The Beyond crew weighs in on this maligned feature of the otherwise superbly designed Dualshock 4.
I dont have a problem with the lightbar, I have a problem with the battery life
90% of gamers think it's the cause of the low battery life.
but how wrong they are . Its the touchpad and arnt the buttons digital now,unlike the DS3 which was analogue
Probably because someone posted the results of them testing with and without the light bar hooked up and the controller lasted much longer without it hooked up.
It's not a bad thing. Just give us some compelling reason to have it, then everything will be OK. Same for Kinect.
Its because the battery is smaller, Ps4 has only 1000mAh to ps3 1800mAh.
I disabled my light bar and my battery life is pretty good.
@bradfh the dual shock 3 only had a 570mah battery, not 1800.
@lazy The original sixaxis and DS3 had a 570m/a battery. After the slim PS3 release the battery was upped to an 1000m/a battery. 1800m/a batteries are available, but not sure if any DS3's come equipped with them from Sony.
I think we should be able to turn it off if we want to.
how would you know it is on?
It this a serious question?
I agree! Being that I don't have a camera for my PS4, the light being on is just pointless. All it does is drain my battery. I'm not sure what type of battery is in the controller? I use Duracell NiMH 2400mAh rechargeable batteries for my xb1 controller, and it lasts forever. I also have the turtle Beach X07 headphones for my xb1, and the controller still lasts a very long time. In other news, I finally beat Second Son earlier :-)
Well most PS4 users don't have a camera and we would like the ability to turn it off since it serves us no purpose whatsoever without one. Although I did use it as a flashlight the other day when the power went out..
It's purpose is to tell you which controller is player 1-4.
@BitbyDeath If the purpose is to just tell you which controller is player 1 through 4, then it's the shittiest design going. What was wrong with the small red LEDs that were placed under the numbers 1-4 to whatever player it was assigned to? Since when has the colour blue meant player 1, and whatever other colours represent players 2 through 4? I sit near a window and sometimes the blue light will reflect off the glass and catch me off guard, thinking there's something going on outside. It's a distraction, but not AS bad as people make it out to be.
Thats the only issue I have ever heard about. I love the lightbar. Its cool looking and actually practical. I hav never had an issue b/c I have 2, use standby and rotate. But, the update is nice. The lowest setting isnt so low that its gone but will help with battery life.
actually it will have virtually no effect on battery life, its the digital buttons and crappy low power battery that hurts the life of the controller.
Because it's a reminder that Sony intended to include the camera for $500 and did a 180 at the last moment because they felt they needed a price advantage
That's retarded the camera doesn't retail for $100 it's like $50 or $60...which means you think Sony would have expected a 80% mark up with bundle ...Really people...who thinks that they would have actually marked it up by $40 to $50 for no reason what so ever. They changed their mind because they knew they had to beat the price by a good margin to really stick it to MS and $50 difference doesn't have the same impact as $100. That's all...so can we move on from this subject. Also the damn light is an LED so no it's draining the battery that much...LED's are energy efficient. It's the digital buttons and digital touch pad that are power monsters.
Pulling crap out yer butt. That was no intention or info of Sony doing that. Xbox maggot
The LED's have been confirmed to draw about 50mA of juice, which isn't necessarily huge, but with a 1000mAh battery it matters. It probably takes off about 2-4 hours of battery life because of it. I think the biggest reason people don't like the light.. is that we cannot turn it off. Some people want to turn it off because of the extra battery drain, others might get reflections on their TV. For whatever reason somebody doesn't want it on I don't see why we should be forced to have it on all the time, especially if there is no use for it unless you use the PS camera. Although I did come up with an interesting way to increase the DS4 battery life by about 300%. http://www.amazon.com/Goril... Cost $20 and adds an extra 2800mAh to the DS4 battery. It fits on the back of the controller vertically without getting in the way and weighs hardly anything. I just plug it into the USB of my controller (it comes with the right connector out of the box) and I get tons of extra juice, all while being completely wireless and mobile. So instead of my controller dying once every two days, it should last as long as my DS3 controller did, about a week with several hours a night of playing. And when the external pack gets drained, I just unplug it and charge it up with my smartphone charger, and in the time it takes for it to charge I can keep using the DS4 which now has a full battery. If somebody were to come up with something like this but also sell it with an inventive way of attaching it to the controller, that would be a great product idea since the DS4 battery life leaves much to be desired.
The only "study" I've seen into it suggested they ran about 50m/a. That seemed excessive since the brightest LED I've ever seen for sale in the same class tops out at 30m/a. The study itself was questionable since there seemed to be no real control. I don't know if there's anything out there, but it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to get the actual specs of the LED. That kind of thing can be measured with a multi-meter, and there's likely a product code on the light itself. I don't care to take apart my DS4 to check myself though.:) It's possible the control circuits and LED could draw that much power though. Here's the only one I've seen that's tested this in any ways. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Even he admits his findings don't match up with actual real world practice. I think too much is being made of the battery life being drained for the light. It's probably somewhere in the middle. That battery you posted isn't bad, but you can buy a 1800m/a for half the price, and should bring the battery life up to 12-20 hours. Guess it depends on if you want to open up the controller.
It reflects on my TV :(
This. It's bad on Thief when the bar turns white, all you can see is the bright reflection but it's better now that the dimming is in place.
Agreed. TV reflection AND battery life.
Ive never seen it im into the game lol
You must sit very near to your TV for reflection to happen
I don't like that it sits there glowing while I'm trying to watch Netflix.
In the dark it is pretty visable imo.
And thats what I like actually.
I personally don't need it/care about it. But if its the responsible for the short battery life, i would like to be able to turn it off
yes its way to bright i want to either turn it off and dim it but dont want it to affect battery life
Cause people like to complain about everything and are never happy!
I have a problem with it because I have absolutely no use for it. And when I play in the dark it's so bright it lights up the room and it shows on my tv.
The reflection seems to bother a lot of people, luckly I don't play during night.
play it with the lights on problem solved
That's not fixing a problem, it's just a solution. Lots of people play in the dark. No one should be forced to change their lighting conditions just to play a videogame, because if they don't - they'll get an immersion breaking glare back off their TV.
Playing in the dark is bad for your eyes. Causes a lot of eye strain. Well lit is recommended. I personally have a dimly lit room myself, but wearing contacts and playing long sessions can cause me headaches. I don't have that problem if I keep the lights up. It's not really a solution to the problem, but it does have other health benefits. Older people would probably notice the room lighting difference more than the younger set.
If dimming helps battery life, great. If not, it's never bothered me.
I love it but I can see why some don't. Dimming helped, but I guess some want to be able to turn it off.
Becauese people find every little thing to complain about its the internet afterall.
I like the lightbar, but after I updated my PS4 this morning, I set the lightbar to "dim" to save on battery life. It didn't dim it much, but better than nothing, I guess.
Because they want to find any little thing to talk negative about the PS4. I like the light bar its pretty awesome. It would be cool if we can set it to a custom color in a later update
If dimming provides some extra battery life, then great. I personally love the light bar.
I think a lot of gamers have yet to see a good implementation of the lightbar as of yet. Personally I love it, the way it was used in outlast for example where it would flicker green when the night vision flickered really helped with immersion when playing in the dark
Totally agree, I like it. It was cool in outlast and tomb raider. Plus it's actual purpose is for the Morpheus to use it with the camera later. Until then it's just a cool little feature to me. I've never had a single problem with it. I still don't even dim it. I don't see a point to even bother with it.
Yeah I'm the same, I'm never sat in a position where it glares off of the TV screen and I actually quite like the blue vibrance it gives in the dark
It's funny how a light bar bothers people so much. They need to update the PS4 with 3D Blu-Rays. IMO The Wii U made the PS4 & X1 be rushed out incomplete, but they both play games and that's why I bought them.
3d is dead man they arent even bring out new tvs
3D is standard in all new TVs that are 1080p 240hz and up. If you buy a 4K TV it will have 3D. I just started playing GOW 3 in 3D on my Samsung 8000 and it's amazing.
Um yeah no vizio and others announced their t.v. line ups for 2014 and also dropped 3d support l, not all but most have, That trusted review article was wrong.
Low end or budget tv's wont have 3D. Medium to high end quality tv's will have 3D. 3D is like smart tv functionality a standard thing now.
You guys will complain about anything, smh.
i like it.... and its a nice fancy feature the shows the japanese origin of the console
What's japanese about if i may ask?
Light bar is the most useless invention ever. First of all you don't see the light since your looking at the TV and the light is behind the controller. Second of all it waste a crap load of battery life. Let us turn it off completely and i will be happy.
people like having something to moan about
When I first heard of this over a year ago (approx). I was bothered by it. My initial fear was realized. The first game I planned on buying with my shiny new PS4 was Thief. I play in a dark room and sit in front of a 50" plasma. I imagined the blue light reflecting off the screen and ruining the immersion, and being a distraction. Fast forward to now.... I was right. I tried it, and it did what I thought it would. I promptly covered it with black electrical tape. I still don't see why it even needs to exist. You can't even see the light bar without tipping the controller up in an unnatural position to play. It seems their intention was to use it's reflection off the screen. There should be an on/off switch for it. All we got was an update to "dim" it. But it still reflects. Nothing like having to modify a new $60 controller.
I have never had a problem playing in the dark with it. Never any gleaming off the screen or anything. My hands are more or less on my lap. Not held up high so the controller is directly in front of the tv. I'm not trolling, I'm just generally curious why some people have problems with the light aside from a perceived battery issue.
I'm no expert, but I think it's safe to conclude that maybe people hold a controller differently to you. Shocking, I know.
The screen of a plasma TV is glass. An LCD and LED are matte finished. It would show less glare. But trust me when I say it. I might as well have a flashlight pointed at my screen.
It's superfluous and drains battery. If a game needs it ill turn it up. Until then I wanna play longer on a single controller.
agreed, my batt drains really quickly. I pretty much have my DS4 plugged into the mains all the time. Hope it doesn't damage my controller when I do that.
I would like the option to turn it off to preserve a little bit of battery. Plus, I don't really need it. I don't have a camera and my girlfriend and I have 7 consoles in our home. It's not necessary for us to know who is which player.
i think its a nice feature i dont get what the fuss is about
Does no one else read sony articles/interviews? The light bar is there specifically for project Morpheus from what I've read multiple times. The PS4 and DS4 were all being designed with the Morpheus in mind. It will factor in with that and the camera. That being said, as of right now it's next to useless and we should have the ability to turn it off. I personally enjoy it when it's used interestingly, like in tomb raider. But I have 2 controllers and a nyko charging dock. So battery life isn't an issue for me unless I place it on the dock quickly and the connection isn't made properly. So.... PROJECT MORPHEUS FOR THE WIN
I don't get it either. I know it reflects the color to your screen, but as soon as something going on, I barely notice anything.
I like it!