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Submitted by Evilsnuggle 134d ago | interview

The Last of Us Remastered: Neil Druckmann on 'Hellish' PS4 Port

In an exclusive chat with The Last of Us' creative director explained how tough it has been to port one of 2013's most beloved and celebrated game to Sony's next gen machine. (PS4, The Last Of Us)

1OddWorld  +   134d ago
It's interesting that now [compared to when there were technical limitations] the bottleneck is 'Can we fit all this on the disc?'"

/s BluRay always holding us back.
majiebeast  +   134d ago
Time for 500 gig discs.
Muzikguy  +   134d ago
And $200 games :/
pedrof93  +   133d ago
Two discs ?
Regis  +   133d ago
Well Sony has recently developed a tape that can hold 179 gbs of data in one square inch and it like 7 feet long or something. Google it. Looks pretty interesting to be honest.
USA007  +   133d ago
@Regis
179gb wouldn't be that impressive, hopefully you meant GB
randomass171  +   133d ago
@majiebeast Forget that! Bring on the TB discs!!
Dirtnapstor  +   133d ago
Sony (with Toshiba I think) was developing a 500 GB dual layered Blu-ray Disc. It'll come about!
Godmars290  +   133d ago
And when there are 2 and greater terabyte discs floating around in labs, neither MS and especially Sony have said if the the XB1 or PS4 can handle 100GB.

Nevermind MS only saying BR wasn't needed last get as they pushed their digital-only future.
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UltimateMaster  +   133d ago
PS5 with 500Gb Discs.
xilx  +   133d ago
@Regis

It's actually a 185 *TB* tape, though it's totally not feasible for games. It's really something that's only going to be used for archiving, because it's going to be comparatively very slow.
Benchm4rk  +   133d ago
Id actually be surprised if we are still using physical media for games in 7-8 years when the new consoles come out.
showtimefolks  +   134d ago
really excited to replay this and happily spend another $60. Its my most favorite game of last generation. I hope a lot of people who passed on it or didn't have a ps3 will give this newer/better version a chance

Its one of those special games that should be played by as many as possible
Bruce_Wayne  +   134d ago
My friend from school exploded in his pants when he heard this game was being released for PS4. He only played 360 last gen.
starchild  +   134d ago
I have it on PS3, but I will happily buy the remastered version for my PS4. The game is just that good.
joab777  +   134d ago
The reason they are doing this is b/c it will sell consoles...especially to the many ppl who never owned a ps3. Its kinda brilliant actually.
randomass171  +   133d ago
Having maxed out my old New Game+ I gave my PS3 copy to a friend who makes even less than I. So I'm thinking I'll get the game on PS4 and by then it will surely be cheaper for me. :)
Benchm4rk  +   133d ago
@showtimefolks and joab777

I have a ps3 but mainly used it for a blu ray player last gen and gamed mostly on 360. I almost bought TLOU twice but held off. I had my suspicions that they would release it for ps4. As soon as they announced it I pre ordered it and will grab that and a ps4 the same day. Excited to play it. Months of avoiding spoilers and not joining in conversations with my friends about the game will be over soon :)
Future_2015  +   134d ago
PS4 games do not exceed more than 60-70g so I have no idea what person would say you need a 500gb blue ray disc
chrono1205  +   134d ago
Xbox 360 games do not exceed more than 7-8g so I have no idea what person would say you need a 50gb blue ray disc

And we all see how that ended.:)
randomass171  +   133d ago
More space is never a bad thing. MGSIV would have spanned a bunch of discs if it was still on DVD.
mo241  +   134d ago
This is a true system seller.
Even being avaible on the ps 3.
I always wanted to buy the game on the ps 3, but for some reason I always postponed it. Glad I did.
Benchm4rk  +   133d ago
Im with you man. Resisted buying the game a couple of times. Will be the reason I grab a PS4
mrbojingles  +   133d ago
A bit off topic but I'd like to point out that Nintendo has been spending money on the development of HVD, Holographic Discs which store up to 300GB and theoretically 1TB on a single disc for like 10 years now. I think Japan got a few HVD players but it hasn't really taken off coz its still thousands of dollars
dontbhatin  +   133d ago
Honestly considering how almost everything is going digital, idk if a new type of physical media is necessary. You also forgot to add that the discs alone are a couple hundred bucks each.
marloc_x  +   134d ago
DVD sold alot of Playstations but the format is all but dead. Shed some weight Sony..
HeWhoWalks  +   134d ago
This doesn't make any sense at all. None.

OT: Can't wait for this! Just "shed some" light on the date, ND.
BG11579  +   134d ago
In case you didn't know, Sony is already working in a new support that could handle around 300 gig.
marloc_x  +   134d ago
Perhaps PS5 will use cassette tapes?
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OrangePowerz  +   133d ago
@Marloc

Like those?

http://www.backupworks.com/...
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randomass171  +   133d ago
DVD is most certainly not dead. They sell DVDs with all Bluray movies because not everyone wants a Bluray player.
Hyper_Tension140  +   133d ago
Who doesnt have a blu-ray these days.

Now that both next gen consoles have it, more people will likely buy more of those movies.
gamepard  +   134d ago
Sony said that they will support PS3 parallel with the PS4..the only thing i see is ports of successfull games(or not-GOW aAcension is lame descision to be ported) of PS3 which lessen even more the reasons to buy the previous console and also augments the library of PS4 with lame ports of already played games and not with AAA new ips ...if you think that half of the games (or incoming games) of PS4 are sequels of milked , not-so-successfull franchises (Killzone , Infamous, GOW (incoming), Uncharted (incoming) Last of US (the only that deserves a sequel))(the other half is indies) and non new IPs the console does not conveinces to buy it yet
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SoapShoes  +   134d ago
Uh I see ports being used to fill the gaps during the usual summer drought but it's clear you are a troll as anyone who has done their research knows it's not the case and historically new consoles get games that are cross generational.
gamepard  +   134d ago
the pro- mentioned franchises were the main reason that PS3 struggled hard against X360 ..not so successful very generic games in which Sony relied a lot and didnt care to attract exclusivities from Japanese companies (who were the main reason of PS2 success) ..now it seems that repeats the same mistakes with ports and recirculating these average games (ok to be fair TLOUS is an excellent game but for that reason shouldnt be ported to PS4)
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jmac53  +   133d ago
I just lost brain cells reading gamepard's comments.
WeAreLegion  +   134d ago
If you think ports are a new thing, you haven't been gaming very long. Every generation sees ports of games from the previous generation.
candy_mafia  +   133d ago
Exactly!

"well said" ;)
randomass171  +   133d ago
Very, very true. That is a very common thing. I remember when I saw a Tarzan game on the GCN and thinking "Wait, wasn't that also on 64?" Sure enough, it was.
dmitrijs88  +   134d ago
Yes, atm Im not convinced to buy PS4 because my PS4 backlog is extremely huge and with upcoming games (tales of zestiria, kh2.5, persona 5) it only grows, but Im actually glad it is the way it is, it means I can finish my backlog no rush and buy PS4 when Im ready.
mo241  +   134d ago
the games will come. We need something for now filling up the library.
LKHGFDSA  +   133d ago
it's ONE GAME.
and it's one of the greatest games of all time.

all 3 of the consoles are spouting out sequels to well known titles, that's how the game industry works.

I can see why this guy only has 2 bubbles.
The_Sneauxman  +   133d ago
Do you even English bro?
Muzikguy  +   134d ago
I'm anxiously awaiting this game even though I have the PS3 version too. Awesome game, definitely one of my favorites!!
Solid_Penguin-64  +   134d ago
Not long now before we see the fruits of their labour then.
xander70769  +   134d ago
They want to add the option for the triggers to be used for shooting...

I'm all for adding additional optional features, I think it's great to let players customize the experience (and honestly, button mapping should be a STANDARD feature in games now...).

That being said, am I the only one who prefers using L1 and R1 still? The ps4 R2 and L2 are certainly better than the ps3 counterpart, but it still doesn't feel as good to me as L1/R1. Infamous second son felt weird, and so did ground zeroes. I don't like using those buttons for aiming and shooting.
waltyftm  +   134d ago
Well said, i always user the L1 and R1 for aiming and shooting, and every game should have button mapping in this day and age.
Clown_Syndr0me  +   134d ago
L2 and R2 feel more natural to me, theyre more trigger-shaped. Also Ive played alot more Xbox than PS over the last 7 years so its what Im used to.
But youre right, no reason why games cant have button mapping, atleast to a certain extent like swapping back buttons around.
xander70769  +   134d ago
I actually play Xbox 360 a lot, and I have to say it isn't even comparable. The triggers on 360 are boss. They feel totally natural and I love that controller. The ps4 feels good in my hands too, though. Everything about it is about on-par, but even the improved R2/L2 aren't the same as xbox's triggers.

I think that because they've been improved from ps3 controller, devs are going to shift focus to those buttons and I think it's a mistake. They are probably great for racing and stuff though. Obviously I'm nit picky though, and I just really hope devs feature button mapping or at least a few varied control schemes to choose from more often.
Destrania  +   133d ago
I was playing BF4 quite a bit on my PS4 for a while, but a week or so ago I started playing TLoU MP again using my DS4, and I have to say, I reeaallyy wanted to use the L2 and R2 buttons to aim and fire. They feel so damn good for shooting games imo. If they allow custom controls for the remastered version on PS4 I think it's a win-win.
erick21093  +   133d ago
I see where you're coming from. It took me some time to get used to using them as my aiming and shooting triggers but I've got acclaimed with them already. When I play BF4 I love the ergonomics they have because rarely do my fingers slip anymore..

With that said, I still kinda would prefer the traditional controls from ps3 for TLOU. If they decide to change it, I'll still either way get accustomed eventually.
Locknuts  +   134d ago
Wow it sounds like really hard work. Hardly worth it IMO for a game that was pretty much perfect already. I would have preferred they put the time and effort into another game.
DoesUs  +   134d ago
Perfect on PS3 would and is not perfect on PS4.
sonerone  +   134d ago
I`m sure I`ll play it trough once with them commentaries on :)
LKHGFDSA  +   133d ago
always interesting to read into how they go about porting games from console to console.
sounds like alot of work was put into this game and it's not just a "cash in".
part of my still wishes they added new things (such as new enemies or just some surprises for people who already played the original) but I guess they're right in saying additions could have a negative impact.
looking forward to playing it, all those high detail assets!
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jay2  +   133d ago
Sony fed. Up not providing 100gb+ discs
Joe913  +   133d ago
There are 100GB blu ray disk they are double layer blu ray disks they have been out since the early ps3 days but were to thick for the ps3 I thought I read somewhere that even though the disk were not out for consumers yet those disk could work on the ps4 and since the Xbox one has a blu ray drive I am sure it can work on that as well.
Gamoc  +   133d ago
A dual layer bluray is 50GB, not 100GB, that's four layers. I did read somewhere that the PS4 can read them but I can't find an official source.
RevXM  +   133d ago
http://www.techradar.com/ne...

It was ps3 compatible, data bleed supposedly no issue with the 16 layer prototypes. shouldn't be a problem to make reliable discs now half the capacity for a reasonable price.

Hopefully Sony is preparing for the future.
I suppose its the lack of demand that have kept them from offering higher capacities. 25-50GB was plenty enough last gen and a few odd ones squesed in, but now there may soon be a demand for even more. Surely I dont ever want to see multiple disc releases on PS4 when I know the old Ps3 technically is compatible with 400GB discs lol.
uth11  +   133d ago
Good to hear they invested time in this, it wasn't just a quick port for a cash grab!

I can't wait for it!
rivencleft  +   133d ago
Can't wait, definitely one of the best games to date, and I am more than glad to shell out another $60 for this game, well worth the money, the experience was jaw dropping, awe inspiring greatness.
Cobra951  +   133d ago
"We always build the best possible assets and then we can make the call when things aren't fitting onscreen or in the frame buffer or in memory."

Smart man. Source assets at a very high resolution are the key to this sort of project. That way, regardless of how good game systems get, the software can be made worthy of them.

Starting development from PS3 code must have been hell for sure. They'd be much better off with PC source code, or even Xbox-360 (Power-PC-ish) code. To put it another way, a PC version of this game will be immensely easier to do once the PS4 version is finished. That port won't be anywhere near as hellish.
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spacedelete  +   133d ago
dude The last of Us is completely exclusive to Sony as they own Naughty Dog. you will never play this on a PC. deal with it.
Cobra951  +   133d ago
You're right. I will never play it on PC. I am not a PC gamer.
CocoWolfie  +   133d ago
i remember hearing how difficult creating a new ip was for them.. i really hope this pays off <3
MYDEATH21  +   133d ago
I really wish trolls would stay under their bridges.
n4g_someone  +   133d ago
@Regis

I think the new archive tapes hold 185 TB man.
Dynasty2021  +   133d ago
You know, I understand newcomers buying this, but I don't understand the logic behind those that have played it already, maybe even platinumed it, BUYING IT AGAIN.

People were pissed at what "message" was being sent by MGSGZ being a "demo" (which turned out to not be the case as I got more hours out of the game than I did with Infamous for example), so what the hell kind of message does THIS release send?

"Don't give us anything new or different, just give us the same game with a "Remastered" on the end and the same content, here's my money, because grafix."
zero_gamer  +   133d ago
I'll buy this on eBay or Amazon. Not supporting remasters for the sake of double dipping but I am down for playing them.
MNGamer-N  +   133d ago
Playing a 2nd play through right now on survivor mode. Great game, but not worth buying again. I am satisfied with the PS3 version. Who's got that kind of money anyway to buy the same game twice? Seems kinda silly to me. Unless you are Mr. Moneybags of course.
jay2  +   133d ago
REMOVE PLEASE DOUBLE POST.
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Aquariusgamer  +   133d ago
TLOU was the last game I purchased on ps3, and it will be the first game I purchase on ps4.

I'm hoping the rumors of a bundle are true.

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