Microsoft needs a real answer to one of Sony's best upcoming features or it will fall even further behind in sales.
What franchises are there to play ? The only decent games are being ported to this gen. In the original xbox the only decent games were Kotor 1 and 2, and on X360 Gears,Halo and Alan Wake. To be honest I find hard to get those games for the campaign (excpt Alan Wake). Unless they'll bring the multi-plat otherwise there aren't enough games or variety.
If kotor is the only game you remember from OG Xbox you're quite young.
I'll throw in Jade Empire but that's it. And I'm not young. Don't know what that has to do with it.
The original Xbox library was poor.
@pedrof93 Og Xbox = fable,halo 1 and 2,Kotor 1 and 2,the og splinter cell(was exclusive fora long time), Amped 1 and 2,valve even squeezed Half life 2 on it. The list of good games for og xbox Is long. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...
@gunners I'll throw in some Crimson Skies,Phantom Dust,Jade Empire,Ninja Gaiden,Conker,Otagi 1-2,Star Wars Battlefront,Steel Battalion w/BAC and Halo 1-2.
Dude, just no. When the 360 launched with a thin library, people could play Halo 2 online with their friends while they waited for more games. You also had Forza Motorsport, Blinx, Mech Assault and a bunch of other titles on the OG Xbox to tide you over while waiting for new games. If the Xbox One had backwards compatibility I would be playing A TON of games, not to mention considering getting back some games I've sold but felt like playing. Microsoft is missing out on this big time. I still have some PSX/PS2 games that I would gladly play on the PS4 when the backwards compatible firmware update arrives.
Forza, you're suggesting that you would be playing old Forzas ? Oh yeah, Playstation 1,2 and 3 have/had a great catalog.
@Pedrof93 Forza 4 has more content than Forza 5 and is cheaper. So yeah, why wouldn't I play a game that gives me a ton of replay without costing me an arm and a leg? And why wouldn't I want to play Gears of War 2 and 3 while waiting for the new one on the XB1? If you bought an XB1 because your 360 died you're left with a crappy library of games until next year.
Kotor, Conker, Ninja Gaiden, MGS2, The good splinter cells, Voodoo vince, Phantom dust a game that no one liked but now are dying over (still one of my favs tho) Mech Warrior and these are just games I can remember. Anyone who owned could of listed some amazing games that fell through the cracks. Kingdom under fire and steel battalion. Plus 3rd strike multiplayer was on xbox.
Am I the only one who finds PS Now not interesting at all? Paying a monthly fee to play old games, probably with lag... NO THANKS. Not interested. I'm already pissed because I payed 50€ for a year of PSN+ and the PS4 games offered until now are crap. I hope Sony improves their PSN+ PS4 offerings in the near future.
I don't care about PS Now.
What I do care about is that they're testing PS1 & PS2 emulation for PS4. PS3 games will be streaming, PS1 & 2 games will be download/non streaming & "possibly" game disc support.
Heh. While I still have both my original Xbox (and 360), I believe all but a very few Xbox titles were eventually released on PC and other platforms. The only ones I think that are still exclusive are Project Gotham Racing, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Phantom Dust, MechAsault, Conker, Fusion Frenzy, Voodoo Vince and Brute Force. Other than that, Halo 1, 2, JSR, Kotor 1, 2, Fable and Jade Empire all made their way over to PC. All the other titles I can think of are multi-plats.
Microsoft won't do anything that will undercut sales of xbox1 software. Guaranteed.
More fanboy bait.
yeah. inc all the fanboys defending/attacking xbox now... /sigh
But you won't confront ANY validity in anything that is remotely painting Xbox in a negative way... PlayStation Now is a big thing. It looks to make a bigger mark upfront than Xbone cloud because by the time MS gets their act together, the perception of "Sony offers cloud" will already have impacted hard. So Microsoft DOES need something to answer to it, and the cloud won't benefit their console in any big way for quite a long time. It's hard to accept, I know, but having better gaming features means better things.
who really wants backwards compatibility that bad on either platform? From my experiences, old games rarely play as good as you remember them
I don't understand why anyone would want to play last-gen (or older) games on a new-gen machine. That would be like wanting to play videocassettes in your DVD player.
I've been reading some stupid comments here and there, but you wow. You beat them all.
Bad analogy. It would be more akin to wanting to watch Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom on blu ray. Just like a good movie, a good game can be put on any new form of media, be it blu ray or digital. It's about options, options are good mkay. Also don't forget that new gamers wouldn't have old systems and games to play, so for them to be able to play gems of the past is something that's good for the industry and the gamer.
Worst analogy ever.
Trust me...okami upscaled would play just as good as it did when I first played it. I'd much rather have 1 ps console than 2 taking up space in an already conjested tv stand.
How many great AAA games are out on the new systems....oh wait, barely a handful. Backward compatibility is good because it saves space in the home, let's you keep the games you enjoyed from the last generation, have something to play while waiting for new games, let's people experience games they never got to play if they didn't have the predecessor. For example, a lot of people who had a 360 got a Ps4 because the xbo wasn't too appealing. Now they are interested in Uncharted 4 but haven't played the original 3 and they never will without dishing out 150+ bucks or whatever ridiculous amount PSNow is going to require. I never had a Wii but there were a bunch of Wii games I wanted to play so when the WiiU came out I bought all the games I wanted to play and got to experience them. If your experiences lead you to believe that older games aren't good as you remember them you either didn't really enjoy them to begin with, but up their greatness with nostalgia goggles, or are just a typical selfish gamer who puts graphics before gameplay. There are tons of Nes, Snes, 64, PS1, PS2 games that are still being played today and are held as some of the greatest games of their respective systems, going back and playing they still hold up today which is what makes them great because of smart gameplay and design. Why would you want to be limited to only one library of games then throw them all away for the next when you could have all the previous titles too?
Well said. Bubbles up to you, sir.
Don't speak for me because my opinion doesn't fit us exaggerated gamer enthusiasm. What do YOU still play that's held up so well to you. I'm a selfish gamer alright? You sound hella stupid. U want BC so dam bad, if its sooo important dude get a PC. FULL BC WITH EVERY CONSOLE EVER. Nobody said anything about throwing anything away ur just trolling.
i don't know what crap you played back in the day but some older games beat alot of the stuff from the past few years.Isn't Chrono Trigger like the best game ever or something like that? or was it ocarina of time?
Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles, Ocarina of Time, F-Zero, General Chaos, Chrono Trigger, Out of this World, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, No One Lives Forever, Codename: Eagle, Baldur's Gate, Perfect Dark 64, etc., etc., etc. There are a bunch of games that still hold up even compared to today's standards. This kid must be too young to have played anything from the golden era of gaming.
Great games are timeless because the mechanics aren't the problem.
@Xbottox Backwards compatibility are great for those summer dryspells or lack of new games.
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Only hope ? not really, but it would be nice of microsoft to implement something like PSNow.
I really, need to see PSNow prices before I consider it a promising service or valid substitute for backward compatibility. As it stands I would rather just keep my ps3 AND my ps4, than pay extra to play games I may have already purchased. A better solution would be to have the ps4/xbox1 recognize the last gen disks that are placed in the drive, then stream that game's content using cloud services.
I bought a next gen system to play next gen games,not games i already played on 360 or ps3.
What about games you DIDN'T play? What about people who AREN'T you? I suppose you think these companies should only cater to you.
What if my connection is bad? What if I dont have internet? What if the servers are down? What about people in the service and troops in submarines? Hmmmm, trying to remember other sony fanboy excuses that they applied to MS in similar situation.
I have to say XboxFun, you have somewhat of a point. But if you're trying to compare blatant restrictive anti-consumerist decisions to providing new OPTIONS for consumers, that's hilarious. So yeah,, you're only partially correct, but ultimately it's a bad comparison to draw from. Frankly, you missed the point as usual. Don't change, cause as I said... hilarious.
Edit: nevermind. I read the title wrong. Either way its stupid.
MS doesn't have the catalogue that would make it worthwhile. Most of the good games for the original Xbox have been releases also on PC and the amount of unique games on the 360 isn't that big.
IN YOUR OPINION. I have a gigantic back catalog of digital games and their achievements that I wish I could port over. If they get it to work then the Xbox One becomes the only ONE console I and many others need.
Crimson skies would be enough for me.... not sure why that title slept for a whole gen.....its not like md released something similar.
The way I see it, services such as PS Now are the future of gaming. It might take quite a few years but the idea to play your games anywhere, on any device is what the industry is driving towards. Think of how popular Netflix and what it has done for TV/Film.
The X360 is still in production on sale at retailers and will only get cheaper and a lot of gamers already have that system so this is a flame bait article, if nothing else. I don't see an issue here.
Did this writer do any research. Phil Spencer has stated many times to the fans that ms is looking into being able to play 360 games on the one and it will be through software emulation and not the cloud. Yes the task will be difficult as they are two diffrent processors but not impossible according to Phil so we will see if this is empty promises or truth but if ms just wanted to run 360 games through azure it would not be difficult they will just run into the same problems as onlive has or sony now.
I don't understand why so many people think that backward compatibility is a big deal, who wants to play old games with bad graphics? I want modernity.
because your library of games becomes massive over night...and its fan service. Would be a very good gesture for MS to offer up.
Backwards compatible cloud? No. BC needs to be an emulation app and just run it off the Xbox One and not worry about streaming. If MS manages to get emulation working they should 100% just get it out to Xbox One owners as a free app. That would be undoubtedly a huge win for the system. Eventually they will need a streaming service but they don't need it if they can offer up emulation via an app.
MS/Free? Everything is behind a paywall. Everything. It´s never going to happen. ever.
What a Trollbait article lol, sorry but "Backwards compatibility" is not a "Only hope" lol nor is it a valid selling point for a powerful next gen gaming machine made for bleeding edge graphics and innovation... just sayin. Let the disagrees flow over me!
This is used as a ploy for the fanboy wars.. Nobody really cares about BC. We all still have our old consoles or if we sold them, then we don't care about playing it anymore. My .02 anyways
I've still got my PS3, and I can't bring myself to play anything on it. Ps now will be a rental service, your favourite games mightn't even make it to the list of games being streamed. The critically acclaimed games will be remastered, repackaged and resold at full price. We'll just have to put up with it. The PC is where true backward compatibility is..
I want to be able to access the marketplace for 360 and download any games that I have bought on that platform and download and play them on my X1 through software emulation. If anyone can figure it out it is Microsoft. I'll take cloud streaming but software emulation is the way to go. MS figured out how to get it to work for Xbox games (x86) to PowerPC(360), I hope they can get it to work this time.
I feel that backwards compatibility is mainly an issue within the first 2 or so years. So if MS can't do anything by then I guess they can slowly try and think of a way.
Sony and Microsoft should both have backwards compatability, and I don't mean cloud streaming, I mean emulation, and old discs playable on new consoles. Instead of doing this they offer some of the older games via Xbox Live Marketplace, or Playstation Store, and some of the better games get HD Remakes. Xbox and Xbox 360 had some great games, as did the PS1, PS2, and PS3, and we shouldn't have to pay for those games more than once unless it is an HD Remake, in which case it is our choice to buy the remastered version or not. I am someone who has games from all those generations, and even the consoles, and I don't think we should have to dig out old consoles and cords and accessories in order to play our old games, we should be able to put the old games in the new consoles, create virtual memory cards, and play. Disagree if you must, nostalgia isn't for everyone I suppose.
That's okay, don't want to pay a monthly fee to play the games I already own, like PSN. Thank you PC for always being BC.
Why would you access games you already own instead of the thousands of games you don't? Or are you implying you own every game ever released on your consoles?
No, the problem is that you will be paying over and over for the old games that you already purchase (that u still want to replay them) unless you suggesting people only pay to play old games that they haven't tried before (eventually you will still be paying over and over for them too after you try them) In either case, a software emulation (game that u already own) or cheap digital version (game that you miss out on or want to try) are still better options than a streaming service (laggy, and not a true BC compatible option because u will be paying over and over for games that u want to replay).
Personally I don't see PS Now as backwards compatible. You can't play the games you bought, you can only pay to play games you already bought. Biggest ripoff of the century.
This comment doesn't even make sense. What do you mean? Are you saying Sony has seen the games every playstation gamer has bought then decided put it has a library on Playstation Now while laughing like an evil overlord. Not every past PS3 gamer has played all the PS3 games, i know i have missed some quality ones myself. PS NOW is not restricted to Playstation Consoles, so people who haven't even had consoles can play it on their requirement met TVs, tablets and more. And lets not forget gamers who have moved over from Xbox, WII U to PS consoles, am sure they would like to try some PS2 and PS3 exclusives sony has. Unlike MS policies, it is not forced on you. And last of all, nobody fully knows how this service would work. But hey it is a Sony product not MS, so therefore it is a ripoff in your opinion
I mean exactly what I said. PS Now does not let you play your games you bought on the PS3 on the PS4, it only allows you to pay a fee to play them. It is a ripoff. If Microsoft does this, I will feel exactly the same. I want to play ""MY"" games, not have to pay for them all over again.
It is not force, but it isn't BC compatible option like incendy said also, you will be paying for the same old contents every month (as long as u keep the service) = old content eventually cost more than newer ones that you owned with a one time purchase. Now if PS now give u access to new contents/games as well, that might make it worthy of a service a(though people might just activate an account when ever they see something they wanted, and quite right after they done playing)
@incendy Did Sony ever make the claim that Playstation Now was an emulator? It allows you to stream PS3, PS2 games from a good amount of devices. So essentially if you see a PS2, PS3 game you haven't bought before, you rent or pay to play it. How is that a ripoff? Sony isnt forcing the last gen games you have already bought on you, you have a pick of your choices of other last gen games you haven't played. Which begs the question, why do you want to play a last gen game you bought and played on the last gen console, then play it on the next gen console? Wouldn't you want to play last gen games you haven't played before on the next gen console?!
@badeous I don't know how the service would work, so your monthly subscription payment might not the only option given. The way i see it, a new game i haven't played is new content for me even if it is from last gen. "old content eventually cost more than newer ones that you owned with a one time purchase" Yeah tell that to Gamestop
Yay. The next-gen consoles are so focused on last-gen games that now it's the determining factor of which console I should get. By the way, PS Now is a touch bit different from backwards compatibility. I don't have to rebuy my games.
Have they outlined all of their plans on how you will access games? Whether purchased games will be accessible to stream on your account? I don't think they have, but correct me if I'm wrong. Considering the immense value the PlayStation ecosystem offers, it would not surprise me one bit, if you could stream the game you have already purchased. I'm crossing no fingers though, as I have a PS3 for old games, where they will play better.
Wonder what the prices of PS Now will be. I hear the service runs pretty well already.
well, I don't know how badly they would need a streaming service but its definitely nice to be able to rent games on the PS4. you know for when you just wanna pick up and play something until your next anticipated game arrives and possibly discover games that you may otherwise never discover. I guess it all depends on your gaming habits. For me, I take a long time to finish games, I like to savor every moment, but then even I find some periods when I wish I could play something that I didn't pay full price for just so it can get me through to the next release date.