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PS4 and Xbox One graphics disparity continues: Trials Fusion runs at 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbox

Venturebeat:

"Ubisoft is about to release the next entry in its motorcycle-platforming series on consoles and PC next week, and — like other multiplatform games — it has a slightly higher resolution on the PlayStation 4 than on the Xbox One.

Trials Fusion hits Wednesday for the PS4, Xbox One, and Xbox 360 (and PC on April 24), and developer RedLynx promises that it runs at a smooth 60 frames per second on all of those systems. It will not, however, run at the same resolution. Ubisoft has confirmed to GamesBeat that Fusion will run at 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbox One. Those numbers refer to the number of horizontal lines the game is rendering for every frame of animation."

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NYC_Gamer812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

Wow,MS really needs to get those updated drivers[they claimed fixed performance]to developers..Its crazy when an indie game can't be full HD on a 500 dollar console.

UbiquitousClam812d ago

I agree that MS need to up there game but trials is not an indie game, its published by Ubisoft.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr3812d ago TrollingShow
Sethry101812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

Forza was severely down graded to run at 1080p 60fps, this down grade is common knowledge and well documented.

Forza 5 actually had less visual effects then Forza 4, which is kind of scary!

Edit:
http://n4g.com/news/1400178...

Just to back up my statement.

The_Infected812d ago (Edited 811d ago )

You wonder why it's 1080p/60.

http://i.imgur.com/FHLgmd2....

Kingthrash360812d ago

so forza is the end all be all? maybe you should think long and hard about ALL the other games on the system. yay forza 1080p 60fps...1st party game. these 3rd party games for some reason arnt running on the $500 machine like it is on a $400.
at the end of the day i dont really care about the gap between the systems but i do hate to hear people ignore the problems.
the x1 is 500 bucks and if it cant run games at the same level as the $400 dollar machine then it is largely over priced. let's not defend this practice.

truefan1812d ago TrollingShow
Sethry101811d ago

truefan, surely even you have to be able to admit that the hardware is weaker in the Xbox.

No dev is ever going to make a game deliberately weaker on one consol. The fact that even first party games are running at lower resolutions will show you that its not a case of 'not trying'.

The RAM setup is creating a bottleneck, trying to push through larger resolutions while maintaining visual effects is proving hard to do.

With that I use my last bubble, so good night!

Ron_Danger811d ago

@truefan

"I think this is the new marketing strategy, making sure a game runs at a higher resolution on ps4 and get the ps4 fans on your side"

Ha! Are you kidding me?! Are you actually thinking that this is all one big conspiracy to get Sony fans on their side?? You have officially gone off the deep end. You blindly follow MS so much that you are basically calling 3rd party devs Sony fanboys.

onyoursistersback811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

I am convinced that if your not using cloud/internet connection. You will hardly ever get your games to run 1080p/60fps on a XboxOne. Hell, some will probably force you to have a live/active account to run most games....
"DRM" FORCED ITS UGLY HAND AGIAN....

It's being forced on Xbox fans, live with it....or just keep making up story's about how good it is.

lol...

MysticStrummer811d ago

@Wraith - Why think long and hard about something that's been well documented? Forza achieved those targets by noticeable downgrades to the visuals.

@truefan - Deep end achieved.

OT - Multiplat disparity will be the norm this gen, just like it was last gen when there were nearly always small differences. The differences are just bigger now. Sony designed a console based on the input of developers, while MS designed a console based on the direction they wanted to push the industry. The result is a power gap in PS4's favor.

TheGreatAndPowerful811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

This is humiliating for MS and it's going to be like this the entire gen.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr3811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

"so forza is the end all be all? "

No, but none of Sony's offerings as far as AAA exclusive titles run, 1080p/60fps even though one of them was touted as such, but was lied about. I just find it all sorta of...odd.

Pain811d ago

hmm....

"I think this is the new marketing strategy, making sure a game runs at a higher resolution on ps4 and get the ps4 fans on your side"

kinda like MS's parity clause last gen gimping PS3 games right? right True?

Deadpoolio811d ago TrollingShow
Eonjay811d ago

@The_Infected

Wow. This makes the talk about Watch Dogs seem trivial. Watchdogs is not 1080p on Xbox One. This is incredible. What were they playing this game on. That is incredible deception.

Eonjay811d ago

@truefan1

Man I'm sorry.

Pogmathoin811d ago

No one is ignoring anything KT, its the same people speaking the same crap every time, highlighting something we all know, PS4 is more superior... ie, you, heavy and so own.... Have 5 games on X1, 4 on PS4, full retail games, and sure, first thing you notice os graphics, crispness and so on, but when I play Forza, or any driving game, I do not stop to take in the scenery.....those that make comments about it have probably never played it, and more and likely just troll, while dreaming about next gen....

Septic811d ago

Smh..trials fusion can't run @ 1080p???

Sort it out Ms.

Sevir811d ago

@Trufan1 soooo you mean Respawn made Titan Fall on XBO run at 796p because they wanted PS fans on their side? Please proceed to plank in the middle of a busy highway.

This, people is the perfect example of why you should never do crystal meth.

Xsilver811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

@Wriath
at the end of the Day which Console Has the most 1080p60Fps Games :/ and the Only thing Odd is a Game like Trials not being able to Run at 1080p on XOne. Matter of fact Name One Multiplatform Game that the Xone version has higher Resolution or framerate than the PS4 version happy Hunting.

dantesparda811d ago

What do they mean a "slightly higher resolution"? Its a 44% increase! thats a little more than a slight increase. Also, these fanboys that say "well Forza does 1080/60fps". So what? What are you trying to say? That the system can do 1080/60fps just because one game did it by cutting down on quality? Cuz if thats the case, then why didnt this game do it, yet can do it on the PS4? And why is it that the rest of X1's exclusives (Ryse, DR3, KI and TF all run at 720p) and a whole bunch of multiplats cant even run at 1080p on the X1? (BF4 and COD 720p, etc).

TheGreatAndPowerful811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

Lead programer for Trials explains why the PS4 kicks so much ass. :D

"For our game, stable 60 fps is the most important thing. Pushing twice as many frames requires twice as many GPU and CPU cycles. This makes our game very demanding to the hardware."

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

tokugawa811d ago

new drivers lol they need a new console!

the bone is a joke.... and i have one

JetP0619811d ago

that's even worst, considering ubisoft is a big company and cant get this running on full HD

Ritsujun811d ago

WoofSpectre's mad!!

Don't ever give up, MS!!!!!!!

ADECENTBOY777811d ago

Well, the MS console is just weaker, that's all. We all knew that from the very beginning, and forget all the fairytales about secret saucage and plus stuff. Wake up and accept that PS4 has a better hardware and easier to develop for - just ask the devs! :)

badz149811d ago

@truefan1

Of course it can be 1080p on Xbone too but it won't be 60fps for sure. But before you even go into full denial mode, just give an example of a multiplat running better on Xbone than on PS4. There is NONE and that should tells you something.

The Xbone's biggest exclusive of the year is 792p to achieve 60fps and it's not even a looker, on an aging engine to begin with!

jmac53811d ago

I have never seen one person get so many disagrees Truefan at 204 disagrees. Ha!

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lelo812d ago (Edited 812d ago )

I agree. Like it or not, being a fanboy or not, most people should admit that the X1 is not worth 500€. It's a overpriced piece of hardware... Microsoft is trying to imitate Apple with it's overpriced products. At this moment the X1 should be priced 350-400€ and (if existed and if Microsoft were smart) a Kinect-less X1 should be priced at 300€.

I know the most important thing that defines a console are it's games, but it's inadmissible that a game like Trials Fusion runs only at 900p on the X1.

Gozer812d ago

If you don't own an X1 you really cant credibly comment on what the X1 is worth. Sure you can state your opinion but I would listen to someone who owns one more closely than some random poster stating their opinion. I own an X1 and it has been great. I actually bought 2 at launch, one for me, one for my son and I have no regrets.

T2811d ago

Totally agree and price cuts this early such as titanfall plus xbl for 449 proves that it's overpriced because price is set by consumers, and at 499 they said hell no

MysticStrummer811d ago

@Gozer - MS themselves has admitted XB1 was overpriced by dropping that price and including what was supposed to be their biggest system seller for free.

I bought a launch PS3 for full price and never regretted it, but even I know it was priced too high for the market's liking.

Tempest317811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

@gozer

I understand you giving more weight to the opinion of an owner vs non owner, but you cant really say non owners cant credibly comment on what its worth. I know All the functions and I also know and understand the hardware specs...how is my opinion not credible? The reason I havemt bought one is its not worth the price imo...so youre saying for my opinion that its overpriced to be valid, I would have had to bought one at full msrp? Just so I can credibly say it wasnt worth the money? Seems a little ridiculous to me.

Edit: if the price was $400 id probably get one...if it was $350 Id have one for sure

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Sethry101812d ago

I have yet to see any solid proof of anything that will improve the graphical power output of the Xbox. I have no doubt drivers will help in the long term, but not to the extent that is being claimed.

fr0sty812d ago

Then there's also the fact that Sony has its own team of coders typing away creating new PS4 drivers as well. Both systems will benefit from software upgrades over the course of the generation.

Sethry101812d ago

Exactly, I have never understood the argument that drivers will help one consol catch up to another.

Firstly software can never compensate for hardware.

Secondly, both console will see driver updates, not just one.

Jumper09812d ago

SDK updates wont fix missing Hardware power. People still forget that the Memory Setup is worse and the GPU is way weaker than the PS4 GPU.

People have to accept that Xbone Hardware for what it is.

u got owned811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

@Jumper09

"People have to accept that Xbone Hardware for what it is."

I think people already accepted and are enjoying their boxes it is the PS4 fans who keep talking and keep bringing the same thing over and over

Farsendor1811d ago

software tools can get better for X1 and ps4 but when it comes to hardware being as they are closed they cant get any better.

Kayant811d ago

@u got owned

"I think people already accepted and are enjoying their boxes it is the PS4 fans who keep talking and keep bringing the same thing over and over" - The recent hopes of supposed 2X improvement and cloud rendering possibilities says otherwise.

u got owned811d ago

@Kayant

Having hopes of the box improving (which it will and if you think otherwise then you are blind) and enjoying their boxes is completely different. Its like saying "i dont want my ps4 to improve because im happy about how it performing right know)

scotmacb811d ago

Anyway you get a really good game now on uour system xbox owners have been playing these for years

Kayant811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

@u got owned

Good point I can't disagree with that I should have been more clear before. I was more trying to say that some people still have it in their minds that there the disparity between the two consoles will end given we know the specs, we have seen how launch games and post launch games have performed, both consoles will see improvements as time goes on yet they believe a API(software) update will somehow make the XB1 more powerful than the PS4 or on par with it in every title because that's what that supposed 2X performance will do.

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TomShoe812d ago

misterxmedia must be throwing a fit right now.

MasterCornholio811d ago

Didn't Mr.X say that Microsoft wanted to hold back the Xbox Ones power to surprise Sony later on in the generation?

In my opinion he is crazy and his followers (like Truefan,georgeenoob, green powers) are crazy as well.

amazinglover812d ago

Agreed also with the rate at the updates have been coming it would seem the MS wanted to have a release of November this year and only brought it out last year as to not give Sony a year head start.

k3rn3ll811d ago

Well that's common knowledge man. Its not really a secret. Also why d12 isn't out yet is it was suppose to coincide with launch or shortly thereafter.

lifeisgamesok812d ago (Edited 811d ago )

It goes back to the statement Microsoft made

They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels

These developers were probably just lazy

If Forza is 1080p this game could be too and have great quality pixels in 1080p

900p and 1080p is the most subtle difference anyway

gameslayer2411811d ago

I still don't get how people who sink multiple hours out of their lives, of spending time with family, to fully commit to working ridiculously hard on a project, can be called lazy. You can't say that somebody who's whole pay check revolves around the success of a game, would be lazy in their job. That is plain stupid, and an utterly rude statement. Grow the hell up dude, before you call someone lazy, you got out there, and you make a game and pour your life into it, then when it doesn't match up to fanboy standards, deal with being called lazy when you did your best. Man...Shove off....

Kayant811d ago

"They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels" - Looooooooool this is golden. Seriously better quality *pixels*. Yh right the magical upscaler fixes everything doesn't....

"These developers were probably just lazy" - So lazy that this isn't the first time we have seen a disparity between both consoles when a game is 60fps or 1080p.

"If Forza is 1080p this game could be too" - That's true but it sacrificed a lot of visual effects to get there.

HeWhoWalks811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

Forza 5 is an anomaly, as evidenced by the disparity between how many games run in 1080p on the PS4 (both exclusive and 3rd party) and the ones that do on the X1. Besides, without a shred of proof, your claims of "laziness" sound more like a deterrent and a "please understand" attitude more than anything else.

Make no mistake, I have no doubt that the X1 can output games (in specific situations, given what we know about the hardware) in 1080p, but it's having trouble matching the PS4 because, well, weaker hardware is weaker hardware.

Applejack811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

First of all, to say the developers are just lazy when you don't have a clue about the process is ridiculous. Second, everyone knows the only reason Forza 5 ran at 1080p was because it was majorly downgraded (look at Sethry101 and The_Infected's comments). Finally, you downplay the difference between 1080p and 900p so with that logic, you wouldn't mind Forza 5 to be at 900p since you apparently can't tell?

Sarcasm811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

Ah yes, when all else fails. Say the developers are lazy.

So I guess all these developers are Lazy then,

Crytek - Ryse
Capcom - Dead Rising 3
Respawn - Titanfall
Konami - MGS GZ
Infinity Ward - COD Ghosts
DICE - BF4
Rare - Killer Instinct

Need I go on?

ger2396811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

If its subtle, Microsoft should just make all games on xbox1 900p. Problem solved.

ger2396811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

Double post

GarrusVakarian811d ago (Edited 811d ago )

I disagree, MS isn't giving the devs anything but the hardware, the devs themselves make the options in terms of resolution based off of said hardware.

"Quality of pixels" doesn't mean what you think it means. The quality of pixels completely depends on the panels that manufactures use for TV's and monitors.

And calling a group of people who's bills are paid by putting thousands of hours into making games lazy is just plain rude and ignorant imo.

Why o why811d ago

Arghh, the good ol 'run to forza' retort......ill call this the 'jimmy falon'

I've heard many tout ms as the software dons but even they can only do so much with the weaker hardware. Things will improve but they will also improve on the ps4

mixelon811d ago

Hahahaha! "better quality pixels". XD

Wow.

esemce811d ago

Microsoft were they lazy and disrespectful ones as they knew they had their loyal fans by the balls deeply invested/hooked on Xb live and could get away with skimping costs on the hardware to cater to to the casual multimedia crowd. The hardcore gamers came last to them.

Kryptix810d ago (Edited 810d ago )

@lifeis

"They said they are giving developers the option of better quality of pixels or more pixels"

They never said that, provide the link.

"These developers were probably just lazy"

You just called every developer lazy. Respawn must be lazy because Titanfall isn't running at 1080p. Your logic is completely flawed because most multiplatform games run better on PS4.

"If Forza is 1080p this game could be too and have great quality pixels in 1080p"

If Forza is 1080p...is that really the only game on Xbox One that runs at 1080p? What about, if Dead Rising 3...wait, let me try that again. If Ryse...nope, you can't use that.

"900p and 1080p is the most subtle difference anyway"

Then why are you here complaining? So there is a difference then. 1080p is better than anything lower, let's just leave it at that and you need the more powerful hardware to run it.

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Jumper09812d ago

drivers wont fix missing hardware power. When will people finally accept that?

Zombro811d ago

I have but a console that has my friends on it is better then one without friends

Omegasyde811d ago

@ Zombro -

Good point, but who out of your friends was the first to go Xbox only? Now if they chose the console due to the kinect, do you enjoy the kinect? Did they choose it because of Achievements, what about your Achievements? Can you use your achievements to win/bid on real items? Does yjr Xbox live rewards not require either a survey or that I purchase something?

Do you all play the exclusives Xbox one games together, and if not, why did you all choose the Xbone?

http://pixelapocalypse.ctrl...

TL:DR Don't be a follower, be a leader.

Jazz4108811d ago

The xboxone is a incredibly fun console to play and own and that is what matters. Bicker on about resolution now.

randomass171811d ago

Not that I feel the resolutions are a big issue, but Microsoft would be smart to help make development better on the platform. A smaller game like this should run at the same resolution as PS4.

AgentSmithPS4811d ago

It's known that one console is less powerful but could the difference in resolution be partially related to how Ubisoft feels about things that don't sell enough product? Like the "1 million Morpheus'" comment http://n4g.com/news/1480435...

Since the PS4 sells more? http://www.extremetech.com/...

It's a complicated issue, of course parity shouldn't be forced but should a company have to spend more than half the time on a weaker system because that's what was given to them? Don't Ubihard on the underdog Ubisoft!

OrangePowerz811d ago

Doubtful, the AC ports for.the WiiU are quite good and that one sells really bad.

andrewsqual811d ago

Updated drivers to correct the very basic and simple thing that is the eSRAM bottleneck? Whatever you say.

MeLoveRamen811d ago

For everybody saying that it isn't the xbox1's fault, it's the developers, You have to remember that the xbone couldn't run killer instinct at 1080p, its 720p and thats a 2D fighter and titanfall is a 6vs6 fps that can only output 792p so really i could totally see the bone struggling to run this game at a full crisp 1080p if it couldn't run a 2d fighter in full HD.

quenomamen811d ago

Drivers no fix em, weak hardware.