The Kinect doesn't need to be a liability. It could actually be really cool.
It can go from awful to awesome by just giving people the option of if they want to own it!
Ther is an option to own X1 and crappy Kinect 2, but most are going for PS4 and the option of PSeye(which wocks great).
PSeye wocks as well as your spelling kid.
For all those saying that the Kinect is not worth the price of admission, I could argue that neither system is worth the price right now. Both systems are lacking in must have software. I know this has been said over and over but wait until E3. MS has already said they have new Kinect experiences in the work. Will it be must have? Time will tell. I'm once again going to point out how ridiculous it is to see PS4 fanboys constantly commenting in Xbox One articles and what would be best for MS and the Xbox One. Do you guys really care that much about a system you have no vested interest in? It's sad really.
@denawayne It's refreshing to hear a more neutral opinion on the matter. Anyway, I actually want a PS4 now because it is cheaper and because it has some games I actually do want to play. Indies, InFamous, the upcoming splurge of big titles this Fall, I'd love to have a PS4 for those reasons. With Xbox One, I wouldn't mind getting one later, but I don't think I could buy one at $500 without getting a heavy feeling of buyer's remorse lol.
@randomass171 - Wow, look at us having a rational conversation. I would love to buy a PS4 but not only can I not afford it but I don't have the time for two systems. I went from the PS1 to the original Xbox because I was intrigued by the controller layout and Halo won me over. I tend to like FPS. I don't think you would have buyers remorse if you bought the Xbox One but I also think owning both systems is a little overkill unless you have a ton of time. It's funny cause my good friend was one of those people who jumped on the hype train and jumped from the 360 to the PS4. He asked if I was dissappointed cause we won't be able to game online together. I said heck no, now i can play the Sony exclusives now.
Kinect is awesome.....thhose that hate on it don't even own an x1 and reads nothing but lies and fud on the internet. When Kinect had games on the x360 everyone says it was a joke. Now it doesn't have as many games and folks still hate on it. Cortana voice assistant is coming to Kinect. Smmart Home app coming. AR Glasses coming that works with Kinect. All these things it has over the competition camera it's laughable.
This is exactly how I feel about it...I guess everyone has their own opinion, but I refuse to believe that anyone that has actually given it a fair chance would call it and Awful Joke or whatever. I don't even Kinect Game (although I did pick up KSR cause I was actually super impressed when I played it at a friend's house...wasn't planning on grabbing that one...don't like the Soccer game though). I love it for all the OTHER things it does...now it feels like all my other systems are missing something. It's so damn easy to get my XB1 up and running Hulu or Tv or whatever without ever touching a controller if I'm doing something else or eating...may not sound like much, but trust me you get hooked on it quick...esp once you teach yourself all the voice commands (life hack...make the command list the wallpaper on your PC). 99.9% of the time it hears and understands me perfectly...most of the time if it messes up, it's pilot error, or just WAY to loud and noisy in my room. It's truly amazing tech, and I'm sure it'll be taken advantage of in pretty cool ways in the future. It can read muscle stresses, see you near perfectly in pitch dark, and read your heart rate...would be great for some slight horror game touches...I hope they integrate this with AR glasses using "illumiroom" type tech...if your heart rate goes up start making the room drip blood or something like that.
So basically you're paying all this extra cash just for voice commands? am I correct in saying that? i've never used Kinect so i'm one of those "that hate on it don't even own an x1" I also hate on Mustard, never tased it, I can't get it past my nose, disgusting stuff My TV (in my bedroom) has voice commands, it doesn't work for everything, to be honest I rarely use the feature It seems you're paying loads extra just for a feature you don't really need
@ hellsvacancy Well also the build in ir blaster. Paying Extra for things or features people don't really need is also the reason why many people will stick with ps3,xb360 or non at all for a while longer.
Couldn't they have just mapped the voice commands into the XB1 headset? Kinect seems very inessential for what it does. :/
You don't need an expensive camera to do any of that, except the AR glasses, which aren't actually a thing, as far as we know. You can just use a mic.
No auto sign in, auto profile change when someone picks up the controller, no auto button mapping, no facial scan into games, no qr reading. And more features coming... It's just 6 months after release... Such impatience. Wow
And how many of those features are actually game related or will heavily benefit gaming? That's fine if you like using your voice, but I'm a gamer so my priority is... you know... gaming. So I'd rather pay less for a more powerful console that gives quality free games every month. That's just me though. I respect other people have different ways of thinking. BTW that last pm you gave me, frigid, was very entertaining. I didn't know it was so easy to make you rage. I can tell the truth really gets to you.
Kinect is a distraction, a novel way to draw people in "check this out man, Xbox ON.... wait wait wait wait, Xbox, Titanfall, BOOM Titnanfall started by itself, it's sooo cool man, futuristic.......... now where's my controller"
Sorry can you list some good games for me that make use of kinect beyond cheap gimmicks? Thanks in advance.
It all depends on what you call a gimmick. For me I like to use the voice commands in fifa 14 for subs and formation changes as it keeps the game flowing. Kinect also works well in project sparks too. I also like how it knows when I have passed the controller to someone else and it switchs to their profile. I also use if for turning the volume up and down as well as switching from one game or app to another or even changing channel and pausing TV when the phone rings. I use the new Kinect a lot as well as smart glass too. For me its worth the money but I do get why some people don't want Kinect but it adds way more to the console than people give it credit for and without Kinect added onto the xbox one it is just the same as the ps4 but less powerful. Its each to there own imo if you don't want it then don't get it get a ps4 or Wiiu or stick with a PS3 or 360 as there are lots of choices out there to pick from and choice = good.
I can only think of two: Dance Central and Gunstringer. Those were pretty good games and it's because they utilized Kinect in a well thought out manner. Beyond that... lots of Wiimote-waggle-esque shovelware.
Kinect is a joke,you or any other Xbox fanboy praising it wouldn't make it look any hotter or better. A kinectless XboxOne is what I want,if I needed a kinect one day then I won't mind shilling out a $100 dollar for it THEN! but forcing it on me to pay an extra $100 for;when I know that it's crappy right now isn't helping ME as a consumer to see a good deal with the XboxOne.
@Studio-Yami If you want a car powered by radioactive chickens... build your own cos car manufacturers don't make them... I'm pretty sure they dont... Same goes for X1, If you want an X1 that does not have kinect... go buy a P4... MS Doesn't make them. I have an X1 and kinect is very useful to me. It has not, however told me any funny jokes, so I can't agree with your sweeping statement that Kinect is a joke :). Since I bought an X1 and am praising it's virtues, I can affirm that the kinect has not gotten hotter in temperature while I've been typing. If you own a P4, great, if you own a PS-Eye, wonderful. I don't personally care. I avoid all Japanese manufactured electronic products because of their poor QA.
Gecko let me get this straight. You avoid Japanese manufactured electronics because of poor QA? That is hilarious. Uhhhhh does Red Ring ring a bell? Do you think that Xboxes are made in America? Do you think PS4s are made in Japan? Both in China dude.
I disagree with the article, calling it a joke is too harsh. I don't believe it's a joke, i can see the appeal of Kinect for people. I just don't believe it can offer *me* anything. There are a couple of your own points that i disagree with though: "When Kinect had games on the x360 everyone says it was a joke" Which games? The shovelware family/kiddy games? The games that had extremely limited movement/interaction such as Star Wars Kinect? Kinect didn't prove itself to the core audience, imo. It was limited to voice controls and basic motion controls, which is why it has never been implemented for more than that since it's inception. It was because of those very games that people called it a joke last gen. "All these things it has over the competition camera it's laughable." But there's one thing it doesn't have over the competitions camera. The choice of buying it.
Just show them this video whenever 360 Kinect games are talked about in anything but a negative way. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
You're completely right. My TV does what Kinect does. My Amazon Fire Tv does it also. Most smart tvs are being made with voice and some with gesture controls. Cable companies are using voice. Socom 2 used voice commands 2 generations ago. I'd call it a running gag or pipe dream. When the first Kinect came out and they did the Milo thing that we all know was never going to be a game, that hooked a lot of people into believing that "someday", Kinect would improving gaming on every level. And of course the gaming press ate it up and fantasized about how Kinect was this awesome new thing and people like Sessler and G4 even gave it an award for best innovation.....and fanboys rejoiced. So certain Xbox fans clung to hopes of one day using the force to choke enemies or playing "real" soldier in some shooter and what they got was pure crap and disappointment. Now Kinect 2.0 is here and you still have people clinging to hope and waiting on potential that will never be realized. So you have DR3 that uses hybrid controls that look suspiciously like sixaxis motion which was built into the DS3. And of course you have the voice commands which have been on consoles since Socom 2. Where is the potential? Where are the innovations Kudo kept going on about? What happened to, "if everyone has Kinect, more developers will use it..." That's clearly not the case as developers were excited to finally be done with motion controls. Hell, most of us are happy Nintendo and Sony moved on. Even Crytek moved away from Kinect and everyone that enjoyed Ryse did so because it used buttons instead of crappy motion controls. "Hey, just you wait till <insert game with gimmick> comes out" and when that game finally does and disappoints, we're just going to find some other way to justify paying a premium for a worthless gimmick. Or we will continue to dream up ways to make Kinect finally worth it and MS will ignore it and force it on those that just want a straight up gaming console with no gimmicks. And What about the Eye Toy 3? "Since it's selling out and being used mostly for streaming, can we justify Kinect that way?" Well the PS Eye is optional but you will try anyway. Kinect is bad news for Xbox. It boggles the mind why some defend it.
The only thing really worth playing on the Kinect 1 was Dance Central, everything else was garbage.
It's a joke on the Xbox 360, and it's still a joke on the Xbone. What it's supposed to be good at, it falls short on. Almost every time my bro turns his on, it takes a good while to even recognize him. And voice commands? "Xbox, go to Netflix". *Launches Twitch*. Sorry.
I was in a mountain resort and they had an XBox with Kinect but no controller. It was such a pain pretending to be all Tom Cruise from Minority Report to navigate menus. All I wanted was a controller.
Kinect = a gimmicky thing that no one wants to pay a hundred bucks for.
people who bought it makes you a liar; you can and do not speak for anyone but yourself. When Vr hits you will see having a camera is important Oculus rift has shown this and you Sony fans just cannot see it.
Oculus Rift has shown us why we DON'T need a camera. Sony is the one using the camera with Morpheus and Move controllers.
When did Microsoft confirm their VR device for the Xbox One? As far as I know only Sony confirmed theirs. @legion Your correct that VR doesn't need a camera to work. Only blind fanboys don't see that. Sony is using the camera to cut down on the costs of the sensors that they would have to incorporate in Morpheus.
@Wearelegion, As far as I know, the Oculus Rift does require an external camera for head tracking just like Project Morpheus. Where did you hear that that it doesn't need a camera? On the Tomsguide description, it clearly show a picture of the goggle with an external mounting tracking camera device. "The latest version of the Oculus Rift is bolstered by an external positional-tracking accessory, which helps track head movements more accurately. The result is the sensation that you are looking around a 3D world." http://www.tomsguide.com/us... I think by continuing keeping the Kinect with every XB1 Sku, then MS can make it cheaper and easier to sell VR gears than the competition when they decide to release one. The price needs to be closer to the base PS4 system with the kinect and that is a much better strategy going forward than to dump the Kinect and waste all their initial goals and future ideas with it being part of the system.
Wait, sony fans cannot see it? I am sorry but if anyone gameing group cannot see it is clearly in the xbox platform group. Microsoft has not even released info on the Vr for kinect yet and many xbox fans never mention kinect combined with VR! The reason many people in Sonys camp talked about VR was because of playstation Move was shown working with a VR environment. Hell why do you think Sony is releasing its Vr so soon? Inatead of investing more into 3D, sony rightly so, invested into Vr, for one did you notice for the PS4 release Sony showed off Move working with the PS4? Its not about the parts of it all by itself. If any thing I agree with you about Vr with connection with kinect ,but to be very blunt what is Microsoft really done to promote kinnect with Vr? Nothing which is not good in my opinion, for those thst think Vr is not usefull with kinect are in for a shock, it is quite usefull with Vr. As a matter of fact @siggraph 2004 Sony's very own dr. Marks key point about prime sense technology was even used working with the ps2 combined with move would make one hell of a combination expensive but really good 3D depth tracking+ accurate 3D area control add in Vr and you have a price friendly simulation. Microsoft + Sony would have in my opinion worked better off with using each others Vr an motion control and cross promote both working on b ok th systems imagine move working with kinect on xboxone! + Vr you have the cheapest most cost effective Vr stimulation setups for . Gaming same with on playstation drop the playstation eye use kinect and use move an Vr.
Anymore at least. The original Kinect was pretty successful from what I heard, but the novelty wore out by the time Xbox One was announced.
I disconnected my kinect for a few days to see how it would feel not having one. I must say, that I am glad to have it... The functionality is awesome, and I love controlling my system with it. Also, playing ksr is a blast.
Its a 100 lousy bucks, do you know how I party?! We're rich bch, spend that in 1 hour of a night out. 1 bet in Vegas, done. I'm tired of the complaining about a $100. I have a hang over now from last night where I spent more than 100 on a Monday. I'm goin to bestbuy to buy some sort of tech right now cause its fun and I have a career. Kinect sucks but I own it.
I disagree w u. No one should tell others the value of their own hard earned money. Everyone have different needs u know. So u know, like u, I am also a highly $ professional and I don't feel entitled to be arrogant because a few zeroes on my bank account. I rather spend $100 w my girl and my friends -cause they are far more important- than spending it on games any day of the year. On topic: I like the whole idea of Kinect, I just think the execution is very poor. I can see potential on future software but right now it's nothing but a niche luxury. When my relatives ask about Kinect I always answer the same: "Won't tell u that is bad or good. You can flip channels or volume w it, but u won't use it on any -current- games. Guive it a try and decide for urself."
"Its a 100 lousy bucks, do you know how I party?! We're rich bch, spend that in 1 hour of a night out. 1 bet in Vegas, done. I'm tired of the complaining about a $100. I have a hang over now from last night where I spent more than 100 on a Monday. I'm goin to bestbuy to buy some sort of tech right now cause its fun and I have a career. Kinect sucks but I own it." Cool story dudebro.
@traumadisaster That's $100 that not everyone can just blow on a device they may not even want. For folks like me that's a lot of money that needs to be put toward something I need or will enjoy. :/
The potential for Kinect is absolutely bloody massive when you think about it. Subtlety layered into games enhancing them in ways you can't do outside of the hardware As it is though it's completely unused in any real sense other than voice commands or gesture. Devs aren't helping it any either so I can't see this improving. Potentially yes it's potentially fantastic but it would be better off had Nintendo gone this route instead. Right now it's a big waste of time though as far games is concerned and MS will I'm sure be forced to sell it individually That said this gen started before it was meant to and this MS likely has some very impressive software lined up that justifies the hardware
This is what I've been saying the whole time. Vr is not been talked about but can be done cheaper because everyone has a camera. It can track your heart rate using this in horror games or wars games would work. Or the new aliens game. Augmented reality there's a lot of potential for this. That's why I also said Sony fans just like Apple fans do not like technology they just like being number 1 it's just about power not interesting innovations that actually change gaming.
May i ask the source that the Kinect adds $100 dollar value to the system please? People bang on about it. I like seeing facts. thankyou please
@DJStotty Hey i will try to find the link again, but the kinect was said to have cost as much as half of the xboxone to build in price components! 3D depth sense cameras that do depth tracking as kinect does can get really expensive to manuf. Also having 2 to 3 camera's inside 1 camera to make 3D use's can get rather expensive in yields for the cmos production chips. Its not a cheap camera.
I would say a 100$ is right its a awesome camera.
Never said it was cheap its impressive technology. I just deal in facts from either Msoft or Manufacturers. Not gaming sites that make up flamebait
Microsoft said Kinect costs $150 as a stand alone. This was way back when they were trying to justify the price for XBone.
Source or link please?
@adropacrich2 Gotta agree. I love the Kinect and use it everytime i use the xbox one. And have also caught myself playing the 360 on a game, doing something awesome online and saying "xbox, record that" jus to awaken to the sad realisation it doesnt work. E3 is gonna be immense :)
I own both systems and honestly I'm glad the X1 has the Kinect because it's the one feature that makes the X1 experience unique from the PS4. Saying "Xbox on" and "Xbox turn off" to turn my entire entertainment center on and off is a real joy. Plus the seamless transition from gaming to TV, back to gaming is very fluid and fast. While the PS4 is slightly more powerful, the way you interact with the X1 using Kinect feels more like a next gen experience IMO. PS4 is nice but it just feels like another gaming console. The X1 feels more like a complete next gen experience. Graphically, the X1 graphics are well within the same ballpark as the PS4. Any differences between the two are completely negligible. But the way some of you talk, you act like the X1 graphics are sending people running in the streets with bleeding eyeballs. Get over it fanboys! The difference is not THAT much.
I have no use for it and I don't have a PS camera either. I use it to say Xbox on,start titanfall. That's basically it
My main uses for Kinect are to open games/apps, record game clips, snap apps during commercials, change channels on TV, search for content and to turn the Xbox off at night. There are other things it does on its own that I also appreciate though, such as: monitoring use for battery saving, switching controller settings when you grab a different controller and signing me in when I enter the room. Overall, I think it does quite a bit. I can't imagine not having it at this point.
I use it for "xbox, turn on" "xbox, go to (game name)" "xbox, record that" "xbox, watch tv" "xbox, go to (app name)" "xbox, snap internet explorer" (when stuck on some games for guides :) ) Pushing a zombie off me in dead rising/attracting zombies attention skype calls with friends and family All while still holding the controller and not moving. "xbox, turn off" (bedtime) Well worth the money i paid and more to follow this E3.
in other words make it a ps eye with move
Trying to figure out why I go to this website when it posts peoples idiotic rants on here. The pseye is vastly inferior to the kinect yet there are no hate articles on it. Also he needs to rework his list there because you can turn off the hand gestures while a video is playing that update was months ago. I love my kinect and glads its bundled in there are good games coming for it like fru and d4. The added features it gives to other games that use its functionality are gladly enjoyed. If there was a gripe with it compared to other peoples version it would be thats its bundled with the console. I get why some people want out it but I get why microsoft keeps it in because then games will stop implementing it like they do for the ps4.
who gave this joker a keyboard...n4g never fails to scrape the bottom of the barrel
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