Simon O'Neill of VGamerz discusses why Destiny might be destined to fail.
Every hands-on preview I've seen has been basically 'meh'. Don't see where people were expecting it to be anything special.
That's the vibe I'm feeling as well. It's pretty much "very pretty, but does nothing new or exciting."
Well for a start it seems like a great coop shooter RPG, like an improved Borderlands. Also the fact that Activision is putting tons of money into the games production and marketing should give you an idea how confident they are in this title. I am 99% sure that it's fun to play your own character and explore the world, even more so with friends. I am not sure about the lasting appeal but I think that it will be worth it's money.
@Zod I couldn't agree more. This game is looking fantastic, I think the online coop is what makes it so appealing to me (I loved Borderlands). It makes me wonder, what do people want in a game now a days? Or are they just moaning for the sake of it. Some great games have come out and are coming out, but apparently Titanfall, Watchdogs, Destiny, Advanced Warfare...all meh.
@Zob and Unreal I agree with you both. I'm excited about being able to traverse the open areas by foot or bike. The different mission modes means there is always something to do whether in a team or alone. Also, the story seems very interesting. Plenty of room for growth, multiple classes to master. Events EVERY DAY. There is too much manufactured hype either. I'm sure they will deliver. To answer your question @Unreal, they are just moaning.
@Unreal01 was with you until you sneaked in Advanced Warfare and Titanfall into the mix. Advanced Warfare is a game the comes from a long line mediocre to bad games from the COD franchise. Just because they've finally stopped using the same engine and Kevin Spacey is making a cameo appearance should give you no reason to ignore past trends of the series getting progressively worse. Titanfall is a mediocre over hyped game that is sparse with content despite being online only. Not to mention the fact that it is a competitive shooter with no recoil, a good amount if aim assist and brain dead AI whose sole purpose is make bad players feel good about themselves and make it easier for them to get killstreaks(another anti competitive mechanic). At least Watchdogs is a new and unreleased ip and therefore has no history. Bungie has a long history of making solid games so they would deserve this benefit of the doubt if given.
I think the Halo crowd will love it. But I also think those of us who were unimpressed with Halo will have similar feelings towards Destiny.
I'm a huge Halo fan but after the latest trailer Destiny kind of did look very average for next gen so far but I got faith in Bungie and I'm hoping something they haven't showed yet will wow me and get me excited again.
That's one of my worries. I think the game could really innovate, but Bungie is being so secretive that it's starting to hurt them. All the previews mention how they hardly got to see/play anything because it's 'not time'. Well when is it going to be time? The beta is just about to come out! -Simon
I think people should embrace the good old days where you didn't play games till they were released. And you didn't know anything about the game until you opened the intruction booklet on the ride home, or you popped the cartridge in and played. It's really redeeming sometimes. I enjoy cracking into a game I know nothing about.
Thats a nice optimistic idea Syleros until you bring home Ride to Hell
So is the E3 about to start next month and bungie will show more new Destiny footage,that will make us more hyped and finally showes to the others who are not following the game since announcement,that Destiny has much more to offer.I mean they just showed us a little taste of what actually the final game is going to be.
When does the beta come out on PS4?
I know that feeling Gary. And yet I'm told it has "record breaking" pre-orders. I'll just have to wait and see, but for now, I'm just not interested.
I think it's been too hyped for its own good.
You haven't seen many previews then.
Previews from playing the game for a very short time and only a tiny part of the full game. I wait till the Beta for my judgement.
Having been involved in clunky betas that turned into good to great games, and great betas that turned into mediocre to bad games, I don't judge until the final product is available.
I get a feeling that Bungie is doing it again. Three quick reasons I recognize from Destiny that should make it a success: 1) It's all about gameplay while being pretty 2) The best, biggest and deepest realization of Borderlands' "3D diablo-loot system FPS game" (those games sold a lot, so there's a market there) 3) Activision throws 500m usd to the franchise and we haven't still even seen the story (they must be convinced it's that good) I see the ROI (return on investment) big on this one. This could be the biggest NEW thing that hits while sweeping some market % for itself. Just my opinions. Let's all hope it's really good!
guess the xbots are starting these articles because destiny is set to be massive and there partnered with sony you will see a lot of these threads popping up
Yep... Nailed it... /s
You do realize MS still owns an unknown equity in bungie since their split right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://www.techradar.com/ne... Just like MS does with androids, they are set to make a bunch of money on a multiplatform destiny. Just saying before you get your panties in a knot
So pathetic. And the fact you got agrees is even worse. I'm purchasing this game on the XB1 and I couldn't begin to tell you how excited I am. I could care less if Sony gets special content
good marketing can do wonders
I'm going to treat Bungie like they have treated the Xbox fanbase. I'm giving them my full support and picking it up second hand/used.
More than likely the game will be a huge success. The world and its battles are dynamic and done perfectly. The match systems look excitWill easily be a GOTY contender i feel. The preorders alao tell this story.
As for me, I'm excited simply because I'm a sci-fi buff and love almost everything Sci-fi. That, and it's Bungie. Outside of those two things, I'm rather "meh," so I get where you're coming from.
activision dumping tons of money into a game doesnt guarantee success... they have dropped more money into every cod and that franchise has been declining in sales for the past 3 years now with no end in sight...
It essentially being from Activision is enough for me. But then I would have rather seen the assests of this shooter-MMO done as a singleplayer RPG based on exploration and interactive factions of friends and enemies.
Do you think they'll just abuse the franchise until it burns and dies like Guitar Hero?
I don' think that I'm a fan of neither MMOs or Activision. Just making a comment and expressing an opinion.
Destiny isn't an MMO. Bungie has repeated this in almost all their interviews.
Although nothing they have shown has blown me away, everything they have shown looks really good. I am definitely buying it, every gamer I know at this point is planning on buying it. I think it will do pretty well overall. Will it sell 15 million copies? I think it will, especially since it will be one of a very few amount of big titles coming out on X360 and PS3 this holiday. I would say it is destined to do really well.
I'm having the same reaction as you, i think it looks very good, but nothing that had made me say "Wow! I NEED this!". I am buying it day one regardless though, 2 of my friends are buying PS4's especially for this game. It should be great, it's been a while since ive played a game co-op (Borderlands 2 was the last).
Maybe the "Wow!" -moment is where it should be: in the gameplay?
I already can't remember if I stated it in the article, but I will definitely be buying the game. I've been anticipating the hell out of it for months and pre-ordered it for the beta. I just hope everything I said is as wrong as Michael Pachter's predictions.
there not really showing the good stuff for some reason, they need to do like a big sort of demonstration vid showing public events and the whole shabang or people will just walk on by it and go meh. So far from what Deej said they've only shown 9% of the game and really not any of the major things. I hope this changes come E3. I'm excited because it has some interesting things going on in it and I'm really excited in seeing how public events function and the open world and combat.
I don't know if i'll buy but my friend said he's buying it so i might, if it's like borderlands it'll be good. I can still see myself playing final fantasy XIV more.
I agree. Although, having said that, what have we really seen? It's a tiny vertical slice of an absolutely huge game. We have seen one mode, in one area, on one planet of many. That's hardly enough to make a real judgement. That is, unless you don't like the formula that the game is going for. Which, in that case, it wouldn't interest you due to it being a shooter, MMO-like, or published by Activision (which seem to be the most common complaints). I'm sure that E3 and the upcoming beta will shed some due light on more of the entirety of the game. At very least, it should be a fun romp with friends. The gameplay mechanics seem solid enough for at least that. At most, it could be a new franchise to be improved on for the next several years.
I have to say I am on the fence with Destiny. I need to see more story, more narrative. I have never been one for "go here, shoot that." I want to know about exploration, about the social aspects to the game. This is the stuff that will interest me. Not the most refined "Halo" combat we've seen yet.
I'll just wait and see before i judge this game.
Someone reasonable :)
"Destined to fail" hehehehe I see what you did there...
The only thing I will say is that we barely saw anything of this game. Its a bit to early to judge it so let's wait until the beta to come up with a better conclusion of our impressions of this game.
That's a few articles I've read now from people who have had hands on time and they all say the same thing.Nothing special.Nothing new that hasn't been done before and better.Was looking forward to this.I know it's early days and there's still 3 months before release.E3 May bring some new footage.
I more hype for halo 5 then destiny .but I'm getting destiny for ps4 day 1
in honesty, i really liked the playstation showcase, they showed social teaming up and they waved to each other, that was awesome :') but with recent details being revealed and a video showing 'defend this while someone hacks it' it felt eh.. so thats my opinion :/
Let's not forget Destiny has competitive multiplayer, so for those who aren't into co-op games can still experience pvp multiplayer.
It's not $500m on one game. It's what they could potentially put on the whole IP if more games were added for sequels/prequels, which will happen.
Unfortunately that's not true. The very first paragraph of the entire piece said it loud and clear. "Yes. According to Reuters, Activision is indeed budgeting 500 million dollars for Destiny. Not for the whole project, though. Just the first game." So its JUST for the first game.
This isn't a $500m game. Even if we take into consideration advertising and money for the bribery department and so on, it will come nowhere near that, not American dollars anyway. Of course if your including the graphics engine and so on, which are not Destiny exlusive and will last the next gen for all of their games, then you could throw that in to bump the budget up. They are actually including the cost of the engine, and things that will benefit all their games for years, and not just this one.
as I understand it, the advertising budget is 100m of that 500m pie. We are going to see ads for this game everywhere. Taco Bell cups, buses, billboards, commercials, etc.. its going to be insane.
500 million is the budget for this game. I believe their Facebook page or IGNs Facebook page confirmed it
The $500m was used for marketing and other things as well. I don't think Activision would blow all of this money on the development for a new iP even though it will sell amazing because it is made by Bungie
They've added the costs of making a new engine, and goodness knows what else as part of this game. As the engine is for all of their new gen games, then it shouldn't be included. Either way, there's no way they have spent that. All part of the hype. People are forgetting the profits get divided. it doesn't even have a SP mode.
They said that the $500 includes everything that the game gets plus advertising. So even if the game only costs $200 million to make it still costs $300 million to put in front of people and advertise. Not sure about this bribery that you speak of. Seems a bit unfair to group advertising into a category like that.
It's reminiscent of what people were (and still are) sayingabout the order,which makes me laugh because we've hardly seen anything from both games,especially the order. I remembers fanboys of a certain company rip the order to shreds based on a 10 second clip of gameplay.let's rather wait and judge destiny fairly when they show more at E3
It will be great. It's hard to represent what Destiny is within a 30 minute preview.
I think Destiny will be a fantastic game, but this Reach-Era Bungie we're talking about, so competitive MP could be hit or miss, but I have faith in Bungie but will Destiny sell 16 million units... I highly doubt it, but never the less, I'm buying the game day 1 on PS4, so I'm happy.
It's too Early to tell. Although I've liked what's been shown so far, I am not blown away. However, I haven't played it to give a proper opinion or run down. We still have a good few months before launch. I will be picking this up. I like the developer and the games they've made.
I know why all is so negative to this game, because they wont it be better than Titanfall. For me personally this and WolfenStein The New Order is the 2 FPS I looking forward to. Gettin TitanFall soon on Xbox One to see if it is so good everybody have hyping Titanfall since the first gameplay came out.
$500 million over the course of 10 years isn't that bad. They also have to be looking at selling more than just a $60 game. DLC will be incoming big time as the game goes one. I'm not into these kind of shooters, but Destiny definitely has me interested.
People that don't agree with the game itself are those who likely never enjoyed Bungie's previous titles. This game is a culmination of what they've done mixed with some other titles...some people will absolutely hate this game and not understand the hype, while others know Bungie's work is stellar and will appreciate it for a number of other reasons...
to be honest bungee has more of title then grand then auto. halo revolutionized games.
I dont understand what this hate is all about for on of the most anticipted game coming out this fall, i believe it will live up to its hype n prove all the haters wrong
I'm looking forward to playing it, looks like a fun game.
Has it become cool to hate Destiny recently? Is this how websites get their hits by posting something negative about one of the most anticipated games of the year? Seriously, what is with all these grim articles. The game is going to do great. The Borderlands formula is popular; ask 2k who's biggest selling game is Borderlands 2. If we have the talented and well known Bungie injecting a straight shot of steroids into the formula, I cannot see a way this game can do poorly let alone fail. (And the, uh, $500 MILLION budget is nice too.)
@"Has it become cool to hate Destiny recently?" Was thinking the EXACT same thing. This game is getting unfair bad press and for the life of me I can't see why!
they have time to get this game right. even after release there wwill be a huge community and they will demand that this game be good. As issue s are identified bungie will be able address them. im enjoying warframe right now so I think this game can be at least as good as warframe.