Nintendo just published its financial results for Fiscal Year 2014, and they don't look overly positive, slightly worse than what indicated by previous forecast modifications .
Ehh its not lookin good for Nintendo at all. After 2 years and barely crackin 7 mill. I really hope Nintendo's E3 and Directs really get ppl excited and enough content to make the console worth while.
its still almost 2m north of x1 numbers, so not that bad...yet
It's 6.17 million shipped.
What i read most on this site is how there needs to be more games for the core gamer. Games for a dedicated gaming device and yet here we have a company doing just that. nintendo doesnt make movies or tv's or phone or computers...they make gaming systems and games. they are the only (and have been for some time) gaming focused company in the mix. the appeal of their games is what is at stake and many feel they are to kiddy but thats the view from the outside looking in. Take a step inside and you might find a different perspective. The games are fun and entertaining in their own unique way. they arent going for realistic they are going for the fun factor. so while someone with a ps3/4 or xbox 360/one might say that those type of fun games dont appeal to them well...there is nothing i can say to convince you. you need to just forgo the premise of everything needs to be big and flashy and blows up and just try them. you might be surprised by how much fun they bring. Maybe even crack a smile in the process. dont worry, we wont think differently of you if you actually enjoy yourself. After all...that's what games are for.
I've been saying this for the longest they need to fire this man as soon as possible ;)
@darthv72 I agree with some of what you said. I have not purchased a WiiU yet and may or may not. I am an older core gamer and have all my old systems back to my Atari 2600 and you are right, Nintendo games are super fun. I have my Super Nintendo hooked up for my 3 1/2 year old who loves Donkey Kong Country and my original DS playing Mario World I've replayed some of my old favorites too. I have not purchased a WiiU simply because my Wii sat with dust more than I played it because the draw to keep me on the console isn't there as much as other consoles offer me. Especially with things like PS Plus and constant free games. Once WiiU has Zelda and Metroid I'll more than likely pick one up. If my son was older and I wasn't concerned over the tablet controller I'd get one for him. A lot of Nintendo's old die hard fanbase such as myself have moved on, had kids and are more buying PS4's and Xbone's and their kids play on what they buy. Nintendo needs to release games to bring us back more than they have and not focus on gimick controls but have them optional. I can't think of one WiiU game I actually feel that I am missing out playing I can't play on another console and this in my opinion is why their sales are so low.
@dmitrijs88 http://www.nintendo.co.jp/i... Not shipped numbers
xbox has been out for less than 8 months. Ninty is doomed. Good for them now they will try harder next gen like sony is doing. I hope this really hurts them so they will smarten up.
Queue Iwata bending over again in yet another Nintendo Direct video *sigh* What a horrible leader.
by all means, ninty is far awqy from being doomeds, like it pr not, this is not an opinion, its a fact
I don't understand why Nintendo will not compete with Sony and Microsoft at E3. This Nintendo direct is stupid. Nintendo should have a Big E3 stage show like everyone else and compete with PS4 and xbone. I think if Nintendo gave the wiiU a price 200 or 250 with a great bundle like Mario Kart or super smash brothers or a new Zelda game. Then Nintendo would be in competition with the xbone for second place this generation. P.S Iwata should be fired
Yes, the CEO who takes a pay cut instead of laying off highly talented employees should be fired. He should also be replaced by a suit who has never played video games. Or better yet, Nintendo should drop the price of the Wii U to $200 so that they don't even make enough off the console to keep them in production. There's a reason why you only have one bubble.
@thehobbyist Yes the CEO who can not make money should be fired regardless of him taking a pay cut. This is a business not a happy fun, let's get in a circle and talk about how much we like him as a person. Had he been laid off then Nintendo still would not have had to lay off the highly talented people you claim to have had thier jobs saved. I bet if Nintendo advertised a CEO position with a dollar salary and bonuses based on performance they would have plenty of qualified applicants with more vision and understanding than this has been. But you keep thinking that the only people out there running companies are "suits" with no soul. Just remember other companies are posting profits. Nintendo should be as well.
He made nintendo more money than anyone else did for their respective company in gaming. Then he only has problems with the home console. Could you pleasse stop acting like all he did is losing?
It been over 1 year and half sir. Nov. 2012-13 is one year plus.
Things are looking up. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I think Iwata is done for at this point. There is no way shareholders will continue letting him fumble the ball. Nintendo needs fresh blood and start courting third party devs for their next console, no gimmicks to try and sell the console and just accept that the Wii was lightning in a bottle, that might never happen again.
According to Pachter, the board simply doesn't have enough guts to send him on his way. It's pachter, so take it with a grain of salt, but IMHO he's right here.
Didnt a japanese site say that E3 2014 was Iwata's last stand? I mean as shareholder you cant be happy that the WiiU is projected to only sell 4 million units, this coming fiscal year.
I agree with Abriael on this point. Iwata's got too much clout to be ousted.
IMO, they should be conceptualizing the new console by now. So it would be very smart decision to get rid of Iwata at least for the project. Nintendo needs to get rid of him slowly, and so having him gone from the next gen console project would be the first step. Even the most powerful can fall, and this time was Iwata's turn. He has been great, but everybody is thinking the same thing! They want new blood, new, fresh ideas. Like majiebeast said, they need to be starting courting third party devs for whatever comes next. Just look at how the impression completely changed when Phil Spencer was chosen the boss of Xbox! All that negativity that surrounded the Xbox was gone the next day! That is exactly what Nintendo needs!
Emily has been extremely critical of Nintendo, so the bias card doesn't wash. Besides the point, her inside info based opinions are worth 1000x more than those of emotionally driven forum fanboy's witch-hunting and crazed paranoid guesswork. The only thing left missing, is for you to click disagree and prove my point.
It really does surprise me how people seem to seriously believe that firing one man is going to magically fix all of Nintendo's current issues. I hope you guys know that if shareholders got exactly who they wanted into the company, Nintendo would more than likely become a mobile third party software developer. Iwata deserves some respect, a demotion at the worst and a consultant position at the best.
Serious question here Abriael How come the board dosen't have the guts to send him packing? They're higher ups right? Or at least powerful enough together to come to decision to get rid of him. ANY other company would of fired a guy like Iwata by now for messing up like this. @randommass171 No one is saying it's magically going to fix everything...but it's a bloody good step in the right direction.
@Foxtrot A majority of Nintendo's top shareholders are banks and trusts. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/i... Hiroshi Yamauchi is the largest shareholder (individual or otherwise) and he's even more ancient than Iwata (well dead at this point). Yamauchi's beneficiaries probably have too much trust and faith left in Iwata to turn around and tell him to walk or convince the other shareholders to vote him out. I wouldn't doubt that the "loyalty" part of Japanese culture is the only reason Iwata is still where he is at (well, that and the remaining heat left over from the Wii's success and 3DS's comeback from its initial poor launch).
Really? What do you know about Iwata and what happens behind the scenes at Nintendo? Probably, what? Nothing? Emily Rogers @Emi1yRogers 4d "Last year I was critical on Iwata's handling of Wii U. But after speaking to many Nintendo employees, I now sympathize with Iwatas situation". Please stop pretending you know how to run multi-billion dollar corporations.
Things aren't necessarily true just because Emily Rogers (which isn't exactly the most unbiased source for things Nintendo) says them.
Ok abriael what are you going to say about sony? You are critical of a company that actually made a profit here. Not as much as usual yet sony is set to loose estimate billions, not in yen but dollars. Should kaz be fired? Has he really turned around sony yet? We only see him selling off parts of sony not forging a new sony. Should we all just give up on sony for having better hardware before the wiiu yet never making a game as good as mariokart or smash.... Yet they have tried a failed at those very games. It's funny how no one at retro has quit. No one at the Japanese 1st parties have quit. Nintendo hasn't fired anyone then we get mariokart 8 and smash. What is funny is almost nothing is coming out worth talking about game play wise for the ps4 yet their drought is ignored. Kaz did not drop the ball on software huh? I'm sorry Iwata is the only CEO that understands gaming. Gaming as a whole is getting hit right now which is why the Wagon are circling.
I agree, I think Nintendo needs to go back to the drawing board with home consoles. It needs new leadership and new ideas . All I really want is a Nintendo home console that's traditional and packed with lots of first and third party support. I hope that one day we get that again.
I agree they need new leadership and go back to the board, however there are ppl in this site that think they dont.... its a shame that they think like that.
The last thing we need is for Nintendo's next system to become a carbon copy of its competitors by ditching the good stuff like the game pad especially if it's for the sake of investors and idiots like Michael Pachter. Did you know that one of them wanted Nintendo to start making microtransactions in their games? "Imagine making people pay a few cents to get Mario to jump just a little higher!" That's a nearly word-for-word quote. We don't need people that stupid deciding Nintendo's future. Period.
It doesn't have to be a carbon copy, but they need to make it strong enough to compete against Sony and MS. Nintendo had it's own consumer base last gen, and they were hoping that would return for the Wii U. When that didn't happen they haven't really done anything to try and remain competitive. They have great games, and some of the strongest IP's in gaming, but the hardware just isn't getting support because Nintendo is a generation behind compared to the competition.
It might be the last thing that YOU need, but the majority of gamers clearly want normal consoles with lots of third party support and Nintendo needs it if they're ever going to become big on the home console scene again. Developers don't want to go out of their way to give their game features/interface for a special controller (unless they're getting big bucks to do it, like with Kinect). And whose "one of them" that suggested microtransactions for Mario games?
Using too much common sense. Don't you know by now Nin always does the opposite of whatever common sense happens to be? They're not going to learn because they don't care, and Iwata is probably safe as well. Getting your hopes up far too high if you think Nin is going to learn anything or change their stubborn ways.
Nintendo's problem is what make them so good. They have they vision of what they want to do in video games and they don't let competition change their direction. The Wii U may not have photo realistic 3rd party games, but the Wii U perfect console for the Nintendo fan.
Yep, Iwata is gone, time for a new CEO.
Then shouldn't Shuhei Yoshida be gone since Sony lost even more? Why does no one attack him the way Iwata gets attacked?
Because Yoshida isn't the CEO of Sony, he works at Playstation while Iwata is the CEO of Nintendo and is responsible for this loss.
Because Iwata had his time with the Wii and now he cant even make this console turn around.. Taking Pay cuts isnt helping...New Leadership is needed at Nintendo
Yup just like Kaz is on the chopping block for losing Sony over 1.3 Billion Last year. Oh yeah.
Both Sony and Microsoft have had their CEO's replaced time for Nintendo to get the same treatment. Iwata's pride and old traditions is hurting the company ;)
But Kaz's leadership is what also helped the PS4 Unlike Nintendo you guys fail to realise that Sony is an electronics company, hell even Microsoft are a more then just Xbox One's. Nintendo is just a gaming console business, they don't have other things to worry about. No TV's, Computers, Cameras, Operating Systems, Tablets etc
If you think Iwata should be gone I'd love to hear your opinion on Kaz Hirai lol
WTF did nintendo do?
Played it too safe, overestimated the name of their brand. They needed to plan for the Next Gen better and create more WiiU development teams. Sony and MS are teasing new 1st/2nd party development projects left and right within their first year, where Nintendo has still been pretty quiet 1.5 years into the WiiU Also their marketing has been dismal. They really only have Directs and online ads for certain games.
Exactly, Kevin. Not to mention that since the GameCube, Nintendo isn't really known for longevity when it comes to home consoles. Portables, on the other hands, are amazing and last for about a decade. But it's a different story when it comes to the GameCube, Wii and Wii U; systems sold all within the past 10 years. Their 3rd party developers are abysmal as well.
@Kevlar this is exactly it. Everything aside from this is just biased projections and wishful thinking from haters. You hit the nail on the head. They could easily fix every single one of these problem but they won't for some reason.
What Sega dont.
They've failed to sell the WiiU again for the consecutive time and as usual you have individuals trying to spin this and ignoring the man at fault Iwata ;)
they only shipped 310k wii u in first quarter of 2014. i guess wii u sells the best in US if we know that in march NPD sold around 80k. they expect to ship 3.6 million wii u in next 12 months. that would put wii u LTD sales to 9.8 million which is worse than dreamcast. 3DS doesn't doing great either. only 590k shipped in first quarter of 2014
The Wii U was a mistake from the beginning. They should have made it at least kind of equal in power to the other "next-gen" consoles.
Power isn't that much of a factor. People rarely buy Nintendo hardware for multiplatform games and it's first party releases never really leave you sat there thinking 'how I wish this console was more powerful'.
just because people don't buy multiplatform games on Nintendo consoles today, doesn't mean you can't change that perception tomorrow.
Why do you want Nintendo home consoles to always be a Mario/Zelda player? What is wrong with making a powerful console, attracting third party developers and broadening the consoles appeal? It will only help increase its sales and market share.
"People rarely buy Nintendo hardware for multiplatform games" It's this mindless dedication to mediocrity that never ceases to baffle me about the current Nintendo faithful. It's as if the days of the NES and SNES just never happened.
That would've been interesting. For that to happen though they would've had to burn another 12months anyhow and let the wii live 1 more year so the wii-u could also release in 2013; otherwise there's no way they'd have equaled anything. Let's say they would be ok with that - now what? What hardware arch? Would they side with another AMD Jaguar design or go off on their own? If they went off on their own you might then have developers complaining about supporting yet another platform; hey I'm going to just develop for these 2 other big guys who are close in design and we'll talk in 2 years time... Or stick with the reference design and use GDDR5 as well; whoops you've now critically affected supply of that precious resource and you'd have even fewer PS4's on shelves :) Everyone hates motion gaming, PS4 guys hate voice/motion system commands (Kinect), haters even hate the camera you get for Twitch and Skype support. What's left for Nintendo to do on a real console?
A carbon copy of the PS4 hardware with a Nintendo logo and Nintendo's software lineup would sell like hotcakes and have plenty of third party support. Availability of GDDR5 notwithstanding. In my opinion.
3DS sells cos of Pokemon..but Pokemon MMO on Wii U so it will sell
Which will probably happen after its dead , lol
I was just wondering about that. Pokemon is a massive name could even be as big as the Mario name and I do wonder what will happen if they made a full Pokemon game on the Wiiu and if that would start a serge of sales or if its just want people want on handheld devices. I do think if Nintendo push Mario kart 8 and super smash brothers alot and also hit us at e3 with some of the other big named games like Zelda, Fzero, starfox etc that this could help the Wiiu sales. I do think its too later for the Wiiu to catch the ps4 and Xbox ones as the ps4 is selling well with Sony doing much and Microsoft already have things they are now doing to push on the Xbox one, that said just because the Wiiu will not finish 1st dose not mean that it will not be a success if they can hit 50 milllion sales.
Dualshockers never reports bad news on Sony but Nintendo and MS they do lol.
Its a fiscal report from Nintendo themselves how is that bad news? DS is just reporting the facts. The title of the article isnt. Nintendo so teh doomed they are too doomed to doom.
Well think about it this way...it's 2 million more than my X1 to date! Folks will say Nintendo had 1 year head start, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii U at 6.17 Million is still 2nd highest selling next (or current, whatever) gen console. Sony is at the top, MS is 3rd..and I don't care about 1 year head start, because 360 had 1 year head start over PS3, and 360 fanboys were quick to dismiss that reasoning. I love my Wii U, which is 2nd highest selling Gen 7 console!!! #goninty!
"I don't care about 1 year head start, because 360 had 1 year head start over PS3, and 360 fanboys were quick to dismiss that reasoning." So the reason you don't consider a year head start relevant is because a group of individuals you refer to as "fanboys" used the same failed logic? You might as well say Knack is a far better selling game than Mario Kart 8. Cuz, you know, sales figures aren't in any way impacted by how long a product has been on the market./s
NoWayOut so true ....dual shockers is playstation central lol most articles approved on here is dual shockers lol....nintendo is gonna be alright ....they just move at their own pace
I don't understand all the hate towards the Wii U, off course the device has flaws like the lack of support of important developers, but you need to consider Wii U because of the exclusives. You need another console to play games of Rockstar and Bethesda, for example, and Wii U is a great option as a complementary platform.
I agree I have recently bought a wii u and it compliments my ps4 perfectly. Games like dk tropical freeze and Windwaker to good to pass on. Also I'm enjoying the miiverse communities really great console.
The problem with that is that not many people care about Nintendo exclusives anymore.
Have you even compared the sales on Nintendo exclusives with sony or microsoft's exclusives? Nintendo destroys them both in sales.
You're talking about last gen when everyone and their mother bought a Wii. Also many of those top selling games were bundled in with the console for months or even years so it's not an apples to apples comparison. But most of those customers have moved on to mobile and tablet gaming, that's why the Wii U isn't selling.