Submitted by xboxpete 486d ago | opinion piece

Why Has It Taken Dice So Long To Reintroduce Squad Join

Earlier today Xbox Players published the details of Battlefield 4 Squad Join, but here we ask a simple question Why Do This 6 months after launch?

Dice and EA have finally added a simple but very effective tool to Battlefield 4, and one that worked already in Battlefield 3.

So has anyone asked why it was dropped from Battlefield 4 in the first place ? (Battlefield 4, Dice, Industry)

BALLARD32  +   486d ago
I remember DICE basically refusing the idea when people were asking why it wasn't in by default. That's one of the big problems with DICE, they are way too insistent on doing things their way. It's their game and they have every right, but sometimes things don't work well and you just need to do what is best for the consumer.
Crazyglues  +   486d ago
Yeah it's crazy to me that game companies don't listen to gamers...

Sure you can't listen to everyone and some ideas are silly, but when everyone who plays your game tells you no squads are needed.. -and you still don't get it?

Something is wrong with how your company is making games...

Back when Bad Company 2 came out DICE was amazing, just nailing everything, and getting it so right. Today DICE is filled with a bunch of stupid ideas... and the game is more broke then it's ever been.

I never thought I would say this, but I guess I'll go back to playing Call Of Duty before I would pick up another DICE Battlefield disaster.

They grabbed up Danger close the guys who made Medal of Honor War-Fail (yes I know that's not the name but that's what I like to call it.) and called it DICE LA.. and ever since then BF4 has been a complete mess..

To me the worst part is every aspect of Battlefield was better in BF3 then it is in BF4

BF4 messed up the driving.. it's hard as hell to just drive the dam ATV
BF4 hit detection is still a joke, 6 months later
BF4 Destruction, LoL.. Lever - bullsh*t (there was more destruction in Bad Company 2..
BF4 Perk system is stupid as hell, just put it back to BF3 so I can put on squad run perk with-out guessing if it's working.

and on and on.... better in BF3 it was better in BF3

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Detoxx  +   486d ago
BF4 driving is just fine? If you find it hard, practice more lol.

Hit detection is indeed a joke.

Battlefield 4 destruction is absolutely superior to Bad Company 2 destruction. BC2 only had small 4 wall houses, bringing a house down just required destroying 3 walls.

BF4 perk system is also better, you can see from the bar (bottom left of your screen) how far you've progressed.

BC2 also had problems, took DICE months to patch it to what you remember as "good old BC2". Same goes for BF3.
Crazyglues  +   486d ago
@ Detoxx

it sucks compared to BF3, never had any problems driving in BF3
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amazinglover  +   486d ago
It really is a shame how bad Dice dropped the ball on this game. BF4 is a beautiful looking game with some intense MP action but all the problems really impact how much fun can be had. My main problem is every time I try to go back and give it another shot I sit in the lobby searching for games forever. Really makes me worried for the next Bad Company title which is what i'm really wanting.
BALLARD32  +   486d ago
Yeah, Bad Company 2 will always be one of my favorite multiplayer games. I wish I could've gotten a chance to play that beast with 64 players. I loved the gameplay, the destruction, the maps, and just the simplicity of it.
micx  +   485d ago
Bad Company 2 was awesome, but you could see DICE/EA's greediness rising with BF3 though. I never really liked BF3, it got too similar to CoD.
ukchi3f  +   486d ago
I still havent played this since december, and it sounds like ive blown £80 as so many still saying its not working
Majin-vegeta  +   486d ago
Idk man since the server upgrade I've been playing good.NS maps were unplayable nut now I can play flawless until region hoppers come in and lag up the gameplay.

Maybe give it another whirl.I;m on PS4 btw
Detoxx  +   486d ago
I've never had problems really. And the introduction of private servers is just epic! 64 player domination on locker hehe.

I'm on PS4 aswell.
ramiuk1  +   486d ago
on ps4 in decemeber i sent my game buy to shop to get full refund it was such a mess.
I rebought it 2 weeks back and its pretty much solid now,yeah few issues with no sound at start of games,no gun unless i switch,little rubber banding at times but its decent.

only annoying thing is i wish they would maybe reduce the player count or have a few rooms locked to 50players as ove 50 seems to be when the rubber banding gets worse.
dodgemoose  +   486d ago
Couldn't believe there wasn't a squad feature first time I played BF4. Same with classes. Seems like one step forward, two steps back.
KwietStorm  +   486d ago
Why would anyone be questioning anything about this game at this point? The answer is because Battlefield 4.
Ghost_Nappa  +   486d ago
This question is irrelevant, there is no acceptable reason for the omission of a basic feature of almost every online shooter.
sevilha82  +   486d ago
I´m gonna go with spending money and f***ing bitches...

Garethvk  +   486d ago
my theory is bug squashing and getting Star Wars ready for E3
dcj0524  +   485d ago
My theory is that the producer/manager of the team lost his shit.
GasTankKiller  +   485d ago
I wanted the Battlefield community as a whole to declare Bull-Sh!t on DICE when they kept saying their "new friend system" was better than the squad feature.

I would love to know why that bull-sh!t campaign of theirs changed overnight.
cyclindk  +   485d ago
I think apart from other reasons, the game should JUST NOW have been released... finally working reasonably well, and Squad Join "beta = wtf?!!!"

And the same idiot they decided to let design the menu, loadout UI stuff... unnecessary use of should buttons and triggers.... simple X and O and triangle and d-pad would have sufficed and been much quicker, not to mention the need for loadout preset slots for each class...
Ace Killa 08  +   485d ago
it was 2 steps forward and 6 steps backwards. A bunch of features missing that BF3 had hell even BC2. And I agree that the game should have been released now. Game works and fun, but still the headaches they gave me does not justify the price for both premium and game.

The sad part is they are making Star Wars Battlefront... and well THEY ARE MAKING Star wars battlefront... they lost credibility.
Black_spiral  +   485d ago
EA as a company has lost me completely. What they need to do is apologize to their customers for the inconvenience of having to wait 6 months for things that should have been day 1 fixes and for not owning up to their rushed and broken product. They also need to deliver on a promise that their further products will not be nearly as bad as the Battlefield 4 launch. Until that happens, they can make money off of other people, because as a consumer and a fan of their previous games, I feel let down, insulted and ripped off that my hard earned $60 + $50 premium payment was wasted on an unfinished and unfixed product. Not only that, even if it is fixed at this point, they failed to call the product what it really it is, broken, and they failed to own up to it and apologize for peoples money being wasted. I don't care about how sensitive or how snobby this sounds, but its the truth that their just floating on over without even respecting their customers statements. They deliver so poorly on feedback its not even funny. Disappointed.
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Ace Killa 08  +   485d ago
It is a bit unrelated, but ties into the idea of unfinished games.

I bought trials fusion on the weekend, without seeing a review, and greatly disappointment in the unfinished game. local multiplayer has only 20 tracks, DLC only applies to single player, and online play does not exist until a patch gets released.

Then we have BF4 that was buggy, crashing, lagging, unbalanced, server issues, lack of features including join squad in the menu and edit load out (the hell with battle log that app drains my tablets battery). The reason why BF4 was to be a sure by was for the name it had a battlefield name. This goes for trials also. But then the developers just think it ok to make a product much more less than the previous and throw the same price or higher. Which to us gamers is the middle finger. Both companies just went the cheap route and wanted to meet a deadline and give us a cheap quality games, only to go an update the game back to the standards they had.

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