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Submitted by krackchap 2312d ago | review

Dutch OPM reviews MGS4: An emotional, intense, and worthy closure.

DUTCH OPM review
Metal gear solid 4

Graphics: 18/20
Music/Sound: 20/20
Gameplay: 58/60
Overall: 96(same as gta4)

Positive points: Worthy finale of the series, perfect camera, controls and sound, epic storyline, weapons
Negative points: Graphics could be a bit better, story too complex for people who are not into the series (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3) 96/100

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onewinedangel  +   2312d ago
hahhahhaha
Negative point : the story is so good ,and hey i want ultra mega photot realistic graphs not only mega realistic but super megea ultra dupper realistic lololol
even funnier is the resource 360indians.com that extremely desperate
expect ng2 review to come out of ps3fanboys forums hahahahahah
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sonarus  +   2312d ago
MGS4 a dream come true for any MGS4 fan. Kojima will show all these game makers how to tell a story. Its been too damn long since i played a game with a great story. BRING IT

Also they confirm MGS4 has custom soundtracks since you can play music from your hard drive via virtual ipod. :D

Quick question...Why does this game have to be so awesome:|
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theKiller  +   2312d ago
when fanboys reviewers
try to take away any perfection from a game of their rival console they tend to complain about variety and too good story, they need to play more sport games i guess!!
juuken  +   2312d ago
Lol, complex story.
Still, it's an excellent score.
LJWooly  +   2312d ago
Agreed. I can't wait for this game. If the two low points are a complex story (duh, it's MGS) and the graphics (which look awesome), then I think we can expect great things from this game :D
juuken  +   2312d ago
Yeppers.
mmajunkie123  +   2312d ago
complex story? juuken describe mgs series in 1 paragraph please do..
i bet hal the fans of mgs dont even know what the story is about i do..i think its dumb but please you seem like a big fan so describe the story to me
LJWooly  +   2312d ago
What part of the story do you want described for you? There's a lot to it, to put it in one small paragraph would be silly, it would miss the point completely.
jwatt  +   2312d ago
Honestly I've enjoyed all mgs games ecspecially part 3 and you know that I didn't fully understand the story, it's crazy.

I seriously didn't know I was playing with a different clone snake untill I got my dvd pre-order for mgs4 where they explained the whole story in a nutshell. I think my example shows that you don't need to fully understand the story to enjoy it.

As long as you know that you have to save the world you should be good.
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LJWooly  +   2312d ago
Yeah, you'd be surprised at how many MGS fans there are that don't realise that Naked Snake (Big Boss) from MGS3 is a different Snake to Solid Snake.

I think it was MGS2 that lost the most people in terms of plot. It was mind-beinding at the time, but I can see how some people thought it was a little over-complicated. Once you start paying attention though, you stop feeling confused, and start realising how brilliant the game's storyline really is.
Mr_Kuwabara  +   2312d ago
Lol but jwatt didn't you play MGS1? It clearly stated that Solid Snake was a clone.

Now I would understand if you didn't get MGS2's story at first. I passed it like 30 times to fully grasp the story (and well, I was pretty obsessed with the game in general hehe) at whole.
DarK-SilV  +   2312d ago
wow this is the first time I know snake wes clone
LJWooly  +   2312d ago
Well, at least you know now. It'll save you a lot of confusion come MGS4 :)
Kami  +   2312d ago
"An emotional, intense, and worthy closure"
im not going to cry, im not going to cry.lets see how emotional this is, i like things that make me cry because nothing makes me cry, well except the anime Elfen lied.
Mc Fadge  +   2312d ago
Graphics are the bad point?
I shalln't be disappointed then! :D

I however, have not played ANY of the previous titles, and therefore worry about the second negative criticism, but I will hopefully tag along with it :3
BrianC6234  +   2312d ago
I don't get the part about graphics could be better. I don't think they could be. I'm sure there's way too much going on all the time for the graphics to be better. Of course, they could dumb down the game so more power can be used to improve the graphics but why do that? I don't think some people understand when you make a game you have to make design decisions. The PS3 is really powerful but even it can't do everything. If you want to make one area better you probably have to take away from another area. Maybe this is why Kojima made those comments about the PS3. I think some people thought the PS3 could do everything. If MGS4 is redone at the end of the PS3's lifecycle maybe Kojima will know a lot more about the PS3 and be able to improve the graphics. I bet though that MGS4 is the best overall PS3 game so far.
SIX  +   2312d ago
They gave GTA the same score
Good sign that this game is equal if not better than GTA.
LJWooly  +   2312d ago
No doubt in my mind that this is indeed better than GTA4. Kojima's never disappointed us before, and since all the previous installments of the franchise have bested the GTA series, I expect no less from this one :)
clintos59  +   2312d ago
Even though this is a great review but I still find some of the cons for MGS4 ridiculous....
I mean graphics? This game has way better graphics then GTA4 so wtf is really going on. Not only that they keep saying the story is to complex but they should know this already and we all know MGS4 Graphics and Storyline>>>GTA4 so whats the deduction points for? I still think MGS4 should have got a 10 but hey I guess it just cant be helped when GTA4 has so much hype for it, they have to atleast make the reviews look similar I guess but whatever, this game is going to be the baddest game in the planet, lol. Gears of War who? Nah jk, gears 2 is also going to be bad a$$. I cant wait to get this game though, just 22 more days. :)
BrianC6234  +   2312d ago
"I mean graphics? This game has way better graphics then GTA4 so wtf is really going on. Not only that they keep saying the story is to complex but they should know this already and we all know MGS4 Graphics and Storyline>>>GTA4" ;

I guess they had to find a flaw with some part of the game. Can't say it's perfect. Then people would think they aren't good reviewers. I agree though, the graphics will be great and the story isn't too complicated. The whole series has been the same way. I don't think this game was done to get new fans of the series. It was done for everyone who already likes MGS.
v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
about complex stories
if you don't go in mentally prepared for Kojima's confabulated and warp-factor WTF stories, then you shouldn't play MGS series
ice_prophecy  +   2312d ago
OMg i regretted going to that page....

Why the freak did i have to highlight the blanked out text. I couldn't resist.

***DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE. ***

jsut accept the review as is from the description.
monkey602  +   2312d ago
I have managed to keep away from a lot of details about this game, because I always knew this was going to be fantastic and a day one purchase for me. This way there are a lot more surprises. Now that I think about it there are still a few trailers I havent seen. I've never contained my excitement for a game so well. At least it will pay off soon

and yeah that was quite a ramble on... I'm still crazy excited I have to vent that in some way or another :D
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ice_prophecy  +   2312d ago
Yea I feel like an idiot.

That site has FREAKEN HUGE spoilers....

Avoid it at all cost.
monkey602  +   2312d ago
Isnt it a bit strange that these guys are allowed release big spoilers almost a month before release and the English OPM had to keep them secret?
BeaArthur  +   2312d ago
Graphics could be better is a very vague and almost useless comment. Their either good/great or they have a specific problem that stands out.
v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
i'm gonna take a guess
and say it was probably too much gray and brown?
juuken  +   2312d ago
v1c1ous, why don't you go and watch some videos and stop pointing out the *gray* and *brown* colors?

Your comments are based on *pure* speculation.
v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
you're right
i rewatched some new videos. i was wrong.

i meant to say gray, brown, green, and black
juuken  +   2312d ago
Cute, but no cigar.
I smell jealousy.
v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
uhhh i have it pre-ordered
what you smell might be something entirely different.

i might get that checked out if i was you.
juuken  +   2312d ago
If you have it pre-ordered, then why were you mentioning the colors?
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v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
because....
i'm not a blind fanboy who licks every floor tile Kojima walks on?

cause i'm making light jokes of the color palette of MGS games since i, you know, played and have them all?

Cause i know the game will still be great regardless of the fact?

it's sorta how you go into most 360 topics and throw around the RROD joke every once in a while, except, you know, i actually own the thing i'm making fun of. and btw, gears of war has 30 million shades of gray brown and motion blur, but you don't see me twisting my panties in a bunch :)
ice_prophecy  +   2312d ago
I just couldn't help myself.

But its just your nose to close to your ASS!

BAHAHAHAHAHA

ok Im done.. sorry...

Edit: Yea Im sorry... I was trying to break up the tension. Its a good game either way! it got 96/100 for crying out loud!
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v1c1ous  +   2312d ago
@7.8
now why did you have to insult juuken like that? that's just not kosher!
juuken  +   2312d ago
....You're an odd one.
ice_prophecy  +   2312d ago
^_^ Aint it Great?!
juuken  +   2312d ago
*pats your head* ^-~
tweaker  +   2312d ago
@juuken
"If you have it pre-ordered, then why were you mentioning the colors?"

I'm sorry but that made me laugh. It is such a ridiculous thing to say. I am going to have to agree with v1c1ous on this one. Not with the colors part but with post number 7.7.

I think the colors are, in a sense an art direction of the game. It looks great to me.
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Watkins  +   2312d ago
lol, if you preorder MGS4, you CANNOT say anything negative about it, everyone knows that, no? :P
kewlkat007  +   2312d ago
v1c1ous it's good to know some can have opinions
about games whether it be negative or positive, even if they are getting it.

Of course v1c1ous your not suppose to talk about the colors, you have it pre-ordered, remember..

Sony Only fans will never understand that concept, since everything sony is always great.
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juuken  +   2312d ago
...Fine.
Glad to see you're ordering the game v1c1ous and I'm sorry I called you out like that.
It'll be an awesome game for both sides either way.
I rest my case.
pp  +   2312d ago
Negative points: Graphics could be a bit better
I agree graphics don't look that great
vloeistof  +   2312d ago
ninja gaiden 2 does not look all that 2 nor halo3 and gears 2 could look better.

mgs4 does not have to have the best graphics ps3 has killzone 2 for that
sonarus  +   2312d ago
Quick name 3 X360 games that look better
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Sir Ken Kutaragi  +   2312d ago
JEALOUSY is a bad DISEASE xBot LEMMINGS!!!
Snake told me to say that!!! ;-D

@pp It must be nice to say what you want, and you know(some how???) your not going to lose any of your Bubbles???
Oh well!!!

MGS4+PS3=HEAVEN!!! ;-P
mmajunkie123  +   2312d ago
how can you disagree with PP the graphics arent that good, gears of war looks better so does bioshock mass effect uncharted etc.

everyone should know by now graphics dont make games: gameplay and story and mgs4 seems to have covered those quite well..even tho i hate the MGS series
sonarus  +   2312d ago
Mass effect...NO. Bioshock No. Gears of War and Uncharted Yes. So far that is one 360 game and i only need 3:D
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JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2312d ago
sonarus
Gears of War 1&2, Mass Effect, Left 4 Dead, Alan Wake...... opps thats 5, you asked for 3.
sonarus  +   2312d ago
I asked for 360 games that are out not 360 games with no release dates. Mass effect does NOT look as good as MGS. I can give you Gears of War 1 but even with that its subjective. The Gamepro guy who played it said it looked better than gears. No 360 game looks better than this game. The only ps3 games that looks better than this is uncharted and GT5P

The fact that you even mentioned left for dead shows how blind you are. Army of Two looks better than left for dead
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Ace Ventura  +   2312d ago
lol nO jASON 360. tHEY DONT. mASS eFFECT IS A BUGGY, POP IN FILLED PIECE OF GARBAGE (ON THE 360).

Left 4 Dead???????????/ HAHAHAHAHAHHA You Fool.

Alan Wake????????? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH Can you say vaaporware??

And Gears doewsnt look much better... either way MGS4 is the better series and game.

You fail troll. Go back in your 3RD placve losing hole. WEEKLY losing hole hahahhahahahahahhahaha.

"Jason 360" I pray that is a second account. hahahahhahahahahhahahah

You angry stooge. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Bioshock series is coming to the PS3!!!!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHA
segasage  +   2312d ago
Personally I don't think the graphics are all that in this game
the game mechanisms seem to be the same just a new mgs with a paint job, but not in a bad way. like they say it's doing nothing new here. same ol mgs. same as dmc4 which was the same game just on next-gen.

as most storied franchises this game will get good scores.
okcomputer  +   2312d ago
Have you read the previews for this game? You know the ones that say that stealth is no longer required, the camera system is completely revamped, the game mechanics change on the fly depending on what part you're on, the cammo system has changed, the weapons selection has changed, the recon system has changed.. not to mention new bosses, new environments, next gen graphics and new online play? How is that not enough change for you? Would you rather they made mgs4 into a turn based rpg? would that be different enough for you?
thewhoopimen  +   2312d ago
@8
They definitely reworked the title from the ground up in many ways. If you played the Beta Online, you would know.
highdro  +   2312d ago
emmm....what were u expecting!!!!!!!!!!!!
did u ever doubt kojima to relase below what he wants, ..we all know he is a perfectionict and that only means good things for mgs4, ...i dont expect the game to get 10/10 from every body but i dont expect it to get below 9/10 either,....i bet gamespot will have other ideas in mind...hahahaha!!!!
clintos59  +   2312d ago
Even if gamespot did underrate MGS4, u can almost bet that alone with a game this huge, would kill that site for sure. MGS4 is that big of a monste...
(Believe It) Like Naruto says. :)
Meus Renaissance  +   2312d ago
I don't think the graphics are amazing, I think they're very good but a definite downgrade from the original trailers (in which Kojima himself confirmed before you heckle me with disagrees and Bubble rape). I think they're too washed out in my opinion. But I'll get the game anyway because its seemingly so great
vloeistof  +   2312d ago
i will have to pick this copy up then did not know it was out already :)

lol big spoiler in there for ( hardcore)fans .

spoiler

i thought i would be so.

10 hours of cutcsenes,
lots of popcorn needed lol
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mesh1  +   2312d ago
HAHAHAHAHAH YES THIS IS THE TRUE POWER OF THE CELLL THE GRAPHICS COULD BE A BIT BETTER HAHA again a ps3 exclusive that does mroe than run and shoot(uncharted hand drawn texture giving the game that cartoony 3d look it not actually high poly ) it has lame graphics ive said all along the ps3 cant do games like mass effect,gears of war,etc and maintain high end graphics just look at killzone2 u run and shoot nothing is dynamic there is no really environment physics ,with scripted lvls not really an in depth game if your talking about game coding complexity's .
Cupid_Viper_3  +   2312d ago
@mesh
I totally agree with you assh*le...... the ps3 simply cant handle the games you've mentioned.....

you know why....it would have to sound like an airplane taking off, and we know the ps3 cant to that

and it would also have to scratch the disc, and again, the ps3 fail at that

and dont forget dont forget that exclusive upscaling trick the 360 does when the those 3 lights go red on you..... conclusion..... the ps3 simply loses hands down......

EDIT: btw, while you're crying about how you're going to miss out on one of the best game of a generation, i got some more heartbreaking news for ya.....BIOSHOCK IS NOW CONFIRMED FOR THE PS3, and rumors are that it actually looks better on the ps3 as well, SO......... well no need to admit anything, you and i both know that the despite everything, THE PS3 simply cannot do 360 games......and im with you 100%
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juuken  +   2312d ago
...I truly lol'ed at your pathetic attempt to bash the PS3.
I smell fear and desperation from the bots!

QUICK, SOMEONE HAND THEM OUT SOME F*CKIN' TISSUES AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, GIVE THEM SOME F*CKIN' DIAPERS BEFORE THEY SH*T ON THEMSELVES FROM LOOKING AT THIS GAME!
sonarus  +   2312d ago
All i want to know is 3 X360 games that look better than MGS4
pp  +   2312d ago
And we have alan wake for that
Defectiv3_Detectiv3  +   2312d ago
Yes, Alan Wake, the game that has been in production for 5 yrs now, that has yet to release a single screenshot of gameplay.

I have a feeling that by the time Alan Wake is finally released it will be obsolete.
DarK-SilV  +   2312d ago
tony man always I love your logic
bubble
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belal  +   2312d ago
omg
mesh1 read at the negative side :P the story is to hard to understand :P therefore its not coming to the crapbox3fixme
Cupid_Viper_3  +   2312d ago
what a bunch of f*cking hypocrites
when Killzone 2 gameplay came out, and the graphics are out of this world, EVERYONE all of sudden was talking about "how its really about GAMEPLAY, and not graphics."

But what am i hearing now? oh the GRAPHICS crap, as if the game somehow looks bad.... 18/20 means, excellent for those who can't grasp it. and 58/60 for gameplay means that on a scale of 10, it received 9.66 while the graphics are 9/10. so like all the KILLZONE haters like to say gameplay>graphics=perfectio n........ I GUESS MGS4 is getting ready to own.......

so funny tho....a week ago, its all about gameplay, just look at them now.....
poos3  +   2312d ago
Please dont get to carried away sonyswines its a review from the ps3 mag and it even says the story is wacko and mention that the graphics suck and this is coming from a ps3 mag hahah.
juuken  +   2312d ago
FAIL.
Ali_The_Brit  +   2312d ago
poos3 fails. again.
gunnerforlife  +   2312d ago
this game is gone rule above all, giving back GTA4 for this:D:D
highdro  +   2312d ago
mgs4
will be great no matter what people say about the graphics, ....i am sure the graphics will look loveley neverhtheless,........but just imagine if mgs4 had killzone 2 graphics,....i would give the game 11/10....=D
jkhan  +   2312d ago
I am pretty sure that guy will be playing it on a SD tv and complaining about the graphics. The game looks phenomenal, just look at Snake, he is the best looking ingame character model I have ever seen.
UJUSTLOSTONE  +   2312d ago
Honestly this is the first negative I've heard in regards to graphics
When other sites got to do the early playthrough in Japan, they all stated how the vids did nothing compared to playing it in person-how gorgeous it looked-

One site even said it was On par or Better than Gears.

Either way, this game will be great, And saying I'm looking foward to playing this, is a gross understatement of my level of anticipation.

Lets go Baby, GAME ON GAME HEDZ
monkey602  +   2312d ago
The graphics on the MGO Beta were nothing short of excellent and the story can only have better visuals.
dogseye_deadhorse  +   2312d ago
what?
i played gears for the first time the other day after everyone on this site has been hyping it up real hard and all i can say is that i was real dissapointed with both graphics and gameplay. put the control down after about 30 mins.

some from that japan camp were sayin its the best graphics on console and mabey to date in any game.

also put mgs4 against a game like gtaIV and it makes it look like dog shiit from ps2 days i recon but gta got good graphic scores wtf??

but hey 9.6 for graphics is awesome but complain about the graphics after they said that seems stupid.
mrlakadaddy  +   2312d ago
it was
reviewed by 360indians.com
LastDance  +   2312d ago
i did the same thing deadhorse....I was so ready to play a sik game with mad graphics...and me n the cousin stopped playing after abouttttttttttttttttttt20 minutes and put halo back in.
jkhan  +   2312d ago
I have been trying to keep myself away from getting overhyped for this game. Last I got hyped for, I was left underwhelmed, now from the reviews I see, and from the little details that are coming out, its making me believe that this game will deliver on the immense hype. I always say there is no such thing as a perfect game, but then there is MGS4, a game that came really really close.
belal  +   2312d ago
lol alan wake
hahahahahahahahaha

alan wake!!!!!!!

eight days will crush that POS alan wake on 360 is POS. no way im going to buy the pc version :D still Eight day will crush alan wake sry
aiphanes  +   2312d ago
I just got my new PS3 from the Repair Center...
I am waiting for MGS4.......22 more days!!!

This will be the greatest game this year...Gears 2 will not be able to beat it.
Homicide  +   2312d ago
HAHAHAHAHA! The bots are in full defense force. They're jealous that PS3 owners get this AAA masterpiece. Go cry me a river bots.
THE TERMINATOR  +   2312d ago
Geow graphically better than MGS4?
PLease stop with the BS
All you have to do is read the Gamepro preview which states that Geow doesnt even come close.
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Leathersoup  +   2312d ago
Anytime I hear kids talk about good story in a video game, I have to remind myself that this is the generation that believes that Anime is deep.
LastDance  +   2312d ago
are you saying metal gear doesnt have a deep storyline?....I cant quite comprehend what your getting at......
ice_prophecy  +   2312d ago
That's not fair. In any pile of dirt they may be some gems.
thewhoopimen  +   2312d ago
@3
You just seem a bit biased of anime.
Anime can be deep or shallow depending on the title (Tenchi Muyo vs. Grave of the Fireflies), just like movies can be shallow or deep as well (Zoolander vs Shawshank Redemption) I don't understand your point... are you asking if MGS4 will be deep? If its making game reviewers tear up and they know they're just playing a game... then what do you think? Its not 13-year olds working behind the publication...
CRIMS0N_W0LF  +   2312d ago
Perfection Exsits
Click Picture

If you downloaded the High Res Screenshot Pack. The Graphics are super good espically the detail like the dust on windscreen of truck and the wiper blade hits

Over complex Story. Pfft

Idiots like these will nerf its Metacritic score.

Related image(s)
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J@D  +   2312d ago
The game that's running to be GOTY of this year... Man, I can't waitttttt!!!!!!

I need to know how is going to end ASAP.
Aclay  +   2312d ago
As far as the story being complex, that's just how the Metal Gear Solid series is.

I always tell people that they should play through the previous Metal Gear Solid games before playing MGS4 because they'll be lost in terms of the story and that's the way a game series should be. The Metal Gear Solid series is heavily story driven as well as Action, but Metal Gear Solid is a Stealth game first and Action second.

But a single player game like MGS4 isn't meant to be played through just one time, it's meant to be played a couple of times because each time you play you'll find something new or discover something else that you didn't find through the first play and it has plenty of replayability.
trancefreak  +   2312d ago
cmon guys this is a masterpiece for what ever system its running on. if it was on the 360 it still would be exciting to own and play and would be system seller.
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