Nintendo's finally starting to crack into the Wii U's custom hardware.
Great news, glad to hear that it will run that fluid even when I have a second player along for the ride.
Damn, Rainbow Road would look so nice in 1080p @ 60fps. I'm jelly. *Looks at WiiU prices on Ebay* Haha, this is so weird, i haven't been a Nintendo fan for so long, but i really wanna play Mario kart 8, the tracks and the visuals look amazing.
Good time to get one with the MK8 free game deal.
wii u with mario kart and free game bundle at tesco £199. I just bought my first Nintendo console since the game cube (3DS) currently playing the latest Zelda and having the most fun I have had in ages! http://www.hotukdeals.com/d...
@Walterwjr. I have also gone for this same deal, at the sub 200 price point (if only just) bundled with 2 games I finally cracked. Can't wait get to get some Mk8 split screen on the go!
Best Track list I've ever seen in any racing game to be honest. Or at least the most appealing to look at.
"Achieved" . How is 60 fps an Achievement ? Any game can be 60 fps by lowering the graphics details on it.
I couldnt resist now, was £200 for the mk8 bundle which would then also grant a free game download so was a no brainer for me! Like you i havent had a nintendo home console for some time but im going to pick up windwaker as my free game (favourite zelda game to me) and buy super mario 3d world. That will keep me going while theres nothing of interest coming to my ps4 in the near future
Hit me up if you get one man. You seem to be one of the few intelligent people left on this site. I'd love to race ya.
Thank god those Neogaf "insiders" confirmed the Wii U to be the lead platform. What would we know without them?
for such an underpowered console that really is an achievement
60fps is a design choice. PS1 did 60fps
That's not at all how it works, it depends on pixel size. Pretty much any console could run a game in 1080p 60fps, assets quality would suffer however depending on the hardware. Mario got a very unique artstyle which doesn't demand very advanced textures or models though, which works just great for that kind of game
Not true, it's just you Xone and Ps4 gamers have your priorities mixed up. FPS > Graphics
Calm down, they are using "Microsoft 1080p" ie. Upscaled to 1080p!
Pretty pumped to play this game.
Damn Nintendo! That's surprising right here!
Can't Wait to pick this up.
look at that sad disagreer going through the comments, trying to help his butthurt
I'm really bothered that this article doesn't have more heat. This is great news for Wii U owners! Why aren't more people interested to see this? :/
Their loss. I'm sure the word will get out. Saying 1080p/60fps in this generation is always going to get attention.
I certainly hope so. It's a lot of what people talk about when it comes to Xbox One/PS4 games. If Wii U has 1080p 60fps games, and those factors are what people focus on, then those people should be paying more attention to it.
Imagine it was about Xbox…MY God, we won't hear the end of it!!!
Split screen on my 120 inch screen is going to be fucking stupid
I think you meant awesome.
"Stupid" was used in the 80's/90's to mean "cool" or, like you said, "awesome". That's what he was going for.
and I guess you didn't get what he meant lol probably proves most defending this are 14 and under...
@inthezoneAC I was born in 1987 and hell I've had my fair share but never used "stupid" like that. I think this is just one that isn't very clear.
not everyone here comes from an english speaking country and necessarily familiar with english slang.
The disagrees here show the age of the typical N4G-er, LOL
Just because some people didn't understand what I was saying doesn't change the fact that it's going to be amazing also using the gamepad it will be a three player game luckily I have three kids so they will all be able to enjoy this in a way that I never could when I was a kid growing up playing two players split screen since da Atari 2600 days
Stupid, gross, sick, disgusting, wicked, they all work.
You would have to be american and born before 1980. Used in rap mostly, alternative "bad" meaning good
That's a massively impressive accomplishment with the specs they're working with. 1080p, consistent 60FPS, detailed textures and backrounds, AND 2P split-screen? It actually makes me reconsider what the Wii U is fully capable of.
What are the specs they're working with? I thought it was all kept under wraps.
It still is. It's mostly speculation.
Nintendo hasn't released anything official, but we have hardware analyzers who took the thing apart and developer comments. Wii U, on paper anyway, is comparable to the Xbox 360 in most respects. Although with a more advanced GPGPU and slower CPU clock speeds. That's what makes this so stunning. MK8 is bright, colorful, animated, and detailed yet still apparently manages these major technical features. Resolution, framerate, and split-screen are very taxing on hardware and the most persistent compromises developers have to deal with during development. The PS4 isn't even consistently achieving these type of software specs together yet, despite far superior horsepower. It's really strange. I think I'm still a bit skeptical that they've managed native 1080p with all this. It could possibly be upscaled, and Eurogamer even mentions that they're not sure on that yet. It would still be impressive, though.
Blacklash93 - I am going to go out on a limb and say that the Wii U cores are a lot more efficient than the 360 cores. Hence the reason why they can be 1/3 the clock speed and still get the job done. Hell, most devs just take the 360 code and port it over without any form of opimization and the games ran admirably. Even the PS4/XB1 cores are clocked at 1.5/1.8 Ghz
@Neonridr Quote : Even the PS4/XB1 cores are clocked at 1.5/1.8 Ghz Nice spin, dude! Anyway, i really love Mario Kart.
@Neonridr It isnt much of a stretch to say the cores are better than the X360 ones.. Lets take Bayo 2 as an example of a similar game made on both platforms... Look how much better Bayo 2 looks and runs on the Wii U than the 360?
go play monster hunter and tell me it doesn't look like a smoothed out ps2 game...
MH3U on the Wii-U is a port of the 3DS game which in itself is an updated version of MH3 from the Wii, bad example.
Nintendo's Direct screenshots pretty much cobfirm the game won't be 1080p. Smash will at least.
@Neonridr The difference is in the architecture. PowerPC smokes x86/x64 when it comes to comparisons of equal clock speeds. Bigger numbers don't mean better results. This is a copypasta from someone that writes emulators as homebrew applications for consoles: I believe if you program only against one main CPU (like we do for pretty much most emus), you would find that the PS3/Xenon CPUs in practice are only about 20% faster than the Wii CPU. I've ported the same code over to enough platforms by now to state this with confidence - the PS3 and 360 at 3.2GHz are only (at best - I would stress) 20% faster than the 729Mhz out-of-order Wii CPU without multithreading (and multithreading isn't a be-all end-all solution and isn't a 'one size fits all' magic wand either). That's pretty pathetic considering the vast differences in clock speed, the increase in L2/L1 cache and other things considered - even for in-order CPUs, they shouldn't be this abysmally slow and should be totally leaving the Wii in the dust by at least 50/70% difference - but they don't. BTW - if you search around on some of the game development forums you can hear game developers talking amongst themselves about how crap the 360/PS3 CPUs were to begin with. They were crap from the very first minute the systems were launched - with MS hardware executives (according to some 360 'making of' book) allegedly freaking out when IBM told them they would be getting in-order CPUs for their new console - which caused them to place an order to have three 'cores' instead of one because one core would be totally pathetic (pretty much like the PS3 then where you only have one main processor and 6/7 highly specialized 'vector' SIMD CPUs that are very fast but also very low on individual RAM and essentially have to be able to do some heavy code weightlighting for you to gain anything). Without utilizing multithreading, you're essentially looking at the equivalent of Pentium 4-spec consoles that have to be helped along by lots of vector CPUs (SPUs) and/or reasonably mid-specced, highly programmable GPUs (which the Wii admittedly lacks). source: http://gbatemp.net/threads/... Now take the Wii's CPU of 729MHz, beef it up to 3 cores @ 1.24GHz, more cache and a newer architecture. Aside from that, the Wii U has some pretty fast memory. A developer I know that is in the process of making a eShop game for the system (can't go into specifics, but I assure you I'm not bullshitting) said that the memory speed would never be the bottleneck for the system. On top of that, the GPGPU also contributes to taking more stress off the CPU and is quite powerful. Really, this console isn't underpowered by any means. I can't tell you if it can deliver the visuals PS4 offers atm, but it sure as hell shits all over the 360/PS3 when you program for it correctly. It's laziness of the developers that are responsible for the low quality ports that have been appearing coupled with the fact that devs might not think it's worth it to optimize games for a console that isn't selling. Mario Kart 8 is proof of that, in-house devs showing how it's done..
Well stated DarkKaine. It's nice to see an intellectual comment on here for a change.
Can I get a bubble up
very well said DarkKaine, couldn't agree more.
@Blacklash93 As some one who owns X1,PS4 & WiiU i can tell u straight up that the wii u is more capable then people realise but to be fair Nintendo games typically are not major polygon crunchers/graphically intensive when compared to say BF4 and PS4 games. I can pretty much guarantee that if mario kart 8 or mario 3d world was on PS4 they would almost certainly be native 1080p at 60fps instead of up-scaled 1080p from 720p 60fps! For instance a game like infamous second son is pumpin more particle effects, native 1080p textures, high poly models/character models etc all at a steady 30fps native 1080p then mario kart 8 or mario 3d world! this is fact! Trust me more then likely MK8 is native 720p up-scaled to 1080p at 60fps! but the fact it runs at 1080p up-scaled ore not at 60fps even while in 2 player split screen is a amazing achievement! and proves wii u is more powerful then people realise! Don't get me wrong i LOVED Mario 3d world and have Mario kart 8 on pre order, hell i spent most of the end of last year gaming on my wii u with my kids while my PS4 sat idle. But constantly hearing gamers say wii u has more games which are 1080 60 is a fallacy. Yes it has good games and allot of them at 60fps etc but these games are no way near as technically demanding as some PS4/X1 games! If anyone can show me one game which is on wii u and PS4 and X1 while being at a higher native resolution and frame rate then the PS4 and X1 version then i will eat my foot! Don't get it twisted Mario 3d world is a technical marvel and looks stunning while performing like a champ but it could easily be done on the PS4 at native 108p 60fps! anyone who says other wise is delusional! while a game say like infamous second son or killzone shadow fall more then likely could not be done at the same performance level on wii u! That's the bottom line, anyway MK8 looks mind blowing! i love Nintendo for focusing more on 60fps over eye candy! i wish more developers would cut back graphics for a more stable better frame rate I think the Wii u is more then powerful enough to give us mind blowing HD experiences, Nintendo first party games look stunning in HD!
Well said, as beautiful as the Mario worlds are, they still don't require the graphics horsepower of say the world of Infamous: SS Unless I see the Wii U outperforming the X1/PS4 in resolution or FPS in the same titles, it's a moot argument.
Not impressed. Now if it was in 4k @120 playing a PS exclusive then it would be impressive. No body can touch PS devs. No Matter What. Plus this game looks kiddy . WiiU for kids, wake me up when a game like drive club come out.
Can't tell if sarcasm... sincerely hope so.
You mean the same Drive Club that runs 30fps? sure i'll wake you up.
Driveclub? You mean that game that's only 1080p/30fps? OT: This news shouldn't surprise anyone, MK8 looked amazing from day one.
Have fun with your superior 30fps Sony exclusive lol. If the Wii U is to kiddie for you it means your the one being a child. I'm guessing Infamous is considered a mature game in your eyes even though the gameplay is completely devoid of any challenge and designed for casuals and children.
wake me up when a game like Drive Club sells 30+ million like Mario Kart did last gen.
That's some trolling you are doing there. Neither console is going to push 4K. Computers can. Still, this is about Mario Kart 8. Which I can't wait to play.
Lol! I wonder how dumb your thirty first comment will be! I can't wait!
Thanks AJ I try. Its hard wit this bum phone keep messng upi what I'm writing . Still trying to find my style of trolling. What's funny is proving my point. Look at them below downplaying mk8 and comparing it to drive club. The desperation. Like Nintendo fans care about anything besides fun games. Fun games is what ninnty does best. Let them fight over being second best in gfx. Like they fought over 2and in gfx and 2and in popular console last gen.
Nintendo games are for everyone. Don't trivialize the console because you CHOOSE to overlook the fact that it also has: - Assassin's Creed III & IV - Call of Duty - Mass Effect - Deus Ex - Splinter Cell - ZombiU - Batman - Watch Dogs - Bayonetta 2 - Project Cars And a lot of the same Mature-rated games that the other consoles have. Still claiming that Wii U is for kids is the last gasp of the Wii-era "hardcore" gamers who are trying desperately to convince themselves not to buy a Nintendo console they really want.
With a bit of hard work it is possible on these consoles!
Its weird how ps4 and xb1 articles re game resolutions instantly hit 1000 degrees but confirmation that a WiiU game which has a lot going on at the same time runs 1080p @ 60fps and its cold and quiet. People are in denial that WiiU is a lot more powerful than they give it credit for.
Nintendo fans (including me) don't care as much. I still think it is awesome with 1080p but 720p would do good to.
Yeah I agree. Look at my post history im pretty much a Nintendo fanboy. I just find it interesting that the xb1/ps4 fans are only interested when its 1 of those 2 consolea having the res wars. That being said this article is now considerably hotter with way more posts than when I stuck my first 1 up. So often in life I end up going off prematurely...
I'm a ps4 and wiiu owner and I'm in hog heaven over this. Cannot wait til end of May!
Dont lump me in the same camp, dude. I'm a huge Nintendo fan and resolution and framerate matters a lot to me. So excited as hell that this game runs this smooth @ this resolution.
I think what's important is how fun a game is! I don't play spec's! Please don't forget that Miyamoto said the Wii U is upgradable. (Not that I care!)
It was never about the graphics. This Nintendo fan also doesn't care. It's cool I guess, but even if it wasn't, I doubt playing the game would be much different in any way substantial.
Not that it's really important, but it's possible the 1080p is upscaled, not true 1080p (read the article). The big thing to take away is the 60fps, which for a twitch (somewhat) game like MK, is needed.