Pachter on 'Borderlands' not coming to PS4 & Xbox One: 'What's wrong with them?'

As we all know by now, the newest iteration in the Borderlands franchise is coming to the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC only, with both the Xbox One and PS4 missing out on that content. Even before the game was officially announced, there were rumors of it being a past-gen only game and it makes you wonder, is that the wrong move?

[MrSwankSinatra]

Exactly what I thought.

[lelo]

"Pachter on 'Borderlands' not coming to PS4 & Xbox One: 'What's wrong with them?'"

It's coming! Just wait and see. First release it on X360 and PS3... later on release a enhanced edition on the PS4 and X1 for more sales.

[Chevalier]

I'd wager that's not the only reason. Don't forget 2K games is releasing Evolve in the fall on Next Gen systems only. This is the new game by Turtlerock studio's who brought us Left 4 Dead. They simply don't want Borderlands to eat into those sales especially when they are trying to establish a new IP franchise.

Most people won't look twice at Evolve if Borderlands competes with their own product it'll be detrimental. So their strategy is correct. Release Borderlands Presequel where their are already a large established fan base get those sales now. Release Evolve unhindered and set the foundation for a new franchise.

Then after the time has passed and Borderlands Presequel won't cannibalize own products. Those Borderlands people will still be there or they'll get people to rebuy the same game and get another sale. Just include all the DLC and call it the HD GOTY or ultimate loot edition and people will buy it.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

There's nothing wrong with them. Randy Pitchford said they cost money to port the games over. Implying next gen is costly.

Fair enough but we're not dumb. We know the pre sequel is shaved off DLC that couldn't fit on PS360. Therefor they feel the need releasing a separate game.

I really like Borderlands but at the end of the day its a flawed game and allot wrong with it.

There's no bazillion weapons you can choose fromthat's just marketing PR. Its really not that big of a game.

The characters are great but why gives us pre-set generic characters when they could give us an option to make our own? The 4 characters have nothing to do with the story of Borderlands other than they're vault hunters.

Give me the option to make my own character his weapons, armor abilities etc. Since they serve next to nothing in the story aspect. The characters don't even have lines so why bother giving us pre done generic characters?

I'm might skip on this borderlands haven't truly decided yet.

[BitbyDeath]

'There's no bazillion weapons you can choose fromthat's just marketing PR. Its really not that big of a game.'

Maybe not but the fun is all in the co-op and with having a large variety of unlockables made it the closest thing to a nextgen Timesplitters... RIP :-(

[ShwankyShpanky]

#BringBackTimeSplitters

[jdaboss]

f@ck Randy.

[maniacmayhem]

I wouldn't say shaved off DLC but these new devs are more than likely using the same engine and the same assets to make this game.

To put this on new systems and have it look like a PS3/360 game would get so much hate and bad attention from gamers all around. Even though I think its unwarranted but with new systems everyone expects better graphics regardless if it might have been a port.

I liked Borderlands 2 for long while and had a blast playing with my friends but after a while it became a super grind fest and got tedious the more I played.

[cyguration]

I didn't mean to hit the disagree button.

Sadly, I cannot take it back.

[Chespin]

@cyguration
Never tell someone you accidentally disagreed with them. They get all butthurt.

[kevnb]

It's not as easy as people seem to think it is, making a game for 5 platforms at a time can be pretty messy.

[AliTheSnake1]

They're making it for PC.
Same arch as PS4/X1. Easy port then optimize, and Bam.

[kevnb]

Different API on each platform, and the little things like trying to use esram... Then you have to make sure the ps4 version isn't too much better than the Xbox one version, it's a pain.

[3-4-5]

If they haven't started it yet, it's going to be about 2-3 years until we get the game once they do start.

2017-2018 for Borderlands 3.

That is 3-4 years into this gen, that is just way too "behind the times" Gearbox.

Get to it, I'm having a blast with my first playthrough of BL2 right now, but we def need BL3 ASAP.

[Lucreto]

I think this is a quick title to cover people while Borderlands 3 is in development.

It is basically Batman Arkham: Origins. A game by another studio while the main studio make Arkham Knight.

The assets and engine are there so just build from that.

[oof46]

I concur. The only concern is that this in-between Borderlands title doesn't sully the franchise like BA:O did.

Origins wasn't a horrible game, but it wasn't up to par with Rocksteady's games.

[nope111]

I found Arkham Origins to be the best out of the 3. Mostly because of the writing was really good and Joker's protrayal in AO was the best.

It's a damn shame AO gets so much flak.

[oof46]

@nope111: I didn't say it was a bad game, but it wasn't as highly regarded because it seemed more of the same. I do agree the story was very well written.

But, you have to also take into account the bugs that WB said would not be patched, and the DLC that ended up not getting released on the WiiU. Those things can frustrate consumers on an IP.

[joab777]

It seems to b the winning pattern for so many IPs today.

[nope111]

There is more install base on PS3/360 than PS4/XBO, it makes sense.
I for one never buy a new console the first year it releases.

[BlackTar187]

Your comment is as if you had to chose one or the other. You don't they don't. They could release it on all systems.

It's stupid for them to not release on new gen systems. Not much can be said to sway my opinion at all unless they can prove the amount of money the will lose by porting then okay.

other then what i stated above it's really stupid.

[Zichu]

They might not make the money back if they were to sell on 4 systems. They are also lazy ass developers and liars... Just look at Aliens: Colonial Marines.

[MysticStrummer]

The money angle makes perfect sense, and they do have to choose. It's easier (cheaper) to bring the game to established platforms for which they already have working and at least somewhat optimized engines. Could they do a quick port that added little or no visual upgrades? Sure, but gamers would complain about it. To do it right would mean more work and more money spent. It's just more cost effective to release this on last gen systems.

You guys that disagree with this real world based answer should ask yourselves why you suddenly agree with Pachter. This is just another case where I have to wonder how he keeps a job. He either states the obvious or ignores it on any given day, but somehow he's quotable.

[dumahim]

@Zichu
Like they're going to make a Borderlands game that doesn't make them money.

It's not like this is being built from the ground up. It's using everything they can from BL2.

They spent a lot of time working to get BL2 downgraded to run on the Vita and by the time the Pre Sequel would launch, both the Xbox One and PS4 will have a larger user base than the Vita does. Plus, they don't need to figure out how to squeeze the game to run on a lesser system. Get it running on the newer consoles, better framerate, better res, maybe some added effects that are probably in the PC version and presto!

[BlackTar187]

EDITED He did say it wasn't free to port. But i stand by my point. I bet Infamous is pretty happy with the Next Gen Sales.
How expensive can it be?

How hard can it be?

Early Adopters are for the most part Hardcore gamers so selling on a lower fan base shouldn't be that bad considering the audience the new system currently have.

[MasterD919]

I stand by the fact that this game was in development likely immediately after the whole Alien's fiasco as a cure-all to the hate Gearbox was receiving from the fans. When all else fails, go to what works (so to speak).

They likely weren't focused on where next-gen was going to be at this point, so they weren't quite ready for the leap. Having said that, I can only assume Borderlands 3 is already being developed in some capacity already as surely they now realize the importance of next-gen consoles.

They also did support the hell out of their games (and the past generation), so this could just be a proper send-off in their eyes.

[iDadio]

I would rather wait for a true sequel that has been built specifically for ps4/xb1 than have something that hasnt had these machines in mind and merely looks a little nicer.

[DarkLord1003]

Wow - it seems like Pachter has actually the same oppinion like I do. What's happening?

[MegaRay]

You're turning into a patcher!
GET AWAY FROM ME! I DONT WANT TO GET THE VIRUS!

[Salooh]

Well , he's late like since the announcement. We all had this opinion since then lol . Like people say , stating the obvious.

[just-joe]

It's one of those spots where he actually comes off as a credible analyst.

[chaosx]

It looks as if it could have been DLC that got expanded. If the start of the game is Marcus telling a story about these characters then , you know it to be true.

They wanted it out and make a big chunk of money while the franchise was still popular.

Loved BL2 but by the end of all those silly little add ons they game started to feel milked.

[jnemesh]

They are gonna get their lunch eaten by Destiny anyway.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

The reason why borderlands isnt on ps4 is because borderlands 2 is being released for Vita.
If the Pre-Sequel was available on ps4 it would diminished the Vita release and people would just remote play the pre-sequel.

But i believe the pre-sequel would eventually be released on ps4 as a game of the year version

[MysticStrummer]

What does that have to do with XB1 not getting it either?

O.o

[Geoff900]

I think Gearbox is playing it low profile, after two games being over hyped and turning out shite.

[lonelyplayer]

Who's this patcher? why is he so important?

[xx4xx]

Gearbox

Outsourcing most well known franchise.
Not releasing on new consoles.

Cash grab.

[dodgefate]

good, Bring us borderlands 3 ps4 , XOne only :)

[Bonerboy]

Randy "the Douche" Pitchford has some trick up his deceitful little tailored sleeve. One that will once again surely dupe idiotic consumers out of their hard earned money. This guy is a unscrupulous scumbag who constantly lies and thumbs his nose at the people who made his business what it is today. His company and games are all sh*t. Borderlands art concept was ripped off directly from a jap anime and Randy dick-hole Bitchford didnt give credit where credit was surely due, and instead claimed it as their own. Everything they touch turns to crap. They outsource because they suck at doing anything in a remotely competent manner by themselves.

BiA 1&2? not bad but so old they dont even apply to the list of decent games anymore. List? My mistake, there is no list. Over a decade of complete garbage titles. How do they survive? By ripping off others ideas and concepts and deceptive pandering. BL is only ok, and they have milked the hell out of their ONLY decent game unlike any other game in gaming's entire history. I cant support such a dishonest untalented hack and utter smarmy twatish oaf. Its a shame so many still do. Randy needs to perish in a fire...and perish very very slowly.