Despite their successes, Microsoft's other troubles spell possible doom for their video game business.
These days it seems we're all waiting to see who, exactly, will become the next SEGA.
Yup another Doom article. This author is clearly using this as a deflection article for Sony and ps4 to though. In all seriousness Sony is in the worst financial position of the 3 and is currently in a state of restructuring, yet sony is excluded from the title like everything is fine and dandy. These articles are just so easy to click and that is what the author wants.
For sony the PS4 is one of there main pillars.. infact Kaz has said it is one of the 3 main pillars. Many people at MS think they should sell off xbox and many shareholders do also. For Nintendo its really that they have not been very good at it in the last few years (excluding the wii) and they could make more money(or at least many think they could) if they where multiplat. So MS docent partially want to be in the space anymore, Nintendo could possibly make more money the other way, and sony really needs to stay in for it is a cornerstone of there company right now.
Even when sony isn't involed, you involve them..relentless. I doubt either will be leaving the console race BUT if one was to leave first I would think it would be microsoft. Like I said though, cant see either leaving nor desire any to. Although I'm not a super 'truefan' of microsoft they have brought some positives to the console world not just negatives. They also helped wake the sleeping giant so I'm happy for that too. Competition 'can be' good
No, you just read and see what you want to see, especially in regards to anything Microsoft related. The topic has ZERO to do with Sony. OT: While I can see either MS or Nintendo leaving first, I also imagine Microsoft sticking it out, at least, another gen after the X1.
i have to admit truefan i agree
The only issue I have with this argument. Is why a firm who is having financial problems dump one of their most successful divisions? Imagine if you have a restaurant and you sell many types of burgers. Your best selling burger is a bacon cheese burger and your worse selling burger is a pork liver burger. Suppose your restaurant is loosing money and the main reason why your losing money is because you have to throw away pork livers because no one orders the burgers. What will a restaurant do in this situation? Answer: Stop selling the pork liver burgers and focus on selling bacon cheese burgers. If the chose to stop selling bacon cheese burgers their revenue will decrease and their losses increase.
@ThePandaMaster While the N64 & Gamecube didn't sell the most they were still profitable for Nintendo and that's how Nintendo makes their money, hardware and high software sales. Nintendo already stated they'll never go 3rd party and financially they're doing better then Sony so i don't expect them to leave the console market any time soon.
@Vegamyster That might be so but it does not mean they would not make more money off selling games on all platforms. They don't make that much off each wii u either so it is not as effective as it once was when gamecube and n64 where around. Just because something is profitable does not mean it is the best thing for your company to be doing. Also they where not doing that well during that period so i doubt they would willingly go back to that... and I'm not sure if the company at this point could stand doing it. Sony as a whole doing poorly does not really effect whether they stay in gaming as they make a lot of money with playstation from both first and 3rd party sales. Sony could not afford to let go of the console business. On the other side Nintendo makes most of there money off first party and the console itself, with console profits being low(each one does not make much for them) it really does not make sense to limit the sales of the games to just people owning a wii. Having said that I personally hope they get though this gen and do well with the hardware next time. I think Nintendo can do really interesting things still and hope they do :).
lame comment, truefan....and very wrong as well.
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@Pandamaster, you're incorrect. Despite their high software sales and low hardware sales, around 70% of all profits Nintendo earned were made from hardware.
@mohuzas During what period of time? link?
Yeah have to agree here. Another article of doom based on a whopping 4 months of the new generation. Some people just don't seem to get it. Selling a million or 2 items more than your competition with a mere 15 or so bucks made off each one is not going to make other billion dollar companies lay down and die.
beucz sony is in that 'doom' position, they have to cling onto the playstation. MS looks at it as an investment. is it worth the time, money, and resources? how good is the return? doesn't necessarily mean the company with the worst financial position is leaving first. but I don't want sony or MS to leave the gaming business. Nintendo, I just hope they make better games. and games other than 30 year old franchises.
@truefan1 I didn't see any mention of Doom, the groundbreaking FPS on PC that helped launch the genre, in this article ;) Prepare yourselves guys: http://media.tumblr.com/tum...
Sony's going broke, talk of Microsoft leaving the console business, and Nintendo can't make a powerful console anymore. If all of this is true then that will leave "nothing" and gaming would be dead. I think no one ever thinks that things could change for the better and not the worse. Microsoft probably want leave the console business, Nintendo will most likely make a better console next time, and Sony could recuperate although it will be very hard if even possible at this point in time. Lets just hope for the best and that all 3 console makers survive and continue to being us only the best gaming can offer.
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@Mr-Dude Thank you. I'm just trying to put things in a better prospective and hope for the best. Obviously things are going to change but let's hope for the best for all 3 console makers. After all they're bringing us the most amazing games in the industry. I might really like PS4 but that don't mean I want Xbox or Nintendo to go away. I hope Microsoft does a much better job and drops the price to $399 and I hope Nintendo makes a much better and more powerful console next time. I'll always be a one console person due to the cost so I'll enjoy my choice and hope the others do well also.
LOL. Nintendo Doomed, Sony doomed and M$ doomed. Are people still clicking on these heat seekers?
Nintendo are doing the best of the 3 money wise.
But not making none off Wii U.
Right, and we just spent 3M (or,more not sure) on AMD, 500M on AR. 1B on games. Yeah, we are going out,of business. Right.... Lol Cheers
That's how game companies go out of business.Spending large sums and not seeing profitable returns.
I like the way he says "we". It looks like he takes this very personal or works for Microsoft. Either way, he will be one of those who will contribute to the downfall of the Xbox devision with that thinking.
lol. when i read "we" i pictured him holding a budweiser and wearing a MS shirt and hat.
Doesn't say anywhere that Microsoft is going under, just that they might hand off Xbox to another company.
@DrSteveBrule2 handing xbox off to facebook is the worst idea ever.
Yea, just like FamousMortimer aka Pete Dodd, former insider of Neogaf said that Amazon was definitely going to buy out the Xbox brand. It will not happen, MS is not just going to throw the whole UI OS Xbox interface that integrate all their media services together after spending a decade to perfect away.
@no limit - Amazon would totally buy xbox if MS was selling,Amazon just recently bought a game studio too. I could support xbox if Amazon bought them, they're alot better company and they're about listening to the base and being very comsumer friendly, which MS is neither.
If the Xbox was sold to Amazon maybe they would get rid of that ugly ass windows 8 green UI. make the boxes they are packed in something besides generic green. Stop trying to make people think the Xbox One is more powerful than it really is, stop pushing useless voice controls that are nothing more than a gimmick. Create and buy studios of there own for first party games instead of buying exclusivity from other publishers. Stop acting like they created console gaming and that they are the authority on all things console gaming when they were the last to the party. Stop letting people that act, and are, corporate shills rather than real gamer's speak for the company. So many things that could be changed if Amazon bought Xbox.
I like how you say "we" like you work at Microsoft and you chipped in a couple of million for these things. Then again, looking at your comment history, that would make sense.
Why are people so obsessed with these manufactures going down? If anything they're looking up with PS4 sales going strong followed by MS. Nintendo still has Zelda and Metroid to release. Plus their E3's will be great this in my strong opinion. I know there is this realistic tendacy of the impending nightmare of "When" or "who" could possibly get axed but its something I don't wanna think about because to me it won't happen. All three will be here to stay. Besides I don't want the Iphone/ IOS android facebook game market to take over, if that every happens then I'm out of gaming.
When you think about Microsoft's History in gaming consoles, they did set some bad business practices into motion when they entered the gaming console market. Hence why a lot of people wouldn't really care to see Microsoft leave. While i have no personal problem with Microsoft i have to call a spade a spade, gaming was a lot better when it was just SEGA, Nintendo & Sony.
Heck, I remember when it was SEGA, Nintendo, and Atari.
Tbf while im not really a big fan of microsoft they have also done some things well, psn wouldnt be what it is now if not for live, micosoft really pushed online gaming for consoles, and although sony gives you a much better deal with ps+, we wouldnt have it if microsoft hadnt spent the energy on getting live mainstream.
I remember going in to EB to to buy my beloved Dreamcast that Peter Moore;formerly of Sega then Microsoft now EA told me was the future of gaming. Thanks for the lies Pete..
@AngelicIceDiamond I know, some have an OBSESSION with 'doom' article. As if we don't have enough of them... Nobody needs to leave the console race. PS4, Wii U, Xbone or whatever....jus let our hobby alone!!!
Nintendo "Doomed" with enough money in the bank to last half a century. Sony "Doomed" with their movie and game divisions the only things that looks positive. MS "Doomed" with two - really three - bad console launches in terms of reputation at least. Their game division only ever really an experiment of the software company's in consumer electronics. One can still experiment all it wants, the other likely wont survive if it takes a bad turn, while the third could drop everything and walk away.
Doom and gloom articles .
Honestly all three could bow out at any moment. Sony is seriously struggling financially and could potentially go bankrupt Nintendo is becoming more and more irrelevant in the console space but are dominating the hand held scene and could move into mobile gaming Microsoft have the money to stay in the console race, but could potentially bow out at any moment if the Xbox One continues it's lackluster sales. Not to mention investors and directors want the MS CEO to sell the Xbox division. I wouldn't want any of the three to disappear, competition is good and all three make incredible AAA games. I don't want to live in a world of touch controls and mobile F2P games.
I can't see Microsoft blowing out, but they could definitely just decide to stop making Xbox's, after all, they're not making money from them. And as a company, making money is all they're concerned with.
Everyone is doomed. Nothing but DOOOM. Know why? DOOM articles get the most hits so everyone keeps writing them.
Nah, I'm pretty sure they write these articles because they are actually doomed. Not just 'cos they get hits. /s
Oh how Sony wishes MS would just pack up and leave. Too bad Xbox is one one of their most important brands, Xbox 360 is becoming very profitable, and the X1, which is doing a lot better, is part of MS long term strategy for the living room. Mr. Nadella the New CEO made it clear Xbox isn't going anywhere. And lackluster compared to who? In the major markets X1 is holding it's own. In some places in the US it is beating the PS4 and it has a higher attach rate.
Hold on a sec, micro has had a good couple of weeks yes, but its not outselling anything at the min, sony have still sold more in each respective market, lets not forget that the infamous numbers will be out soon which will probably have stopped microsofts little serge. Do I think any of the three are bowing out? Nope not at all, each of the companies games businesses are doing well, some more than others but they all have healthy numbers that can only grow.
You seem to think you can only win by being number 1. MS is turning more profit on each console than Sony. X1 purchasers are buying Live and more games. MS is doing fine.
Who was talking about profit? Not that anyone actually knows any of the threes real profit margin, you said microsoft has sold more consoles, over the last couple of weeks yes but not overall, that was my only point, I didnt say anyone was winning or that it had anything to do with consoles sold, you kind of seen more than was there lol
@illusive_man MS is selling the xb1 with titanfall free can you back up your profit margin with numbers?
Microsoft practically owns the pc world with windows. If they wanted to win they could probably buy everyone out and win in a day. They won't because they know it's not worth it in the long run. Will they sell off Xbone? Maybe but I kind of doubt it because they have other reasons for keeping it around like big data. Big companies are paying big money to track what you do, what you like, what you watch, etc. Xbox being "One" isn't only for your benefit.
I doubt either one of them will "bow out" of the games console industry, any time soon. Nintendo and Microsoft are too damn stubborn to make such a move. Even in spite of their stupidest mistakes and business decisions.
Sony is the company in the most trouble.....However Nintendo might go multi plat. I would love to play Mario on my ps4 or zelda on my xbox one.
The possibility may be there for MS but its not for Nintendo, its what they have been doing for years. Ill say nintendo is the very last company that will bow out of gaming IMO, there virtually has to be no market for consoles before nintendo does that
Yeah I would agree that of the three Nintendo would be the last man standing. Mainly I say that because they make most of their own software and can remain self supportive. Not to mention they are very conservative.
Nintendo also have no business outside of the gaming industry, they won't be leaving any time soon. Sony won't leave the industry because they need it more than ever to help keep the company afloat. Microsoft have the least reason to be in the space, they don't need the cash and to them it would not be a big deal to drop out and concentrate on their main (and far more lucrative) business of making and selling software. I don't think any of the big three will be opting out any time soon, but I have to agree that Microsoft are the most likely to leave first, not because of any type of failure, just because they don't need the business as much as the others do.
I dont want to enter in an argument but I honestly dont see Nintendo going anywhere for a very long time.
should as soon as possible and to focus only on the PC...😉
dude that'll happen when pigs start flying.
You release the MS is the second richest tech company in the world right? And they will do what ever they can to keep the Xbox alive. Not only that but the new CEO absolutely believes in Xbox. Shareholders only dictate so much. MS makes so much money off of their first party games. And Xbox LIVE. Halo sales COD levels some times. Well, every time. MS, literally is in a better position then Sony or Nintendo, when it comes to cash flow and pull. Typical doom article. If anyone leaves the home console business, its Nintendo. Nintendo isnt doomed. Their games arent doomed. Their handhelds arent doomed. But theres a slight, ever slight possibility that they leave the home console arena. And when it comes to Sony, as long as Sony is around. PS will be around. Its too important for them.
The Xbox One is selling quite well for Microsoft, not sure why all these articles are popping up that they're doomed. They have more money in the bank than Sony when they were launching the PS3 and we all know how that went.
Xbox has never won a generation and never will.
"Opinion: Microsoft Will Leave the Console Race Before Nintendo" --- For those of you who don't actually read the article they are saying just the opposite. They feel even if the console business is sold to someone else the X-Box is going nowhere and they doubt it will be sold anytime soon.
It's more healthy to have competitors than to be the only game in town. It's better for us too in terms of game quality. If Microsoft left the console business, what would we argue about around here?
Moral of the story is that phones and tablet have a drastic impact on both Nintendo's and MS business. They should have included Sony as well.
Nuts! All three will PROBABLY be around for a while, but Nintendo looks to be due for the biggest change soon...maybe moving to just handheld devices. After that, I'd say that Sony is actually in the most trouble...true they are selling consoles like hotcakes, but overall the company is in huge financial trouble. Past that, in the area where gaming companies actually make money...selling games...MS is beating Sony by a rather large margin. This article appears to be written by someone with "what I want to happen" goggles on.
ms could give away 1 million for every ps4 sold and at most only be down 150 million, pocket change to ms if I was Nintendo, I would join up with sony for one generation and basically wipe out ms from the console industry and then go separate ways again
You think Sony has sold 150 PS4 units?
I hope they stay. Someone needs to keep Sony in check or they might go all PS3 on our asses again.