What’s Bad About The Xbox One?

IM PLAYIN concludes their two part article series on the pros and cons of the Xbox One.

"Right. Let me start this article by saying that it’s the second in a two part series which is taking an honest look at the pros and cons of the Xbox One. I own an Xbox One, I love my Xbox One. But I’ve noticed on a few web forums that a common complaint is that Xbox One owners often refuse to admit the flaws in the console. So I decided to embark on this two part article series to talk about the good Xbox One and the bad Xbox One. Here is my article focusing on the good, (the good’s always first), in which I mention the great games, . Below is my article looking at the negatives. I will say, however, that sometimes when you’re so close to something it’s difficult to see its flaws. So it was tough coming up with this list of bad points … but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there aren’t any."

[TheLyonKing]

Whats bad in my view is:

Price point
A lot of the features is for America only
I feel kinect doesnt appeal to me and so therefore is an expensive add on + I don't think they have marketed it well enough or even used it properly yet.

Finally I just don't want to shell out a system that (based on track record from the previous two systems) will lose support from the company after x amount of years.

EDIT* Instead of people mindlessly disagreeing could they please provide an argument to why my views could be considered wrong?

[Francis2]

I agree with the price point, and whilst I love the Kinect, I have a good few friends who don't use it and therefore would probably want it as a removable aspect of the console. That being said, I don't know if I would have willingly purchased it if I had the choice, before properly using it.

Not sure if I agree with the lose support thing. But then that's because I'm the sort of person that A) usually buys the latest console anyway and B) is more than happy purchasing older games. For example, there wasn't anything interesting me on the Xbox One at the moment whilst I'm waiting for Wolfenstein and Watch_Dogs, so I purchased Two Worlds and Dragon's Dogma for the 360 to fill a bit of spare time. (Both decent games btw, though Dogma is better)

[Gazondaily]

Things that annoy me about the X1:

1) Installation on games and downloads....absolutely despise the long install times. The PS4 is much better but then again, I haven't had a chance to install from disk

2) The UI- I actually prefer it to the PS4 in some regards but in others, its just slow and cumbersome. Its so much faster to check your friends list and messages etc on the PS4. I want to be able to snap my messages or snap friends list.

3) Its huge. It matters to me because I have wanted to take it round my mates a couple of times and the thing is so bloody massive I've just been put off it.

Other than that...I'm struggling to think of things apart from the obvious disadvantages like inferior specs etc. Its a decent console for sure.

[Blaze929]

@TheLyonKing "Instead of people mindlessly disagreeing could they please provide an argument to why my views could be considered wrong?"

I won't say you're views are wrong. But when it comes to "What’s Bad About The Xbox One?," you're views didn't answer the question.

Price point is subjective. You're value of a dollar will always be different than the person standing next to you. Price is a personal issue dealing with YOUR abilities to make money and what you think is worth the work you did for it.

Kinect, another personal issue.

Features mostly available in America - *ehem*, PERSONAL issues.

Loose support? Again, nothing to do with what's actually wrong with Xbox One. Just you're PERSONAL "beliefs"

Just a bunch of personal issues. What is wrong with the physical system itself?

Me PERSONALLY, I can afford and bought one. I live in America with great internet speeds. I love Kinect and it's potential. I never saw the Xbox 360 as "loosing support" - still getting updates and games to this day.

So, again, - "What’s Bad About The Xbox One?"

[TheDarpaChief]

Its hardware is not definitive and fitting of the term next gen so it suffers as a whole

[Hellsvacancy]

So why is the XB1 good Blaze929?

To be honest it doesn't matter how you answer I will reply with "your PERSONAL beliefs say it's good for those reasons"

The guy said "A lot of the features is for America only" and you said "*ehem*, PERSONAL issues"

It doesn't matter if its a "personal issue" i'm not going to buy a shoe, no matter how well it's made or how cool they look if they don't fit my feet

[Imalwaysright]

How is having some features in just a few select countries "personal issues"? You didn't counter the points he made at all.

[MysticStrummer]

You just argued against his personal opinion by using your own personal opinion, after pointing out that his argument was only his opinion. His views did answer the question, you just don't agree with his answer.

For myself, well first of all I avoid giving money to MS whenever possible and have done so since long before they ever got into the console business. They have their tentacles spread far and wide so it's tough to avoid giving them money all the time, but I do my best.

As for the console itself, paying more for weaker hardware that includes an accessory I don't want, a controller I don't like, exclusives that don't interest me, lesser versions of multi plats because of that weaker hardware, and an extra fee to use other services I already pay for isn't something I'd ever rush to do. Most of that list also applies to the WiiU, but at least that weaker hardware is cheaper.

[Blaze929]

@TheDarpaChief "fitting of the term next gen"

So what is next-gen? I thought it simply meant the next generation of a product's production. But of course, you will give me PERSONAL definitions.

@Hellsvacancy "So why is the XB1 good Blaze929? "

You're asking me why a product is good?

But you follow up with, "To be honest it doesn't matter how you answer "

so why even ask in the first place?

@Imalwaysright "How is having some features in just a few select countries "personal issues"?"

So if person a doesn't have features person b has for living somewhere, who's problem is that? person a

all these replies yet yall can't seem to grip the simplest of concepts to this question. Whats WRONG with Xbox One. You don't like the controller? "YOU" - wtf?

I don't understand the logic. I see if you said, the controller has too much lag and latency. Then yes, that is something WRONG with the Xbox One. Likes, are PERSONAL

[Imalwaysright]

No it is not a problem for "person a". Its a problem for the brand itself. "All in one" <- This was MS strategy for the whole generation to set their brand apart from the competition and everything they've done was to meet that goal. For example, the architecture of the X1 was to achieve that goal. Not having the features that set their brand apart from the competition in ALL the countries is a problem because it goes against how MS wants their brand to be perceived by us, consumers.

[bennissimo]

I can see MS using Azure to host all X1 games into perpetuity.

But if $100 makes or breaks a console purchase for you, you shouldn't be spending money on videogames.

[LordMaim]

Let's gloss over the implied judgement about people's finances and look at your statement. It's not just the cost that's the issue, it's the value. The Xbox One costs more, and doesn't perform as well as the PS4. If the price were reduced, hopefully by removing the Kinect pack in, I would be more interested in picking one up to play Dead Rising 3 for example. But at the moment, the price point is the key barrier to early adoption.

[Baccra17]

Everyone always forgets that lose of support issue. I would also add that locking services like Netflix behind a paywall and having a lack of variety when it comes to games is also adding on to the bad list against Xbone.

[choujij]

The mindless are easily lured.

[ha8eraid]

I didn't give u a disagree but will tell u why I do disagree with your opinion. Price point is a mixed lot for most not saying your wrong but most people who really want it will buy it regardless of price if that's what they want. As far as support I can see where u coming from with that also but I still play my 360 just as much as my Xbox One nostalgia I guess but your basing it off cause Sony dropped a few more exclusives more but that's to each his own. Like I said these are my opinions and why (I) disagree with you

[XiSasukeUchiha]

What my nitpick/bad point:

1) Not having an debundled Xbone, for the gamers who just don't want Kinect if they want to buy it, buy it separately
2) The Price point that justify the power of the console.
3) So far the games are alright, but hyped for Halo, and Sunset.
4) Cloud compute, PR talks because I have enough of theses.

This my trope/ nitpick/bad list, at the viewer's discretion these are opinion after all, so don't get offended. If your are any chance offended, please another comment.

Disagree: If you disagree please agrue with evidence and detail to prove my view is wrong, and no fanboyism, just straight honest facts.

[bennissimo]

What's your beef with cloud computation?

[MasterCornholio]

I guess the biggest issues is the price and the fact that most of the features are only available in the USA.

The whole thing about the weaker hardware would not matter if it was cheaper than the PS4.

[hello12]

Kinect can't be removed because its integral to the OS.

People use it for voice controls, uploading videos, and streaming. Honestly its worth the 100 Euros if you do all this stuff. There is a reason why the Playstation camera is wanted now by Sony fans. Just get over it was included with the x box 1, kinect has uses.

[ceedubya9]

Kinect isn't really needed, but it is beneficial to get the complete experience from the console. The necessity of Kinect probably wouldn't even be a talking point if the One was 399.

[MasterCornholio]

Liar.

The system works without the camera. That was one of their 180s if you dont remember.

[MysticStrummer]

Kinect is integral to the OS because the OS was designed that way, to make Kinect seem more needed than it actually is.

None of the things you mentioned require Kinect, by the way. People do those things all the time without it.

[forcefullpower]

This is exactly how I feel about their console and the price for worse hardware. They need to remove kinect and drop the price to under £300. Personally £250 should be the correct amount. This is one of the reasons I have not bough a Wii U yet either when its priced at £250 just to much and should have been around £150.

[vongruetz]

What's bad? Everyone is playing on the PS4.

[truefan1]

This article should have come out yesterday, Sunset Overdrive just looks to awesome for a doom XB1 article.

[Bennibop]

The UI I think is terrible and feels clunky.

[hello12]

I find if you use a gaming monitor or any PC monitor the interface flows lot faster. I think the slowness happens if your internet is crappy or you're using a HD TV above 32 inches, might be imput lag.

[Bennibop]

I have 100mb broadband so it's not that. Perhaps will try a monitor, to see if that spruces things up. Overall not a big fan prefer 360 and ps4 ui

[ceedubya9]

Works fine for me. Although, I will say that there are some parts of both current gen console UI's that need some work.

[Tzuno]

mmm.....kinect?

[WeAreLegion]

I don't have any issues with the hardware, honestly. I have issues with the company.

[Blaze929]

See this, i can respect. +bubble

[Bugz]

My biggest dislike is the UI....
It needs to be more customizable, have more visibility on the main screen for apps... for example I have to add an app to favorites or tell kinect to go to it to get to it quick.

accessing the friends list feels like it takes forever....
snapping it or having to go through all the main screen to see whos online takes a while... i miss the old popup screen on the x360 :/

Lastly from what I can think off the top of my head is being able to connect usb drives/hardrives.... 1. it woudld be nice to watch downloaded films off my hardrive 2. The hardrive holds about 5-6 game installs.

[Kiwi66]

you do realize that all you have to do to have a notification pop up when a friend goes online is set them to favourite

[Bugz]

I know....

I mean when i want to check out what my friends are playing, check out their achievements ect

[corroios]

1.º Price

2.º Forced Kinect

3.º Weak specs

[kingmushroom]

nailed it.

[uth11]

My main technical complaint is that it struggles to hit 1080p in many games. That should be the standard this gen.

oh and the forced connect/always watching you aspect is creepy

[ha8eraid]

Honestly if all the articles and websites weren't boasting this issue how many people would actually know one was 1080 and the other was not

[DanzoSAMA]

Nothing

[PlayTheGameBro]

I think the only problem is the use of kinect from the gaming aspect. Price is not something to talk about because if you can not come up with an extra hundred dollars by now, that's too bad. Yeah the system 100$ dollars cheaper is more powerful. But if you can come up with 400, it really should not be that hard to come up with 500.

[ceedubya9]

Still a hard sell for a regular customer. that extra 100 dollars can go to a game and the extra tax that you have to pay on the purchase of the console if you buy a PS4. Both consoles offer nearly the same games/experiences, so what is the rationale to pay 100 dollars more if you don't have to? 500 dollar price point was always a going to hurt them.

[Notramagama]

A highly vocal Pony minority...

[MysticStrummer]

How is it the minority when PS4 continues to sell more?

And please please please don't come back with that available in more territories nonsense. People who say that forget, or ignore, that XB1 was briefly out in more territories and was still outsold during that time. XB1 is already out in it's strongest markets, and MS is slowing XB1 production even though the console is about to introduced to new markets. They see what's going on, even if some of their fans won't admit it.

[Notramagama]

Ive never said the more territories nor do I care about sales really. That's for ponies to argue about.

And a minority because the people bitching on the internet left and right make up a minority of the overall gamers.

btw, you're defensive as fuck about the territories argument that was started by Sony people anyway. Tiny markets barely matter at all period. Pony

[AceBlazer13]

truefan
Axios
georgenooob
Bigpappy

Lol seriously though,

The Controller(I just can't get used to the Xbox lay out
The Kinect(It's useless to me)
Most of the features are unavailable outside the US

Even then I can look past those things cause the console has some decent-great games.What really keeps me away from the console are 3 key things:

history
Microsoft
and the fanboys.

These are of course my views, I can't speak for the other people uninterested in Xbox One

[MysticStrummer]

For the record, I've seen Bigpappy say reasonable things at times, which can't be said for those other names.

[Belasco]

Yikes, sorry but it's universally accepted that Sony fanboys are indeed the worst. Still, what does that have to do with the system itself?

[SpinalRemains138]

The fact that it is weaker yet more expensive than its main competitor is basically where this debate ends.

There's nothing actually wrong with it. Its price just isn't justified for what you get.

[GHOSTxx420]

Price other then that nothing really,it's way better then I expected.

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

1- Price
2- Ugly ass outdated design
3- Everything being behind a pay wall

That's all I have against the XB1. I will be getting one in a few weeks though because I want to have both consoles PS4 for everything and XB1 for its exclusives. I'm looking forward to playing Deadrising 3.

[Kiwi66]

LOL so ok you say that price , the paywall stuff and that its an ugly outdated design and yet you say that you are still going to get one soon guess it can't be all that ugly for you afterall and the 2 other things you mentioned aren't that much of an issue for you that is if you really are getting one as aren't you a playstation only gamer

[RandomDude655]

Microsoft and leadershit failure

[choujij]

As someone who's bought the first two Xboxes (even on launch day), I'll gladly tell you what I think is bad about Xbox One.

- It's 1st party games are lacking in quantity and diversity.
- I'm tired of seeing several of the relatively few "exclusives" it has being released on other platforms (which I also happen to own).
- I abhor their stupid greedy paywall policies.
- I can't stand their refusal of cross platform play.
- It's parity clauses need to be abolished.
- While I don't have a problem with the $500 price point per se, I have a problem with the under-performing hardware that comes with that price-point.
- The menu looks worse than the 360s. I don't like being reminded that I'm gaming on what is an essentially a downgraded Windows 8 OS on barely mid range hardware.
- The controller is an overall step back from the revised 360 controller. The clicky D-pad and tapered B button really annoy me. In this day and age, to not have any form of a touch interface is a letdown.
- I hate that the controller is pricier that the competition and doesn't even include rechargeable batteries. After spending money on two play and charge kits that failed on me, this has become a sensitive issue for me.

[Josh101]

Well the system wasn't made by gamers. It was a system made my corporate suits for TV! TV! TV!. The attempt at raping our rights to the First Sale Doctrine. Microsofts blatant disrespect to 30% of it's userbase stating if you want offline and used games to purchase a system that they already own. I could go on. Microsoft didn't change all these anti-consumer policies until they saw pre-order numbers and panicked. They were perfectly content with telling everyone to #dealwithit until just this.

[Hifist1]

Gonna buy all consoles once again so i'd say nothing bothers me in it. Based on what i've read about it. Well its little too expensive atm, 529eur in Finland, gonna wait for serious price drops. For 400eur+game i would buy it in a heartbeat.

[Dynasty2021]

Price. Price. Price.

Lack of performance proven in every game so far. Hardware not as good as the cheaper competition. Xbox Live is a moot argument now as PSN is better value and runs just as well. The TV stuff is US only, or SKY in the UK that only a few million people have. Kinect is a gimmick.

Pay more for a console that will lag behind forever?

Pfft.

PC and PS4 thanks.

[Longshot28]

Everything.

[Dan50]

Don't forget 90% of the apps are locked out if you don't cough up Gold.

[BG11579]

Kinect and the company behind it.

Yep, I don't like MS.