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Submitted by bggriffiths 208d ago | opinion piece

Is Sony Slapping PS Plus Members in the Face with DriveClub?

Dealspwn writes: Earlier this week, DriveClub's new director Paul Rustchynsky responded to comments about the PS Plus Edition of the game to give readers some much wanted details about the upcoming racing game. When asked how the full-priced retail edition and the PS Plus version would differ he said: "The difference is that you only have 10 cars and you can only race in one country (which gives you access to 5 tracks with 11 distinct variants)."

It wasn't long before disgruntled gamers started to question the rather thin nature of the release, especially seeing as earlier interviews with Sony and Evolution implied that the PS Plus Edition would appear, by most standards, to have content akin to that of a full-sized game and the full-priced version was going to be more of an extras-packed version, something more like the special editions we see ahead of other releases. (Culture, Driveclub, Industry, PS4, Sony)

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johndoe11211  +   208d ago
Yes and no. As far as a free version goes, it actually has a decent enough amount of content for people to enjoy. The problem is that based on what we were told before, we were given the idea that we would have gotten a lot more content than we are being told now. I think they need to do something about this. People's expectations were set high because they told us to set them high.
ZodTheRipper  +   208d ago
johndoe11211: "we were given the idea that we would have gotten a lot more content than we are being told now"

Are you sure? What exactly has changed since the following statement one year ago:

"The only difference between the PS Plus edition and the boxed retail is that there's a scaled down version of content..."

"We haven't released specific details about what we're going to refine for the PS Plus Edition yet, but in terms of the gambit of features, you're going to be able to issue challenges, you're going to be able to do asynchronous online races, you're going to have all of the single player content in terms of events. The specifics we haven't gone into yet but you're going to have the full gaming experience."

They also said that they haven't decided all the specifics yet so maybe a few things have changed, but all in all I don't see the problem.
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johndoe11211  +   208d ago
http://www.computerandvideo...

Notice the term "a few cars/tracks". A few hints to the fact that most would have been available with the ps+ edition.

Again don't get me wrong, as far as free goes it is a very good deal but you can't ignore the fact that the way that sentence was phrased is in line with what we thought would have been available.

I'm gonna try it on plus because I've been looking forward to this game and I decided from day one to buy the full game if I liked it but I also cannot blame some people for being peeved.
ZodTheRipper  +   208d ago
So we are basically nitpicking on the wording of an inofficial forum post here? :D
I still think that this is closer to a full game than to a demo, and all that for a completely new IP where a lot of work has been put in. I honestly don't see any reason to complain and I most definately don't see any "slapping in the face" by Sony.
porkChop  +   208d ago
Strangely a very important part of that quote you posted has been edited out. The actual quote is:

"The only difference between the PS Plus edition and the boxed retail is that there's a slightly scaled down version of content..."

"Slightly". The quote sounds completely different when you add that word back in, doesn't it? When you give someone what is likely 10% or less of the full product that is hardly a "slight" difference.
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tbone567  +   208d ago
Sony promised only a few assets would not be available. Looks like Sony lied. Shameful. smh.
nicksetzer1  +   208d ago
The fact they are giving a major portion of one of their biggest games free at launch, I would say .... no. People are so entitled, expect everything for free.
mcstorm  +   208d ago
This is a bit of a random question but do you need to have ps+ to play driver club?
avengers1978  +   207d ago
@ mcstorm you need PS+ to play online multiplayer on PS4. With few exceptions like free to play games DCU, warframe, Blacklight, cause f2p games really are f2p on PS4
UziSuicide  +   207d ago
They said in the PS+ version you would be able get the Platinum Trophy, since then in the article above they've said you can't because the tour mode doesn't have all the tracks. Doesn't take a genius to work out that things have changed huh?

Also I wish people would stop calling it a demo, or even a large demo. it's not, it's no more than shareware, just like the games of old where you could play an episode of the game fully functional bar content for free. If they try and put this in as one of the monthly free games it makes a whole joke of PS+

No one would have cared if they had said this from the start, they didn't and over embellished on what you were going to get (enough content to complete the Platinum Trophy). Sony has been making a habit of telling tall stories this gen and I'm getting a bit fed up with it. Be honest, don't go changing things once a person pays for said service based on those promise and if you get caught out have the decency to fess up with a reasonable explanation.
Giul_Xainx  +   207d ago
I don't see a problem with this at all. All of my friends are the same. Who are the ones trying to bite off more than they can chew here? Honestly if you love drive club that much then SUPPORT YOUR DEVELOPERS BY BUYING THE GAME!

I really want to buy drive club, but I don't know what type of racing game it is going to be. I am very happy that they give you an AWESOME free sample. Plus 11 races to go have fun on. I have nothing but respect for these developers.
vallencer  +   207d ago
Honestly it just sounds like another case of whiny entitled gamers trying to get more then what was really said. I think the amount they give you for free is completely fine. They have to make money somehow right?
lelo  +   208d ago
"Is Sony Slapping PS Plus Members in the Face with DriveClub?"

YES.

It seems like Sony is giving away a bit more then a demo of DriveClub to PS+ members.

Until now the 50€ I paid for a year of PS+ on PS4 games has been quite disappointing. 50€ for indie PS4 games... 50€ wasted.
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CernaML  +   208d ago
Would you rather spend $60 on XBL and get nothing on the X1?
nanostar  +   208d ago
the 50€ also covers the free games on the PS3 and the Vita which sometimes are full games.

there's been so much given off the PS+ in terms of value.
Ginesis  +   208d ago
@CernaML Personally I dont pay for both PS+ and XBL looking for free anything. When I get Driveclub I'll buy the game not go for the free version. Honestly I wouldn't trust a free version of a racing game, I like racing games so I want full thing.
T2  +   208d ago
Don't hate just because you didn't take advantage of plus on ps3... If you did you would still be switching back and forth and have no worries... It's hilarious when people buy a new console and expect 50 AAA Game the first year
N311V  +   208d ago
Agreed.

My PS+ subscription ended not long after I got a PS4 and I don't see any reason to renew yet. I was expecting to renew when Driveclub became available but now I see no point, the PS+ edition is just a demo in my eyes.

I worry that glorified demos might become the norm now that PS+ is required to play online. Whereas PS+ used to be about subscribing to what was essentially a game rental service it's now about paying to play online.

Will Sony keep paying publishers a considerable amount of money to make games available to PS+ members if they don't need to?
jjonez18  +   207d ago
I wouldn't call getting access to the game without paying being "slapped in the face", even if it is little more than a demo.

Also you know they offer different skews for a ps+ subscription. 30/90/365 days. Don't plop down 50€ before you know what your getting yourself into. Ps+ for ps3 took a solid year or two before a steady stream of AAA games started dropping.

I have gotten the most out of my subscription because of the total. The games across my ps3/4 as well as multiplayer for my ps4.
s1lentone  +   207d ago
If DC is a slap then forza5 is a knee to the sack . I've Playing all of forza games and I say 5 is like paying full price for 1/3 a game. Then you have all of the microtransaction to buy cars and other stuff that should already have been there. So it's no not a slap. DC is a big project and ps+ version is a test drive.
killzone619  +   207d ago
@CernaML

forza 5 and titanfall run on dedicated servers thanks to the cloud so i would say $60 for xbox live was worth it.
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ghostface9  +   208d ago
Well its sony what do you expect they always over promise and under deliver
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Visiblemarc  +   208d ago
Yeah, I'm confused as to how anyone can disagree with you on this. The press last year from Sony seemed to indicate, essentially, a full game. They emphasized how the Platinum was possible etc. Now, after a long additional wait (almost a year by the time it launches) it seems like more of a sampling.

I'm not usually hard on Sony (or any company, I pretty much get all the systems) but in this instance, I don't love how this one was handled.
Kaizin514  +   208d ago
Your problem lies in what you said exactly: "The press last year from Sony seemed to indicate, essentially, a full game." - Sony never told us it was a full game, that was the interpretation of the press. Sadly, the interpretation was incorrect. I do agree it could have been handled better, both from Sony's end and the media's end of things. The press assumed one thing and Sony was saying something else (or at least meaning something else).

Personally, I never got the impression the full version of Driveclub was going to be given to us. To me, it felt like Sony saying: "We are releasing the PS4 and you get a FULL COPY OF GRAN TURISMO FOR FREE!!!". Obviously, this wouldn't happen, Sony is in it to make money like everyone else, if Driveclub is a complete game, expect it to be priced at a complete price, not free for PS+ members.
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T2  +   208d ago
This info is exactly what I remember from last year. Exactly. Never once did sony say you were getting full game for free
joab777  +   208d ago
Is it better that u pay $60 for limited content w/ microtransactions? At least we get some of the game w/ psn+. U cant reasonably expect them to give it all away.
onyoursistersback  +   208d ago
Lol!!!!!
The people here "bi______" are still going to download the free game/demo off PSN. And if they don't?!?! Then what's there/your problem?!?

Don't download the free game (rolls eyes) if you fell robbed.

If the once free game was then removed, then I would of felt slapped.
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Sevir  +   208d ago
Ive always know that this version was going to be stripped down... ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PS+ version launches DAY and DATE with the full retail version... it's not a typical PS+ game where it comes out 6 months to a year after its been on the market, its not even the case with it being like small indie games like resogun which sell for $14 and can be easily offset by Sony paying the devs for forgoing sales for a month...

This is a full $60 game with a 20+ million dollar budget, People cant expect the game to launch with that kind of a budget on day one and be free... especially now that the game missed the launch season buzz and is delayed 11 months, which almost certainly eats into the initial budget of the game...

This bitching and belly aching over this is silly, This game is essentially just like GT prologue, but you're not paying a dime for it if you have PS+.

10 cars, online and offline play with all the online modes except the full single player suit plus 11 tracks with 3 variations each? upgrades and customizations...

They've always said if you get the PS+ version then upgrading to the full version will cost you around $30/$40 so you'd still be paying less than the cost of entry for the FULL single player experience than those who just jump right in and buy the full game... so please tell me. WHATS the slap to the face to people who have PS+?

Entitled brats is what these moaners are...

and if xbox fans are trolling... please be quiet as Live's GWG program is laughable currently.
UziSuicide  +   207d ago
If you read the comments on the PS Blog post the official line is that the blu-ray is the best value method to purchase all content, or you can up upgrade the PS+ version.

Sounds a bit in reverse
Gamer1982  +   207d ago
TBF I think this is unfortunately going to be the evolution of PS+ since they now have to get games for 3 platforms and not 2 making it more expensive for Sony we are going to see more large "demo type" games and indies on PS4 rather than full blown games. At least until PS3 games sales die down so we are talking at least 2 more years here.
D3ATH_DRIV3R_777  +   208d ago
It's better than having 1 car and 1 track in the demo, so no! i don't see a problem with having 10 cars and 5 tracks with 11 distinct variants. Anybody have a problem with the PS+ version, is the ones that wants too much out it. Just buy the hard-copy then! leave the PS+ version to ppl that have sense that appreciates it. 10 cars and 5 tracks is more than enough for me to play this version before i buy it. Stfu dealspwn.com!
imt558  +   208d ago
Qoute from article :

Xbox 360 gamers that moved onto a PS4 are probably wondering what the hell all the fuss was about.

WTF? Who wrote this article?

Anyway, 10 cars and 5 tracks are enough for the start for trying a "demo" before buying a full game.
Muerte2494  +   208d ago
I don't know if I'm just old (27) but i remember "DEMOS" only gave you one car and one track (Gran Turismo 5 prologue demo). Here you're getting 10 cars and 5 track ( one region) for free. I don't see why people feel entitled. If you want more, then guess what, BUY THE DAMN GAME AND SUPPORT THE DEVELOPERS. what's the point of releasing a retail version if they just gave you everything via PS+. Evolution would actually lose money for putting it on disc in that case. There seems to be a bunch of whiney, little, spoiled brats early this generation.

You do understand these developers are spending time away from their families. This is time they won't get back. You're not spending any money and there isn't anyone forcing you to download it. (sigh)
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imt558  +   208d ago
Quote :

There seems to be a bunch of whiney, little, spoiled brats early this generation.

Probably author of this article is spoiled brat.
Salooh  +   208d ago
Don't mind if some of early AAA games are like this but after one year we must get full games ^^ . We are getting a new AAA game in ps+ in it's first day it release so i'm ok with whatever i get ^^. If i liked it i will buy it.
ColeMacGrath  +   208d ago
I guess its because everyone loves the idea of free full games.
PS4 has only been out for almost 7 months, they should be glad they're even getting freebies. WiiU and X1 don't have this.

"BUY THE DAMN GAME AND SUPPORT THE DEVELOPERS."

I don't wanna sound like a douche but Sony actually pays devs for adding their games on PS Plus therefore you're kinda supporting the devs by already paying for your membership.
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Muerte2494  +   208d ago
@ColeMacGrath

Not if the game flops though. Can anyone say Zipper Inc.
cyclindk  +   208d ago
Muerte and imt ... You old geezers :D
Mega24  +   208d ago
You and me come from a simpler generation, we didn't get much but we enjoyed every single minute of them, I remember them ps1 demos, that had Tomb Raider, Crash, and Twisted Metal with about 10 trailers of other games, this generation is ruining gaming, with their entitlements, asking for a lot, and don't even want to spend a cent or their parents money (yeah I went there). It's a miracle that sony is even giving free game in its launch window of its new console, I didn't even thought they would give free game, even if they are "Indies", people like the author of this article need to calm themselves down. I prefer to a demo with a digital discount to a f2p with microtransactions.
liquidhalos  +   207d ago
I think people are upset because until now you have been getting 1 free full game for your PS+ sub on ps4. Now they see it as getting 1 free demo instead of the free game. Also for people without a ps3 or vita its a bit rubbish to only get a demo when those with other systems will be getting a demo plus all the goodness of the ps3 ps+ games.
HyperBear  +   208d ago
I honestly think that Evolution Studios should have just stayed with the Motorstorm franchise and develop a brand new one for the PS4 launch, instead of DriveClub. That game was so awesome to play on the PS3 when it launched, and just imagine what a Motorstorm game would look like with all the extra horsepower and memory of the PS4.

Hopefully their next game after DriveClub is Motorstorm!
ZodTheRipper  +   208d ago
You didn't even try it, what if Driveclub is "so awesome to play" as well? I also want another Motorstorm and I'm almost sure they'll make one eventually but I'm also intersted in Driveclub.
pwnsause_returns  +   208d ago
its not good for devs to stick with one franchise...it will tire out eventually.

TLOU gave ND a fresh breath of Air to the studio, the consumer, and the Uncharted Franchise after 3 games.
ginsunuva  +   208d ago
"tire out"

Lol
pwnsause_returns  +   207d ago
I know great pun
Philoctetes  +   208d ago
Anybody who's disappointed with 10 cars / 5 tracks had stupidly unrealistic expectations to begin with. Sony was never going to give you a full, brand-new AAA title for free. Come on.

I'm looking forward to playing this. Depending on how the free stuff turns out, I may buy the full version.
porkChop  +   208d ago
They aren't stupidly unrealistic expectations. Sony and Evolution originally said the PS+ Edition would only have "slightly" less content. That was the promise they made. No one asked them to, they did that on their own. People were expecting them to deliver on what they promised, and they aren't.
MonsterChef  +   208d ago
@porkchop those people are stupid to have believed that, when ever I heard about this game at the reveal I knew for a fact that the free version would be a beefed up demo and had no problem with it, I knew I would want to buy it and support the devs and Sony
Lord_Santa  +   207d ago
How entitled can you be? They're giving you a portion of the game for free and you're complaining about it not being enough. The devs need to make money somehow, they're not about to give away a game they've toiled for years making for free.
liquidhalos  +   207d ago
It's not being stupidly unrealistic to question value. Why that month can't I have a full free game for my sub? Why does my sub only get me a demo?
Eonjay  +   208d ago
No its still free and it looks amazing.
porkChop  +   208d ago
The PS+ Edition is not what was originally promised. They said it would be nearly the full game and would only have "slightly" less content. 10 cars and 5 tracks, can't earn many trophies, can't finish the tour, etc, is not a "slight" difference. I would rather just get a full game instead, be it indie or AAA. It's cool that people can try out the game but this is essentially a demo with a few trophies to collect. Not a practice I want Sony to adopt for future PS+ offerings.
Muerte2494  +   208d ago
Don't download/buy it. Evolution isn't pointing a gun to your head. Don't see how people complain about "FREE". Quick question for you. What incentive are they suppose to offer to upgrade if you get a "nearly" full game? Within the first month of launch the only incentive to purchase the full copy would be DLC. Only then you'd complain they they intentionally left this DLC out to bleed people of more money.
liquidhalos  +   207d ago
It's not free when we pay a monthly subscription charge for the privilege. We were told it would be most of the game, we were lead to believe It was a ps4 release game. Now it's almost a year late and only a glorified demo. Ps+ for ps4 has dropped the ball. Thank god I'm lucky enough to also have a ps3 for ps+ otherwise I'd be very annoyed.
Delsin_Rowe  +   208d ago
They never said is going to be like the full game, they said it will offer less than the original version. Plus Sony woulda never offer the first party exclusive free unless it bring less than what it offer. Is not a demo since you can play online, single mode and a demo always offer 2-3 cars with 1-2 track so you can call it a demo. If you can find the page where it tell you it offer more, so included in your next comment replying to me. What you except, you want them to give a full game that cost them millions of dollars and just give it free almost the entire game because if it was like that then no body would buy retail version. Why won't you just get the full version then?. I really dislike people who complain for a free game, at least they are given it free so be thanksful and I am always glad, we received free games and this is their (first) First party game that is free on plus on release, PlayStation never done that before with their other games. :)
porkChop  +   208d ago
Yes they did say it would be close in content to the full game. They said:

"THE ONLY DIFFERENCE between the PS Plus edition and the boxed retail is that there's a SLIGHTLY SCALED DOWN VERSION OF CONTENT...

We haven't released specific details about what we're going to refine for the PS Plus Edition yet, but in terms of the gambit of features, you're going to be able to issue challenges, you're doing to be able to do asynchronous online races, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE SINGLE PLAYER CONTENT IN TERMS OF EVENTS. The specifics we haven't gone into yet but YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FULL GAMING EXPERIENCE."

http://www.videogamer.com/p...

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That's what they originally promised. "Slightly" less content and that we'd have access to ALL single player events. Yet now we're being told we can't finish the DriveClub Tour, which means we can't get that trophy effectively blocking us from the Platinum, and we only have access to "part" of the single player.

"and even play through PART of the single-player game and unlock Trophies as well."

http://ca.ign.com/articles/...

"Simply because the PlayStation Plus Edition doesn’t include all of the cars and tracks that you’ll need to complete DRIVECLUB Tour."

(Comment 52.1)
http://blog.eu.playstation....
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asyouburn  +   208d ago
Go buy the damn game if you want platinum, dude. Evolution doesn't owe you a free plat, or anything for that matter. Especially if you want the whole game for nothing. GTFO
IndoAssassin  +   208d ago
Man PS gamers complain way too much. I've been sitting here with an Xbox One for 6 months now and I still haven't gotten a free game with my live account. Yet I don't hear a single complaint feom the Xbox fanbase. I was promised something by April but still no word. :(
TFJWM  +   208d ago
Some gamers complain about anything and they want as much as they can get for free. I've been very happy with PS+ thou I also have a PS3 and vita. PS4 offerings have been decent overall, who expects a full free AAA game this early after launch thou... As for XBox fanbase I see people posting in articles on N4G all the time complaining about when they are getting a free Xbox1 game so not sure what you are talking about there.
Ginesis  +   208d ago
I agree! Honestly, I didn't purchase XBL or PS+ expecting anything free.
lsujester  +   208d ago
I know. Some of these whiny brats demand nothing less than a brand new, full game every single month. They want hundreds of dollars worth of games for all three systems or it's not good enough for their $50.
Lord_Santa  +   207d ago
You shouldn't paint all PS gamers with the same brush, but there is a section of them who feel like they are entitled to getting free stuff. I hate those brats.
theXtReMe1  +   208d ago
http://www.computerandvideo...

Posting on NeoGAF, design director Paul Rustchynsky responded to a query about the availability period of the PS Plus version, saying it "will be available well into the new year" and confirming that a discount will be offered to those upgrading to the full version from the PS Plus version.

"There will be a discount to upgrade to the full digital edition from the PS+ edition," he said, " but prices won't be announced for a few more weeks yet".

Rustchynsky also listed what the PS Plus version entails: "When you upgrade from the PS+ Edition you get the full digital edition which doesn't require a PS+ subscription."

"You can earn the platinum trophy in the PS+ Edition, remember its the full game minus a few cars/tracks," he explained.

He also confirmed the studio is "working on a photo mode" for the game and "on alternative solutions for trying to get the highest quality vids" for players to upload.

"You guys wanted uncompressed footage and obviously the PS4 capture utilises some form of video compression to ensure the videos aren't ridiculously large (the raw direct feed videos we captured are 6GB for 2 minutes of footage)," he said.

Finally, Rustchynsky said there'll be "no split-screen" in either version of Drive Club.
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bggriffiths  +   208d ago
That was in September last year. In the comments section of the cited article (from this week) in the Dealspwn feature, the same guy says you can't get the Platinum Trophy with PS Plus Edition.
theXtReMe1  +   208d ago
Yeah, that was what I was trying to point out. What they are giving Plus members now, with the PS Plus edition, is not what they said they were giving us back in September. They said and I quote in my post, "the PS Plus edition would be the full game minus a few tracks and cars." Now, we are getting a few tracks and cars, minus the rest of the game.

To an outsider, this would look like bait and switch in order to get people to buy into PS Plus when the PS4 launched. Once people already had their membership, they switched the PS Plus edition to be not much more than a glorified demo that you can earn a few trophies in.

I'm not saying this is what they did, but from the outside looking in, it would certainly look that way.

I could care less either way, though I can understand why some people are upset. I think quite a few people had bought PS Plus because they thought they were getting this as almost a free game. At least something they could play the entire way through and earn a platinum trophy with. Now, they are getting a small portion of what was originally stated they would get.

I have no doubt Sony will rectify this and allow Plus members to upgrade to the full version for 20 or $30. Which is fine by me. I'd rather pay 20 or $30 for the game, then to pay 50 or $60. I think that would be a good faith gesture by them, as they kind of put their foot in the mouth with the original promise and can obviously see where people are coming from with their concern.
amnalehu  +   208d ago
The "PS+ Edition" is just that; a FREE version of Driveclub, complete with trophies (demos don't have trophies) and all the features of the RETAIL edition of the game. No one was ever promised anything other than a FREE PS+ Edition for PS+ members.

If you and your PS friends never want to buy the full version, you will have 10 cars with 5 tracks to race on and enjoy for FREE. The PS+ Edition was NEVER advertised as being a FULL version of the game.

Also, from my understanding, PS+ member will also get a discount on the full version of the game when they upgrade. Where is the downside here?
Delsin_Rowe  +   208d ago
Amen to you brother, listen he saying the truth and let's enjoy but not complain.
Makkanchor  +   208d ago
I will get a ps4 when theres some ps4 games do come out
ocelot07  +   208d ago
Not at all. It is a full game full offline and online features. Just with 10 cars and 5 tracks. Not bad at all for a FREE!! game. Now there is going to be a upgrade offer via the store. So depending how good the game is and how much the update offer is ill most likely buy the update.
kevinsheeks  +   208d ago
There you guys go tossing that word free around again lmao like ps+ doesn't cost anything lol getting defensive towards anybody who feels lied to which they should

a few of you like to say some of these users sound like paid xbox shills a few of you sound like shills as well lol

using that word free to back down anybody that doesn't agree lol
gigoran  +   208d ago
Right, because games for gold is free. Oh wait... Totally not! So why is it ok for Xbox owners to claim free but not sony user? Oh... My mistake... Fanboy drivel. Please continue.
PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   208d ago
What's the problem ? 10 cars and 5 tracks for free. That's an awesome deal. Try it and if you like it buy the hard copy simple as that.
gigoran  +   208d ago
No. They are not. They DIDNT have to make any of it free! They are doing it for the gamers. Letting them have a taste of one of the best racers to come in years. Oh yeah, I remember when forza made a large portion of its games available to Xbox owners for free... Oh wait, that totally NEVER HAPPENED!

This is more than just a demo. This is basically like the gt prologues, except its FREE! Why complain? I've never in the life of me seen anyone complain about FREE STUFF!

The makers are like "oh hey, we got this awesome game and we think you would love it, and we want you all to enjoy it, but we can't just give you the game because we are in the business of making money just like all other developers, but we love it so much that we are releasing a fully functional portion of the game to you for free so you can enjoy it. And if you like it please feel free to buy it." And these... Idiots... Are like "GIVE ME THE WHOLE GAME!"
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OrangePowerz  +   208d ago
Sony wouldn't be required to give anything away so people should appreciate a bit more to get a downscalled version with 10 cars and 5 tracks.

Given that it was never really announced what content would be included with the + version, except that you can earn all the trophies, nothing has changed.
Kurisu  +   208d ago
If Evolution offered the full game free on PS+ then how would people expect them to make money? The game surely wasn't cheap to make, they're not working for nothing. At the end of the day it's down to business and it's the retail copies sold that = profit which funds the next project. If you have PS+, download it for free. If you like it, buy it. The option is there for both so I don't really see why people have a problem with this.
People like to complain about nothing because they have nothing better to do.
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lemoncake  +   208d ago
Seems like the extra money needed to develop it has taken it beyond what they are willing to give out to ps plus members. The offering now seems more like a very generously sized demo, which personally is all I would probably play as I dont like racers too much.
kevinsheeks  +   208d ago
it's less of an issue about what were getting and more of an issue about how sony worded it and played on the hype until now

here is an article I know how much you guys love facts http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

I can keep pulling them up I didn't let microsoft bs me with the always online crap I won't let sony use pretty words to bs me either

You guys have to stop looking at these companies as good and bad their only goal is money and if that just so happens to work out in the consumers favor so be it if not oh well
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bggriffiths  +   207d ago
Well said, it seems everyone here has forgotten about them saying these things, which raised my expectations of the PS Plus edition in the first place. But yeah, facts give trolls sore bellies.
moodymofo  +   208d ago
i really dont care. i knew from last year even before the ps4 had launched that the plus version was basically a glorified demo and was gonna buy the retail version anyway
mondofish  +   208d ago
It's free. Quit whining. Nothing free is a slap in the face, except for a legit slap to the face..

All those crying deserve a legit face slapping.
sic_chops  +   208d ago
Doesn't bother me at all. They spent extra time making the game better and that costs money. Ten cars and five tracks to me is enough for a free version.
bobsmith  +   208d ago
I hope it doesnt ruin the game for people who buy full game, by those same tracks showing up way more often in multiplayer.
RosweeSon  +   208d ago
Beggars can't be choosers it's free, more than you get for nothing out of Microsoft. Xbox one games with gold still missing in action, yet Microsoft yeah it'll be in the new year, it's already may! Tight fisted, at least this is still free if you want more you pay, simples.
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   208d ago
Can't stop haters from reading between the lines... To get their slanted version on what was said out there...Only here on N4Xbox...
BBBQ_BYOBB  +   208d ago
Don't care. I don't even think they should give away a retail release game when it launches, it's crazy. They are better off giving indies and older games that aren't selling well anymore. We pay $5 a month and get about 4-5 games every month. You're paying $1-$1.25 per game, it doesn't make any sense at all for them to give you a full $60 game on release. It's amazing that people are complaining about it at all.
Bengaroo  +   208d ago
What a silly article.

Driveclub was always going to be a smaller/lesser version for the free version.
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Scatpants  +   208d ago
This is about what I would expect of a free version I don't see why people are whining and crying about this. They never said exactly what you would get except for the fact that they said it wasn't a full version. For some reason people seem to have gotten the idea that it would be 95% of the full game. That's just being unrealistic.
AceBlazer13  +   208d ago
This 'free' game has more content than $40 Ground Zeroes. I think we have our sense of entitlement a bit wobbly.

Wouldn't giving the game away free be s slap to those willing to pay for it? Be grearful your getting a good dose of the game for no extra charge.
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