Though Turn 10 Studios’ Forza Motorsport 5 was scrutinized heavily on its release, both in terms of its visuals and gameplay features, there’s no denying that the game looks amazing.
Just wait after DX 12 ! The game will run at 1080/60 ! ...Oh wait.
WHat are you even talking about?
God if Forza 5 it, X1 is screwed.....lol
Might be a joke I think. OT - That's a damn good looking texture. Looks almost 1:1 with the real life counterpart.
Forza 5, a launch title, manages to pull 1080p/60fps yet Driveclub, released a YEAR after launch can only do 30fps.
@geogeenoob Why do you make comments like that? You know full well why Forza 5 runs at 1080p 60fps and you know full well why DC runs at 1080p 30fps. Two completely different games, with different assets made by different devs with different visions. How long apart they are released means absolutely nothing. Evolution studios went the '30fps with extra bells and whistles' option, and Turn 10 went the '60fps with some toned down assets" option. It's not as black and white as you wish it was. If both games used the exact same assets on both consoles, then you would have a fair comparison, but they don't. I own the game, so i always find it funny when Xbox fanboys like you try and act like Forza 5 running at 1080p 60fps is some huge feat, when it isn't. Don't get me wrong, the game is pretty, the reflections on the windscreen, the car models, some of the vista's....they're all great. But you can definitely see where they cut corners to get the game running at 1080p 60fps. Some texture work is lacking, the lighting is baked, the environments are static and sometimes down-right ugly (trees, buildings), there is little to no anti-aliasing used at all, resulting in a raw-looking 1080p compared to other 1080p games that use better aliasing at lower framerates. I don't want to sound like im bashing the game because i really do like it, genuinely, but people like you need calling out. If that includes mentioning Forza 5's corner cutting, then so be it. So while DC *doesn't* run at 60fps, if Evolution chose to scale down the graphics, it definitely *could*. That pretty much applies to any game if it's downgraded enough.
I guess he was joking.. OT - those screens look great I can only imagine how good forza horizon will be. Turn 10 is made up of very talented devs.
@georgenoob Completely different games with different assets and environment effects, do you think xb1 could run DC at anywhere near 1080/30?
X1 got nothing to show for in 1080p and 60 frames other than racing and sports. Show a game that actually isn't on rails.
@george - ...and DriveClub looked better at reveal than Forza 5 did at release. What was your point again? OT - I have to think the title is sarcasm.
@mikeslemonade Well, to be honest the PS4 doesn't have many games that run at 1080p and 60fps either, aside from simple indie titles or a couple cross gen games. Actually, I can't think of a single graphically demanding game that runs at 1080p and a steady 60fps on PS4. COD Ghosts isn't even very graphically demanding, but it doesn't maintain 60fps very well anyway. I guess there's Metal Gear Solid GZ, but that's basically a last gen port with a handful of enhancements. Other than that I can only think of indie titles that run at both 1080p and 60fps on PS4.
@georgeenoob And a $100 more expensive console can't run multiplats at as high of a resolution and FPS as a $100 cheaper console. I would love to see how well the X1 could run Drive Club.
"there’s no denying that the game looks amazing." Is this sarcasm from gamingbolt.com? Forza 5 does not look much different than Forza 4. The graphics are really good but they are not amazing. Also lets not forget, other than the new physics, F5 is using the same effects F4 used. The only difference is some of the tracks in Forza 5 are laser scanned and they car models have been improved. Not much else is different. The track graphics are very subtle upgrade from F4. Hardly amazing. It would be news if Forza 5 wasn't 1080p 60fps vs touting it as an achievement. I know of which I speak. I play Forza 5 almost daily. XBL - BoodyBandit
@georgenoob 1080p/60 fps means very little when a game has the ridiculous amount of jaggies that Forza 5 has. Not to mention that it has cardboard cut-out crowds like GT4 which is a ps2 game.
Let us all be honest here Forza 5 is a good looking game. But it not a graphics power house by any stretch of the imagination. The downgrade to Forza 5 actually take away from the game. No night time driving and no real time Lighting effects or real time weather . Are big negatives and a step backwards for the Forza series. I hope developers of both xbone and PS4 follow the lead of Crytek. Crytek cut down on resolution to improve their game ryse. I hope that developers target 60fps be for 1080p. Games on both PS4 and xbone would be better to focus on 60fps frame-rates, texture qualities and better anti aliasing Than 1080p. I have read that it's harder to develop a game at 720p 60fps than a game at 1080p 30fps. We will have to wait for project cars on PS4 for our first taste of true next-gen racing 1080p 60fps real time Lighting effects , real time weather effects and real night time driving and insane [email protected] Project cars is running 1080p 60fps on PS4 and it destroys Forza 5 in Graphics. Yes I know that they're targeting on xbone but we all know that not likely to run 1080p 60fps on xbone. Deep down is 1080P 60fps on PS4 and has awesome Next-gen graphics. KillzoneSf 1080p 60fps Dying Light is running 1080p 60fps another game targeting 1080p 60fps that probably won't be Running 1080p 60fps on xbone
Say what you will about things it doesn't have like night n day dynamic times but just head over to metacritic to see how many sites praised Forza5 for what it does have= gorgeous visuals, great tracks, superb physics and drives like a dream. I own it and I know its one helluva driving game, but folks don't want to talk about what it does have, plus innovative things like Driveatar cloud usage; all at 1080p 60fps. Nah just downplay everything since another racer didn't hit the famed 60fps they targeted, which is not absolutely necessary but does give racers a better sense of speed. Turn 10 are great at what they do, Forza 5 is still clearly at the top of the racing genre, right out the launch gate, can't wait to see what they'll do given more time with the hardware.
Right on 4show they love downplaying. Game looks fine. Hey brutal You said FZ5 was half a game with 200 cars. DOes that mean DC is 1/8 a game with 50?
Georgenoob is desperate this cardboard graphics of Forza 5 http://i.imgur.com/PVp0oTL.... The game sacrificed/downgraded so much to be 1080P.The game is a jagg fest too...
Forza 5 looks better, plays better and will sell better than DriveClub
I agreed with George on this. Fanboys can Spin all they want. Forza is a SUPERIOR RACING Game when compared to Driveclub. 1year plus development and Evolution couldnt achieve 1080p and 60fps on a superior platforms? Give me a Break! Forza 5 Is a FAR demanding game. I really doubt that DC will feature HALF of content present in Forza 5. This is not about what console is more porwerful. Its about what development Studio is more capable. And Turn 10 is major league. Sorry Evolution.
@pedrof93 This post is about Forza 5 not about DX12 or resolution
haha i see what you did there. ;)
wish Driveclub would be out already =o
I have put many tens of hours into Forza and I still play it regularly. It's a really fun game, and it looks fantastic. What's not to love? A lot of dismissive, sarcastic, off base comments around here. Probably mostly from people who have never so much as seen the game in action. This is why the gaming community on the web is a pathetic wreck. People don't know a good thing when they see it. I spent some time this morning telling ppl on MrXMedia how retarded they sound for downplaying MLB, only to be called SDF, then I come over here and feel like if I say something good about Forza (which is a great game) I'll be branded a "stupid fanboy" by people who have no right to use the word. Is there no place on the internet where gamers have honest and rational discussions, or is everyone just looking to take a hardline in order to stroke their egos?
You're one of the most known trolls on N4G, you don't honestly think you will be taken seriously here in the near future? Make a new account, keep the quality of your comments on the same level as this comment and people will gladly have rational discussions with you.
Don't forget they did not use 10% of the GPU when this game was made, do to MS's SDK where late. FMS5 will be DX12 with 98% of the GPU.
Forza 5 is hands down the best looking racer out right now no doubt
Sarcasm detection may have failed me there, but isn't Forza already 1080p and 60 frames per second? Or was that your point? EDIT: I should have scrolled down through the replies before commenting. Tsk tsk, schoolboy error.
Before DX12 or After DX12 is my question, and criticism towards this game are reasonable and understandable
what are you trying to say? dx12 has nothing to do with this game. they ran a demo of forza5 being ported to dx12 for its reveal, but that wasn't to showcase graphical improvement. it was to demonstrate how easy it would be to port titles built on dx11 to dx12. F5 runs at 1080p/60fps with a really decent simulation so as far as i'm concerned, until project cars hits consoles and is amazing, forza is one of the best console based racing sim available.
Good comment System! One thing I'll add they showcased directx12 on PC with Forza having a constant 60 frames. Most games might be labelled as 60 frames, but you'll see drops at certain times. Directx12 kept at steady 60 directx11 games have issues with frame rates.
Thank you. Saved me saying it!
Forza 5 will look better, play better and sell better than Project Cars for PS4.
And it is currently the only Xbox One exclusive worth giving a damn about.
Dead rising 3 and Killer instinct are really good. Plus Ryse is not that bad.
Yes they are good if you already have an Xbox One but not good enough for me to get an Xbox One for, Forza Motorsport 5 on the other hand is definitely a system seller if you are a car enthusiast like me.
Ryse and DR3 are both really boring for me, especially Ryse. DR3 atleast has some stuff to do but the combat, AI, etc. really drag down the game. Killer Instinct was pretty good, it just needs a lot more content... And I got bored of the fighting mechanics. Waiting for a new MvC to fill my fighter itch. Forza 5 needs more content but it's still good, but I find myself going back to Forza 4. Right now, the only thing really keeping my X1 on is Twitch on my TV and a few KI matches here and there. My PS4 wasn't seeing much use either, not for atleast a month man! But now, with MLB The Show finally out, I'm starting to use it again. Well, I used it for Netflix sometimes too, but I don't think that counts. These consoles are really dry. E3, save us.
Ryse looks great visually and as far as I'm aware the story ain't half bad either, but the gameplay is so repetitive it hurts.
Killer instinct is allot of fun. Please don't hate on the game if you haven't played it. Dead Rising 3 is fun too but it's boring quick and it plays like a last gen game. Ryse is not good but TF is allot of fun. Please play the games people
At least there is an exclusive on X1 worth buying the console for...
"Worth buying a console for"... Not for me and I'm a car enthusiast. There's nothing on either console worth buying either one for, but if you add up multiple titles, then it makes it a lot easier to justify a purchose.
Seriously? That's a shame then.
Why? The game is stunning... but there are graphical problems. The Car models are too detailed, YES, I said it. There are random things in this game that have crazy amount of detail to them rather than being dispersed into the environment, like this picture of this track for instance. I doubt Driveclub will have this kind of detail or millions of polygon counts per car like forza because they put more and equal detail into the environment to match everything from cars to people etc. Forza looks damn good, but they focused of too much of one thing I feel.
Lol, if Forza is the best they can do they then they are done.
Do you seriously think a launch title would be the best a console can do?
True power of xbone right here. Lmaoo Http://static.giantbomb.com... Yep, sure as heck shows true graphical prowess of xbone. @fasterthanftl Actually those are appearing better, rofl! At least they are 3d lol, forza 5 true next gen, my ass!
Is that for real? Not only are they just flat 2d images but they couldn't even be bothered to remove the black outline around each person.
To be fair, if you're paying attention to the crowd, you're playing forza wrong.
I agree, when racing I only care about what's in front of me on the track.
Still better than this: http://www.gameranx.com/upd...
How? Least they could be arsed with making them 3D.
@Foxtrot - yeah if you like models that look worse than Goldeneye characters from the N64. In either case who really cares? It's a racing game, why waste resources making spectators 3D when they have no bearing on the game? I would rather more detail goes into the game then worrying about what some person is doing on the grass. Speaking of which, what is that character doing? Is he/she taking a $hit or something? Or just practicing squats in his/her spare time?
Comparing a last gen game with a "next gen" game. Fail.
It's amusing to see you compare the Xbone graphics to a game on a last gen system. You've proved a point, but not the one you were trying to make.
Very tacky of you! last gen compared to a next gen? really? Big fail.
It's a damn illusion! You aren't even supposed to see the crowd that close in Forza... You don't glitch out of maps in other games and see shit and say, "Wow this has terrible graphics...."
I played the hell out of Forza 5, and the cars are the best thing about this game IMO. The Track side details are poor, and when/if you crash the vehicle, you can easily notice the cardboard cut out Tree's and flat cut out jagged crowds. The pre-baked lighting is OTT, and the loading is atrocious IMO. That doesn't make Forza 5 a bad game, I still love playing it, and it runs super silky smooth...but let's tell the truth about it!
@candy How am I not telling the truth? Do you want developers to focus on parts of maps that you aren't intended or likely to go to? EVERY game features this. People just want to shit on X1 games all the time. It's a racing game, the cars and track are meant to look amazing and look amazing... Everything else is meant for when your driving fast.
Forza 5 is a launch title, and at that time they were only using 90% of the GPU. So for Forza 6 that extra 10% should fix that and guess what we will still be at 1080P 60fps.
I hope this is sarcasm
1 image from reddit. And it doesn't even have cars in it. What a lazy article.
This, stupid article shows one picture from reddit and goes on to say that the game looks like real life. Hey why not take a pic of the bystanders you'll be amaze on how crappy they are. Who approved this junk?
"goes on to say that the game looks like real life." This never happened.
One image from Reddit and from Photomode. Photomode hides all jaggies.
Double post. I'll add that I have played Forza 5 extensively and it does look great. And I'm a PS4 only owner. How about THAT, N4G? :D
you are a paradox..
Yea it looks good, but what about implementing aa next time. I can't believe it doesn't have any aa, or am I wrong?
Your right jaggies and horrendous load times made me trade it in. F5 was a great game but those load times were really frustrating. Had they implemented AA the game would be 30 fps.
@impet25 - yet Drive Club is only going to be 30fps, and Sony fans seem to defend it quite a bit.
Forza 5 just keeps getting better the handling is spot on and the gfx on the cars are the best yet they look right in there background just awesome some car games make the cars look amazing but the cars look like they are stuck on screen