According to an interview with Blake J. Harris, the general consensus from interviewees was that "Nintendo had you by the balls, and they knew it."
I wonder if it involved telling them to make games that are not broken or unplayable and make sure it's full of content... >_>
But there was still games that were broken and unplayable games on NES/SNES
Yeah Nintendo's official Seal of Quality sticker meant absolutely nothing as there were tons of horrible broken games.
You bet there were. Just ask James Rolfe.
Gaming had crawled out of dire straits I'm sure Nintendo just thinks of their seal as a designation.
"Nintendo Had a Dictatorial Relationship with 3rd-Party Publishers Back during the Fourth Generation" Howard Lincoln. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Nintendo Seal of Quality will be your answer.
Sounds about right... Publisher: We want to release the game early to meet our financial targets and we'll patch the bugs later. Nintendo: No! you fix them now! Publisher: We want to hold back some content and release it later as payed DLC. Nintendo: No! you not rob our customers! Publisher: We want to add always on requirement. Nintendo: No! We not lika dis! Publishers to media: Nintendo are evil dictators waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh....
I use to work for a third party and I remember our submissions for the N64 and Gamecube were torture. Not as bad as the stories I heard for the SNES and especially the NES. Nintendo would take weeks with approvals. Usually when MS or Sony rejects a submission they send a report detailing why and what to fix, but Nintendo...no way. Their reports were vague and offered nothing. We would have to submit a bunch of times and it would get frustrating especially if we missed our target date.
Yeah I agree with you there, I've also read this article from Eurogamer about "the secret developers: Wii U".. Developers we're having a hard time optimizing Wii U due to it's slow CPU but Nintendo isn't cooperating with them to fix the problem.. So I believe in your statement http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
That article was based on the first-set of dev-kits that shipped; before the improved ones came out. Just EG trying to stir up controversy. A lot of indies have came out and said how Nintendo has been very generous and helped them whenever they got stuck; so I don't see how some could get the needed tech-support while others don't. Doesn't add up.
That article was proven to be bull.
i like to think we did pretty good at sony. lol
Who did you work for and when?
Hmm interesting (Sasuke voice).
What is sasuke? your bf?
Itachi Uchiha's baby brother. Check this tribute vid out of Sasuke, maybe you will enjoy the anime/manga... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Now Itachi is my favorite character. Hopefully I'll get to unlock him in my jump vs victory game for my vita.
This really emo kid from this really emo ninja clan in Naruto Anime.
Sasuke is an absolutely garbage character in a terrible anime/manga series called "Naruto".
Naruto is trash but after coming this far with it I might as well finish it.
Sasuke is the most ridiculous piece of trash character in that entire manga/anime. Eeyore has a better personality than that loser.
@People stop being mean to him. If you're not welcoming him back then shut up :P
The modern day child whining that they have to deal with strict individuals at all.
wait does EA still think that this the fourth console gen and not the 8th?
If they did, they would probably develop a couple games for their system. Except today they have a choice.
when EA means 4th gen, they mean the 4th 3D console Gen. everything before the snes was considered 2d.
No they're trolling and are considering the psx and xbox the start of gaming just to spite
Ea said this is the fourth gen of 3d consoles
EA doesn't think it just churns.
Well; considering the large-amount of shovelware we saw wash up on the shores of the Wii & DS - I honestly wish they still had that approach. At least they're letting their guard down with Indies though; who obviously love both the Wii U and 3DS. So, that's a good thing. Quality Control isn't a bad thing; it's actually really good. It sets standards. Developers these days have all but lost those standards. There's a reason why most of Nintendo's top-tier titles get nice review scores and high rankings on Metacritic; they don't slouch. They iron out the bugs and polish the game BEFORE it's released. Developers these days can practically get away with murder. The ability to be able to fix a game, even once it's in the hands of the consumers, has made them incredibly lazy (ahem - BF4). It's just sad at this point.
There was still tons of shoverlware tripe on the NES/SNES so I don't unserstand that excuse, Nintendo back in those days were corporate bullies that tried to limit the success of 3rd party software, for that reason 3rd Parties HATED them, and that stigma still carries on to this day. 3rd parties were practically forced to deal with Nintendo because they had no other choice, so once more succesful consoles arrived like the Genesis and much later on the Platstation, 3rd parties had no problem turning their backs on Nintendo, as those consoles offered a much more relaxed policies on licensing.
Well; considering that I didn't exist in those days - my knowledge of their previous behavior is scarce. Thanks for the clear-up. Now I understand why 3rd-parties have been so way-ward with Nintendo; but even so, they've been incredibly cold as of lately. Still - two wrongs don't make a right.
The shovelware was a result of Nintendo dropping the Seal of Quality requirements in the gamecube days.
Quality Control means nothing in the face of profit. That's why Call of Duty is still around.
to AKR: I watch a lot of interviews with developers on YOUTUBE and some of the developers for big 3rd party studio's said both SONY and Microsoft were great to work with , when dealing with the PS4 and XBOX1, but the relationship with NINTENDO and the WIU practicaly did not even exist! They said NINTENDO did not even try to reach out to them, but SONY and Microsoft did!
The seal was main used to avoid a crash again it told people this was licensed games, they wouldn't break your hardware and they used alot of their power to stop over saturation of games by limiting the games developers could make per year. They had to do something to make sure that the atari crash didn't happen to them, but some of it was to make sure they were successful as well.
Indeed that shovelware approach never stopped . THe seal of Quality ? More like "we'll takes weeks or months to approve something that will remain buggy anyway" . Do people actually remember those consoles , or see through rosed tinted glasses ? There werent any less bugs , except on nintendo's own game .. and there was no way to patch it . It was just a way for Nintendo to have power and control things .
I think everyone knew this it's the reason why so many developers jumped over to genesis and practically made nintendo give up some of it's nes rules like the 2 year wait for games to be on other consoles. Then when the ps1 came out the developers had a console with a big fanbase and had extra storage for games so even more of the 3rd parties jumped ship.
Wow , i guess it is because i am older, but i thought it was common knowledge , that back in the NES days NINTENDO limited the amount of chips they would give to 3rd parties developers like KONAMI , so third parties games would sell less than first party games from NINTENDO ! Games like CONTRA would have sold way more copies back then, if it wasn't for NINTENDO holding 3rd party developers back ! That is a fact not a rumour!
Not really they didn't want to have another E.T. cover up in new mexico
to OL_G yeah you somewhat right about quality control for NES "ET 2600" (again because i am older ) to me the ATARI 2600 was done by 1980 not 1983 the year ET GAME was a big failure ! by 1980 their were more powerful systems on the market like INTELLIVISION , COLECOVISION , and HOME COMPUTERS ! But those sytems were priced over 200 dollars and up (like 450dollars today) so when NES came out ,it was like 150bucks and had best graphics and side scrolling , other systems at that time, including PCs could not do that! So by 1986 i went to BRADLEES and seen a NES system with lightgun and packed with MARIO for only 75bucks , So i bought it! , NINTENDO took over AMERICA in the mid to late eighties ! Around 90, SEGA GENESIS came out, packed with SONIC ! Me and all my friends bought the SEGA GENISIS because we new SEGA would put out a wider selection of games for adults ! NINTENDO by then had a reputation of not working with 3rd party studios! But i do have great fond memories playing games on my NES!! by the way for a great NINTENDO bio. people should check out on YOUTUBE 'ALL YOUR HISTORY NINTENDO" also for a great bio on ATARI you should check out on YOUTUBE "G4ICONS ATARI" also a fun fact NINTENDO means "LEAVE LUCK TO HEAVEN"
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