+ is more powerful than it.

And man is truefan delusional,...pathetic

GarrusVakarian806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

I think some people are confusing 'design', with 'capabilities'.

Silly geese.

@truefan

If you really believe either console has been maxed out yet, you are deluded. Stop spewing that BS everywhere. 50% more power does not result in a %50 difference in graphics, google 'dimishing returns'. Also, 30fps for those games you mentioned doesn't mean the PS4 is maxed out, lmao, it means the devs chose 30fps with extra graphical quality > 60fps...like they other devs did with games like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive. 30fps allows for better graphics, any game can run at 60fps if the graphics/effects are toned down enough.

amiga-man806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

I accidently agreed with Truefan I feel so dirty now.

M$ could feed Truefan anything if they said they have alien technology in the xone and he would eat it up, truefanboy would be a more suitable name

Pogmathoin806d ago

I love those who do there best to articulate a good credible comment, then end it with the $ somewhere with M$..... All that good work gone as you just provec yourself as a smartass fanboy troll..... Look at Lukas, he never does that, fair play, but others...... Troll....

rainslacker806d ago

How could either system be maxed out yet when they both have parts of their system locked away from developer use for possible future use in the OS? Neither company wants to be in a position of not being able to update with a new feature like Sony got stuck with last gen with cross-game chat.

Anyhow, every big game developers make is going to max out the system. They use every bit of power they can get. Doesn't mean they don't get better at utilizing that power over time. Truefan, you should be well aware of this principal since you go on about DX12 all the time.

MysticStrummer806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Yup if XB1 is a supercomputer then PS4 is alien technology and the highest end gaming PCs are from another dimension entirely.

Edit - lol Just saw what truefan said. Holy mackerel, the Farce is strong with that one.

badboy776806d ago

"Says Xbox's Director Of Development Boyd Multerer"

Lolllllllllllllllllllllllll

SniperControl806d ago

@truefan1

"Say what you want, but the ps4 is already getting maxed out"

You must be a comedian right?.......right?.....you have to be? just tell you are......right?.....
Where is your show, i want to see your act.

MonstaTruk806d ago

@ Septic

You're right, but if I'm comparing it to the competition (PS4), with higher-grade hardware & lower price, "super computer" or not, the PS4 is gonna be +1, THE WHOLE GENERATION. Who buys weaker for 25% more? And for what? More Halo? :-/

MYDEATH21806d ago

I don't care if it can fly itself to space while I'm at work. it just needs play my games when I want.

Dannylew806d ago

Absolutely non sense... if Xbox One have a super computer design.. take a look at PS3 "Cell Architecture"

Microsoft is desperate... no way for xbox one to compete with ps4 hardware design. "in most cases also PC's" no one have a GDDR5 Unified Memory.
the new Apple MacPro "top of the line @ 11k Dollars" have a maximum of 60gb/s of bandwidth.

ps4 192 "218 with latest optimizations"

melrex806d ago

Lol i see what you did there

Legendary-Status806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Umm..smh..I sware this article comes off so wrong in word's that is..like ok a Super PC Design..really? The PS3 was already that I guess..claim to be a Super PC lol..so I guess I agree with Septic the PS4 has to be an ULTRA PC then lol really?? Funny stuff.. idk what truefan is rambling about the PS4 can upgrade just as much as the X1 lol and u said Halo..meet Uncharted4, GOW4 & The Last Gaurdian these games will show u the true Power of the PS4 and you kno what im not BS! What? Sunset Overdrive if thats your best then might as well wait for XBOX TWO in 2021 lol

choujij806d ago

I can't stand MS' BS. Even on their xbox.com site, they say their cpu + gpu + esram is like having a Supercomputer in your living-room.

That's as ridiculous as saying this Tyco RC toy car is as powerful as a Supercar. They must take their customers for idiots.

GribbleGrunger806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

@truefan1:

I said months ago that MS should stop with these comments and here's a perfect example why. Every time they do this they feed nonsense to their fans and make them look silly on forums, and every time they do this they cement the notion that the PS4 is more powerful because the discussion then turns to facts.

They need to shut up and show games. They are shooting themselves in the foot every God damn time. MisterX is doing exactly the same thing. If you agree with MS then NEVER complain when articles pop up regularly that the framerate/resolution on PS4 games are better overall. The only reason those articles have any relevance is because MS keep spouting this BS.

Everyone was discussing Sunset Overdrive the other day but here we are once again having to explain why the XB1 will never be as powerful as the PS4. Microsoft's PR is just plain awful.

gigoran806d ago

man I love to agree votes you racked up there. It is true. PS4 1 ups xbone in every way.

Charybdis806d ago

Super computers have been around since the 60s. Design wise xb1 reference might refer to centralization trend with regards to the cloud and the importance of moving data around.

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Sitdown806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

@jay2
This is one of those times where the article title is not even misleading, so without reading the article, you could make an appropriate conclusion..... But instead, your fanboy tinted glasses prevented you from doing such. The theme here is design... Not the raw power of hardware used.

christocolus806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

I thought i was the only one who noticed that too. The guy was talking about so much more than power but heck..who cares?why are you actually bothered about what these guys have to say?

It does exactly what I expect from a next gen console..fun gaming, media, multitasking and super online..the games out also look and play great and those coming down the line look even better. I just wish devs wouldn't have to take so long to master the hardware though.

redwin806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

I noticed it, he didn't read the article. It's like comparing a mustang GT to a lotus Elise, the mustang is faster but the Elise is more about performance and design. I have both systems and I understand what they mean about smooth frame rate. Maybe there is something to what ms said about the sera having to be constantly feed so it can perform well. All I know is that in a few years we'll look back at now and laugh about it.

MysticStrummer806d ago

So I guess just about every console ever made had a super computer design, because most had better performance over time.

Legendary-Status806d ago

But truefan has everything mess up talking about PS4maxing out?? Lol well X1 looks maxout already..whos trying to update get system optimization etc.so forward Lol the X1 is playing catch up when shud came as you said from the jump..this what you get when you rush..this aint 2005 with your lil one year head start face me straight up lol

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Matt666806d ago

I don't have any issues with my frame rate on the PS4 or Xbox One

THamm806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Nice

killzone619806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

well tbh the framerate on ps4 currently isnt smooth.

knack drops as low as 14fps and killzone SF MP framerate is pretty horrible.

Angels3785806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Don't you mean Ryse? Because there is actual proof to back up that it drops to as low as 14 fps. Killzone and knack have ZERO proof of bad frame rates only varying frame rates from 30-60. Which is in no way bad.

You have said on numerous occasions you don't have a ps4

Also in every performance video killzone AND knack have never dropped below 30. EVER

CHECK DIGITAL FOUNDRY.

I know it's fun to say stuff and feel like it's true so you feel better about your opinion. But just because you twist your reality doesn't mean it makes it everyone else's reality.

Also everyone knows your name is BS.

medman806d ago

A 720p supercomputer.....ok. When will these Microslop bozos stop talking and get to work making better games and actually attaining the hd standard this gen.

generalthadeape806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

As an Xbox One owner and fan, these are the two main things that I'd like to give giant kick in Microsoft's ass to get this sorted out once and for all.

If the hardware performance between the PS4 and the Xbox One weren't so apparent, I literally would have much to complain about the Xbox One at all-- but as it sits right now this is just embarrassing to me.

It is my greatest fear that all of the games I love so much such as TitanFall, Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Crackdown, and others like them will all somehow be released at these strange sub-HD resolutions that seemingly have been made up to to squeeze the last pixel out of each game--(what the fuck is 792p anyways?)-- while still slowing their framerates to a painful crawl. This is simply unacceptable to me.

In my opinion, Microsoft made a huge mistake--(to be clear about this, they absolutely & totally fucked this part up)-- by not making sure that the hardware they chose for the Xbox One would be strong enough to pull their vision for the future off-- (TV, Cable, Kinect, multiple OS running in the background, etc).

In other words, the base model of the Xbox One should have been much stronger that the PS4's hardware before they tacked all that extra crap on to the Xbox One's already struggling hardware.

Let's face it folks, this is not rocket science, after all-- even though Microsoft would have liked us to believe all that PR BS from last year's E3, hahaha.

With a brand new E3 coming up in a few short weeks, I'd really like to see if Microsoft can turn this glaring problem around once and for all.

Although I do believe that the cloud and DirectX12 might improve Xbox One's performance slightly in the future, I simply have my doubts that it'll be enough to actually pull off today's 1080p native / 60 frames per second standard that we have all come to expect with these next-gen systems on a consistent manner.

Please, please, please Microsoft-- you have to work overtime on this because it is a huge problem for me as with millions of others around the world.

You have the great online experience. You have my favorite gamerscore, achievements, friends list and more. You have so many excellent games that I'm looking forward to playing in the future. These are the things I love the most about the Xbox One.

But now you really need to get your heads out of your asses and get this gear running at its absolute optimal best once and for all.

No more PR spinning BS. Talk is cheap. It's time for Microsoft to show the world what the Xbox One can really do once and for all.

osprey19806d ago

When will people learn that resolution isn't the main thing u should be asking for when it comes to games?

generalthadeape806d ago

The single main factor I used when buying my TitanFall bundle a few weeks ago was the games. To me, games trump everything.

Having said that, why should we have to settle for less because Microsoft didn't have the foresight to integrate hardware that would match or exceed what it was that they were trying to accomplish with their vision for the future of gaming?

All I'm saying is that we don't have to give them a pass on this and that we should all be playing games that can compete with other systems as far as resolutions and frame rates go.

I understand that the hardware can only do so much. Since Microsoft painted themselves into this corner, the are now going to have to dig themselves out of this hole if they want to be taken seriously ever again.

I'm sure that improvements can be made once they get their minds to it. It's just that I'd like to see something concrete sometime in the near future that shows real progress instead of dropping all of these PR BS tag lines and pretending that this issue will just go away all by itself.

It would be foolish for Microsoft to ignore this issue. It is up to us gamers to express our feelings so that they can make improvements whenever possible-- it really is our duty to speak up when we something just isn't right in our hobby.

I am passionate about gaming. I love my Xbox One. I am just asking them to make it even better than it is now. I am also hoping that they will remember these things when it comes time to design the Xbox 2 sometime down the road.

Microsoft must remember that the games come first. Innovations and add-ons come next-- but only if-- and only if-- they can integrate the hardware to support them without harming the way they games actually play. In this case, at the expense of resolution and framerates. In my opinion, they got that part wrong and we as gamers are now suffering for that.

medman806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

@osprey19
Resolution may not be the "main thing", but it sure as heck shouldn't be the last thing either. MS done f'ed up.

BallsEye806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

brute force is good for a while. Xbox360 had brute force (yes, more pure power on paper, go research), ps3 had fancy and complicated design. At the end multiplats were performing better on X360 (especially first few years), while dedicated ps3 exclusives were one of prettiest games that gen.

Now ps4 went for brute force, XO went for fancy and more complicated design. You can say what you want but more and more XO games show amazing detail and effects not seen anywhere else (XO so far only next-gen console having games with real time global illumination ex. Ryse, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive). It's quite interesting, you might still get suprised.

Also resulotion is not the most important aspect to make games more realistic. It's the lighting. Launch minecraft the way it is at 4k, it will look just as bad as it does now. If however minecraft would have realtime beautiful GI, caustics etc etc at 900p it could be the most realistic looking game despite it's blocky design.

Now to proove my point. What looks more realistic?
this 4k super high res minecraft screen
http://wallpaperscraft.com/...

or these lower res but ones with better lighting:

http://i.imgur.com/LXdIne9....
http://cdn.planetminecraft....
http://img832.imageshack.us...

CryofSilence806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Not true. This time, they both went for a simple design with CPU/GPUs that are virtually identical in design (with varying compute units on the GPU in the PS4's favor). The difference is their choice in a highway for the data (RAM). The PS4 went for a very fast, very wide freeway, whereas the X1 went for a slow, wide highway with a tiny superspeed express lane. At the very best, they will equal each other in data transfer; power will always favor the PS4. There is no secret sauce in the hardware of the X1. Cloud may help (with latency, it is highly unlikely), but Sony is also creating a cloud service that can be appropriated for cloud compute. Once people accept the truth, these fanboy wars can end and gaming can resume.

HugoDrax806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

@CryofSilence

"Sony is also creating a cloud service that can be appropriated for cloud compute"

Regardless it won't be able to compete with what Microsoft in that department. As far as I know, PSNOW is not a compute solution, it's a streaming service. Sony does not have the resources for compute solutions. Anyhow, Microsoft is a SOFTWARE company, that is their strength. Sony is a HARDWARE company, that is their strength. Just look at the rate at which software updates are being released for XB1. Sony will not be able to compete in this department, nor financially. For instance, every new XB1 AAA ip that is announced comes from Microsofts funding of that project. The reason Sony is pushing indies so much is because they don't require millions of dollars to develop, which they don't have. Microsoft on the other hand claims to have spent $1 billion dollars on games. Not indies, but AAA games.

Anyhow, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it lol. Rather you agree or not is up to you. We're all entitled to our opinions, yet whenever someone is pro Microsoft on this site, fanboys hit the disagree button without even reading the full comment hahaha.

N4F (Network 4 Fanboys)

system22806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

i agree with everything you just said. now I will add that i work in a studio that does numerous game trailers both cg and in engine (unity, crytek, unreal)... we've done some trailers you guys definitely know about and we have discussed everything you just mentioned at length.

about the best thing higher resolution output gets you is better or less noticeable aliasing. what gets you the best results for reality are HDR lighting, sub surface scattering, ambient occlusion, varying flavors of global illumination (which ties into HDR lighting rigs) etc... these coupled with the things you mentioned like caustics interacting on surfaces etc, these small details that we never notice until they are gone... those are the magic bits

Azzanation806d ago

Guess you failed to read the part where it stats (in time).

Azzanation806d ago

Why are fanboys impatient? Wait and see.

system22806d ago

theres a difference in cpu and gpu... and also.. the xbox's frame/resolution probe have to do with neither... it has to do with the way the memory is architected. actually... not that this is even relevant to the point of this article but the cpu of the ps4 is actually considered a bottleneck. sucker punch went into some detail about that when talking about the development of inFamous.

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kenshiro100806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Hey truefan, let me have some of that joint you're smoking so I can get high and make baseless claims too.

Btw, unless I see something that completely blows my mind on the XB1, Microsoft is drinking that crazy juice again.

Sy_Wolf806d ago

Having an architecture similar to a super computer doesn't imply it's as powerful as a super computer.

VforVideogames806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Hey that's what SONY used to call the ps3 when it first came out 'SUPER-COMPUTER-ENTERTAINM ENT-VIDEO-GAME-SYSTEM' remember that?? .

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Kayant806d ago

The single thing mistermediax and his crew cling on to.

"Part of it is less obvious, in that we focused a lot of our energy on framerate. And I think we have a consistently better framerate story that we can tell.

"On the CPU side, we really pushed how fast the central processor is running, so you'll see much smoother framerates, you'll see much less hitching on the Xbox One, and that's a big deal in these games: you really want them to be smooth" - Am guessing he saying this in comparison to X360 which is true. PS4 not the case.

Niv806d ago

Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that statement?

Hellsvacancy806d ago

I know right, wasnt the PS3 also a super computer? I remember this app the PS3 had that was trying to cure cancer or something, FoldingHome

TH3BR3W806d ago

It was to help with calculating the folding of proteins which helps alot with the study in making new medicines. You can use folding @ home on pc as well honestly don't care which every little bit helps.

AussieBadger806d ago

@ xdone did you actually read the hopefully good news for ps4 part. See i've got praise for a system when all I see you doing is spreading lies and hate. Get off your soapbox...

Xdone806d ago

Yep, I read it but the part that got my attention was " love stirring you guys"

You love stirring people up eh?

We too mate ;-)

The_devils_chum806d ago

Thats funny, if thats the case why does tomb raider and metal gear look and play like crap. Wow so super ive heard it all.